I still think she had a kid.

She's probably done a good job at keeping it under wraps. She's pretty good with keep her private life low profile.

suga10 said:

I still think she had a kid.

She's probably done a good job at keeping it under wraps. She's pretty good with keep her private life low profile.

@ Suga10 ,

I Agree especially given the fact that the Father James DeBarge in this case Refuses to Talk , I mean if Janet had A abortion as many are claiming then whats up? with James not wanting to talk & been all hushed hushed about it , & why? hasn't he told his Family to stop going to the media talking about Him & her having A child , & why? haven't Janet herself hasn't went after his Family & Brother upon False accusations if this is all A rumor after all Janet does have more money then Any of the DeBarge's she could File a sue for false accusations .

I've never Heard her going after the DeBarge's about this suppose rumor if it was Such A Rumor I would think Janet would had Went after Young DeBarge in 2005 after he admited to knowing about this Alleged Child & making up more lies all the way down to lying about his own Age he told radio host he was 26 When in fact hes a few years younger then Janet .

& In Mama D's Book She did mention that she Knows of Janet having 2 abortions during Her & James's Relationship , But admits shes heard that Both Pregnancies may not had been Terminated as shes heard & she mentions hearing rumors of One of Janets siblings raising the Child to even Hearing that Janet gave the child or Children up In Europe & the Baby or Kids were been raised Oversea's in Europe & admits she wouldn't doubt it If there was A baby out there That Janet gave up . she also admits that the Family don't know if Janet Had A Boy or A Gril Or 2 Boys Or 2 girl's They don't know if Janet Kept the kid or kids Or Aborted both Pregnancies in 1983 & 1985 But Mrs.DeBarge Admits to Hearing rumors that Janet Had 2 Two kids & gave both Children up .

So something has to be true Or Else The EX Brother & Mother In Law wouldn't be still going around talking about this Kid , & James himself wouldn't be so tight lipped its almost as if He got Paid to keep his Mouth shut by Someone .

I'm like I Believe She Aborted the Baby in 1983 given the fact she was still doing "Diifferent strokes" in 83" But I still think she Had the Baby in 1985 & thats why? she left "FAME" early in 1985 .

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[Edited 5/10/11 16:40pm]

jax85 said:

suga10 said:

I still think she had a kid.

She's probably done a good job at keeping it under wraps. She's pretty good with keep her private life low profile.

@ Suga10 ,

I Agree especially given the fact that the Father James DeBarge in this case Refuses to Talk , I mean if Janet had A abortion as many are claiming then whats up? with James not wanting to talk & been all hushed hushed about it , & why? hasn't he told his Family to stop going to the media talking about Him & her having A child , & why? haven't Janet herself hasn't went after his Family & Brother upon False accusations if this is all A rumor after all Janet does have more money then Any of the DeBarge's she could File a sue for false accusations .

I've never Heard her going after the DeBarge's about this suppose rumor if it was Such A Rumor I would think Janet would had Went after Young DeBarge in 2005 after he admited to knowing about this Alleged Child & making up more lies all the way down to lying about his own Age he told radio host he was 26 When in fact hes a few years younger then Janet .

& In Mama D's Book She did mention that she Knows of Janet having 2 abortions during Her & James's Relationship , But admits shes heard that Both Pregnancies may not had been Terminated as shes heard & she mentions hearing rumors of One of Janets siblings raising the Child to even Hearing that Janet gave the child or Children up In Europe & the Baby or Kids were been raised Oversea's in Europe & admits she wouldn't doubt it If there was A baby out there That Janet gave up . she also admits that the Family don't know if Janet Had A Boy or A Gril Or 2 Boys Or 2 girl's They don't know if Janet Kept the kid or kids Or Aborted both Pregnancies in 1983 & 1985 But Mrs.DeBarge Admits to Hearing rumors that Janet Had 2 Two kids & gave both Children up .

So something has to be true Or Else The EX Brother & Mother In Law wouldn't be still going around talking about this Kid , & James himself wouldn't be so tight lipped its almost as if He got Paid to keep his Mouth shut by Someone .

I'm like I Believe She Aborted the Baby in 1983 given the fact she was still doing "Diifferent strokes" in 83" But I still think she Had the Baby in 1985 & thats why? she left "FAME" early in 1985 .

[Edited 5/10/11 16:37pm]

[Edited 5/10/11 16:40pm]

If the media can track down Joe Jackson's secret love child, and spread it across the tabloids they sure would be able to track down Janet Jackson's secret child. especially after all these years. Sooner or later someone would go to the media with a picture and an article about this child. Janet has been too famous for too long to keep such a thing out of the media, no matter how private she is.

suga10 said:

I still think she had a kid.

She's probably done a good job at keeping it under wraps. She's pretty good with keep her private life low profile.

Dumb post.

whatsgoingon said:

jax85 said:

@ Suga10 ,

I Agree especially given the fact that the Father James DeBarge in this case Refuses to Talk , I mean if Janet had A abortion as many are claiming then whats up? with James not wanting to talk & been all hushed hushed about it , & why? hasn't he told his Family to stop going to the media talking about Him & her having A child , & why? haven't Janet herself hasn't went after his Family & Brother upon False accusations if this is all A rumor after all Janet does have more money then Any of the DeBarge's she could File a sue for false accusations .

I've never Heard her going after the DeBarge's about this suppose rumor if it was Such A Rumor I would think Janet would had Went after Young DeBarge in 2005 after he admited to knowing about this Alleged Child & making up more lies all the way down to lying about his own Age he told radio host he was 26 When in fact hes a few years younger then Janet .

