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Reply #60 posted 05/09/11 6:52pm

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Interesting seeing that she just appeared with Prince in LA last week!

Good luck to her....

TMZ is reporting that Prince has banned her from the rest of his shows here in LA. eye think its true because now she is suddenly in rehab. Although eye think its a requirement to be in the "Waiting To exhale" sequel... I hate when people blame Bobby for her drug use. When it is well known behind the scenes that Whitney was no saint. giggle

By the way good publicity for Prince mega hit tour dates here in LA.....

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eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #61 posted 05/09/11 6:58pm

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Timmy84 said:

HotGritz said:

Wasn't Whitney raised in a middle class neighborhood in West Orange, NJ ? She was born in the projects but not raised in the projects. Family moved after the Newark riots. Plus she spent a lot of time in the church so as to stay out of trouble.

Yeah but Whitney still visited relatives in Newark so she wasn't Miss Goody Two Shoes. Plus she used to physically fight with both of her brothers, Gary and Michael, and often hung around them when she wasn't at school. They would all visit relatives in Newark. I imagine she tried drugs and alcohol in her late teens though, that would be around the time she started modeling and singing background with her mother. Plus I think it was EAST Orange, not West Orange...

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Oh yes she was a goodie two shoes. The only reason she fought with them was because they made fun of her for being a goodie two shoes. See, when Shitney was growing up during the 1970s, it was the roller disco era and like most other kids their age, her brothers were heavily into it. Shitney was heavy into skating also but it sure as hell wasn't to disco like the other kids her age and her brothers made fun of her because of what her favorite skating anthem was and she couldn't stand them making fun of her so she fought them.

This isn't just a youtube video of some audio, click the video and see some actual private home video footage taken of Shitney skating to her favorite skating anthem at the time....

She was the most precious little princess. Absolutely presssssious.

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Reply #62 posted 05/09/11 7:13pm

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

2020 said:

Interesting seeing that she just appeared with Prince in LA last week!

Good luck to her....

TMZ is reporting that Prince has banned her from the rest of his shows here in LA. eye think its true because now she is suddenly in rehab. Although eye think its a requirement to be in the "Waiting To exhale" sequel... I hate when people blame Bobby for her drug use. When it is well known behind the scenes that Whitney was no saint. There are also things that I know & will not discuss here about her that will shock a lot of people. Well maybe not all.. But most giggle

By the way good publicity for Prince mega hit tour dates here in LA.....

She was performing or banned from attending?

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Reply #63 posted 05/09/11 7:14pm

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Yeah, I wish Ms. Houston the best too. From what I've seen from afar staying sober isn't an easy thing to do at all. I hope this time around she understands the Cognac, has to go too.

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Reply #64 posted 05/09/11 7:44pm

KCOOLMUZIQ

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

TMZ is reporting that Prince has banned her from the rest of his shows here in LA. eye think its true because now she is suddenly in rehab. Although eye think its a requirement to be in the "Waiting To exhale" sequel... I hate when people blame Bobby for her drug use. When it is well known behind the scenes that Whitney was no saint.

By the way good publicity for Prince mega hit tour dates here in LA.....

She was performing or banned from attending?

Banned from attending..According 2 TMZ.

[Edited 5/10/11 7:09am]

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #65 posted 05/09/11 7:57pm

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I'm sure many people never thought Whitney was some holy Mary type but most probably didn't think she was some gutterbut hoodrat either. To this day, I believe Bobby took a decent woman and brought out the worst in her. Crack and freebasing were not in her future else she would have gone that route wayyyy before Bobby came along as she achieved major success prior to becoming involved with him. Ole dude was smoking and drinking it up before and after Whitney and the only thing that stopped him was going to jail and public embarassment plus the loss of his money in the divorce.

Bobby may not have corrupted Whitney but he definitely encouraged her to be less than her best.

Oh please! rolleyes Having a record exec like Clive Davis to control your whole music career AND custom made chocolate cover valley girl persona is equally enough to inspired Whitney to secretly take some party drugs under her own free well.

