formallypickles said:

all of these women can sang! especially miss wash and miss carey but

pre crack whitney could out sing all of them

[Edited 5/10/11 10:56am]

Whitney was never a better vocalist than Rachelle Ferrell. I think you are probably unfamiliar with her work.

formallypickles said:

as far as her voice no!! she doesnt have alot of range. If she came out to today you people wouldnt be saying she was the best

i think you guys are blinded by Sade's classy seductive image.

[Edited 5/10/11 10:20am]

So, maybe you could explain the sold out tours after an 8 year hiatus? Sade goes away and comes back and is still adored. There are a lot of pretty vocalists who, if they went away for 8 years would have to start playing at small local clubs again just to get a buzz. She went away and came back to huge venues. You may not like her but be honest about it. Nobody is going to pay the kind of money her tickets cost just to see a pretty cougar who can't really sing that well. Pebbles couldn't sell out the men's bathroom at Macys right about now. Even though Vanessa L. Williams can sing her ass off, she couldn't get arena gigs at this point. Sade has something special; her voice. Like it or not, people love her for a reason and its not her looks.

BlaqueKnight said:

formallypickles said:

as far as her voice no!! she doesnt have alot of range. If she came out to today you people wouldnt be saying she was the best

i think you guys are blinded by Sade's classy seductive image.

[Edited 5/10/11 10:20am]

So, maybe you could explain the sold out tours after an 8 year hiatus? Sade goes away and comes back and is still adored. There are a lot of pretty vocalists who, if they went away for 8 years would have to start playing at small local clubs again just to get a buzz. She went away and came back to huge venues. You may not like her but be honest about it. Nobody is going to pay the kind of money her tickets cost just to see a pretty cougar who can't really sing that well. Pebbles couldn't sell out the men's bathroom at Macys right about now. Even though Vanessa L. Williams can sing her ass off, she couldn't get arena gigs at this point. Sade has something special; her voice. Like it or not, people love her for a reason and its not her looks.

yeah and ?? still doesnt mean shes the best female vocalist in the last 25 years

if you wanna go down route Rihanna has sold out concerts and sold millions does this make her the best vocalist out now? no..

lets not talk about how much she sells lets talk about her voice leave all that other stuff out

so sade is in a singing competion

round one

Sade vs Matha Wash..who would win ?

This portion of this site should be renamed Music Snob central.

BlaqueKnight said:

formallypickles said:

all of these women can sang! especially miss wash and miss carey but

pre crack whitney could out sing all of them

[Edited 5/10/11 10:56am]

Whitney was never a better vocalist than Rachelle Ferrell. I think you are probably unfamiliar with her work.

i know who she is ..

and i think they sound alittle like

i still think whitney is better..

formallypickles said:

BlaqueKnight said:

So, maybe you could explain the sold out tours after an 8 year hiatus? Sade goes away and comes back and is still adored. There are a lot of pretty vocalists who, if they went away for 8 years would have to start playing at small local clubs again just to get a buzz. She went away and came back to huge venues. You may not like her but be honest about it. Nobody is going to pay the kind of money her tickets cost just to see a pretty cougar who can't really sing that well. Pebbles couldn't sell out the men's bathroom at Macys right about now. Even though Vanessa L. Williams can sing her ass off, she couldn't get arena gigs at this point. Sade has something special; her voice. Like it or not, people love her for a reason and its not her looks.

yeah and ?? still doesnt mean shes the best female vocalist in the last 25 years

if you wanna go down route Rihanna has sold out concerts and sold millions does this make her the best vocalist out now? no..

lets not talk about how much she sells lets talk about her voice leave all that other stuff out

so sade is in a singing competion

round one

Sade vs Matha Wash..who would win ?

Please show me where I said she was the best singer in the last 25 years. You CAN'T because THAT IS NOT WHAT I SAID!

I said she has a strong fan base and a unique voice, which she does. As powerful of a singer as Martha Wash is, her VOICE is not that unique. Where I grew up, there was a Martha Wash in every church. That is not a knock at Miss Wash. She is a great SINGER. Great SINGER doesn't equate to unique tone. Sade has unique tone. It is that tone, coupled with the material that she and her band writes that gives her a special quality that people like. When you're done whining about it, she will STILL have a strong fan base full of people who like her VOICE. So, argue away all day long but there are people that love her sound and there isn't a damn thing that you can do to change that. People like what they like. Period.

formallypickles said:

BlaqueKnight said:

Whitney was never a better vocalist than Rachelle Ferrell. I think you are probably unfamiliar with her work.

i know who she is ..

and i think they sound alittle like

i still think whitney is better..