& In Mama D's Book She did mention that she Knows of Janet having 2 abortions during Her & James's Relationship , But admits shes heard that Both Pregnancies may not had been Terminated as shes heard & she mentions hearing rumors of One of Janets siblings raising the Child to even Hearing that Janet gave the child or Children up In Europe & the Baby or Kids were been raised Oversea's in Europe & admits she wouldn't doubt it If there was A baby out there That Janet gave up . she also admits that the Family don't know if Janet Had A Boy or A Gril Or 2 Boys Or 2 girl's They don't know if Janet Kept the kid or kids Or Aborted both Pregnancies in 1983 & 1985 But Mrs.DeBarge Admits to Hearing rumors that Janet Had 2 Two kids & gave both Children up .

So something has to be true Or Else The EX Brother & Mother In Law wouldn't be still going around talking about this Kid , & James himself wouldn't be so tight lipped its almost as if He got Paid to keep his Mouth shut by Someone .

I'm like I Believe She Aborted the Baby in 1983 given the fact she was still doing "Diifferent strokes" in 83" But I still think she Had the Baby in 1985 & thats why? she left "FAME" early in 1985 .

[Edited 5/10/11 16:37pm]

[Edited 5/10/11 16:40pm]

If the media can track down Joe Jackson's secret love child, and spread it across the tabloids they sure would be able to track down Janet Jackson's secret child. especially after all these years. Sooner or later someone would go to the media with a picture and an article about this child. Janet has been too famous for too long to keep such a thing out of the media, no matter how private she is.

There are ways to Hide A Child & I've Heard many of The Options that A woman Can use In order to Hide her Indentity & Hide Her ever having A Baby & Some have been used As fare Back as in the 1960's & even Some in the 1980's .

Option #1 : A Woman can Have Another Woman to step in & Sign The Child's Birth Certificate & Birth Documents & Give the Child To that Woman to Raise this has been Done In the 60's & I even have A Friend Who's Mother Left her In A Hospital with A Friend & the Friend Signed The Birth Certificate & Toke the Baby Home & raised it & for years The Girl Never knew it Until Her Real Mother showed up & She was Finally told the Truth , & With this All the Baby's Birth Documents Are all In Another Womans Or Parents Names However Its not A Adoption , But Its A Form Of Giving A Child up But Birth Records Will only Show Whom evers Names That were writed on the Babys Birth Records This Is Easy To do & Hard for Anyone to Get any Information About the Birth Mother Or Birth Orgins Of the child Cause Its Just as If Whom Ever Signs The Babys Paperwork Is The Birth Mother Or Parent Theres No Adoption Paper Trail . & A woman on Dateline Or 20/20 Did this Exact thing with her Son in 1985 Had Another Woman To Sign All Documents & Gave her Son to that Woman claiming She was to Sick to sign Her own Son's Birth Papers , & The Hospital Allowed it & in most cases if not All casesThe Hospital Don't Check For anything So Any Woman Can give Birth & Have Another Woman Sign Paperwork & Give the CHild to Them .

Hell this is what Has been Told happen to me At Birth With my Aunt , People Believe My Aunt Gave me to My Dad & Mother & Allowed My Mother to Sign off on Birth Documents & Allowed Her Brother My Daddy & My Mom To step in & Raise me .. However I've never Checked this Story to see if it was True , However it can Be done.

Options #2 & #3 : Adoption & Abortion Both Would Still have Some Paper trail & With Janet Jackson been who she is Someone Can & Could still Go & pull up A Paper trail of her Having A Abortion Or Adopting A Baby Unless She used Another Name Other wise There Would be A Paper trail leading A Janet Damita Jo Jackson to A Abortion Or A Baby Adopted in 1985 .

Plus its been 25 or 26 Years ago Doctors & Nurses can Die & or Resign from Work Who to say If this didn't Happend Plus People Memories Aren't Good some people can Forget .

My thing Is I think Janet Did Option #1 With Using A Fake Phony Name & had the Baby & Had some Other Woman to step in & Sign The Birth Certificate & Childs Documents & gave the Baby away & Thats why? NO! One can Find Anything On A Janet Jackson Having A Baby in 85" Cause she Could had Used A Phony Fake Name to Conseal Her Identity & lets not Forget We all Have Twins & people who look like Us So Maybe the Hospital & people thought She was Whom ever She said She was During the time she had The Baby .

So Hell You can Hide A child If you Do it right , Its not Impossible to do .

There's no way this body ever gave birth to a baby. The end.

SEANMAN said:

There's no way this body ever gave birth to a baby. The end.

SEANMAN said:

There's no way this body ever gave birth to a baby. The end.

LOL . Its been 25 or 26 Years ago , Janet does Work Her ass off , Hell just Because she has Ripped Ab's & stuff Don't mean She Never Gave Birth To A DeBarge Big Head Baby .......LMAO

jax85 said:

SEANMAN said:

There's no way this body ever gave birth to a baby. The end.

LOL . Its been 25 or 26 Years ago , Janet does Work Her ass off , Hell just Because she has Ripped Ab's & stuff Don't mean She Never Gave Birth To A DeBarge Big Head Baby .......LMAO

She was too busy after she left "Fame" to have given birth to a baby and dealt with all the legal red tape of adoption, what with the whole annulment thing and the moving to Minneapolis to work on Control.

SEANMAN said:

jax85 said:

LOL . Its been 25 or 26 Years ago , Janet does Work Her ass off , Hell just Because she has Ripped Ab's & stuff Don't mean She Never Gave Birth To A DeBarge Big Head Baby .......LMAO

She was too busy after she left "Fame" to have given birth to a baby and dealt with all the legal red tape of adoption, what with the whole annulment thing and the moving to Minneapolis to work on Control.

