minneapolisFunq said:

diamondpearl1 said:

Jay wasnt the first 2 rhyme fast. K-Solo,Big Daddy Kane, Kool G Rap ,Rev Run, Rakim, and Kool Moe Dee were rhyming in double time years b4 it was a fad.

JAY-Z and JAZ-O are two different people. You are getting things confused as I never claimed that Jay was the first. I said that JAZ can be argued as the originator of the style.

I have dispelled the rumor that Jay stole from Bone and that was my intention!

It's not a rumor when it came straight from the horse's mouth.

I don't think Jaz was the originator of that fast-speeding rap. I give that one to Kool Moe Dee.

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LayzieKrayzie said:

minneapolisFunq said:

JAY-Z and JAZ-O are two different people. You are getting things confused as I never claimed that Jay was the first. I said that JAZ can be argued as the originator of the style.

I have dispelled the rumor that Jay stole from Bone and that was my intention!

It's not a rumor when it came straight from the horse's mouth.

You still haven't provided any evidence to support your claims while I have.

Jay never sounded anything like Bone. Simply rapping fast isn't "their" style.

+Timmy - I can't say that I have listened to much KMD, but everything I have heard was stereotypical slow 80s flow. Post up some choice cuts.

^ All I have is The New Rap Language.

Speaking of Jaz though, Jay-Z really sold him out.

Just to put an end to the Orgins of fast rap

Twista - 1991 (Runnin Off At Da Mouth Album)

Bone - 1993 (Faces of Death)

but who made it go mainstream or 'popular' was Bone in 1995

Big daddy kaine, Heavy D, Jaz-o, das efx etc there fast flow was short and choopy, almost a studder rap style.

Bone and Twista have fast flows that are continuous, not that starting and stopping, red light green light shit.

We can say that Jay-z's style originated from Jaz-o not cause he jacked it but more cause they were kind of a 'rap duo' in the early days, so obviously they fed off each other, but no way did Jay ever sound like Bone.

minneapolisFunq said:

LayzieKrayzie said:

It's not a rumor when it came straight from the horse's mouth.

You still haven't provided any evidence to support your claims while I have.

Jay never sounded anything like Bone. Simply rapping fast isn't "their" style.

+Timmy - I can't say that I have listened to much KMD, but everything I have heard was stereotypical slow 80s flow. Post up some choice cuts.

I never said that I personally think he sounded like them. I said I think he tried to. I didn't know I needed to "provide evidence" for something that you can just easily look up yourself.

DrHeat said:

Just to put an end to the Orgins of fast rap

Twista - 1991 (Runnin Off At Da Mouth Album)

Bone - 1993 (Faces of Death)

but who made it go mainstream or 'popular' was Bone in 1995

Big daddy kaine, Heavy D, Jaz-o, das efx etc there fast flow was short and choopy, almost a studder rap style.

Bone and Twista have fast flows that are continuous, not that starting and stopping, red light green light shit.

We can say that Jay-z's style originated from Jaz-o not cause he jacked it but more cause they were kind of a 'rap duo' in the early days, so obviously they fed off each other, but no way did Jay ever sound like Bone.

Not to change the topic, but since you said that, I just want to say Twista's old fast rapping was great. These days he's still good but he's losing it.

And I agree about what you said about Jay-Z and Jaz-O, I wouldn't considering Jay trying to jack Jaz's style but more because they were like a duo, they just tried to rap he same way.