Alamine said:

that dude hit the limo driver, and in turn got his ass beat down

well deserved, white folks thinking they can just go around and do whatever they want, an dthen sue when they get they ass beat for that white boy frat bullshit - drinking and suckerpunching someone

What on earth has this to do with someone being black or white?

Alamine said:

that dude hit the limo driver, and in turn got his ass beat down

well deserved, white folks thinking they can just go around and do whatever they want, an dthen sue when they get they ass beat for that white boy frat bullshit - drinking and suckerpunching someone

Is there another video that shows what you are ranting about?

sosgemini said:

Alamine said:

that dude hit the limo driver, and in turn got his ass beat down

well deserved, white folks thinking they can just go around and do whatever they want, an dthen sue when they get they ass beat for that white boy frat bullshit - drinking and suckerpunching someone

Is there another video that shows what you are ranting about?

Yeah. All of that certainly was not in the video I watched

robertlove said:

Alamine said:

that dude hit the limo driver, and in turn got his ass beat down

well deserved, white folks thinking they can just go around and do whatever they want, an dthen sue when they get they ass beat for that white boy frat bullshit - drinking and suckerpunching someone

What on earth has this to do with someone being black or white?

Exactly! Ego has no color.

4 WORDS: out. of. court. settlement.

Anybody that believes that happened... well you got a wild ass imagination.

And race ain't got nothing to do with what the fuck happened here. This is why I hated going to other places where this is talked about. It had to do with Patti's dumb ass and her equally dumb ass "bodyguards" (or hench thugs) beating up on an unsuspecting victim for something that could've been avoided. His blood is on Patti's and 'em hands. Fuck that. I hope some of Patti's fans ain't defending her actions because if so they're low as she is. Yeah that's right I said it.

Timmy84 said:

And race ain't got nothing to do with what the fuck happened here. This is why I hated going to other places where this is talked about. It had to do with Patti's dumb ass and her equally dumb ass "bodyguards" (or hench thugs) beating up on an unsuspecting victim for something that could've been avoided. His blood is on Patti's and 'em hands. Fuck that. I hope some of Patti's fans ain't defending her actions because if so they're low as she is. Yeah that's right I said it.

Do you know the full story or only what you saw on the video?

Was he so unsuspecting? Seems to be only on-side of the story out.

Wow blood on Patti's hands, [Snip - luv4u], but save the drama

you don't know the full story, the dude that got hit don't even know the full story cause he don't remember what he did before he got beat down

Patti is innocent until proven otherwise

until then, [Snip - luv4u] can only speculate, and disrespect Patti, like this site does of 99 percent black female artist

[As the rules state - luv4u ..............

Hey Alamine,

Everything okay over there? You seem to be displaying an high and unneccessary level of, umm, homophobia and anger.

Alamine said:

Timmy84 said:

And race ain't got nothing to do with what the fuck happened here. This is why I hated going to other places where this is talked about. It had to do with Patti's dumb ass and her equally dumb ass "bodyguards" (or hench thugs) beating up on an unsuspecting victim for something that could've been avoided. His blood is on Patti's and 'em hands. Fuck that. I hope some of Patti's fans ain't defending her actions because if so they're low as she is. Yeah that's right I said it.

Do you know the full story or only what you saw on the video?

Was he so unsuspecting? Seems to be only on-side of the story out.

Wow blood on Patti's hands, [Snip - luv4u], but save the drama

you don't know the full story, the dude that got hit don't even know the full story cause he don't remember what he did before he got beat down

Patti is innocent until proven otherwise

until then, [Snip - luv4u] can only speculate, and disrespect Patti, like this site does of 99 percent black female artist

Damn, you must enjoy your life.

First making this into a race thing, than putting down your fellow orgers....your not helping Miss Labelle you know, you're making it worse...

He said something? [img:$uid]http://maryluvs.clicdev.com/f/html/emoticons/maryluvs_newspaper.gif[/img:$uid]

Oh... oh well if that's how he feel, can't change his mind. [img:$uid]http://maryluvs.clicdev.com/f/html/emoticons/maryluvs_coffee.gif[/img:$uid]

But hey:

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Have a nice day, whatever you are that got angry at what I said.

