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Reply #150 posted 05/20/11 4:25am

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Graycap23 said:

Based on this list......they should CANCEL the show.

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Reply #151 posted 05/20/11 11:27am

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Tyler never said that Em's his influence, his influence actually is pharrell and the neptunes, and you can clearly hear that in his production on the latest album.

Frank ocean and Earl to of the best in their field and at such a young age, one RNB and the other Hiphop.

I remember Mint condition posting on Facebook about Frank saying that he's dope, same thing with Mos def on twitter about Earl and Tyler.

Frank has written for John Legend a lot of songs which is not cliche at all, also a song for Bieber who the whole crew fuck with anyways. He's also writing songs now for Beyonce.

He is influence by eminem he talked about it before I remember searching to see the big deal on this kid and Eminem seem to pop up in various articles , interviews etc. And yes He talked about his N.E.R.D love as well but his productions is no where near them so maybe he need to study them some more. And Beyonce is cliche lol .

He never said Eminem was his influence, he was asked if he was a fan of Em since he has a similar style of content and the dude replied "yea, Eminem's chill" Actually his production on the new album is very Neptunes (Not N.E.RD since they have more of a rock sound) and he's been crticized a lot for that in the recent days since the album release. Nothing cliche about Beyonce, she's one of the biggest/talented artists of our time, blah blah, Frank is also in the studio with NAS, now tell me that's cliche.

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Reply #152 posted 05/20/11 12:36pm

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babybugz said:

He is influence by eminem he talked about it before I remember searching to see the big deal on this kid and Eminem seem to pop up in various articles , interviews etc. And yes He talked about his N.E.R.D love as well but his productions is no where near them so maybe he need to study them some more. And Beyonce is cliche lol .

He never said Eminem was his influence, he was asked if he was a fan of Em since he has a similar style of content and the dude replied "yea, Eminem's chill" Actually his production on the new album is very Neptunes (Not N.E.RD since they have more of a rock sound) and he's been crticized a lot for that in the recent days since the album release. Nothing cliche about Beyonce, she's one of the biggest/talented artists of our time, blah blah, Frank is also in the studio with NAS, now tell me that's cliche.

Eminem is still an influence in it I’m not going to go back and forth arguing over a fad I wish them the best but they are and Beyonce is that’s why she flopping now.I got love for Beyonce but telling it like it is girl needs to evolve.

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Reply #153 posted 05/20/11 12:47pm

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Anyway … I wonder what coonery BET got cooked up for the awards show this time.

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Reply #154 posted 05/20/11 1:57pm

DrHeat

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DrHeat said:

He never said Eminem was his influence, he was asked if he was a fan of Em since he has a similar style of content and the dude replied "yea, Eminem's chill" Actually his production on the new album is very Neptunes (Not N.E.RD since they have more of a rock sound) and he's been crticized a lot for that in the recent days since the album release. Nothing cliche about Beyonce, she's one of the biggest/talented artists of our time, blah blah, Frank is also in the studio with NAS, now tell me that's cliche.

Eminem is still an influence in it I’m not going to go back and forth arguing over a fad I wish them the best but they are and Beyonce is that’s why she flopping now.I got love for Beyonce but telling it like it is girl needs to evolve.

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If you dont wanna argue dont post false info, you see Em as an influence fine, but don't say Tyler said he was an influence, and Beyonce is Big weither she's flopped now or not that's not the issue. Frank is working with the BIGGEST names in the industry.

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Reply #155 posted 05/20/11 1:58pm

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Anyway … I wonder what coonery BET got cooked up for the awards show this time.

You ALREADY know what they're gonna do. I wouldn't wonder. I'll just tune out until the LAA thing. lol

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Reply #156 posted 05/20/11 2:48pm

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DrHeat said:

babybugz said:

Eminem is still an influence in it I’m not going to go back and forth arguing over a fad I wish them the best but they are and Beyonce is that’s why she flopping now.I got love for Beyonce but telling it like it is girl needs to evolve.