& Yet Still James DeBarge won't Open his Mouth about rather they do Or don't Have A Baby , If theres No Baby Why? is James still Been secretive & Mouth Shut About the hole Rumor .

Janet her self Has Really never Dismissed This Rumor neither

So With 2 Main key People Been still Secretive & Not really Talking , Theres something to it , If She never Had A Baby Then I would Think James Would Come out & Say NO WE DO NOT HAVE A CHILD TOGETHER . he Still refuses to comment on This Subject , So I mean You may Say whatever But I'm Looking At James not Talking & Refuses to talk , Janet Has never really Made A Big fus About the Rumor only Announced All Allegations aren't True which anyone can Set up & say But She Never Went After Her Ex in Laws Upon Claiming False Accusations Or To keep them from Talking .

So I'm looking at These 2 Actions , & They Seem To me to Be Hiding Something Other Wise James Shouldn't Still Be Not wanting to Talk .

jax85 said:

SEANMAN said:

She was too busy after she left "Fame" to have given birth to a baby and dealt with all the legal red tape of adoption, what with the whole annulment thing and the moving to Minneapolis to work on Control.

& Yet Still James DeBarge won't Open his Mouth about rather they do Or don't Have A Baby , If theres No Baby Why? is James still Been secretive & Mouth Shut About the hole Rumor .

Janet her self Has Really never Dismissed This Rumor neither

So With 2 Main key People Been still Secretive & Not really Talking , Theres something to it , If She never Had A Baby Then I would Think James Would Come out & Say NO WE DO NOT HAVE A CHILD TOGETHER . he Still refuses to comment on This Subject , So I mean You may Say whatever But I'm Looking At James not Talking & Refuses to talk , Janet Has never really Made A Big fus About the Rumor only Announced All Allegations aren't True which anyone can Set up & say But She Never Went After Her Ex in Laws Upon Claiming False Accusations Or To keep them from Talking .

So I'm looking at These 2 Actions , & They Seem To me to Be Hiding Something Other Wise James Shouldn't Still Be Not wanting to Talk .

Actually, Janet has stated several times that she does not have any children. As for James, I think his being coy about the situation is just a way for attention.

Its Almost as If Janet Paid James Off to Keep him From Talking About Anything Regarding Her Having A Child , Who's to say She didn't Have him Sign A Agreement Not to Talk & Paid him Off .

Cause I Find still strange that Any normal man Would be willing to keep His Mouth Shut Unless His Butt was Paid some Good money & Agreed Not to talk .

Cause If you think Any Normal Black man Would be Claiming Hes Not the Father Or saying Something About Him not having A kid ........ Like What Normal Guy Do you see setting around Not wanting to Talk or Talking about Him not been the Father .

& If I'm Corrected Mrs.DeBarge Did say James wants to See His Child W/Janet If its A Child there , So it seems to Me that James Wants to be apart of this Kid If Janet does Have one & he seems not to be the dead Beat type of Guy .

So Whats keeping him Restricted & From Talking if Theres No Baby the only thing I can think of Is If Janet & her Lawyers got James to sign A Agreement not to Talk & Janet Paid his Ass off To keep him from Talking .

jax85 said:

whatsgoingon said:

If the media can track down Joe Jackson's secret love child, and spread it across the tabloids they sure would be able to track down Janet Jackson's secret child. especially after all these years. Sooner or later someone would go to the media with a picture and an article about this child. Janet has been too famous for too long to keep such a thing out of the media, no matter how private she is.

There are ways to Hide A Child & I've Heard many of The Options that A woman Can use In order to Hide her Indentity & Hide Her ever having A Baby & Some have been used As fare Back as in the 1960's & even Some in the 1980's .

Option #1 : A Woman can Have Another Woman to step in & Sign The Child's Birth Certificate & Birth Documents & Give the Child To that Woman to Raise this has been Done In the 60's & I even have A Friend Who's Mother Left her In A Hospital with A Friend & the Friend Signed The Birth Certificate & Toke the Baby Home & raised it & for years The Girl Never knew it Until Her Real Mother showed up & She was Finally told the Truth , & With this All the Baby's Birth Documents Are all In Another Womans Or Parents Names However Its not A Adoption , But Its A Form Of Giving A Child up But Birth Records Will only Show Whom evers Names That were writed on the Babys Birth Records This Is Easy To do & Hard for Anyone to Get any Information About the Birth Mother Or Birth Orgins Of the child Cause Its Just as If Whom Ever Signs The Babys Paperwork Is The Birth Mother Or Parent Theres No Adoption Paper Trail . & A woman on Dateline Or 20/20 Did this Exact thing with her Son in 1985 Had Another Woman To Sign All Documents & Gave her Son to that Woman claiming She was to Sick to sign Her own Son's Birth Papers , & The Hospital Allowed it & in most cases if not All casesThe Hospital Don't Check For anything So Any Woman Can give Birth & Have Another Woman Sign Paperwork & Give the CHild to Them .

Hell this is what Has been Told happen to me At Birth With my Aunt , People Believe My Aunt Gave me to My Dad & Mother & Allowed My Mother to Sign off on Birth Documents & Allowed Her Brother My Daddy & My Mom To step in & Raise me .. However I've never Checked this Story to see if it was True , However it can Be done.

Options #2 & #3 : Adoption & Abortion Both Would Still have Some Paper trail & With Janet Jackson been who she is Someone Can & Could still Go & pull up A Paper trail of her Having A Abortion Or Adopting A Baby Unless She used Another Name Other wise There Would be A Paper trail leading A Janet Damita Jo Jackson to A Abortion Or A Baby Adopted in 1985 .

