rialb said:

JoeTyler said:

The Strokes had a radical new sound, specially for an american band. Many people still think they are brits, lol

They probably deserve credit for kicking off the "garage rock" revival that was big in the early '00s but you will never convince me that they "had a radical new sound."

I still think that Is This It is completely different than ANY american rock album released in the 20th Century

JoeTyler said:

rialb said:

But none of those bands appeared in the very late '90s.

Nine Inch Nails debuted way back in 1989.

Korn debuted in 1994.

The Strokes didn't debut until 2001.

I would also argue that the Strokes didn't exactly have a "modern" sound.

The Strokes had a radical new sound, specially for an american band. Many people still think they are brits, lol

Nah, The Strokes' sound is this:

crossed with this(Last Nite prototype):

My first concert was G'n'R at Wembley Stadium '91 w/Skid Row as one of the support acts, unfortunatly, what I've since been told was a legendary performance just passed me by. Sebastian Bach looked a big fucker.

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Did anyone have the version of Slave to the Grind that excised "Get the Fuck Out" and replaced it with "Beggars Day?" Until about a year ago I didn't even know there was a "clean" version of the album. I have fond memories of feeling like I was getting away with something listening to "Get the Fuck Out," Guns 'n' Roses' "Get in the Ring" and, especially, Anthrax' "Startin' Up a Posse." It seems incredibly quaint and naive today but back in 1991 for an eleven year old it was a big deal to hear so much cursing in a song.

MrLee192 said:

Extreme fucked up by making Pornograffitti, one of the best Funk Metal cross over albums ever... and then following it up with really crappy albums....

Funny that you guys are mentioning Extreme... I just saw a concert of theirs on HDNet yesterday and was blown away at how good they still are... My God.. NUNO!!!! Insanely good guitarist---both his lead and rhythm skills and his overall stage prescence. Glad he's kept up his skills and his looks. Guess that's why he's with Rhi Rhi.

Pornograffitti is definately killer...but, I liked the first side of 3 Sides...Man, Cupid's Dead!!!

I liked Skid Row, but I have to admit that in the late 80's I was a Thrash Metal kid--- Metallica, Megadeth, Anthrax, Exodus, Slayer...etc But, Skid Row were one of those "pretty boy" bands that did catch my ear and didn't make me wanna throw a brick at the TV when one of their vids came on MTV.

I mainly liked thier ballads more than their rockers. Bach sounds lovely when he's not trying to sound aggressive and scratchy like AXL. But, he IS an awesome screamer!!

That whole Hair Metal vs Grunge thing... I dunno. I hated the poodle hair Sunset Strip bands at the time...but, hated what I thought were lazy, dumbed down 3 chord Grunge Rock too. My tastes were mixed up in traditional Metal like Priest and Maiden, newer bands like Dream Theater and Fates Warning and the Thrash and Death Metal bands I already mentioned... So, neither Hair Metal or Grunge did it for me. And hey, real Metal bands were always anti Hair Metal, Spandex and lipstick. I never understood why Grunge got all the credit for opposing that stuff.

Looking back at in now, I see some good in all that stuff. I can now tolerate Ratt, Poison, Nirvana and Pearl Jam way more than I could when I was 16.

Timmy84 said:

rialb said:

But none of those bands appeared in the very late '90s.

Nine Inch Nails debuted way back in 1989.

Korn debuted in 1994.

The Strokes didn't debut until 2001.

I would also argue that the Strokes didn't exactly have a "modern" sound.

I used to like Korn...dnw...

But Nine Inch Nails rocks and the Strokes has some good songs.

I went through a Korn phase in the mid to late 90's... Man, those first 2 CD's were something BEFORE that whole Nu-Metal sound (7 string guitars and Dual Rectifiers) became so bastardized.

Clown is still one of my all time favorite songs. My buddies and I would blast this song!! And Twist!!

They were kinda scary. Thug Metal---like they'd jump out of the stereo, F#$k you up and steal your coat.

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rialb said:

MrLee192 said:

Extreme fucked up by making Pornograffitti, one of the best Funk Metal cross over albums ever... and then following it up with really crappy albums....

III Sides to Every Story is my favourite Extreme album. However, I can completely understand why it wasn't as successful as their previous albums. In 1992 there wasn't a huge demand for long, complex songs in the vein of '70s Queen*. I also quite like Waiting for the Punchline even if sounds a little dirtier/sloppier than their previous albums. Heck, I even enjoyed Nuno's first solo album which was very "alternative" sounding. It wasn't until the Mourning Widows/Population 1/DramaGods that he kind of lost me.

* after I reread that I realised that "Bohemian Rhapsody" was a huge hit in 1991/1992 so I guess there was some demand for long, complex songs in the vein of '70s Queen.

i find i like half of 3 sides...when they do those weak acoustic tracks and weird piano synth ones... it loses me.

The first 5 tracks are great

gemari77 said:

That whole Hair Metal vs Grunge thing... I dunno. I hated the poodle hair Sunset Strip bands at the time...but, hated what I thought were lazy, dumbed down 3 chord Grunge Rock too. My tastes were mixed up in traditional Metal like Priest and Maiden, newer bands like Dream Theater and Fates Warning and the Thrash and Death Metal bands I already mentioned... So, neither Hair Metal or Grunge did it for me. And hey, real Metal bands were always anti Hair Metal, Spandex and lipstick. I never understood why Grunge got all the credit for opposing that stuff.

exactly

rialb said:

Did anyone have the version of Slave to the Grind that excised "Get the Fuck Out" and replaced it with "Beggars Day?" Until about a year ago I didn't even know there was a "clean" version of the album. I have fond memories of feeling like I was getting away with something listening to "Get the Fuck Out," Guns 'n' Roses' "Get in the Ring" and, especially, Anthrax' "Startin' Up a Posse." It seems incredibly quaint and naive today but back in 1991 for an eleven year old it was a big deal to hear so much cursing in a song.

Oh yeah! i love that replaced song lol , yes it was a big deal for me when i was younger & listening to Skid Row & Guns and even some metallica and hearing swearing