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Thread started 08/05/11 7:42pm

dancerella

Is Jill Scott Racist & Homophobic?

I just saw a tweet that she wrote about a couple she saw, where she was asking why women marry gay men? How does she know the man was gay just from looking at them? Ok maybe that doesn't make her homophobic but I would say she's ignorant. I also know someone that saw her in concert in the Bay Area a few years ago that said she spoke out very candidly against interracial couples and about black people that don't wear their hair naturally. This chick is starting to piss me off. I'm not even a fan of her music and I certainly don't want to hear her ignorant comments about life either. What do you guys think?

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Reply #1 posted 08/05/11 7:50pm

HermesReborn

I don't think thats homophobic...

your telling me you never encountered a couple where the dude looked kind of gay?

Hell a friend of mines dates a guy who looked like a very effeminate bottom.

And I kept telling her to watch out cause he might be gay or bi...

And he was gay.

People make snap judgements all the time. Can't be politically correct all the time.

You can look gay.

nothing wrong with that.

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Reply #2 posted 08/05/11 7:56pm

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dancerella said:

I just saw a tweet that she wrote about a couple she saw, where she was asking why women marry gay men? How does she know the man was gay just from looking at them? Ok maybe that doesn't make her homophobic but I would say she's ignorant. I also know someone that saw her in concert in the Bay Area a few years ago that said she spoke out very candidly against interracial couples and about black people that don't wear their hair naturally. This chick is starting to piss me off. I'm not even a fan of her music and I certainly don't want to hear her ignorant comments about life either. What do you guys think?

Yeah, she's going off of stereotypical bullshit. The rest of what she's said, I don't agree with either, but to be fair, she's entitled to her opinion, even if it stinks.

Why do you put yourself through the agitation of going to her blog when you know you're not a fan and get pissed off at the stuff she says? lol

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Reply #3 posted 08/05/11 8:02pm

dancerella

armpit said:

dancerella said:

I just saw a tweet that she wrote about a couple she saw, where she was asking why women marry gay men? How does she know the man was gay just from looking at them? Ok maybe that doesn't make her homophobic but I would say she's ignorant. I also know someone that saw her in concert in the Bay Area a few years ago that said she spoke out very candidly against interracial couples and about black people that don't wear their hair naturally. This chick is starting to piss me off. I'm not even a fan of her music and I certainly don't want to hear her ignorant comments about life either. What do you guys think?

Yeah, she's going off of stereotypical bullshit. The rest of what she's said, I don't agree with either, but to be fair, she's entitled to her opinion, even if it stinks.

Why do you put yourself through the agitation of going to her blog when you know you're not a fan and get pissed off at the stuff she says? lol

I actually read it on Conceteloop.com but i've heard her say ignorant things on race in the past too. I guess you're right, that she is entitled to her own opinion. This is the other side of freedom of speech I guess.... confused

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Reply #4 posted 08/05/11 8:02pm

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Did you see her latest tweets, where she's asking about open relationships and is wondering if she could be in one?

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Reply #5 posted 08/05/11 8:03pm

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dancerella said:

I certainly don't want to hear her ignorant comments about life either.

Apparently you do, since you started this thread about it.

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Reply #6 posted 08/05/11 8:09pm

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Leave Jill Scott alone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol

When eye go 2 a Prince concert or related event it's all heart up in the house but when eye log onto this site and the miasma of bitchiness is completely overwhelming!
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Reply #7 posted 08/05/11 8:12pm

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Seriously everytime a celebrity makes a statement that doesn't 100% endorse the gay community they get smacked with the homophobe label. Not everyone agrees with everyone on everything! Life would be hella boring if it was that way. Opinions shouldn't carry so much weight after all you only have to hear them if you ask about them.

When eye go 2 a Prince concert or related event it's all heart up in the house but when eye log onto this site and the miasma of bitchiness is completely overwhelming!
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Reply #8 posted 08/05/11 8:21pm

chocolate1

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I LOVE her music... have tickets to see her tomorrow night.

I'm sure glad I read this thread before I went and enjoyed myself. doh!