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If you dont wanna argue dont post false info, you see Em as an influence fine, but don't say Tyler said he was an influence, and Beyonce is Big weither she's flopped now or not that's not the issue. Frank is working with the BIGGEST names in the industry.

I said what I saw in the articles was that he was influence by eminem and if he didn’t DIRECTLY say it then my mistake but clearly by his gimmick he is don’t get mad because he is influence by eminem. You are getting upset because I’m not stanning for gimmick future too bad. lol Most of his fans are young teens to early 20's nobody takes them seriously and nobody is thinking about them. lol But like I said in a post that you probably skipped over is that I follow them so it's not like I hate them. lol and I think Frank should leave them because he clearly has the most talent out of all them and i'm not even a fan of frank but I can admit that. And Beyonce is still overrated and I stick to it. lol

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Reply #157 posted 05/20/11 2:49pm

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babybugz said:

Anyway … I wonder what coonery BET got cooked up for the awards show this time.

You ALREADY know what they're gonna do. I wouldn't wonder. I'll just tune out until the LAA thing. lol

I wish that channel get cancelled. lol

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Reply #158 posted 05/20/11 3:22pm

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Timmy84 said:

You ALREADY know what they're gonna do. I wouldn't wonder. I'll just tune out until the LAA thing. lol

I wish that channel get cancelled. lol

Like for real. lol Besides TV-One and Centric done snatch their wig long time ago. evillol

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Reply #159 posted 05/20/11 3:29pm

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babybugz said:

I wish that channel get cancelled. lol

Like for real. lol Besides TV-One and Centric done snatch their wig long time ago. evillol

LOL I know centric had an R. Kelly marathon this past weekend I was like eek lol

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Reply #160 posted 05/20/11 3:29pm

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Timmy84 said:

Like for real. lol Besides TV-One and Centric done snatch their wig long time ago. evillol

LOL I know centric had an R. Kelly marathon this past weekend I was like eek lol

Yeah and they had a similar marathon during Janet's 45th birthday. lol biggrin

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Reply #161 posted 05/20/11 9:24pm

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Just reading this just tells me how fucked up this industry really is when it comes to they perceptions of talent, awards, hype and all that other bullcrap. Stephen Hill is such a douchebag...and these other hype-driven, award-loving folks (i.e. Keyisha Cole, Trina, etc.) need to kick rocks. I'm dying laughing at this article...falloff

Courtesy of Billboard.com

http://www.billboard.com/...5822.story

BET's Stephen Hill Speaks On Trina and the '2011 BET Awards' Nominations

by Erika Ramirez, N.Y. | May 20, 2011 6:50 EDT

On Tuesday (May 17), BET Networks announced the nominations for the '2011 BET Awards.' Chris Brown leads the nominations with six nominations and Lil Wayne follows with five nominations.

Chris Brown Leads BET Awa...ominations

Soon thereafter, artists took to Twitter to speak on BET and the nominations. Breezy thanked BET and his fans, "Thx to BET for all the support and I love teambreezy." Keyshia Cole and Trina, on the other hand, weren't as happy on the nods. "Fuck BET," Trina simply said.

Was Trina Snubbed by the ...BET Awards

The nominees for the best female hip-hop artist category, in which Trina would be nominated for if eligible, were Nicki Minaj, Diamond, Lola Munroe and Cymphonique ( Master P's daughter). I was a bit shocked myself, considering each of the nominee's sales and pop culture impact and that of Trina's. Thankfully, the backlash has died down but the question still remains: why were these four women nominated over Trina?

BET's president of programming, music and specials, Stephen Hill, took time to talk to Billboard.com's The Juice on the '2011 BET Awards' nomination process and Trina's backlash against BET.

The Juice: First, how do you feel about Chris Brown leading the nominations?

