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Aretha's new album charts at #54

Even with its major glitch and crediting long deceased people as producer - ARETHA: A WOMAN FALLING OUT OF LOVE on Aretha's Records has charted.

The glitch on "A Summer's Place" is pure tacky. How could one not hear that on playbacks.

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Reply #1 posted 05/12/11 7:31pm

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Even with its major glitch and crediting long deceased people as producer - ARETHA: A WOMAN FALLING OUT OF LOVE on Aretha's Records has charted.

The glitch on "A Summer's Place" is pure tacky. How could one not hear that on playbacks.

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Reply #2 posted 05/12/11 8:14pm

Timmy84

Cool.

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Reply #3 posted 05/12/11 8:43pm

trueiopian

Flop.

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Reply #4 posted 05/12/11 8:45pm

Timmy84

Well she's almost 70 plus it was self-released even if it was Wal-Mart lol

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Reply #5 posted 05/12/11 9:31pm

trueiopian

And? lol

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Reply #6 posted 05/12/11 9:31pm

Timmy84

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And? lol

Just saying. lol

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Reply #7 posted 05/12/11 11:18pm

Identity

The bargain-basement packaging and the aforementioned defect took away my excitement for the CD. I haven't played it since the day I bought it. confused

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Reply #8 posted 05/13/11 6:10am

SoulAlive

Didn't Clive Davis recently say that he wants to work with Aretha again? I wouldn't be surprised if Aretha winds up at Arista again,especially after this "independent" release didn't do very well.

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Reply #9 posted 05/13/11 8:09am

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Honestly, I'm very suprised that it charted since it was only available at Walmart. That's very impressive.

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Reply #10 posted 05/13/11 8:30am

Identity

Moving less than 11K copies of a Walmart exclusive in the first week is not impressive when compared to singers who've done 1000 times better under the same arrangements with the retailer.

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Reply #11 posted 05/13/11 8:35am

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kitbradley said:

Honestly, I'm very suprised that it charted since it was only available at Walmart. That's very impressive.

The Eagles last album Long Road Out Of Eden was only at Wal-Mart and it sold pretty well.

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Reply #12 posted 05/13/11 8:50am

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Moving less than 11K copies of a Walmart exclusive in the first week is not impressive when compared to singers who've done 1000 times better under the same arrangements with the retailer.

[Edited 5/13/11 8:30am]

Wow!! This is the first time I'm hearing of this CD... I shop at Wal-mart every week.

Last Aretha news I got was that she got sick and slimmed down, didn't know about any new CD in the works.

I guess I just haven't been paying enough attention.

I always seem to know when Gaga, Katy Perry, Britney and Rihanna come out with new releases whether I'm paying attention or not. I'll stop there....

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Reply #13 posted 05/13/11 8:52am

Identity

That's an understatement. The Eagles sold over 3M copies of Long Road Out of Eden via Walmart, according to Billboard.

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Reply #14 posted 05/13/11 9:01am

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^^In general, Aretha's albums have never really been big sellers.

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Reply #15 posted 05/13/11 9:08am

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^^In general, Aretha's albums have never really been big sellers.

So true. She sold well, but not in the millions like some of her other counterparts. Same could be said for James Brown.

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Reply #16 posted 05/13/11 9:25am

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^^In general, Aretha's albums have never really been big sellers.

Exactly. Her biggest-selling album only sold 2 million (Amazing Grace). Most of her best-sellers were either gold or platinum.

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Reply #17 posted 05/13/11 9:26am

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daPrettyman said:

MickyDolenz said:

^^In general, Aretha's albums have never really been big sellers.

So true. She sold well, but not in the millions like some of her other counterparts. Same could be said for James Brown.

James has been known to release 4 or 5 albums a year during the 1960's.

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Reply #18 posted 05/13/11 9:28am

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It's doesn't help that she's not putting forth a solid promotional effort. How are fans supposed to know the album is on the shelves at Wal-mart?

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Reply #19 posted 05/13/11 9:28am

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It's doesn't help that she's not putting forth a solid promotional effort. How are fans supposed to know the album is on the shelves at Wal-mart?