Alamine said:

Timmy84 said:

And race ain't got nothing to do with what the fuck happened here. This is why I hated going to other places where this is talked about. It had to do with Patti's dumb ass and her equally dumb ass "bodyguards" (or hench thugs) beating up on an unsuspecting victim for something that could've been avoided. His blood is on Patti's and 'em hands. Fuck that. I hope some of Patti's fans ain't defending her actions because if so they're low as she is. Yeah that's right I said it.

Do you know the full story or only what you saw on the video?

full story's in the video, stupid.

Timmy84 said:

babybugz said:

I have to basically separate the person and artist these days unless they abuse somebody ie Chris Brown or make racial remarks. These celebs are crazy I try not to get too caught up now

Word!

I was still dying at her eating chicken

babybugz said:

Timmy84 said:

Word!

I was still dying at her eating chicken

Yeah! But I guess her shows have gotten as boring as her last few albums.

Timmy84 said:

babybugz said:

I was still dying at her eating chicken

Yeah! But I guess her shows have gotten as boring as her last few albums.

She need to focus on that music just like she focus on that chicken.

babybugz said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah! But I guess her shows have gotten as boring as her last few albums.

She need to focus on that music just like she focus on that chicken.

You can go to her site right now in the shop section and order Lady Marmalade spices. So she's selling out her funk too? It's like the 1973-1983 Patti was different from today's Patti lmao Time machine should be invented for good purposes.

Timmy84 said:

babybugz said:

She need to focus on that music just like she focus on that chicken.

You can go to her site right now in the shop section and order Lady Marmalade spices. So she's selling out her funk too? It's like the 1973-1983 Patti was different from today's Patti lmao Time machine should be invented for good purposes.

You are fed up with her

Red herring: The Houston Police didn't file criminal charges

Red herring: Robert Bowick, an attorney for King, said, "It doesn't matter if Cadet King was impaired from a drink or two. He was minding his own business.

Something tells me, there's a lil' bit more to this story than the video presents. Even so, that's what courts are for.

I'd say, this is much to do about nothing.

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babybugz said:

Timmy84 said:

You can go to her site right now in the shop section and order Lady Marmalade spices. So she's selling out her funk too? It's like the 1973-1983 Patti was different from today's Patti lmao Time machine should be invented for good purposes.

You are fed up with her

TD3 said:

Red herring: The Houston Police didn't file criminal charges

Red herring: Robert Bowick, an attorney for King, said, "It doesn't matter if Cadet King was impaired from a drink or two. He was minding his own business.

Something tells me, there a lil' bit more to this story than the video presents. Even so, that's what courts are for.

I'd say, this is much to do about nothing.

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I'll give you that second herring but the first one makes sense to me. They didn't file charges cause they were star struck and taking pictures with Ms. Lulabelle.

sosgemini said:

TD3 said:

Red herring: The Houston Police didn't file criminal charges

Red herring: Robert Bowick, an attorney for King, said, "It doesn't matter if Cadet King was impaired from a drink or two. He was minding his own business.

Something tells me, there a lil' bit more to this story than the video presents. Even so, that's what courts are for.

I'd say, this is much to do about nothing.

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I'll give you that second herring but the first one makes sense to me. They didn't file charges cause they were star struck and taking pictures with Ms. Lulabelle.

I'll repeat criminal charges were not filed. Police presents the evidence to the DA they (the DA) inturn determines if there's enough evidence to precede. If records show there were calls into Police stating .... a man fitting Mr. Bowick description was intoxicated and harassing people in a limo, I'd say there's a lil bit more to this story.

The old saying: her side, his side and the truth. In my opinion, it was a mistake for his lawyer to even acknowledge Mr. Bowick had any drinks to the press, loose lips. Another thing, in

Mr. Bowick civil lawsuit he states Ms. LaBelle ordered her bodyguards to beat him up. He'll have to present evidence or witness to prove Ms. LaBelle gave orders to beat the snot out of him. If his lawyers fail to provide that evidence, in most instances she's not liable to pay monetary damages.