Plus its been 25 or 26 Years ago Doctors & Nurses can Die & or Resign from Work Who to say If this didn't Happend Plus People Memories Aren't Good some people can Forget .

My thing Is I think Janet Did Option #1 With Using A Fake Phony Name & had the Baby & Had some Other Woman to step in & Sign The Birth Certificate & Childs Documents & gave the Baby away & Thats why? NO! One can Find Anything On A Janet Jackson Having A Baby in 85" Cause she Could had Used A Phony Fake Name to Conseal Her Identity & lets not Forget We all Have Twins & people who look like Us So Maybe the Hospital & people thought She was Whom ever She said She was During the time she had The Baby .

So Hell You can Hide A child If you Do it right , Its not Impossible to do .

If Janet gave up her baby for adoption to complete strangers, whereby the child had nothing to do with the Jacksons, I can understand it being so hidden. But people are saying that she gave up her child to someone within the Jackson family to look after, that's a lot harder to conceal for so long, because even if every member of the Jackson family is swore into secrecy, someone in the family i.e. latoya would have blurted it out. If not within the immediate family, extended family members would have come out, with pictures etc.

The tabloids are even scrutinising the birth of Donte, who is suppose to have been adopted by Randy Jackson and his partner, who later went onto marry Jermaine. It is more or less a fact that the boy is definetly Jackson, who is probably one of Joe jackson illegitimate children. Someone a

whatsgoingon said:

jax85 said:

There are ways to Hide A Child & I've Heard many of The Options that A woman Can use In order to Hide her Indentity & Hide Her ever having A Baby & Some have been used As fare Back as in the 1960's & even Some in the 1980's .

Option #1 : A Woman can Have Another Woman to step in & Sign The Child's Birth Certificate & Birth Documents & Give the Child To that Woman to Raise this has been Done In the 60's & I even have A Friend Who's Mother Left her In A Hospital with A Friend & the Friend Signed The Birth Certificate & Toke the Baby Home & raised it & for years The Girl Never knew it Until Her Real Mother showed up & She was Finally told the Truth , & With this All the Baby's Birth Documents Are all In Another Womans Or Parents Names However Its not A Adoption , But Its A Form Of Giving A Child up But Birth Records Will only Show Whom evers Names That were writed on the Babys Birth Records This Is Easy To do & Hard for Anyone to Get any Information About the Birth Mother Or Birth Orgins Of the child Cause Its Just as If Whom Ever Signs The Babys Paperwork Is The Birth Mother Or Parent Theres No Adoption Paper Trail . & A woman on Dateline Or 20/20 Did this Exact thing with her Son in 1985 Had Another Woman To Sign All Documents & Gave her Son to that Woman claiming She was to Sick to sign Her own Son's Birth Papers , & The Hospital Allowed it & in most cases if not All casesThe Hospital Don't Check For anything So Any Woman Can give Birth & Have Another Woman Sign Paperwork & Give the CHild to Them .

Hell this is what Has been Told happen to me At Birth With my Aunt , People Believe My Aunt Gave me to My Dad & Mother & Allowed My Mother to Sign off on Birth Documents & Allowed Her Brother My Daddy & My Mom To step in & Raise me .. However I've never Checked this Story to see if it was True , However it can Be done.

Options #2 & #3 : Adoption & Abortion Both Would Still have Some Paper trail & With Janet Jackson been who she is Someone Can & Could still Go & pull up A Paper trail of her Having A Abortion Or Adopting A Baby Unless She used Another Name Other wise There Would be A Paper trail leading A Janet Damita Jo Jackson to A Abortion Or A Baby Adopted in 1985 .

Plus its been 25 or 26 Years ago Doctors & Nurses can Die & or Resign from Work Who to say If this didn't Happend Plus People Memories Aren't Good some people can Forget .

My thing Is I think Janet Did Option #1 With Using A Fake Phony Name & had the Baby & Had some Other Woman to step in & Sign The Birth Certificate & Childs Documents & gave the Baby away & Thats why? NO! One can Find Anything On A Janet Jackson Having A Baby in 85" Cause she Could had Used A Phony Fake Name to Conseal Her Identity & lets not Forget We all Have Twins & people who look like Us So Maybe the Hospital & people thought She was Whom ever She said She was During the time she had The Baby .

So Hell You can Hide A child If you Do it right , Its not Impossible to do .

If Janet gave up her baby for adoption to complete strangers, whereby the child had nothing to do with the Jacksons, I can understand it being so hidden. But people are saying that she gave up her child to someone within the Jackson family to look after, that's a lot harder to conceal for so long, because even if every member of the Jackson family is swore into secrecy, someone in the family i.e. latoya would have blurted it out. If not within the immediate family, extended family members would have come out, with pictures etc.

The tabloids are even scrutinising the birth of Donte, who is suppose to have been adopted by Randy Jackson and his partner, who later went onto marry Jermaine. It is more or less a fact that the boy is definetly Jackson, who is probably one of Joe jackson illegitimate children. Someone a

And how long did Janet keep her marriage to Renee secret??

Spinlight said:

whatsgoingon said:

If Janet gave up her baby for adoption to complete strangers, whereby the child had nothing to do with the Jacksons, I can understand it being so hidden. But people are saying that she gave up her child to someone within the Jackson family to look after, that's a lot harder to conceal for so long, because even if every member of the Jackson family is swore into secrecy, someone in the family i.e. latoya would have blurted it out. If not within the immediate family, extended family members would have come out, with pictures etc.

The tabloids are even scrutinising the birth of Donte, who is suppose to have been adopted by Randy Jackson and his partner, who later went onto marry Jermaine. It is more or less a fact that the boy is definetly Jackson, who is probably one of Joe jackson illegitimate children. Someone a

And how long did Janet keep her marriage to Renee secret??