I think she was just ready to put it out and be done with it. It had been in production for almost seven years. Plus Aretha doesn't trust labels anymore and rather she just carry on her twilight years performing. That kinda seems to be the case.

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Reply #20 posted 05/13/11 10:33am

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I think one of the huge benefits of this Walmart thing could be the sales figures for the other Aretha product that should be - could be flying off of the Walmart shelves. Walmart has at least 21 Aretha Franklin "albums," that include Live at Filmore West and every possible greatest hits compiliation available. This could be some serious retirment money for Ms. Franklin.

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Reply #21 posted 05/13/11 11:05am

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I think one of the huge benefits of this Walmart thing could be the sales figures for the other Aretha product that should be - could be flying off of the Walmart shelves. Walmart has at least 21 Aretha Franklin "albums," that include Live at Filmore West and every possible greatest hits compiliation available. This could be some serious retirment money for Ms. Franklin.

She still gets huge royalty cuts for writing "Think", "Call Me", "Daydreaming", "Rocksteady" and the sort. lol

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Reply #22 posted 05/13/11 11:09am

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allsmutaside said:

I think one of the huge benefits of this Walmart thing could be the sales figures for the other Aretha product that should be - could be flying off of the Walmart shelves. Walmart has at least 21 Aretha Franklin "albums," that include Live at Filmore West and every possible greatest hits compiliation available. This could be some serious retirment money for Ms. Franklin.

That is, if they stock her albums. Wal-Mart usually only carry whatever is in the top 20, and maybe greatest hits albums of older acts, and a few Spanish CD's.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #23 posted 05/13/11 11:10am

Timmy84

MickyDolenz said:

allsmutaside said:

I think one of the huge benefits of this Walmart thing could be the sales figures for the other Aretha product that should be - could be flying off of the Walmart shelves. Walmart has at least 21 Aretha Franklin "albums," that include Live at Filmore West and every possible greatest hits compiliation available. This could be some serious retirment money for Ms. Franklin.

That is, if they stock her albums. Wal-Mart usually only carry whatever is in the top 20, and maybe greatest hits albums of older acts, and a few Spanish CD's.

Ain't that the truth?

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Reply #24 posted 05/13/11 4:54pm

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It's doesn't help that she's not putting forth a solid promotional effort. How are fans supposed to know the album is on the shelves at Wal-mart?

I heard earlier this week that Walmart pulled the CD out of the store because they had been getting so many complaints about the defect (skipping). And sure enough I went there today and could not find the CD.

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Reply #25 posted 05/13/11 5:29pm

Identity

Oh, that's gonna hurt whatever little momentum the album has. However, it's unconscionable that Aretha's camp didn't discover the defect before Walmart stocked the CDs.

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Reply #26 posted 05/13/11 5:55pm

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FLOP.

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Reply #27 posted 05/13/11 6:45pm

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I heard about the skipping issue (which is crazy!) but did not know abotu the long dead producer being credited. Can't look it up...the album isn't listed on Wikipedia or Allmusic....so if Aretha releases an album and nobody notices it....was it ever released?

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Reply #28 posted 05/13/11 7:05pm

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Even with its major glitch and crediting long deceased people as producer - ARETHA: A WOMAN FALLING OUT OF LOVE on Aretha's Records has charted.

The glitch on "A Summer's Place" is pure tacky. How could one not hear that on playbacks.

I bought it, but had to take it back to Walmart twice. I knew when I heard that glitch in track 5, it was a manufacturing error that was gonna be on all of them. I told them just give me my money back- I'll wait until they fix it.

I was wondering how they didn't hear that too.

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Reply #29 posted 05/13/11 9:32pm

Timmy84

VinnyM27 said:

I heard about the skipping issue (which is crazy!) but did not know abotu the long dead producer being credited. Can't look it up...the album isn't listed on Wikipedia or Allmusic....so if Aretha releases an album and nobody notices it....was it ever released?

Yeah Marty Paich is credited for the "production" of "The Way We Were" I believe...

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