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Reply #9 posted 08/05/11 8:34pm

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Not sure if she's homophobic or not. Don't much care either. But as relationships go, I'm none too bowled over by Mrs. Ms. Scott's "insights." I'm gay, out and have been married happily for 15 years and counting. Meanwhile, where's Lyzel? ...Or Lil' John? shrug

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Reply #10 posted 08/05/11 8:40pm

chocolate1

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Lammastide said:

Not sure if she's homophobic or not. Don't much care either. But as relationships go, I'm none too bowled over by Mrs. Ms. Scott's "insights." I'm gay, out and have been married happily for 15 years and counting. Meanwhile, where's Lyzel? ...Or Lil' John? shrug

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But you know what? You have been able to make your relationship work. hug

A lot of women get into situations where they think that they "can handle it" or "can change him" and get a rude awakening.


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Reply #11 posted 08/05/11 8:44pm

dancerella

Layzie said:

Did you see her latest tweets, where she's asking about open relationships and is wondering if she could be in one?

No, I didn't but if that's what she wants to do that's fine. How would she feel though if people were judging her for that?

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Reply #12 posted 08/05/11 9:03pm

Lammastide

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chocolate1 said:

Lammastide said:

Not sure if she's homophobic or not. Don't much care either. But as relationships go, I'm none too bowled over by Mrs. Ms. Scott's "insights." I'm gay, out and have been married happily for 15 years and counting. Meanwhile, where's Lyzel? ...Or Lil' John? shrug

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But you know what? You have been able to make your relationship work. hug

A lot of women get into situations where they think that they "can handle it" or "can change him" and get a rude awakening.

Granted. I've seen that sort of thing, and it hurts all parties involved.

It just seems (assuming Scott's intent is to alleviate that hurt) she'd be better off genuinely addressing the concern first with women and gay men who actually do find themselves in the situation, 'cause some of us navigate our relationships in ways that would downright school our more conventionally wed peers (e.g. Jill Scott). That, rather than launching a charged, open and probably rhetorical question into the Twittersphere based on little more than apparent assumptions and stereotypes. That just strikes me as the sort of sloppiness that stokes flames rather than puts them out.

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Reply #13 posted 08/05/11 9:06pm

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Lammastide said:

chocolate1 said:

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But you know what? You have been able to make your relationship work. hug

A lot of women get into situations where they think that they "can handle it" or "can change him" and get a rude awakening.

Granted. I've seen that sort of thing, and it hurts all parties involved. It just seems (assuming Scott's intent is to alleviate that pain) she'd be better off addressing the concern first with women and gay men who actually do find themselves in the situation, rather than launching a charged, open (and probably rhetorical) question into the Twittersphere based on little more than apparent assumptions and stereotypes. That just strikes me as the sort of sloppiness that stokes flames rather than puts them out..

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Very true. nod

Twitter seems to be the avenue where people just unleash whatever is on their minds. neutral


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Your lies, they cut me.
Now your words don't mean a thing.
I don't give a damn if you ever loved me..."

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Reply #14 posted 08/05/11 9:14pm

RKJCNE

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Jill Scott has to the artist behind the most boring music every created...

even if she were outright homophobic I wouldn't be as offended as I am by her bland albums.

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Reply #15 posted 08/05/11 9:17pm

Lammastide

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chocolate1 said:

Lammastide said:

Granted. I've seen that sort of thing, and it hurts all parties involved. It just seems (assuming Scott's intent is to alleviate that pain) she'd be better off addressing the concern first with women and gay men who actually do find themselves in the situation, rather than launching a charged, open (and probably rhetorical) question into the Twittersphere based on little more than apparent assumptions and stereotypes. That just strikes me as the sort of sloppiness that stokes flames rather than puts them out..

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Very true. nod

Twitter seems to be the avenue where people just unleash whatever is on their minds. neutral

Yep. And I guess everyone is entitled to that processing. Makes me wonder, though, if folk will regret having done it so publicly, permanently, and with such possible unintended effects 5 or 10 years down the line.

