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Thread started 05/14/11 12:07pm

gunner82

Robin Thicke Vs. Dwele

Both these guys are pretty good! They both also write, & produce their own music too [for the most part]. Which do you prefer vocally of the two & If you had to pick either to write you a song, which would you choose? [I guess this a 2-part question biggrin ]

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Reply #1 posted 05/14/11 12:46pm

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I don't think Robin Thicke is all that good or talented. He is taking over the blue eyed soul spot until Punk ass Bitch, aka Justin Timberlake, reclaims his throne.

As far as Dwele, all his shit sounds kinda the same. Not as bad as Musiq, though. Truth be told, Dwele reminds me more of Raheem DeVaughn than anything

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Reply #2 posted 05/14/11 1:08pm

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Robin on looks alone lol

Oh, and I dig his music too.

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Reply #3 posted 05/14/11 8:48pm

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Robin 4 sure! He has the "Magic" touch.

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Reply #4 posted 05/14/11 11:36pm

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Robin Thicke, only because he is more versatile with songwriting and styles. Even though he's better on record than he is on stage, he's superior to his counterparts such as the overhyped and played out Justin Fakerlake. Robin's latest album, Sex Therapy was a complete snoozer though.

I fell off the bandwagon with Dwele after his first album, Subject. I can say that after that album, the only thing that impressed me about him was his collaborations, notably with artists such as Kanye West and Common.

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Reply #5 posted 05/15/11 12:04am

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Easy; neither lol

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Reply #6 posted 05/15/11 3:05am

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SEANMAN said:

Robin on looks alone lol

Oh, and I dig his music too.

Ooh wee. biggrin

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Reply #7 posted 05/16/11 1:45pm

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Dwele hands down. Not a fan of Robin's recent music.

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Reply #8 posted 05/16/11 3:58pm

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...

with Dwele, I think his unreleased music as well and collaborations are more interesting than his official albums:

Dwele w/ Boney James - Wake the Baby

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[Edited 5/16/11 16:07pm]

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Reply #9 posted 05/16/11 4:03pm

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Harlepolis said:

Easy; neither lol

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Reply #10 posted 05/16/11 4:15pm

DrHeat

Its supposed to be (google it)

Eric Roberson vs Dwele

Robin Thicke vs Jon B

These two can't be compared one's a neo-soul/jazz/soul artist and the other is an RNB/pop artist

[Edited 5/16/11 16:16pm]

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Reply #11 posted 05/16/11 8:36pm

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Both have been hit or miss. A draw imo.

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Reply #12 posted 05/17/11 12:50am

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So-called "versatility" is overrated, especially around here. Being able to do a disco song doesn't mean you should do it. Sometimes being really good at one genre is much better than being okay in several.
Robin Thicke does pop and pop/R&B, which is completely different from what Dwelé does. I have yet to hear Robin write anything lyrically significant other than platitude-filled "sweet-nothings" like "Lost Without You", a pure ego stroke for women as he declares his beta male servitude status. While Robin is talented, he is very much a pop entertainer. Dwele is more of an artist's artist. I could never imagine Robin coming up with something like "I'm Cheating". Its much too layered for Robin. Dwele tends to overdo it with the mid-tempo ballads but he stays true to what he does. Robin sticks to slick production and even though he may delve just a little into other genres (so does Dwele but for some reason when black artists add elements of jazz, blues and gospel into R&B, they get overlooked and treated as the same genre EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE NOT), Robin sticks to the pop formula like glue. Its not within his scope to do a song like "My People", which is a jazzy social commentary. While Dwelé is a stylist, he's focused and plays his musical position well. Robin is talented but the material he does teeters between mediocre and throwaway. He was on the right track with "When I Get You Alone" and hasn't been able to quite get a grip since.

And let's not eve compare Robin with Jon B. Jon kicks his ass several times over.

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phunkdaddy said:

Both have been hit or miss. A draw imo.

Agreed. nod

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Reply #14 posted 05/17/11 4:47am

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BlaqueKnight said:

So-called "versatility" is overrated, especially around here. Being able to do a disco song doesn't mean you should do it. Sometimes being really good at one genre is much better than being okay in several.
Robin Thicke does pop and pop/R&B, which is completely different from what Dwelé does. I have yet to hear Robin write anything lyrically significant other than platitude-filled "sweet-nothings" like "Lost Without You", a pure ego stroke for women as he declares his beta male servitude status. While Robin is talented, he is very much a pop entertainer. Dwele is more of an artist's artist. I could never imagine Robin coming up with something like "I'm Cheating". Its much too layered for Robin. Dwele tends to overdo it with the mid-tempo ballads but he stays true to what he does. Robin sticks to slick production and even though he may delve just a little into other genres (so does Dwele but for some reason when black artists add elements of jazz, blues and gospel into R&B, they get overlooked and treated as the same genre EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE NOT), Robin sticks to the pop formula like glue. Its not within his scope to do a song like "My People", which is a jazzy social commentary. While Dwelé is a stylist, he's focused and plays his musical position well. Robin is talented but the material he does teeters between mediocre and throwaway. He was on the right track with "When I Get You Alone" and hasn't been able to quite get a grip since.

And let's not eve compare Robin with Jon B. Jon kicks his ass several times over.