(Read between the lines^ and you know what I'm saying!) lurking

You can NOT blame Bobby Brown on exactly everything. The only party drug Bobby ever mess with was weed . All of that expensive cocaine supplies were on Whitney, NOT Bobby. neutral

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Reply #66 posted 05/09/11 7:59pm

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(1) There's no such thing as an EX-addict. Once an addict, always an addict.

(2) Only Whitney is responsible for her own sobriety.

(3) falloff at Prince banning Whitney from attending any more of his shows lol

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Reply #67 posted 05/09/11 8:11pm

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purplethunder3121 said:

(3) falloff at Prince banning Whitney from attending any more of his shows lol

That part made me so happy I could just cum. lol

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Reply #68 posted 05/09/11 8:59pm

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(1) There's no such thing as an EX-addict. Once an addict, always an addict.

Treu, it's a language thing....i tried to say that the article says nothing about current drug use. I wouldn't be suprised if she did....oh well, what do i know....

All the jokes aside.....at the end there's nothing funny about her story and i hope she will win the battle.

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Reply #69 posted 05/10/11 12:15am

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"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

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Reply #70 posted 05/10/11 12:32am

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"Chaka Mad" so that made Prince ban her.

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Reply #71 posted 05/10/11 12:45am

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Chaka talks to Prince after the perfomance:

"I'm Chaka Mad, Prince....if you let that bitch humiliate me on stage again i'm outta here...i don't need this with This Crazy Life of Mine.

Betcha I go or I'll make that Spoon do a Journey to the Center of Your Heart at full speed.

I'll Never B another Fool by coming here, this is not a Democrazy.

As to Whitney, Reconsider (You Better), I don't need The Drama, its getting in my Hair, I'm about to Pop My Clutch.

Prince, I Remember U saying Don't Talk to Strangers so why did you ask Whitney to Come 2 My House?"

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Reply #72 posted 05/10/11 2:46am

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

I wish peeps would leave her alone. She is still alive and trying to live her life. She is not hurting anybody.

yeah, this place can be depressing

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Reply #73 posted 05/10/11 5:33am

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

I wish peeps would leave her alone. She is still alive and trying to live her life. She is not hurting anybody.

Right....

I mean I think we all can honestly say that we hate what has happened to Whitney but this is old news it is not changing anything. Also, it does not make her a bad human being or TAKES away from what she has accomplished. Regardless her voice is going to go down as one of the best because it was.. I think people should leave her alone as well.. She just trying to get her life together.. just like people do every day cut her break...

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Reply #74 posted 05/10/11 2:55pm

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TonyVanDam said:

HotGritz said:

I'm sure many people never thought Whitney was some holy Mary type but most probably didn't think she was some gutterbut hoodrat either. To this day, I believe Bobby took a decent woman and brought out the worst in her. Crack and freebasing were not in her future else she would have gone that route wayyyy before Bobby came along as she achieved major success prior to becoming involved with him. Ole dude was smoking and drinking it up before and after Whitney and the only thing that stopped him was going to jail and public embarassment plus the loss of his money in the divorce.

Bobby may not have corrupted Whitney but he definitely encouraged her to be less than her best.

Oh please! rolleyes Having a record exec like Clive Davis to control your whole music career AND custom made chocolate cover valley girl persona is equally enough to inspired Whitney to secretly take some party drugs under her own free well.

(Read between the lines^ and you know what I'm saying!) lurking

You can NOT blame Bobby Brown on exactly everything. The only party drug Bobby ever mess with was weed . All of that expensive cocaine supplies were on Whitney, NOT Bobby. neutral

Nobody is blaming Bobby on exactly everything, at least I'm not. I'm saying he was responsible for a lot of her downfall. Had she not got involved with him, she would be a functioning drug using mega star like so many others. You think Clive would have let her sink that low? Nah....dude wouldn't let his cash cow be led to slaughter...per se. wink

Oh and BOOOO....Bobby was using coke before Whitney. His bio where he accuses her of introducing him to drugs is utter bullshit.

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Reply #75 posted 05/10/11 3:05pm

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^ Now see this is where I have to RESPECTFULLY disagree. There was always rumors that Whitney was like the way she was when she was splitting time between East Orange and Newark with relatives. Whitney knows about the streets. I don't think she adapted this attitude when she met and fell for Bobby. I honestly don't. Plus she was doing drugs and alcohol as recreationally as Mary J. Blige did when she grew up in Yonkers.