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Reply #16 posted 08/05/11 10:35pm

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HonestMan13 said:

Seriously everytime a celebrity makes a statement that doesn't 100% endorse the gay community they get smacked with the homophobe label. Not everyone agrees with everyone on everything! Life would be hella boring if it was that way. Opinions shouldn't carry so much weight after all you only have to hear them if you ask about them.

You don't get it. There are two types of people within AND outside of the industry that anyone with celebrity status can NOT afford to piss off in the 21st century with their political/social/religious views:

1. Ashkenazi Jews (especially the ones that are pro-Zionist)

2. LGBTs

The moment a celebrity does so, their career may potentially be good as f***ed. neutral

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Reply #17 posted 08/05/11 10:49pm

robertlove

TonyVanDam said:

HonestMan13 said:

Seriously everytime a celebrity makes a statement that doesn't 100% endorse the gay community they get smacked with the homophobe label. Not everyone agrees with everyone on everything! Life would be hella boring if it was that way. Opinions shouldn't carry so much weight after all you only have to hear them if you ask about them.

You don't get it. There are two types of people within AND outside of the industry that anyone with celebrity status can NOT afford to piss off in the 21st century with their political/social/religious views:

1. Ashkenazi Jews (especially the ones that are pro-Zionist)

2. LGBTs

The moment a celebrity does so, their career may potentially be good as f***ed. neutral

What does LGBT mean?

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Reply #18 posted 08/05/11 10:55pm

Timmy84

robertlove said:

TonyVanDam said:

You don't get it. There are two types of people within AND outside of the industry that anyone with celebrity status can NOT afford to piss off in the 21st century with their political/social/religious views:

1. Ashkenazi Jews (especially the ones that are pro-Zionist)

2. LGBTs

The moment a celebrity does so, their career may potentially be good as f***ed. neutral

What does LGBT mean?

Lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender. I'm guessing it's an alliance of the "alternative sexes" though I see the community is kinda split on issues.

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Reply #19 posted 08/05/11 11:01pm

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dancerella said:

I just saw a tweet that she wrote about a couple she saw, where she was asking why women marry gay men? How does she know the man was gay just from looking at them? Ok maybe that doesn't make her homophobic but I would say she's ignorant. I also know someone that saw her in concert in the Bay Area a few years ago that said she spoke out very candidly against interracial couples and about black people that don't wear their hair naturally. This chick is starting to piss me off. I'm not even a fan of her music and I certainly don't want to hear her ignorant comments about life either. What do you guys think?

I think if you aren't a fan that I don't know why you care so much about what she has to say?

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Reply #20 posted 08/05/11 11:59pm

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chamber said:

dancerella said:

I just saw a tweet that she wrote about a couple she saw, where she was asking why women marry gay men? How does she know the man was gay just from looking at them? Ok maybe that doesn't make her homophobic but I would say she's ignorant. I also know someone that saw her in concert in the Bay Area a few years ago that said she spoke out very candidly against interracial couples and about black people that don't wear their hair naturally. This chick is starting to piss me off. I'm not even a fan of her music and I certainly don't want to hear her ignorant comments about life either. What do you guys think?

I think if you aren't a fan that I don't know why you care so much about what she has to say?

In fairness to Dancerella, the homophoba within most black folks worldwide is the worst. If Jill Scott is one of them, then it's fair game for her to get called out for it by whoever.

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Reply #21 posted 08/06/11 1:20am

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TonyVanDam said:

HonestMan13 said:

Seriously everytime a celebrity makes a statement that doesn't 100% endorse the gay community they get smacked with the homophobe label. Not everyone agrees with everyone on everything! Life would be hella boring if it was that way. Opinions shouldn't carry so much weight after all you only have to hear them if you ask about them.

You don't get it. There are two types of people within AND outside of the industry that anyone with celebrity status can NOT afford to piss off in the 21st century with their political/social/religious views:

1. Ashkenazi Jews (especially the ones that are pro-Zionist)

2. LGBTs

The moment a celebrity does so, their career may potentially be good as f***ed. neutral

FEAR over RESPECT.