10 yrs, however Renee were together anyway, people weren't just sure whether they had made it official or not, completely different fro concealing a child for over 20 years. Well before Janet came out saying she was married, there were already rumours saying they were married, infact Latoya was saying they were married well before it came out. You trying to tell me that Latoyo would keep quiet over a baby for up to 25 yrs

jeidee said:

i was gonna read this thread, But The Way Y'all selectively Capitalize Words and use Punctuation is REALLY fUcking Annoying to. Read.

while debating whether or not to even attempt to follow this logic it dawned on me: why do y'all care about these freaks and their seeds?

if they got fake kids, thats great. their kids are fake like their hair, titties, nails, personal lives, singing voices...

you must care too or you wouldnt have come in the thread right?

whatsgoingon said:

jax85 said:

There are ways to Hide A Child & I've Heard many of The Options that A woman Can use In order to Hide her Indentity & Hide Her ever having A Baby & Some have been used As fare Back as in the 1960's & even Some in the 1980's .

Option #1 : A Woman can Have Another Woman to step in & Sign The Child's Birth Certificate & Birth Documents & Give the Child To that Woman to Raise this has been Done In the 60's & I even have A Friend Who's Mother Left her In A Hospital with A Friend & the Friend Signed The Birth Certificate & Toke the Baby Home & raised it & for years The Girl Never knew it Until Her Real Mother showed up & She was Finally told the Truth , & With this All the Baby's Birth Documents Are all In Another Womans Or Parents Names However Its not A Adoption , But Its A Form Of Giving A Child up But Birth Records Will only Show Whom evers Names That were writed on the Babys Birth Records This Is Easy To do & Hard for Anyone to Get any Information About the Birth Mother Or Birth Orgins Of the child Cause Its Just as If Whom Ever Signs The Babys Paperwork Is The Birth Mother Or Parent Theres No Adoption Paper Trail . & A woman on Dateline Or 20/20 Did this Exact thing with her Son in 1985 Had Another Woman To Sign All Documents & Gave her Son to that Woman claiming She was to Sick to sign Her own Son's Birth Papers , & The Hospital Allowed it & in most cases if not All casesThe Hospital Don't Check For anything So Any Woman Can give Birth & Have Another Woman Sign Paperwork & Give the CHild to Them .

Hell this is what Has been Told happen to me At Birth With my Aunt , People Believe My Aunt Gave me to My Dad & Mother & Allowed My Mother to Sign off on Birth Documents & Allowed Her Brother My Daddy & My Mom To step in & Raise me .. However I've never Checked this Story to see if it was True , However it can Be done.

Options #2 & #3 : Adoption & Abortion Both Would Still have Some Paper trail & With Janet Jackson been who she is Someone Can & Could still Go & pull up A Paper trail of her Having A Abortion Or Adopting A Baby Unless She used Another Name Other wise There Would be A Paper trail leading A Janet Damita Jo Jackson to A Abortion Or A Baby Adopted in 1985 .

Plus its been 25 or 26 Years ago Doctors & Nurses can Die & or Resign from Work Who to say If this didn't Happend Plus People Memories Aren't Good some people can Forget .

My thing Is I think Janet Did Option #1 With Using A Fake Phony Name & had the Baby & Had some Other Woman to step in & Sign The Birth Certificate & Childs Documents & gave the Baby away & Thats why? NO! One can Find Anything On A Janet Jackson Having A Baby in 85" Cause she Could had Used A Phony Fake Name to Conseal Her Identity & lets not Forget We all Have Twins & people who look like Us So Maybe the Hospital & people thought She was Whom ever She said She was During the time she had The Baby .

So Hell You can Hide A child If you Do it right , Its not Impossible to do .

If Janet gave up her baby for adoption to complete strangers, whereby the child had nothing to do with the Jacksons, I can understand it being so hidden. But people are saying that she gave up her child to someone within the Jackson family to look after, that's a lot harder to conceal for so long, because even if every member of the Jackson family is swore into secrecy, someone in the family i.e. latoya would have blurted it out. If not within the immediate family, extended family members would have come out, with pictures etc.

The tabloids are even scrutinising the birth of Donte, who is suppose to have been adopted by Randy Jackson and his partner, who later went onto marry Jermaine. It is more or less a fact that the boy is definetly Jackson, who is probably one of Joe jackson illegitimate children. Someone a

@whatsgoingon ,

Thats exactly what I'm trying to say , I don't Believe that Janet Gave A baby to One of her Brothers that Includes "Brandi" who's Adopted .

Someone would Have came out "LATOYA" & said Something back in the early 90's when She was making allegations of Abuse & Sexual molestation Toward Joe this would had been told too .

I believe Janet did have a child But Gave it up to another Family & thats Why? No one knows if theres A Kid .

i Also still Think Janet has Paid James DeBarge off to not talk Or Had him sign some type of A Agreement not to Talk about This Subject , & I can see James been Nieve & doing Something For Janet Because He still Loves her I don't think Hes been Coy Or doing it to keep Attention going I Think Hes been Threaten Not to say Anything .

As For People claiming Janet's Niece Brandi been The secret Kid , Not Possible given the Fact that Janet was on TV doing "Different Strokes" as Charlene Duprey when Jackie & His Wife Enid Adopted Brandi , Plus I did Some more Digging & Found out in 1983 NBC Network Fired Dana Plato For getting Pregnant in 83' so With that Said If Janet Had Brandi in Feb 6th of 1982 I'm wondering why? NBC Network Didn't Fire her as well .