True.

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Reply #76 posted 05/10/11 3:06pm

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HotGritz said:

TonyVanDam said:

Oh please! rolleyes Having a record exec like Clive Davis to control your whole music career AND custom made chocolate cover valley girl persona is equally enough to inspired Whitney to secretly take some party drugs under her own free well.

(Read between the lines^ and you know what I'm saying!) lurking

You can NOT blame Bobby Brown on exactly everything. The only party drug Bobby ever mess with was weed . All of that expensive cocaine supplies were on Whitney, NOT Bobby. neutral

Nobody is blaming Bobby on exactly everything, at least I'm not. I'm saying he was responsible for a lot of her downfall. Had she not got involved with him, she would be a functioning drug using mega star like so many others. You think Clive would have let her sink that low? Nah....dude wouldn't let his cash cow be led to slaughter...per se. wink

Oh and BOOOO....Bobby was using coke before Whitney. His bio where he accuses her of introducing him to drugs is utter bullshit.

I take Bobby's word over Whitney's.

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Reply #77 posted 05/10/11 3:23pm

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Why is entering rehab so frowned upon these days? Isn't this supposed to be commended and seen as a step in the right direction? I wish Whitney (AND Bobby) the best.

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Reply #78 posted 05/10/11 3:28pm

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Timmy84 said:

HotGritz said:

Nobody is blaming Bobby on exactly everything, at least I'm not. I'm saying he was responsible for a lot of her downfall. Had she not got involved with him, she would be a functioning drug using mega star like so many others. You think Clive would have let her sink that low? Nah....dude wouldn't let his cash cow be led to slaughter...per se. wink

Oh and BOOOO....Bobby was using coke before Whitney. His bio where he accuses her of introducing him to drugs is utter bullshit.

I take Bobby's word over Whitney's.

I believe the later interviews which state that they were BOTH doing drugs before they met each other. At least that's what Bobby states and other folks who knew them in the Behind The Music documentary. All this finger pointing is sheer bullshit. Anyone who has had a family member addicted to drugs knows that NO ONE is responsible for an addict's sobriety--except for the addict. Family members can be the over-used words--"enablers" or "co-dependents"--but it is true that no one can force someone to take drugs. It is an individual decision. An addict has to realize that he/she has no CONTROL over their drug addiction and must decide to take responsibility for it and seek the life-time support they need to manage their addiction. At this point, it seems like Bobby is doing much more to work on his sobriety than Whitney. I don't buy the bullshit that either one "introduced" and was "responsible" for getting each other addicted. It was an individual choice supported by the "co-dependent" drug addict. My twocents

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Reply #79 posted 05/10/11 3:45pm

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purplethunder3121 said:

Timmy84 said:

I take Bobby's word over Whitney's.

I believe the later interviews which state that they were BOTH doing drugs before they met each other. At least that's what Bobby states and other folks who knew them in the Behind The Music documentary. All this finger pointing is sheer bullshit. Anyone who has had a family member addicted to drugs knows that NO ONE is responsible for an addict's sobriety--except for the addict. Family members can be the over-used words--"enablers" or "co-dependents"--but it is true that no one can force someone to take drugs. It is an individual decision. An addict has to realize that he/she has no CONTROL over their drug addiction and must decide to take responsibility for it and seek the life-time support they need to manage their addiction. At this point, it seems like Bobby is doing much more to work on his sobriety than Whitney. I don't buy the bullshit that either one "introduced" and was "responsible" for getting each other addicted. It was an individual choice supported by the "co-dependent" drug addict. My twocents

That's what I really meant actually. Not necessarily what he wrote in his book. Bobby did admit he was getting into the drug scene before meeting Whitney.

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Reply #80 posted 05/10/11 3:46pm

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Why is entering rehab so frowned upon these days? Isn't this supposed to be commended and seen as a step in the right direction? I wish Whitney (AND Bobby) the best.

Relapses and usually some artists who get into it think a stint in rehab can straighten them out. I wish her well (as well as Bobby and Krissy).

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Reply #81 posted 05/10/11 3:47pm

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Timmy84 said:

I take Bobby's word over Whitney's.