I'm not sure what went down, the video doesn't have audio and we don't know what happened before the ruff up, if anything. Did something happen before Mr. Bowick and LaBelle's bodyguard's came into camara range? I don't have an opinion one way are other because everything isn't known, we'll all see when and if this goes to court.

TD3 said:

sosgemini said:

I'll give you that second herring but the first one makes sense to me. They didn't file charges cause they were star struck and taking pictures with Ms. Lulabelle.

I'll repeat criminal charges were not filed. Police presents the evidence to the DA they (the DA) inturn determines if there's enough evidence to precede. If records show there were calls into Police stating .... a man fitting Mr. Bowick description was intoxicated and harassing people in a limo, I'd say there's a lil bit more to this story.

The old saying: her side, his side and the truth. In my opinion, it was a mistake for his lawyer to even acknowledge Mr. Bowick had any drinks to the press, loose lips. Another thing, in

Mr. Bowick civil lawsuit he states Ms. LaBelle ordered her bodyguards to beat him up. He'll have to present evidence or witness to prove Ms. LaBelle gave orders to beat the snot out of him. If his lawyers fail to provide that evidence, in most instances she's not liable to pay monetary damages.

I'm not sure what went down, the video doesn't have audio and we don't know what happened before the ruff up, if anything. Did something happen before Mr. Bowick and LaBelle's bodyguard's came into camara range? I don't have an opinion one way are other because everything isn't known, we'll all see when and if this goes to court.

you really ought to be ashamed of yourself.

babybugz said:

Timmy84 said:

Word!

I was still dying at her eating chicken

Ima waiting for her to eat crow!

Hope he sues the hell out of her. That is just ridiculous. He was in the right place at the right time cause he is going to get paid!!

Okay I looked at the video from beginnning 2 end he did not look drunk 2 me at all and second he's just a young man talking on the phone minding his business! second no reason at all 4 a beat down like that come on patti u r better than that, can the diva attitude bcause karma is a b**ch!

errant said:

TD3 said:

I'll repeat criminal charges were not filed. Police presents the evidence to the DA they (the DA) inturn determines if there's enough evidence to precede. If records show there were calls into Police stating .... a man fitting Mr. Bowick description was intoxicated and harassing people in a limo, I'd say there's a lil bit more to this story.

The old saying: her side, his side and the truth. In my opinion, it was a mistake for his lawyer to even acknowledge Mr. Bowick had any drinks to the press, loose lips. Another thing, in. Bowick civil lawsuit he states Ms. LaBelle ordered her bodyguards to beat him up. He'll have to present evidence or witness to prove Ms. LaBelle gave orders to beat the snot out of him. If his lawyers fail to provide that evidence, in most instances she's not liable to pay monetary damages.

I'm not sure what went down, the video doesn't have audio and we don't know what happened before the ruff up, if anything. Did something happen before Mr. Bowick and LaBelle's bodyguard's came into camara range? I don't have an opinion one way are other because everything isn't known, we'll all see when and if this goes to court.

you really ought to be ashamed of yourself.

Due process clause of the fourteenth amendment.

I'm not stating yea or nay; I've stated here many times I don't believe in "hood rules" and it's not an excuse or a defense. Having said that... a civil lawsuit has been filed stating Ms. LaBelle ordered her bodyguards to beat up this young man. This will have to be proven, in a court of law. Unless, where there's smoke there's fire -via the video- Ms. LaBelle counsel could recommend she settle out of court.

Mr. Bowick lawyer made a major mistake in my opinion when he acknowledge anything about whether his client had a drink, drinks, or was impaired. "It doesn't matter if Cadet King was impaired from a drink or two". Really? Isn't LaBelle people claiming an intoxicated man was harassing them... he threw a punch at their limo driver? If he was "impaired" is it possible he couldn't remember all he said or done? The police said, they smelled alcohol on him.

