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Thread started 02/10/03 1:55pm

katt

British record industry

The British record industry has experienced its biggest sales decline in decades, the BBC has learned.

Figures out this week will show sales of CDs and other recorded music were down almost 4% last year, says the British Phonographic Industry (BPI).

It is understood the figures will reveal the biggest downturn in a single year since the birth of the CD market in the early 1980s.

The industry is blaming piracy, including illegal duplication and distribution by international criminals, for the decrease.

The value of trade deliveries (albums and singles) in 2001 was just over £1.2bn - this includes LPs, cassettes and minidiscs as well as CDs.

Some of the decline can be explained by price-cutting. There is fierce competition in the leisure market as rivals in the entertainment business try to woo British shoppers.

But the BPI says piracy is the main factor.

People are either downloading tracks from unauthorised online suppliers or buying CDs which have been illegally duplicated and are sold in street markets.

"The illegal CD market is half as big as the legitimate one and is growing daily - it's a significant threat to the industry," said BPI chairman Peter Jamieson.

The recording companies are not in a healthy state and have been laying off people progressively."

The BPI, which works with police forces to track down the bootleg CD reproduction plants, says there is evidence of links with organised crime.

Last year a total of seven million CDs were seized in raids on premises around the country, an increase of almost 50% on the previous year.

Officers at the counterfeit products unit of the Police Service of Northern Ireland have told the BBC that paramilitary groups are involved.

The illicit sale of CDs and other related products has become one of the main sources of income for these groups.

But others, including some of the smaller record labels, say the big companies are simply not keeping up with the demands of modern music buyers.

The critics argue that piracy is a convenient excuse for the record industry to hide behind.

They claim that tastes are changing and people prefer a wider range of electronic formats for their entertainment.

Alternatively the industry may not be offering the type of music which appeals to a younger generation of listeners.

Some analysts say that the record companies must accept the reality of the internet and the desire of consumers to download music.

Calum Chace, who leads the media practice at KPMG's Strategic and Commercial Intelligence Group, said: "They have to make their product available digitally and to make it more attractive for consumers to get it from them than to get it free.

"They can offer subscription services where you get access to a defined catalogue for a specific time period or perhaps bundle access to concerts on a discounted basis with access to interviews."

There is no doubting the fact piracy is a big problem for the music business. Industry sources acknowledge they have to adapt to the realities.
[This message was edited Fri Feb 14 2:31:07 PST 2003 by katt]
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Reply #1 posted 02/10/03 2:19pm

Dan

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Bring the prices of CDs down then!!!
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Reply #2 posted 02/10/03 2:59pm

JDINTERACTIVE

They had it coming...CD's are far 2 expensive 2 buy in the UK.
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Reply #3 posted 02/10/03 3:28pm

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katt said:

The British record industry has experienced its biggest sales decline in decades, the BBC has learned.

Figures out this week will show sales of CDs and other recorded music were down almost 4% last year, says the British Phonographic Industry (BPI).

It is understood the figures will reveal the biggest downturn in a single year since the birth of the CD market in the early 1980s.

The industry is blaming piracy, including illegal duplication and distribution by international criminals, for the decrease.

The value of trade deliveries (albums and singles) in 2001 was just over £1.2bn - this includes LPs, cassettes and minidiscs as well as CDs.

Some of the decline can be explained by price-cutting. There is fierce competition in the leisure market as rivals in the entertainment business try to woo British shoppers.

But the BPI says piracy is the main factor.

People are either downloading tracks from unauthorised online suppliers or buying CDs which have been illegally duplicated and are sold in street markets.

"The illegal CD market is half as big as the legitimate one and is growing daily - it's a significant threat to the industry," said BPI chairman Peter Jamieson.

The recording companies are not in a healthy state and have been laying off people progressively."

The BPI, which works with police forces to track down the bootleg CD reproduction plants, says there is evidence of links with organised crime.

Last year a total of seven million CDs were seized in raids on premises around the country, an increase of almost 50% on the previous year.

Officers at the counterfeit products unit of the Police Service of Northern Ireland have told the BBC that paramilitary groups are involved.

The illicit sale of CDs and other related products has become one of the main sources of income for these groups.

But others, including some of the smaller record labels, say the big companies are simply not keeping up with the demands of modern music buyers.

The critics argue that piracy is a convenient excuse for the record industry to hide behind.

They claim that tastes are changing and people prefer a wider range of electronic formats for their entertainment.

Alternatively the industry may not be offering the type of music which appeals to a younger generation of listeners.

Some analysts say that the record companies must accept the reality of the internet and the desire of consumers to download music.

Calum Chace, who leads the media practice at KPMG's Strategic and Commercial Intelligence Group, said: "They have to make their product available digitally and to make it more attractive for consumers to get it from them than to get it free.

"They can offer subscription services where you get access to a defined catalogue for a specific time period or perhaps bundle access to concerts on a discounted basis with access to interviews."

There is no doubting the fact piracy is a big problem for the music business. Industry sources acknowledge they have to adapt to the realities.