I believe the later interviews which state that they were BOTH doing drugs before they met each other. At least that's what Bobby states and other folks who knew them in the Behind The Music documentary. All this finger pointing is sheer bullshit. Anyone who has had a family member addicted to drugs knows that NO ONE is responsible for an addict's sobriety--except for the addict. Family members can be the over-used words--"enablers" or "co-dependents"--but it is true that no one can force someone to take drugs. It is an individual decision. An addict has to realize that he/she has no CONTROL over their drug addiction and must decide to take responsibility for it and seek the life-time support they need to manage their addiction. At this point, it seems like Bobby is doing much more to work on his sobriety than Whitney. I don't buy the bullshit that either one "introduced" and was "responsible" for getting each other addicted. It was an individual choice supported by the "co-dependent" drug addict. My twocents

Bottom line! They enabled each other. I'm just of the opinion that Bobby's habits took a turn for the worse and Whitney soon followed- not the other way around. Let's not forget that Whitney did say Bobby spat on her (he didn't deny it) and was what we call "emotionally abusive" (he didn't deny that either) and lets also not forget that Bobby denied his daughter Bobbi Kristina used drugs even though there was photographic and video evidence to the contrary.

In his attempt to work on his sobriety, he has become a tad delusional about his drug partnership with his ex-wife and about current drug abuse issues his daughter may be dealing with.

At the end of the day....they're both sad individuals who let drugs nearly destroy their talents and their physical/mental well being.

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Reply #82 posted 05/10/11 3:48pm

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^ It got worse at the same time. Whitney was just able to keep it at home while she remained professional for the most part. Bobby, however, proved to be more reckless.

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Reply #83 posted 05/10/11 3:49pm

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Anyway we know they all got demons they need to straighten out. Bobby has acknowledged he's acted an asshole. Least he didn't deny Whitney's claims.

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Reply #84 posted 05/10/11 4:06pm

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HotGritz said:

purplethunder3121 said:

I believe the later interviews which state that they were BOTH doing drugs before they met each other. At least that's what Bobby states and other folks who knew them in the Behind The Music documentary. All this finger pointing is sheer bullshit. Anyone who has had a family member addicted to drugs knows that NO ONE is responsible for an addict's sobriety--except for the addict. Family members can be the over-used words--"enablers" or "co-dependents"--but it is true that no one can force someone to take drugs. It is an individual decision. An addict has to realize that he/she has no CONTROL over their drug addiction and must decide to take responsibility for it and seek the life-time support they need to manage their addiction. At this point, it seems like Bobby is doing much more to work on his sobriety than Whitney. I don't buy the bullshit that either one "introduced" and was "responsible" for getting each other addicted. It was an individual choice supported by the "co-dependent" drug addict. My twocents

Bottom line! They enabled each other. I'm just of the opinion that Bobby's habits took a turn for the worse and Whitney soon followed- not the other way around. Let's not forget that Whitney did say Bobby spat on her (he didn't deny it) and was what we call "emotionally abusive" (he didn't deny that either) and lets also not forget that Bobby denied his daughter Bobbi Kristina used drugs even though there was photographic and video evidence to the contrary.

In his attempt to work on his sobriety, he has become a tad delusional about his drug partnership with his ex-wife and about current drug abuse issues his daughter may be dealing with.

At the end of the day....they're both sad individuals who let drugs nearly destroy their talents and their physical/mental well being.

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I checked out the Behind The Music documentary again last night as well as some other interviews. Bobby admitted that there was a five year period that he can't even remember. Sad. But the fact is--as someone who has had the sad experience of dealing with family members who became addicted--that people do and say things that are the opposite of their true nature when on drugs. If Bobby has been sober for the past six years as he claims, he may be in denial about his daughter's addiction. No one wants to believe that their child is an addict--especially if it is a parent that has had a drug problem and must deal with the guilt of modeling that behavior for their child. In saying this, I wish Bobby, Whitney, and Bobbi the best in dealing with this horrible problem that chews families up and spits them out. Fact. confused

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Reply #85 posted 05/10/11 4:09pm

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purplethunder3121 said:

HotGritz said:

Bottom line! They enabled each other. I'm just of the opinion that Bobby's habits took a turn for the worse and Whitney soon followed- not the other way around. Let's not forget that Whitney did say Bobby spat on her (he didn't deny it) and was what we call "emotionally abusive" (he didn't deny that either) and lets also not forget that Bobby denied his daughter Bobbi Kristina used drugs even though there was photographic and video evidence to the contrary.