& They claim Janet was Pregnant in 1985 So How can Brandi Been Born A few Years Earlier suddenly Be A Baby Janet suppose to had or Aborted in 1985 ......LOL

I Think Janet did Have the Baby , But I don't think the Baby is Within The Jackson Family Given the Fact that this Now 25 year old Adult Would be Asking Mommy Questions & Trying to Contact The DeBarge Family Or James .

& If I'm Correct I believe Brandi knows shes Adopted , & Its Odd that If shes Janets kid w/James DeBarge Why? Hasn't Brandi tried to Contact The DeBarge Family & Why Still today The DeBarge Family are still Talking about Janet Having A Baby If Brandi is the Kid & Why haven't Anyone within The DeBarge Family ever Claims Brandi to be this "Renee" kid .

& another thing That I Find that Don't Make Sence Neither Brandi & The Jacksons All Live in California , So does James DeBarge & Some of his Family & His Mother Just Move to CA not long Ago Mrs.DeBarge , Ok if Brandi was Janet's Secret daughter You mean to Tell me No One from The DeBarge Family Including James's Ass Has Never Tried to Go to The Jackson Coupound In Encino,CA & try to Meet This kid if shes the kid & do A DNA test ..........LOL

So I mean I do Think Janet had A Baby , But I do not See The DeBarge Family especially Mrs.DeBarge & Young DeBarge & Chico DeBarge & them Not trying to Go to The Jackson Family Home to Try to At least See Or meet this kid Or Raising Hell with Janet & her Siblings about Seen this Kid .

So I Believe Janet Gave up Her Baby , I do not Believe Brandi Or any other Kid within the Jackson Family is the Kid Or else Some one Including the kid would have said something by now .

[Edited 5/12/11 10:57am]

& I find it Hard to Believe That If Brandi Is Janet's why? haven't she tried Contacting The DeBarge's or at least Her Dad James .......LOL

I Mean people Don't Think that If Brandi Knew of her Parentrs that This Young Lady wouldn't Be trying to Go & Meet Her Father & His Family & Brandi don't seem to be the type That Wouldn't Want to meet her Parents .

& Her Been now A Adult at 29 years old She can go & do A DNA Test with Mrs.DeBarge She doesn't Need Janet To do one To see If shes Related to James .

jax85 said:

& I find it Hard to Believe That If Brandi Is Janet's why? haven't she tried Contacting The DeBarge's or at least Her Dad James .......LOL

I Mean people Don't Think that If Brandi Knew of her Parentrs that This Young Lady wouldn't Be trying to Go & Meet Her Father & His Family & Brandi don't seem to be the type That Wouldn't Want to meet her Parents .

& Her Been now A Adult at 29 years old She can go & do A DNA Test with Mrs.DeBarge She doesn't Need Janet To do one To see If shes Related to James .

So I mean Brandi been Janet's , But not Trying to Meet Her Dad Or anyone of the DeBarge's Is as odd & strange as it comes Given the fact Brandi knows Shes Adopted .

But I think Lori Is Brandi's Real Mother Lori was Enid Spann's Friend & I Swear Brandi & Lori look like Twin's Like Lori Gave Birth To Brandi ...........LOL

& Oddly Lori has been seen in Recent Pictures With Brandi & They look Identical a like , & I Keep saying I Believe Enid's Friend Lori Possibly is Brandi's Mother Or Surrogate Carrier .

& lets not forget Jermaine , & Randy have Cheated & ran off with Different women & Married the same woman & had kids with her .

lets throw In Randy Cheating on his First Wive Eliza Shaffy Who he had his First Child with "Steveanna" with For Alejandra Ortiz who He also Had Pregnant at the same time he Had Eliza so His 2 Daughters Genevieve & Steveanna are Both the same age & are about A few months apart .

Jackie Cheated on Enid 2 or more times & Theres Rumor that "Brandi" is A Result of his Cheating But What Wife would Want to Raise A child their Husband Had with Another Woman I never Believed This Story one Bit , I Truly Believe "Brandi" is Just A Kid They Adopted Or their Friend Lori Carried A child for them Since Brandi Looks like A corban copy of Enid's friend Lori .

Then I believe Jermaine Or Randy's Ex-Wife Wrote A Book About the Family called ": Jacksons Family Values" .

Anyway With how Dysfunctional The Jacksons were Back then & even Now & How the Guys Beat & Abused & Cheated on their Wives & How Latoya likes to Blab her Mouth all the Time even If shes fabricating Stories up & crap you mean to tell me No ex-Wives , Latoya , No one within the Family has Blab off & told rather Janet has A kid within the Family No Ex-Wives Revenge & tells all ........LOL

I mean really if Brandi was Janets Some body within This Family would Have told this ..... Not to mention This makes Up A Jucy story For Money & attention you mean None of Janets Broke money Greedy grabbing Brothers "JERMAINE" "i.e" has never tried to Sell his little Sister Out for Money & Attention Cause this Would Be Big Money & Spot light to him .......LOL

& You have 3 Big Money & Media Attention Whores In The Jackson Family You Got LATOYA , JOE , & JERMAINE you mean None of the 3 Has Never Tried to Sell A story Of Janet having A Baby within The family especially Joe & Latoya .

So No I believe Janet went some were Alone without anyone & without Telling anyone & Had the Baby & adopted it out & thats why? None of the Family is Talking Cause they Probably don't know .............LOL & Janet is good at Keeping her Shit secret .

& I can see Janet Telling her Family the Same shit she Told James & His Family that she needed to go to Travel away & Went & had the Baby & Gave her or Him up for Adoption , & Came back Home & is telling everyone she had A Abortion , which is easy to say uhhhhhhh I Had A Abortion Because Theres No Witness & if she Went alone No one Would know But only whatever Janet tells them .