Stephen Hill: I was pleasantly surprised. He's come back with hits. He's obviously very poplar. But also what it shows that the industry and fans recognized what he did.

Explain the nomination process behind the BET Awards.

Hill: We have an eligibility period [which] is April 1st of one year to March 31st of the next year. For music categories, anybody who submits a video to us and that first airing of that video occurs between April 1st of one year to March 31st of the next year is eligible for that years nominations. We have a voting academy that is comprised of 150 experts from the recording entertainment industry [including] media, bloggers and fans who we invite to join the academy through BET.com. They all get electronic ballots and are asked to pick 5 people in each category [from those who submitted]. The votes are tallied up by a third party. We change the members of the academy [every year], the fans always change.

Why are there only four artists nominated for the best female hip-hop artist category?

Hill: Much to my dismay, we had a total of four artists who submitted videos during the eligibility period (April 1, 2010 - March 31, 2011). We had four women submit videos where they were the leads, not as a feature but as a lead: Nicki Minaj, Diamond, Cymphonique and Lola Monroe. Since we usually have five people who are eligible in the category and we only had four people… it's kind of easy math.

The Lola Monroe video features Trina, but as feature that doesn't make you eligible for a piece of work under your own name.

Were you shocked when BET received backalsh against the nominations, specifically from Trina?

Hill: We strive to be fair and thorough. We're not perfect but we strive. So when we got this heat around an artist that wasn't eligible. We took it to heart cause we care about our audience and artists.

The last video we received from her, where she's the lead, unfortunately that video came in the 2010 eligibility. There's been no video eligible for nomination in 2011. It's a really easy answer. She's been nominated before, I'm sure she'll be nominated again, [but] during this eligibility period she had no video that was submitted to BET.

Have you spoken to Trina?

I have reached out to Trina. I've tried to make a connection just so we can have a conversation. I want her to have the correct information. We all work together we will be working together again. If Trina was eligible, I think we'd all agree that she would have been nominated.

Nicki Minaj shared concern on Trina's absence via Twitter...

Hill: I think she was giving a shout out to Trina. Who I know she has a lot of respect for. I applaud that camaraderie. Trina also congratulated Diamond. You don't ever want anyone saying 'F' BET,' but if from that comes more camaraderie…. then it's all good.

What about Keyshia Cole's reaction?

Hill: This one's a tough one. We simply had to go, as we always do, with the artists who got the most votes in that [best female R&B artist] category. The nominations consist of the artists that got the top votes in that category when put to our voting academy. If there is six nominations in a category that means there was a tie.

People are asking why Beyoncé is nominated. Beyoncé submitted a video for "Why Don't You Love Me" early May of 2010. She submitted one video remaining from her "I Am… Sasha Fierce" project. That was the last video she submitted and it was submitted during this year's eligibility period. She was voted on the strength of that one video even though the bulk of that project was the year before.

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Reply #162 posted 05/20/11 9:32pm

Timmy84

Like DMX once said so eloquently about an unnamed artist he was working with: fuck Stephen Hill with an elephant dick!

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Reply #163 posted 05/20/11 9:39pm

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Like DMX once said so eloquently about an unnamed artist he was working with: fuck Stephen Hill with an elephant dick!

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Damn, that has made my night!

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Reply #164 posted 05/21/11 2:30am

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Not only black artists have no love from the industry, but they have no love from their OWN as well. Reading that interview and the reading the list of nominees doesn't surprise me, but it confirms to me that this pretentious hype-whipped industry is driving to a brick wall, it might not crash today but its inevitable.

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Reply #165 posted 05/21/11 2:00pm

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Not only black artists have no love from the industry, but they have no love from their OWN as well. Reading that interview and the reading the list of nominees doesn't surprise me, but it confirms to me that this pretentious hype-whipped industry is driving to a brick wall, it might not crash today but its inevitable.

Well I know if I don’t support an artist it has nothing to do with their skin color. I’m black but just because you are as well that’s not an automatic that I will listen.lol But I agree though.