In a Civil litigation, the burden of proof is intially on the plantiff. However, there are a number of technical situations in which the burdens shifts to the defendant. This is called, a prima facie case, the burden shifts to the defendant to refute or rebut the plaintiff's evidence. The police claimed they smelled alcohol, did they give Mr. Bowick a breathalyzer? If they thought he was inebriated and someone called saying they had been assaulted why didn't they consider arresting Mr. Bowick? This could along with his claims of LaBelle people filing a false police report and as sosgemini suggested, the police were star struck, so they ignored their duty to serve and protect.

Playing devil's advocate: Ms. LaBelle could argue she has many fans.... people who approach her always in public. Its it feasible that her bodyguards would jump someone because they stood close to her luggage? In this civli lawsuite the plantiff says Ms. LaBelle ordered her bodyguards to kick his ass. Form that video we see a couple of people and one person punch Mr. Bowick out. Does the video show that... Ms. LaBelle directing her bodyguards to beat up Mr. Bowick? Is there more video at different angles? Words and how they are used in law are very important. Ordered? If she didn't order her bodyguards to beat Mr. Bowick down, is Ms. LaBelle libel under Texas law? She may not be but they may not let her bodyguards off the hook but guess who has deeper pockets. In short, the video may not be the end all to be all in a court of law. That's why I said, this is much to do about nothing... until you hear everyone's side.

The shame, the understanding of civics / goverment appears to be at an all time low.

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I don't think anyone here gives a squat about the grounds of the civil case. I think everyone is too outraged at someone being beatdown and the police taking a picture with an entertainer who was involved. To make matters worse, the victim involved happened to go to the top, let me repeat, top military school in our Nation, was booted due to what appears to be a false police report and all this during war time when folks have a soft spot for our military. THAT. Is. Why. People. Are. Outraged!!!!

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sosgemini said:

I don't think anyone here gives a squat about the grounds of the civil case. I think everyone is too outraged at someone being beatdown and the police taking a picture with an entertainer who was involved. To make matters worse, the victim involved happened to go to the top, let me repeat, top military school in our Nation, was booted due to what appears to be a false police report and all this during war time when folks have a soft spot for our military. THAT. Is. Why. People. Are. Outraged!!!!

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exactly. on the other hand, there are some people with their tongues so far up patti's ass the fumes are causing brain damage.

sosgemini said:

I don't think anyone here gives a squat about the grounds of the civil case. I think everyone is too outraged at someone being beatdown and the police taking a picture with an entertainer who was involved. To make matters worse, the victim involved happened to go to the top, let me repeat, top military school in our Nation, was booted due to what appears to be a false police report and all this during war time when folks have a soft spot for our military. THAT. Is. Why. People. Are. Outraged!!!!

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That explains everything doesn't it ? Scary.

We have people in this country who think others shouldn't get due process because they've deemed them unworthy or less than. Sosgemini it goes both ways, I don't uphold knee jerk reactions.... that's why it's important to have due process for everyone. It makes one wonder why he didn't also file a lawsuit against H.P.D.

The alledged victim in this case "Richard King," according to the press reports, had been drinking.

Then it says, he said "he was not impaired." Since when does a person with an obvious smell of alcohol upon his/her person get to determined the level of non-sobriety. There is no problem for the police officer to do a blood test (perhaps not a breathelizer test) on an injured person under the influence while on the way to the hospital.

I found this article: http://www.chron.com/disp...94731.html , which made me question this incident.

If you look at the video again, you'll see from the very first moment of the tape, his yellow shirt. Then when everyone from the bus has walked away, you still see this guy. It's as though he must have walked past then returned to the area.

Too bad there is no audio replay of the incident. My question is why when everyone else has left the area Richard King (who was momentarily out of the frame) decided to return to that particular area.

Was he a little drunk and had a nosy desire to get the 411 on these well dressed citizens who were minding there own business?

An inquiring mind wants to know.

by the way, just wanted to add: I am in no way excusing the violence in this incident.

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