Well then you should hear this

2 The Sky Lyrics

Its amazing the way the darkness falls
And the truth out there is cold
And nothing to keep you warm
Jealousy and lies within me
I got a feeling the sun wont shine today
And I gotta to know right now
Will I be rich, have everything I want
I stop myself and look to the sky

Oh I got to give myself up to the sky
The only truth is in the sky
Nobody else can tell cause Im stuck in a spell
Of greed and anger and hate
Oh I tried I tried I tried to rise above it
But it comes right back
Creeps up on me and it hits me
Double time

This can't be my fate
Its never too late
I wake up holding on to this pain
And there's nothing else I can do
But 2 give myself up to the sky

When u ask yourself
Hey why me and why not me?
When you're down on your knees
Look 2 the sky
Just look 2 the sky
You don't need no faster car
Or no bigger house
All u really need is friends and love
Hey come on home
Just throw up your hands
Throw up your heart
All u really need is love
Im comin home
So come on home
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Reply #15 posted 05/17/11 5:18am

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I agree with those who say these two have nothing in common for comparison.

With that said, I enjoy Dwele's vibe and like a lot of what was on Some Kinda. Its good music for cookin dinner...

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Reply #16 posted 05/17/11 10:53am

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SEANMAN said:

Well then you should hear this

2 The Sky Lyrics

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That's a pretty decent song. I'd never heard it. Its still just a bit shallow but at least its introspective. I still wouldn't put him in Dwelé's class as far as writing goes but it adds a bit of dimension to him.

Thanks.

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Reply #17 posted 05/17/11 11:10am

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This is one song that perfectly displays Thicke's verstatility in the songwriting department...

No one can tell me that this isn't one of his best songs...music This edges out anything Dwele has done by far.

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Reply #18 posted 05/17/11 11:11am

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Dwele by a mile buy I dig a lot of Robin's work on record. Robin's live performance is BORING as they come though.

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Reply #19 posted 05/17/11 11:15am

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Graycap23 said:

Dwele by a mile buy I dig a lot of Robin's work on record. Robin's live performance is BORING as they come though.

That's one thing I gotta nitpick as well when it comes to Thicke. That guy has zero stage presence and his vocals aren't that strong on stage either. I remember seeing him during an Essence performance and I couldn't make out what he was saying or singing. "Lost Without U" sounds horrible in concert. Guy needs to improve his shit. But it doesn't matter because he won't be getting any more of my money because his latest stuff is just bullcrap and live performances have gotten worse.

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Reply #20 posted 05/17/11 11:41am

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silverchild said:

This is one song that perfectly displays Thicke's verstatility in the songwriting department...

No one can tell me that this isn't one of his best songs...music This edges out anything Dwele has done by far.

Gotta disagree. Most "blue-eyed soul" artists have a song like this. Its nothing special. Its another "I wish the world was the way I want it" song. Still kinda shallow. See, this is my problem with most pop R&B artists. They write these wishy-dreamy songs while a lot of real R&B artists take real life situations and write about them. I have more respect for that type of writing than I do that daydream shit. Fuck daydreaming about how you want things to be. What are you gonna do to make them how you want them. Write THAT song! That's where I think culture comes into play.

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BlaqueKnight said:

silverchild said:

This is one song that perfectly displays Thicke's verstatility in the songwriting department...

No one can tell me that this isn't one of his best songs...music This edges out anything Dwele has done by far.

Gotta disagree. Most "blue-eyed soul" artists have a song like this. Its nothing special. Its another "I wish the world was the way I want it" song. Still kinda shallow. See, this is my problem with most pop R&B artists. They write these wishy-dreamy songs while a lot of real R&B artists take real life situations and write about them. I have more respect for that type of writing than I do that daydream shit. Fuck daydreaming about how you want things to be. What are you gonna do to make them how you want them. Write THAT song! That's where I think culture comes into play.

Hmm...interesting! But are you implying that R&B is limited to just real life situations? I don't look at R&B or to a larger extent, black music as one thing, where artists have to write about their lives. Sometimes it is about hopes, utopias and dreams. You would be surprised at how many R&B artists have written songs as "Dreamworld". And speaking of that song by Dwele you posted, he wasn't doing much but talking about how things are. I heard nothing about what he was going to do in order to change things. confused

Well maybe these songs could change your perception...maybe not! But Robin's songwriting is just a little superior to me. I'm sorry! But they are two different artists with two different agendas musically. One is more pop influenced and the other is clearly more R&B.

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Reply #22 posted 05/17/11 12:05pm

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We just have to agree to disagree. I'm not feelin' Robin that much as a writer and to tell you the truth BOTH of them have way too many ballads for my taste. I like Dwele but he needs more songs like "Find A Way" and "I Wanna" just like Robin needs more "When I Get You Alone" and less "Lost Without You".

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Reply #23 posted 05/17/11 12:09pm

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BlaqueKnight said:

We just have to agree to disagree. I'm not feelin' Robin that much as a writer and to tell you the truth BOTH of them have way too many ballads for my taste. I like Dwele but he needs more songs like "Find A Way" and "I Wanna" just like Robin needs more "When I Get You Alone" and less "Lost Without You".

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nod That's what I've been trying to say in a nutshell. Both are just not impressive as they used to be. They've become way watered down and contemporary for my taste.

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