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Reply #166 posted 05/21/11 10:17pm

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I'm black

FUCK BLACK EXPLOITATION TELEVISION

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Reply #167 posted 05/22/11 9:08am

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I'm black

FUCK BLACK EXPLOITATION TELEVISION

Same here!

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Reply #168 posted 05/22/11 10:04am

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I'm black

FUCK BLACK EXPLOITATION TELEVISION

nod I told BET to suck it years ago so I'm with ya!

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Reply #169 posted 05/22/11 12:06pm

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Focus ya'll confused That wasn't even what I was driving at.

I don't support Bamboozeld Non-Entertaining TV. Not do I support Trina either.

But I understand why she's upset. Think about it, BET is the only media outlet that caters to artists like her and her demographic, for them to snub her(time after time) puts a nasty after taste because every once in a light year I tune in that station, somebody's spinnin' the ol' "we have a responsibility to support our artists" sermon, I say SERMON because thats exactly what it is; talk.

They have no love for their artists, they have love for their own ratings. And now I'm done with this shit.

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Reply #170 posted 05/22/11 12:09pm

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^ We weren't talking about your statement. lol

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Reply #171 posted 05/22/11 12:09pm

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BET stopped loving us when Video Soul got canceled.

Real talk. nod

So fuck BET with an elephant dick.

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Reply #172 posted 05/22/11 12:44pm

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BREAKING NEWS: REPORTS HAVE BEEN MADE THAT ARETHA DECLINES HER BET LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD HONOR...

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According to the LA Times, it has been reported that Queen of Soul Aretha Franklin has declined her invitation as a 2011 BET Awards honoree for Lifetime Achievement Award. There have been no statements made from BET or its correspondents as of yet. Word has gotten out that BET has been trying getting in touch with her, but there has been no response from Aretha's camp.

I don't know how to feel about this, but if this is true, I am truly happy. I kind've saw this coming as well. Hell, I wouldn't want to be honored by any craptastic award show either. God bless her! I still don't know if I should believe this or not! I mean, it's kind've in her diva nature, but at the same time, it isn't. Oh well, more power to her. eek

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Reply #173 posted 05/22/11 12:51pm

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BREAKING NEWS: REPORTS HAVE BEEN MADE THAT ARETHA DECLINES HER BET LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD HONOR...

disbelief

According to the LA Times, it has been reported that Queen of Soul Aretha Franklin has declined her invitation as a 2011 BET Awards honoree for Lifetime Achievement Award. There have been no statements made from BET or its correspondents as of yet. Word has gotten out that BET has been trying getting in touch with her, but there has been no response from Aretha's camp.

I don't know how to feel about this, but if this is true, I am truly happy. I kind've saw this coming as well. Hell, I wouldn't want to be honored by any craptastic award show either. God bless her! I still don't know if I should believe this or not! I mean, it's kind've in her diva nature, but at the same time, it isn't. Oh well, more power to her. eek

You know? I applaud this too! FUCK BET! Aretha don't really need it. They may just give it to Patti to save face though. You know she ALWAYS shows up! lol

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Reply #174 posted 05/22/11 12:51pm

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Of course I was right though. BET WAS going to give it to her. But I was just guessing. lol biggrin

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Reply #175 posted 05/22/11 12:54pm

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silverchild said:

BREAKING NEWS: REPORTS HAVE BEEN MADE THAT ARETHA DECLINES HER BET LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD HONOR...

disbelief

I don't know how to feel about this, but if this is true, I am truly happy. I kind've saw this coming as well. Hell, I wouldn't want to be honored by any craptastic award show either. God bless her! I still don't know if I should believe this or not! I mean, it's kind've in her diva nature, but at the same time, it isn't. Oh well, more power to her. eek

You know? I applaud this too! FUCK BET! Aretha don't really need it. They may just give it to Patti to save face though. You know she ALWAYS shows up! lol

Now I'm confident that they may give it to Patti or Stevie...nod Aretha is really wising up! Gotta love her. FUCK STEPHEN HILL & THE BET UNIVERSE!

