This is when the Fat Boys said they jumped the shark as far as hip-hop was concerned.

Even at their works '80s rappers show show utterly devoid of talent today's rappers are.

Not heard this in ages. Love It!

Timmy84 said:

This is when the Fat Boys said they jumped the shark as far as hip-hop was concerned.

Pretty much.

I like Wipeout and The Twist too. I used to play them all the time. They're good tunes and fun, and I don't consider them "jumping the shark".

MickyDolenz said:

I like Wipeout and The Twist too. I used to play them all the time. They're good tunes and fun, and I don't consider them "jumping the shark".

Easy for you, you're a guy that don't discriminate within your own community. Glad you weren't brought up in the streets because SOME have that mentality that if you did this, you "sold out".

Timmy84 said:

MickyDolenz said:

I like Wipeout and The Twist too. I used to play them all the time. They're good tunes and fun, and I don't consider them "jumping the shark".

Easy for you, you're a guy that don't discriminate within your own community. Glad you weren't brought up in the streets because SOME have that mentality that if you did this, you "sold out".

I don't care about any "street cred", what does that got to do with anything? It doesn't sell records. It's like those perfromers that only music critics like, but not many people has heard of and are obscure. It's not like the Fat Boys were some hardcore, underground group in the 1st place. They made songs about food like All You Can Eat and Jailhouse Rap.

MickyDolenz said:

Timmy84 said:

Easy for you, you're a guy that don't discriminate within your own community. Glad you weren't brought up in the streets because SOME have that mentality that if you did this, you "sold out".

I don't care about any "street cred", what does that got to do with anything? It doesn't sell records. It's like those perfromers that only music critics like, but not many people has heard of and are obscure. It's not like the Fat Boys were some hardcore, underground group in the 1st place. They made songs about food like All You Can Eat and Jailhouse Rap.

Yeah but you know how ignorant some are. I'll post the Fat Boys Unsung episode later. It's hilarious how they were judged harshly after "Wipeout".

Timmy84 said:

MickyDolenz said:

I don't care about any "street cred", what does that got to do with anything? It doesn't sell records. It's like those perfromers that only music critics like, but not many people has heard of and are obscure. It's not like the Fat Boys were some hardcore, underground group in the 1st place. They made songs about food like All You Can Eat and Jailhouse Rap.

Yeah but you know how ignorant some are. I'll post the Fat Boys Unsung episode later. It's hilarious how they were judged harshly after "Wipeout".

"Street cred" is just the hood version of a music snob. People used to say that Michael Jackson, Lionel Richie, Prince, Luther Vandross, etc, sold out to white audiences by making music designed to crossover and abandoned their original "real R&B", soul, funk, or whatever. So by doing this, they're ignoring their black audience who supported them in the beginning when whites weren't interested. Acts like Whitney Houston, Young MC, and Jazzy Jeff & the Fresh Prince (and Bill Cosby in the acting field) were not considered "black" enough by some, but they're rich (well maybe not Young MC ). People think a performer should be broke and have "artistic integrity" or to "keep it real" or "suffer for their art" when they work at jobs they don't like and wouldn't do if they had a choice. So they're "selling out" just the same.

MickyDolenz said:

Timmy84 said:

Easy for you, you're a guy that don't discriminate within your own community. Glad you weren't brought up in the streets because SOME have that mentality that if you did this, you "sold out".

I don't care about any "street cred", what does that got to do with anything? It doesn't sell records. It's like those perfromers that only music critics like, but not many people has heard of and are obscure. It's not like the Fat Boys were some hardcore, underground group in the 1st place. They made songs about food like All You Can Eat and Jailhouse Rap.

Rap is the genre created from the streets and it's a lot older that hip-hop culture itself.

Timmy84 said:

MickyDolenz said:

I don't care about any "street cred", what does that got to do with anything? It doesn't sell records. It's like those perfromers that only music critics like, but not many people has heard of and are obscure. It's not like the Fat Boys were some hardcore, underground group in the 1st place. They made songs about food like All You Can Eat and Jailhouse Rap.

Yeah but you know how ignorant some are. I'll post the Fat Boys Unsung episode later. It's hilarious how they were judged harshly after "Wipeout".

It was because people thought they "abandoned" the rap market because this is not how they were in the beginning. Just as much as when Musical Youth did all that new wave pop junk after leaving their original reggae joints...their original core base was not intrested in hearing that mess.

I liked this video only because Prince Markie Dee was barefoot in it but the song was corny, Im sorry I just could do without the Beach Boys sample. In thus it made their rap game alot more comedic than it was in the first place. It was funny..but this was kind of almost like a parody. They just got too commercial.

paisleypark4 said:

Im sorry I just could do without the Beach Boys sample.

It's not a sample, The Beach Boys actually sing on it and that's why they're in the video. The original Wipeout is an instrumental song by the Surfaris.

MickyDolenz said:

paisleypark4 said:

Im sorry I just could do without the Beach Boys sample.

It's not a sample, The Beach Boys actually sing on it and that's why they're in the video. The original Wipeout is an instrumental song by the Surfaris.

aint that some shit

I remember the 12 Inch version being a favorite in clubs that year. I never heard anyone downing the song until hip hop became shit hop (slow rap with just a damn slow weak sounding beat with some "talking" on top of it). Now yeah, when shit hop took over, I heard people down the song. But of course, the shit hoppers downed anything that was fast and fun because they don't believe in "fun". They believe in "reality" and violence. If you don't believe me, then just look at how they down Dr. Dre when he was with the World Class Wrecking Crew making fast and fun music with a glam look but they praise him after he started making that slow dull shit and started looking like a damn thug idiot.

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