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[This message was edited Mon Feb 10 13:59:28 PST 2003 by katt]



This isn't all hype. Tower Records are closing their flagship store in Piccadilly Circus. I never bought anything in there because you could get the same thing cheaper a couple of streets away, but still, it's a sign O the times.
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Reply #4 posted 02/10/03 8:00pm

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They make me fucking laugh when they blame piracy and the people for decline in sales. It's never anything to do with those in the industry is it. An industry led by morons who are so preoccupied with making a quick $$ they don't realise its costing them more in the long run. So called acts like Gareth Gates, Will Young and half the Ibiza dance bollocks thats in the charts will always shift singles, but they will NEVER sell albums. This is their problem, those people who buy those records won't by albums. Firstly half of them don't have the funds basically because they're children and secondly most of them haven't got the attention span for an album that they know is gonna be mostly shit and full of filler anyway. Pete Waterman and that Cowell guy should ask themselves how many multiplatinum albums they've been responsible for. Hardly fucking any! They get quick single success through agressive marketing for singles and went their poor albums don't sell they blame the public and piracy. Oh not to mention that the price of CDs in the UK borders on criminal.
Bottom line, if the industry doesn't invest in acts with REAL talent things are gonna get really dire. The music industry will kill music..what an irony.
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Reply #5 posted 02/14/03 9:04pm

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It's very simple. Everyone is waiting for the new Dannii Minogue CD and then their record sales in the UK will the hit the roof!
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Reply #6 posted 02/14/03 9:59pm

mistermaxxx

JDINTERACTIVE said:

They had it coming...CD's are far 2 expensive 2 buy in the UK.
it's too much here but if you bring some Hype like 50 Cent then you can sell a Act still.
mistermaxxx
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Reply #7 posted 02/15/03 1:28am

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I don't think CD prices in the UK are that bad. Really, I hardly ever pay more than £8.99 for a new chart album - but it is much easier to find these prices on the internet. It's the back catalogue stuff that prices get yanked up for. It depends of the record label. Warner Bros tend to put their prices down to UNDER half it's original price, and keep the albums on sale almost all year round. EMI and Sony aren't as generous. When they put an album on sale they reduce it to the price it should have been in the first place.

Prices ARE coming down, but they're coming down in small outlets. Supermarkets and Woolworths etc. and not primary music retailers, and they only ever stock the Top 40.

I totally agree about the idiotic marketing practices of Pete Waterman and Simon Cowell. Unfortunately acts like Westlife and Steps do have respectable album sales in this country. However, they don't last for all that long and they have almost zero appeal outside of the UK and Ireland. Robbie Williams may seem like a long term artist in the UK, but that contract of his was beyond ridiculous when the boy isn't really a reliable and safe representative for what the label wants (e.g. blurting out how great piracy is, pledging to retire before he's 40, breaking his songwriting partnership with Guy Chambers and stating he has no major interest in American success)
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Reply #8 posted 02/15/03 4:05am

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Ellie said:

I don't think CD prices in the UK are that bad. Really, I hardly ever pay more than £8.99 for a new chart album - but it is much easier to find these prices on the internet. It's the back catalogue stuff that prices get yanked up for. It depends of the record label. Warner Bros tend to put their prices down to UNDER half it's original price, and keep the albums on sale almost all year round. EMI and Sony aren't as generous. When they put an album on sale they reduce it to the price it should have been in the first place.

Prices ARE coming down, but they're coming down in small outlets. Supermarkets and Woolworths etc. and not primary music retailers, and they only ever stock the Top 40.

I totally agree about the idiotic marketing practices of Pete Waterman and Simon Cowell. Unfortunately acts like Westlife and Steps do have respectable album sales in this country. However, they don't last for all that long and they have almost zero appeal outside of the UK and Ireland. Robbie Williams may seem like a long term artist in the UK, but that contract of his was beyond ridiculous when the boy isn't really a reliable and safe representative for what the label wants (e.g. blurting out how great piracy is, pledging to retire before he's 40, breaking his songwriting partnership with Guy Chambers and stating he has no major interest in American success)


Westlife and Steps though have adult fans, the same with Robbie Williams. People who CAN afford to buy CDs. Look at most of the pop acts in the charts, virtually non of them have cross-generation appeal. The music is marketed at children and children are far less likely to buy CDs. Look at sales of Will Youngs and Gareth Gates' albums, add Darius to that equation and hell knows how many other chart acts who released albums. Their sales are poor! They sell loads of singles though. Then look at acts like Foo Fighters, Red Hot Chili Peppers and Feeder. Acts that for the most part struggle to get songs B listed never mind A listed. Their albums sell more units! Why?! The music is better and two it's just more than adolescents who buy the sounds. Simple as that.
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Reply #9 posted 02/15/03 4:25am

ian

I bought more CDs in 2002 than in any previous year, I reckon. But I bought em from play.com where they are cheaper (American imports) and don't pay the rip-off high street prices...
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