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Reply #176 posted 05/22/11 12:56pm

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Timmy84 said:

You know? I applaud this too! FUCK BET! Aretha don't really need it. They may just give it to Patti to save face though. You know she ALWAYS shows up! lol

Now I'm confident that they may give it to Patti or Stevie...nod Aretha is really wising up! Gotta love her. FUCK STEPHEN HILL & THE BET UNIVERSE!

nod Knowing BET's corny ass (and this isn't against Patti or Stevie), they KNOW they can rear them in. Stevie and Patti are just TOO FUCKING NICE. disbelief Aretha always stood her ground. Gotta admire that about her. I used to diss her because of it but now I can see why she is the way she is and I applaud her attitude, even if it can appear snotty as hell lol

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Reply #177 posted 05/22/11 1:02pm

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Now I'm confident that they may give it to Patti or Stevie...nod Aretha is really wising up! Gotta love her. FUCK STEPHEN HILL & THE BET UNIVERSE!

nod Knowing BET's corny ass (and this isn't against Patti or Stevie), they KNOW they can rear them in. Stevie and Patti are just TOO FUCKING NICE. disbelief Aretha always stood her ground. Gotta admire that about her. I used to diss her because of it but now I can see why she is the way she is and I applaud her attitude, even if it can appear snotty as hell lol

Shit ReRe wants her tribute her way or no way! She must still be pissed about the failed tribute that the Grammys put on for her this year. With the exception of two, they fucked that tribute up...all the way up. Gotta praise her for this choice!

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Reply #178 posted 05/22/11 1:10pm

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Timmy84 said:

nod Knowing BET's corny ass (and this isn't against Patti or Stevie), they KNOW they can rear them in. Stevie and Patti are just TOO FUCKING NICE. disbelief Aretha always stood her ground. Gotta admire that about her. I used to diss her because of it but now I can see why she is the way she is and I applaud her attitude, even if it can appear snotty as hell lol

Shit ReRe wants her tribute her way or no way! She must still be pissed about the failed tribute that the Grammys put on for her this year. With the exception of two, they fucked that tribute up...all the way up. Gotta praise her for this choice!

RIGHT!!!!!

I know she was throwing shade when she was like "I'm sitting here watching this eating banana pudding" as if she was saying, "you bitches can't give me my propers, fuck outta here, wait until I come back next year". lol

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Reply #179 posted 05/22/11 1:42pm

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BREAKING NEWS: REPORTS HAVE BEEN MADE THAT ARETHA DECLINES HER BET LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD HONOR...

disbelief

According to the LA Times, it has been reported that Queen of Soul Aretha Franklin has declined her invitation as a 2011 BET Awards honoree for Lifetime Achievement Award. There have been no statements made from BET or its correspondents as of yet. Word has gotten out that BET has been trying getting in touch with her, but there has been no response from Aretha's camp.

I don't know how to feel about this, but if this is true, I am truly happy. I kind've saw this coming as well. Hell, I wouldn't want to be honored by any craptastic award show either. God bless her! I still don't know if I should believe this or not! I mean, it's kind've in her diva nature, but at the same time, it isn't. Oh well, more power to her. eek

See this is why I LOVE Aretha.. well it is not the ONLY reason why but yall get what I mean LOL

She dont take no bullshit and she not afraid to speak her mind. Love it Love it!! I wish more artists would be like that. AWARDS DONT MEAN ISH FOLKS...and you dont have to acccept EVERYTHING someone throws at you because in todays industry MOST of the time it is just FOR RATINGS. Which is why Aretha didnt accept this.. I dont blame her!!! When is the last time they properly tributed this legendary woman?

Applauds to Aretha

P.S. this is a lovely pic of her

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