In his attempt to work on his sobriety, he has become a tad delusional about his drug partnership with his ex-wife and about current drug abuse issues his daughter may be dealing with.

At the end of the day....they're both sad individuals who let drugs nearly destroy their talents and their physical/mental well being.

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I checked out the Behind The Music documentary again last night as well as some other interviews. Bobby admitted that there was a five year period that he can't even remember. Sad. But the fact is--as someone who has had the sad experience of dealing with family members who became addicted--that people do and say things that are the opposite of their true nature when on drugs. If Bobby has been sober for the past six years as he claims, he may be in denial about his daughter's addiction. No one wants to believe that their child is an addict--especially if it is a parent that has had a drug problem and must deal with the guilt of modeling that behavior for their child. In saying this, I wish Bobby, Whitney, and Bobbi the best in dealing with this horrible problem that chews families up and spits them out. Fact. confused

Yeah I think he was in denial about his daughter doing that stuff... no parent don't wanna imagine a kid going through the same thing they were going on. Can you imagine Marvin Gaye being alive and sober just to hear his daughter and eldest son were getting high?

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Reply #86 posted 05/10/11 4:13pm

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^ Seeing as how his kids struggled with drugs, I'm a wee bit glad he is not alive to witness it. The stress and heartbreak alone may have killed him or at least depressed him greatly. I think of poor Kirk Douglass and what he went through with his sons and their addiction. I'm amazed he's still alive after all he's been through.

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Reply #87 posted 05/10/11 4:15pm

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^ Seeing as how his kids struggled with drugs, I'm a wee bit glad he is not alive to witness it. The stress and heartbreak alone may have killed him or at least depressed him greatly. I think of poor Kirk Douglass and what he went through with his sons and their addiction. I'm amazed he's still alive after all he's been through.

Word. Same with Iggy Pop and his son. Thankfully his son's sober but that was a hard pill to swallow when he discovered his son was getting high on the same thing he used to get high off (heroin). That shook him up.

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HotGritz said:

I'm sure many people never thought Whitney was some holy Mary type but most probably didn't think she was some gutterbut hoodrat either. To this day, I believe Bobby took a decent woman and brought out the worst in her. Crack and freebasing were not in her future else she would have gone that route wayyyy before Bobby came along as she achieved major success prior to becoming involved with him. Ole dude was smoking and drinking it up before and after Whitney and the only thing that stopped him was going to jail and public embarassment plus the loss of his money in the divorce.

Bobby may not have corrupted Whitney but he definitely encouraged her to be less than her best.

i really think it wasnt bobby's fault

everybody says "oh bobby turned whitney out"

but little do they know she was lowkey hoodrat from Newark before bobby even came into the seen

in there reality show bobby was better parent and kristina Bobby listened to bobby more than whitney.. it kinda seemed like she resented Whitney for some reason hmm

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Reply #89 posted 05/10/11 4:39pm

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HotGritz said:

I'm sure many people never thought Whitney was some holy Mary type but most probably didn't think she was some gutterbut hoodrat either. To this day, I believe Bobby took a decent woman and brought out the worst in her. Crack and freebasing were not in her future else she would have gone that route wayyyy before Bobby came along as she achieved major success prior to becoming involved with him. Ole dude was smoking and drinking it up before and after Whitney and the only thing that stopped him was going to jail and public embarassment plus the loss of his money in the divorce.

Bobby may not have corrupted Whitney but he definitely encouraged her to be less than her best.

i really think it wasnt bobby's fault

everybody says "oh bobby turned whitney out"

but little do they know she was lowkey hoodrat from Newark before bobby even came into the seen

in there reality show bobby was better parent and kristina Bobby listened to bobby more than whitney.. it kinda seemed like she resented Whitney for some reason hmm

So he turned his daughter out. lol

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