Whitney stan. And they don't sound NOTHING alike.

[Edited 5/10/11 15:50pm]

Some of y'all just love church singers.

Yeah she's the best female artist that still keeps her same style instead of switching new(in a good way). New material usually turns out bad.

Timmy84 said:

crazylegs said:

Nothing wrong with a strong reaction, but that doesn't mean that they're throwing shade on Sade.

Alright shade's a strong word but still...

You gotta admit Sade has some great songs. Hell she has some classics.

Oh no doubt. But no one said she didn't have great songs either .

formallypickles said:

BlaqueKnight said:

Whitney was never a better vocalist than Rachelle Ferrell. I think you are probably unfamiliar with her work.

i know who she is ..

and i think they sound alittle like

i still think whitney is better..

Really? You know Rachelle has a 5 octave range, right? (with complete control over it)

Whitney was the blueprint for most of the female R&B singers that came out after her and she "was" a truly gifted singer...but Rachelle s in another stratosphere. She floors me every time I hear her live.

BlaqueKnight said:

formallypickles said:

yeah and ?? still doesnt mean shes the best female vocalist in the last 25 years

if you wanna go down route Rihanna has sold out concerts and sold millions does this make her the best vocalist out now? no..

lets not talk about how much she sells lets talk about her voice leave all that other stuff out

so sade is in a singing competion

round one

Sade vs Matha Wash..who would win ?

Please show me where I said she was the best singer in the last 25 years. You CAN'T because THAT IS NOT WHAT I SAID!

I said she has a strong fan base and a unique voice, which she does. As powerful of a singer as Martha Wash is, her VOICE is not that unique. Where I grew up, there was a Martha Wash in every church. That is not a knock at Miss Wash. She is a great SINGER. Great SINGER doesn't equate to unique tone. Sade has unique tone. It is that tone, coupled with the material that she and her band writes that gives her a special quality that people like. When you're done whining about it, she will STILL have a strong fan base full of people who like her VOICE. So, argue away all day long but there are people that love her sound and there isn't a damn thing that you can do to change that. People like what they like. Period.

well that was what i was talking about in the beginning.... you know that is the topic of the thread, right?

and you responded to me..so what in hell are you talk about ??

clearly i was talking about whitney being the best in last 25 years...i was responding to joes post.

plus you just assumed i didnt like sade as an artist because i was talking about another artist more favorably than Sade.. please

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crazylegs said:

TotalAlisa said:

yes sade's voice is more unique, even janet's voice is more unique then Beyonce.

Beyonce has this ghetto church voice, and im pretty sure there are girls out there who can duplicate the sound and definitly the style.

"Ghetto church voice" I see where your head is at. You need not comment any further due to your lack of knowledge on this subject.

its not about knowlege its about my opinion. and what I hear.

The one thing I do know about beyonce, is that she is overrated, and her voice is as well....

Graycap23 said:

JoeTyler said:

IF 70% OF YOU ARE DISSIN' SADE, THEN WHO IS THE BEST FEMALE SINGER OF THE LAST 25 YEARS ?

Rachelle Ferrell

Ledisi

Conya Doss

M. Carey

Beyonce

Saundra St. Victor

Lalah Hathaway

Lauren Hill

Marha Wash.............and I'm sure I'm forgetting quite a few more.

how dare you put beyonce on this list and Not whitney houston or chaka khan...

someone please hurt him...

Timmy84 said:

formallypickles said:

i know who she is ..

and i think they sound alittle like

i still think whitney is better..

Whitney stan. And they don't sound NOTHING alike.

[Edited 5/10/11 15:50pm]

check rachelle singing any church song and see if they are tiny bit alike

and not a some smooth jazz type stuff either

Timmy84 said:

Graycap23 said:

Rachelle Ferrell

Ledisi

Conya Doss

M. Carey

Beyonce

Saundra St. Victor

Lalah Hathaway

Lauren Hill

Marha Wash.............and I'm sure I'm forgetting quite a few more.

Rachelle - I give you that

Ledisi - Oh most definitely (love her voice, but she needs material similar to Turn Me Loose)

Conya Doss - hmmm, she's aight

Mariah - wish she stop that damn whispering, you ain't Janet

Beyonce - yeah but needs better material (way better)

Saundra - she's good

Lalah -

Lauryn - fell off before she really took off

Martha - never got the respect she deserved

janet just starting that whispering sining on her last album. So don't even go there with this comment.