When eye go 2 a Prince concert or related event it's all heart up in the house but when eye log onto this site and the miasma of bitchiness is completely overwhelming!
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Reply #22 posted 08/06/11 2:06am

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You know what? Fuck Jill Scott.....literally [I really do want to biggrin ], But she is racist if you ask me. I've heard her say stuff like that before, so I don't buy her music. The whole "gay" topic she mentioned is true though...look at Liza Minnelli, Star Jones, Terry McMillan, Jackée Harry {& Maybe Monique}, They have all been married to gay dudes......

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Reply #23 posted 08/06/11 3:18am

robertlove

Timmy84 said:

robertlove said:

What does LGBT mean?

Lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender. I'm guessing it's an alliance of the "alternative sexes" though I see the community is kinda split on issues.

Thanks

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Reply #24 posted 08/06/11 3:36am

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First off, who cares. I am not a fan of Jill Scott's music at all. <amy of my family and friends are, but for me - it doesn't work.

I agree with her in many respect, but I am not racist or homophobiac. I personally don't care for interracial dating or marriages - but if floats your boat, sail on.

I think it is an outrage for a homosexual male to perp and play the games of denial, confusion, etc. and date women and marry them, i.e. Eddie Long. I do recognize that in the Black community, the vast majority think homosexuality is morally wrong (based on their Christian beliefs - but funny thing, that is the only thing they blast about, all other things they cherry pick or willingly ignore, like eating pork and pre-marital sex).

I think people should keep it real. If you are a homosexual, do you and fugg what the other say or think.

No matter how much they hate it, they can't change it. Sexuality can't be changed.

To me gay is a lifestyle, and not every homosexual leads the lifestyle - but at the end of the day, what someone else eats does not make me shit!

People also need to realize the definition of racist. I do not think Blacks in America can be racist. Prejudiced, yes, racist no. We are not in control of the institutions that make determinations in people's lives, i.e. military, banking, insurance, real estate and the judiciary. A racist by their hatred of another race can make decisions that keep that race from prospering. Eleven per cent of a population is not controlling or defining anything.

Jill Scott certainly isn't. BTW before the fact hounds leap out, Barack Obama is not Black, he is bi-racial, period!

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Reply #25 posted 08/06/11 3:45am

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She's neither racist nor homophobic, you guys need to lighten the fuck up.

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Reply #26 posted 08/06/11 6:32am

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RnBAmbassador said:

I think it is an outrage for a homosexual male to perp and play the games of denial, confusion, etc. and date women and marry them, i.e. Eddie Long. I do recognize that in the Black community, the vast majority think homosexuality is morally wrong (based on their Christian beliefs - but funny thing, that is the only thing they blast about, all other things they cherry pick or willingly ignore, like eating pork and pre-marital sex).

I think people should keep it real. If you are a homosexual, do you and fugg what the other say or think.

No matter how much they hate it, they can't change it. Sexuality can't be changed.

To me gay is a lifestyle, and not every homosexual leads the lifestyle - but at the end of the day, what someone else eats does not make me shit!

THIIIIIIIS!!!!! I feel exactly the same way.

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Reply #27 posted 08/06/11 6:39am

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I happen to like her music... A lot.

I don't find it it "bland", as someone called it. To me, it's "mellow". When I want to shake my ass, I listen to something else.

I don't know her as a person, so I can't comment on that. But everyone has an opinion; we won't agree with all of them, and some will offend us. Such is life.

While you guys work it out on here tonight, I'll be at her concert... music


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Your lies, they cut me.
Now your words don't mean a thing.
I don't give a damn if you ever loved me..."

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Reply #28 posted 08/06/11 9:11am

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dancerella said:

I just saw a tweet that she wrote about a couple she saw, where she was asking why women marry gay men?

Which woman was she asking about? Mayte or Mani? lol

Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #29 posted 08/06/11 9:20am

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Yeah I know two men at my job who are ...obviously gay...and they are married to women. I really just shake my head at these men who think they are pulling a one up on society while they are strutting their stuff so hard it makes me look like a football athlete compared. I dont get it....

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