George on all things must pass is my favorite solo beatle

I like John but he get so annoying with his hippy peace loving shit. Least Paul didnt take himself too seriously.

lazycrockett said:

I like John but he get so annoying with his hippy peace loving shit. Least Paul didnt take himself too seriously.

I don't dislike the peace loving bag he got on, but it seemed he became more invested into shock value just for the sake of in his later years - I.E. Woman Is The Nigger of The World.

Those type of songs didn't sound sincere coming from him.

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I always loved this tune from George!

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paligap said:

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In this case and IMO, the Whole was much better than the sum of its parts--I still love the Beatles stuff , along with George Martin's production much more than anything any of them did on their own--- Although I do like PlasticOno Band and Band on the Run....

But actually, for solo stuff I think I'm more a McCartney Fan (I know I'm dodging bricks now )

because I never heard solo Lennon pull off something this inside- funky, :

Paul McCartney - Arrow Through Me

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I don't know about "inside-funky" but when you say funk and ex-Beatles I can't help thinking of how James Brown completely ripped off John Lennon's "Fame" for "Hot (I Need To Be Loved, Loved, Loved)." John must have had some connection to the funk if he had James Brown nicking his song.

rialb said:

paligap said:

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In this case and IMO, the Whole was much better than the sum of its parts--I still love the Beatles stuff , along with George Martin's production much more than anything any of them did on their own--- Although I do like PlasticOno Band and Band on the Run....

But actually, for solo stuff I think I'm more a McCartney Fan (I know I'm dodging bricks now )

because I never heard solo Lennon pull off something this inside- funky, :

Paul McCartney - Arrow Through Me

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I don't know about "inside-funky" but when you say funk and ex-Beatles I can't help thinking of how James Brown completely ripped off John Lennon's "Fame" for "Hot (I Need To Be Loved, Loved, Loved)." John must have had some connection to the funk if he had James Brown nicking his song.

True--That was a blatant rip off, and James should've been ashamed of that , ! But although it was a collaboration, it was David Bowie's guitarist Carlos Alomar, that came up with the signature rhythm for the song....

From the Wiki entry:

a new song called "Fame", inspired by a guitar riff written by Carlos Alomar and with the title from Lennon, was then hurriedly developed by Bowie, and recorded. Both tracks were then added to the Young Americans album. Despite having only a minor contribution, Lennon was given a co-writing credit due to the lyrics (bemoaning the nature of celebrity) being inspired by conversations he had with Bowie on the subject, and because Bowie acknowledged that Lennon singing "Fame!" over Alomar’s guitar riff was the catalyst for the song. The songwriting credit list order is David Bowie, Carlos Alomar, and John Lennon. Lennon's voice is also heard singing the repeated words "FAME, FAME, FAME" with his voice heard at a fast, normal, and slow playback speeds, until Bowie's voice is heard singing the final lyrics of the song before the fade.

Lennon certainly wrote great songs, to be sure, that'll probably be remembered forever.... I was just saying that he wasn't a Groove kinda guy, that's all....

BTW, Carlos Alomar was a Neighborhood friend of Luther Vandross, which probably explains how Luther ended up touring with Bowie....

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lazycrockett said:

I like John but he get so annoying with his hippy peace loving shit. Least Paul didnt take himself too seriously.

Like hell!

Paul damn nearly renewed his bitter feud with Yoko Ono in recent years because Paul wanted to reverse the Lennon McCartney songwriting credits to McCartney Lennon on some Beatles songs despite that the letter L does come before the letter M. Even when John was still alive, Paul was always a little jealous when fans AND critics were given John (too much?!?) credit for having a more superior "rock & roll persona" than the "very pop" Paul ever did.

"Paul didn't take himself too seriously"........my ass!

^I meant musically.

Thibaut said:

George on all things must pass is my favorite solo beatle

Ask this question a few decades from now, after all the Beatles have gone. I think you'll get a different answer. Paul has issued so much and a lot of it has been totally ignored, whereas John's output was cut short and so we have to closely scrutinize what little we have.

This is coming from someone who has always idolized John and bought all of John's solo albums before even listening to Paul's. Plus I have the Lennon remixes and the Signature Box.

This will sound weird but, IN The Beatles Paul is my fav but solo wise Lennon hand's down

Then George then Ringo sorry Ringo

jillybean said:

Shouldn't the quality of all of Paul's funky and/or rocking post-Beatles stuff be negated by "(Simply Having) A Wonderful Christmas Time"? Just kidding.

i truly believe they all needed each other.

Nvncible1 said:

i truly believe they all needed each other.