Mariah has been whispering since late 90s..... its just gotten worst as of post 2005

TotalAlisa said:

crazylegs said:

"Ghetto church voice" I see where your head is at. You need not comment any further due to your lack of knowledge on this subject.

its not about knowlege its about my opinion. and what I hear.

The one thing I do know about beyonce, is that she is overrated, and her voice is as well....

No, it is about lack of knowledge and your ignorant comment altogether.

crazylegs said:

TotalAlisa said:

its not about knowlege its about my opinion. and what I hear.

The one thing I do know about beyonce, is that she is overrated, and her voice is as well....

No, it is about lack of knowledge and your ignorant comment altogether.

what lack of knowlegde do i need to know about beyonce's voice please tell me

please tell me, because I have done research on her octaves and her capabilities and what not and she still sounds ghetto to me.

So please inform me.

BlaqueKnight said:

formallypickles said:

i know who she is ..

and i think they sound alittle like

i still think whitney is better..

Really? You know Rachelle has a 5 octave range, right? (with complete control over it)

Whitney was the blueprint for most of the female R&B singers that came out after her and she "was" a truly gifted singer...but Rachelle s in another stratosphere. She floors me every time I hear her live.

thats swell she floors you everytime but Whitney has that "it" factor in her voice that leaves just a longer sting to me than Rachelle.

PoppyBros said:

Yeah she's the best female artist that still keeps her same style instead of switching new(in a good way). New material usually turns out bad.

There's more to music than having a GREAT voice.

We know how people with great voices usually come out with CRAP.

TotalAlisa said:

crazylegs said:

No, it is about lack of knowledge and your ignorant comment altogether.

what lack of knowlegde do i need to know about beyonce's voice please tell me

please tell me, because I have done research on her octaves and her capabilities and what not and she still sounds ghetto to me.

So please inform me.

No need. You know it all. Ghetto and all.

TotalAlisa said:

Timmy84 said:

Rachelle - I give you that

Ledisi - Oh most definitely (love her voice, but she needs material similar to Turn Me Loose)

Conya Doss - hmmm, she's aight

Mariah - wish she stop that damn whispering, you ain't Janet

Beyonce - yeah but needs better material (way better)

Saundra - she's good

Lalah -

Lauryn - fell off before she really took off

Martha - never got the respect she deserved

janet just starting that whispering sining on her last album. So don't even go there with this comment.

Mariah has been whispering since late 90s..... its just gotten worst as of post 2005

I see you're the only fan in denial over this. That's OK, I let you argue with yourself on that.

formallypickles said:

Timmy84 said:

Whitney stan. And they don't sound NOTHING alike.

[Edited 5/10/11 15:50pm]

check rachelle singing any church song and see if they are tiny bit alike

and not a some smooth jazz type stuff either

She ain't never sung a church song. How about Whitney doing a jazz song?

Timmy84 said:

PoppyBros said:

Yeah she's the best female artist that still keeps her same style instead of switching new(in a good way). New material usually turns out bad.

There's more to music than having a GREAT voice.

We know how people with great voices usually come out with CRAP.

well he should said he was talking about the artist as a whole

not just singing and voice quality... he threw the whole damn thread to the left

Timmy84 said:

formallypickles said:

check rachelle singing any church song and see if they are tiny bit alike

and not a some smooth jazz type stuff either

She ain't never sung a church song. How about Whitney doing a jazz song?

yes she did timmy gowan and check the tube

Fuck it. Talk amongst yourselves on who was the greatest singer in middle school, I'm posting Sade videos. Sade Adu NEEDS SOME LOVE.

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Oh and Joe, you might need to edit the title to Sade Adu. Sade is also the name of the actual band too lol

crazylegs said:

TotalAlisa said:

what lack of knowlegde do i need to know about beyonce's voice please tell me

please tell me, because I have done research on her octaves and her capabilities and what not and she still sounds ghetto to me.

So please inform me.

No need. You know it all. Ghetto and all.

please I ask that you tell me, since you want to throw around the "ignorant" word.

Please inform me. Because Im speaking on the tone of her voice and her melisma technique.

Im not impressed, but hey if you can teach me something it still won't change what I think cause its my opinion.

Timmy84 said:

i love this song and video just so rainy and smooth