So i mean Just because She says She Had A Abortion Doesn't Mean she did & Just For ( Example) Hell I could Go & tell my Ex Boyfriend & Family I had A Damn Abortion & Since No one was There No one Truly Knows So Of course They'll Believe it .

So What I'm trying to Say Janet Could have Had The Baby Alone in A Hospital & Used A Phony Name & Gave the Baby up For A Adoption or Gave the Baby up to A Unknown Family Or Woman . Came Back home to CA in 1985 Did her Control Album & Shit & Just decided to Tell Everyone She had A Abortion .

So I mean She can say she had a Abortion or Never Had A Baby , But Still doesn't Make since to Why? her Ex-Hubby James Is Not Talking . .........LOL & Won't Defend her Claims of her Never having A Child w/Him .

& Plus Mrs.DeBarge said Janet told them that She had A Abortion , But like myself Mrs.DeBarge Believes in her Heart that Janet Actually had that Baby & Gave it up For Adoption Or to A Family member .

I Believe she Gave the Baby Up For Adoption & Used A Fake Phony Name & Thats why? The Baby hasn't came out Hell It may not know & never know not unless The Child gets Sick or something & they need Medical History .

So I mean Janet Giving A Child to A Family Within The Jackson Family & No one not even Big Mouth Latoya has Said nothing about This Child that Everyone Claim's is Brandi Jackie's Adopted Daughter to me thats Hard to Believe Nothing less Its Hard to Believe The Child "Brandi" herself Hasn't Reached out to The DeBarge's or Tried Contacting James DeBarge & Its Hard to Believe that The DeBarge's Have Never Asked About Brandi Nor Have they Ever Claimed her to be A DeBarge Kid , & Plus her Birth Don't Add up Or Coinside with The whole Story due to Janet Been Pregnant in 1985 &^ Brandi been Born & Adopted in 1982 years Earlier .

jax85 said:

So I mean Janet Giving A Child to A Family Within The Jackson Family & No one not even Big Mouth Latoya has Said nothing about This Child that Everyone Claim's is Brandi Jackie's Adopted Daughter to me thats Hard to Believe Nothing less Its Hard to Believe The Child "Brandi" herself Hasn't Reached out to The DeBarge's or Tried Contacting James DeBarge & Its Hard to Believe that The DeBarge's Have Never Asked About Brandi Nor Have they Ever Claimed her to be A DeBarge Kid , & Plus her Birth Don't Add up Or Coinside with The whole Story due to Janet Been Pregnant in 1985 &^ Brandi been Born & Adopted in 1982 years Earlier .

It seems u r having a debate with yourself.....

Timmy84 said:

BklynBabe said:

Have you ever considered that maybe she was pregnant and had a MISCARRIAGE and that could be why she doesn't want to talk about it?

I don't blame her for not wanting to talk about it if it was true. But I think it's common knowledge now that Brandi isn't Janet's. I have nephews and nieces who look like my relatives, don't mean said relative is that child's parent.

Brandi is allegedly adopted as well.

mimi07 said:

Timmy84 said:

I don't blame her for not wanting to talk about it if it was true. But I think it's common knowledge now that Brandi isn't Janet's. I have nephews and nieces who look like my relatives, don't mean said relative is that child's parent.

Brandi is allegedly adopted as well.

& Brandi Looks Very much like Enid's Friend LORI & Oddly Lori can be seen in recent Pictures with Brandi at A Baby Shower On Brandi's Facebook & I Swear Lori Is Brandi's Birth Mother Or She's A Surrogate Carrier Of Brandi But Brandi Looks like A carbon copy Of Enid's Friend Lori . Yet People have tried to say Brandi is Janets & James's Child , However After seen Brandi & Lori in Pictures together I Swear Lori gave birth to Brandi that girl looks so much like Lori It can not be denied thats why I said Lori Could had became A Surrogate Carrier Or She could had gotten Pregnant & ccouldn't take care of the Child & Allowed Jackie & his Ex-Wife Enid to Adopt her Child & they Just Allowed her Around the Kid & in the Pictures Theres Another Girl Shes A Little Heavy set & She looks like She could be Brandi's Sister Or kin Folks cause the girl looks Latino But her & Brandi Favor a lot So Who knows Lori Could Be Brandi's Mother .

But Also Brandi Just recently Put A old Picture Of her , Enid & I Guess Enid's Mother & Brandi is A Child & she has on A Red Shirt & to me Brandi Kinda looks like Enid too as A Young Child .

So its Hard to pinpoint Were Brandi really Comes from cause She looks like Some of The Jacksons , She Looks like She could be A DeBarge Kid , She Looks like Enid's Friend Lori & Then If you look at Brandi Closely She kinda looks like Enid as well .

So Who knows Were Brandi Comes from But Janet was said to be Pregnant in 1985 & Brandi was born in 1982 & was 6 or 7 years old in 1988 during the 2300 Jackson Street Video , Janet's Alleged Baby w/James deBarge Would had Been 2 years old in 1988 .

mimi07 said:

Timmy84 said:

I don't blame her for not wanting to talk about it if it was true. But I think it's common knowledge now that Brandi isn't Janet's. I have nephews and nieces who look like my relatives, don't mean said relative is that child's parent.

Brandi is allegedly adopted as well.

But heres what I'm also wondering @mimi07 , Enid was of Mix race Black & Asian I believe , Could it be possible that Jackie & Enid actually Had Brandi together & brandi just so happend to come out Lighter & curly Hair ?.