Ringo needed the other three, that's for damn sure.

rialb said:

Nvncible1 said:

i truly believe they all needed each other.

Ringo needed the other three, that's for damn sure.

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Nvncible1 said:

i truly believe they all needed each other.

Yeah parts of them got lost when they were apart. They were definitely better together. I think Paul said something about "we were one fucking great band".

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Lol no prob.

UncleGrandpa said:

Billy Preston.

WORD!

rialb said:

Nvncible1 said:

i truly believe they all needed each other.

Ringo needed the other three, that's for damn sure.

so much hate for the ringo, hee hee... i like ringo!

MJJstudent said:

rialb said:

Ringo needed the other three, that's for damn sure.

so much hate for the ringo, hee hee... i like ringo!

I don't hate Ringo in the slightest but he was one of the luckiest men in the world to land that gig. If he hadn't have been a Beatle can you imagine him being a successful musician? I forget who first said it but he wasn't even the best drummer in the Beatles (Paul was).

I think they are both so completely overrated as solo artists. If you were to survey the general public to name Paul McCartney solo work, the only answer you would get is the frog song. Not to take anything away from what either of them achieved with The Beatles.

I prefer Georges solo work, but as a whole, I think they were all very hit and miss as solo artists. Some of Lennons stuff was just terrible.

John.

rialb said:

MJJstudent said:

so much hate for the ringo, hee hee... i like ringo!

I don't hate Ringo in the slightest but he was one of the luckiest men in the world to land that gig. If he hadn't have been a Beatle can you imagine him being a successful musician? I forget who first said it but he wasn't even the best drummer in the Beatles (Paul was).

i don't know... he may have made it more in comedy, perhaps? he used to hang out with vivian stansall and keith moon... no, ringo's not the best drummer but i have certainly heard worse. i don't think the chick from the white stripes is good at all, but people love her... i think ringo is way better than her.

and i have a soft spot in my heart for bad singing, so i love ringo for that too...

but here's the cavern performance of the beatles... this is actually pretty cool. i like this stuff, more than when they got big with 'the white album' and 'sgt. pepper' and all that.

and the RUTLES version... yes, i do love the rutles. i've always liked them so much more than the beatles, funny enough. cheese and onions and such.

and here's one of many bands who maintained the spirit of the beatles when they first began... the silver beatles and such. i love this band.

even though i like ringo... the beatles were much better when best was in the band... i actually like ringo better as a drummer (he's much cleaner than best), but collectively, i don't like the beatles later on (there's something TOO clean about it), and i like their sound when best was there. i just love how unpolished they were. i'd love to hear some kind of jazz duet between charlie watts and ringo.

and i actually really like the 'hard day's night' movie... (a. because it was ultimately a movie about ringo, and (b. the cinematography (by gilbert taylor) is phenomenal.

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Most of the songs that Ringo ended up singing I quite like. He isn't the best singer but there's an everyman quality about him that I think a lot of people liked. But at the same time if you took Ringo and all of his contributions out of the band would anything really have been different? I just think that the other three really forged the band into what it was in the years before Ringo joined when they were playing small clubs in Liverpool and Hamburg. They worked their asses off together for years and Ringo kind of swooped in just before they started to have some success.

I believe that as a personality he was probably a valuable asset, he was probably the most easygoing of the four and it's always nice to have someone like that around, but as far as his contributions to their music I'm not convinced that he was integral. Even George, who didn't really start writing good songs until Rubber Soul/Revolver, was a factor in the vocal harmonies and with his guitar playing but I always got the sense that Ringo just went along for the ride and was happy to do so.

Then again maybe I am just prejudiced against drummers.

rialb said:

Most of the songs that Ringo ended up singing I quite like. He isn't the best singer but there's an everyman quality about him that I think a lot of people liked. But at the same time if you took Ringo and all of his contributions out of the band would anything really have been different? I just think that the other three really forged the band into what it was in the years before Ringo joined when they were playing small clubs in Liverpool and Hamburg. They worked their asses off together for years and Ringo kind of swooped in just before they started to have some success.

I believe that as a personality he was probably a valuable asset, he was probably the most easygoing of the four and it's always nice to have someone like that around, but as far as his contributions to their music I'm not convinced that he was integral. Even George, who didn't really start writing good songs until Rubber Soul/Revolver, was a factor in the vocal harmonies and with his guitar playing but I always got the sense that Ringo just went along for the ride and was happy to do so.

Then again maybe I am just prejudiced against drummers.

you may be right... but ringo is still my favourite beatle!! hee hee...