Cause I look at Kamora Lee & her Kids her 2 Daughters w/ Russle Are Brown Caramel Color I think Ming Lee looks more like Her Dad & His Family , Aoki Lee looks A bit more Asian But you can still tell she Half Black because of her Hair While Kamora's Last Baby Her Son Looks African American decent He looks Nothing like he could Have A Mix Asian/Black Mother .

So heres the Thing Enid had her Son Siggy Who looks more African Decent & looks like His Father Jackie & Is Almost the Same color as Jackie Maybe A bit more Lighter though .

I'm Wondering Could it be possible that Maybe Brandi Is Enid's & Jackie's Child But She Just Came out Lighter & with Curly Hair like Enid's .

Cause as we know Us Black people can have A Dark Child & then turn around & have A light skin Child & then if you throw in Biracial Backgrounds Shoot anything can Pop up When Having kids . ..lol & Jackie has never refered Brandi as been Adopted He's always Said His Daughter when Introducing his Kids or Talking about His 2 Children .

[Edited 5/13/11 18:39pm]

whatsgoingon said:

jax85 said:

So I mean Janet Giving A Child to A Family Within The Jackson Family & No one not even Big Mouth Latoya has Said nothing about This Child that Everyone Claim's is Brandi Jackie's Adopted Daughter to me thats Hard to Believe Nothing less Its Hard to Believe The Child "Brandi" herself Hasn't Reached out to The DeBarge's or Tried Contacting James DeBarge & Its Hard to Believe that The DeBarge's Have Never Asked About Brandi Nor Have they Ever Claimed her to be A DeBarge Kid , & Plus her Birth Don't Add up Or Coinside with The whole Story due to Janet Been Pregnant in 1985 &^ Brandi been Born & Adopted in 1982 years Earlier .

It seems u r having a debate with yourself.....

LMAO

jax85 said:

SEANMAN said:

She was too busy after she left "Fame" to have given birth to a baby and dealt with all the legal red tape of adoption, what with the whole annulment thing and the moving to Minneapolis to work on Control.

& Yet Still James DeBarge won't Open his Mouth about rather they do Or don't Have A Baby , If theres No Baby Why? is James still Been secretive & Mouth Shut About the hole Rumor .

Janet her self Has Really never Dismissed This Rumor neither

So With 2 Main key People Been still Secretive & Not really Talking , Theres something to it , If She never Had A Baby Then I would Think James Would Come out & Say NO WE DO NOT HAVE A CHILD TOGETHER . he Still refuses to comment on This Subject , So I mean You may Say whatever But I'm Looking At James not Talking & Refuses to talk , Janet Has never really Made A Big fus About the Rumor only Announced All Allegations aren't True which anyone can Set up & say But She Never Went After Her Ex in Laws Upon Claiming False Accusations Or To keep them from Talking .

So I'm looking at These 2 Actions , & They Seem To me to Be Hiding Something Other Wise James Shouldn't Still Be Not wanting to Talk .

maybe james 'refuses' to talk because there is nothing to talk about? as the father james would have had rights, janet couldnt just give his kid away.also a judge wont annull a marriage if there are kids involved. look, janet was very young and fell in love with a dude who turned out to be a drug addict, according to him she got pregnant and im sure her family were terrified with the thought of her bringing a child into that situation, according to james she got an abortion. janet has a fat gene, so yeah she will blow up very early in a pregnancy.the debarge family uses this story every time they are trying to promote something, that young debarge character went so far to say he was close to the girl and how much she hated janet.when latoya went on her diss-her-family tour no way would she had left this info out, i mean she accused her father of raping her and her sister and accused her brother of being a child molester, saying janet had a kid would have been mild compared to those.

jax85 said:

mimi07 said:

Brandi is allegedly adopted as well.

But heres what I'm also wondering @mimi07 , Enid was of Mix race Black & Asian I believe , Could it be possible that Jackie & Enid actually Had Brandi together & brandi just so happend to come out Lighter & curly Hair ?.

Cause I look at Kamora Lee & her Kids her 2 Daughters w/ Russle Are Brown Caramel Color I think Ming Lee looks more like Her Dad & His Family , Aoki Lee looks A bit more Asian But you can still tell she Half Black because of her Hair While Kamora's Last Baby Her Son Looks African American decent He looks Nothing like he could Have A Mix Asian/Black Mother .

So heres the Thing Enid had her Son Siggy Who looks more African Decent & looks like His Father Jackie & Is Almost the Same color as Jackie Maybe A bit more Lighter though .

I'm Wondering Could it be possible that Maybe Brandi Is Enid's & Jackie's Child But She Just Came out Lighter & with Curly Hair like Enid's .

Cause as we know Us Black people can have A Dark Child & then turn around & have A light skin Child & then if you throw in Biracial Backgrounds Shoot anything can Pop up When Having kids . ..lol & Jackie has never refered Brandi as been Adopted He's always Said His Daughter when Introducing his Kids or Talking about His 2 Children .

[Edited 5/13/11 18:39pm]

Yeah, genetics aren't always predictable. i say she allegedly adopted because i read it years ago and there wwas an article that mentioned it too from the 80's but i don't have my source and i don't know how legit it is but either way Jackie is her father and she's a Jackson.

I don't believe Janet had a baby with James, maybe there was a scare but I can't see her having a baby and hiding it. Yes she hid her marriage but she didn't hide rene, everyone knew they were a couple. On another board there was this person who is adamant that janet had a baby, they say they know people who say her looking pregnant during fame and that the Debarges know she had a baby and is keeping them out of the loop. You's think if you know someone is hiding your baby that you'd fight harder to be apart of it's life. I think people attribute Janet's weight gain when she went on birth control to pregnancy, that must be a bit embarrassing for her as well, no woman wants to get misten for being pregnant.

[Edited 5/14/11 10:30am]