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Ashley Judd blasts P Diddy and Snoop Dogg over “soundtrack of misogyny”

Actress Ashley Judd has slammed hip-hop artists P Diddy and Snoop Dogg in her new memoir.

In the book, All That Is Bitter And Sweet, the Ruby In Paradise star, who was sexually abused as a child, talks about her work as an ambassador for the YouthAids – an awareness campaign, which is also supported by the two rappers.

"Along with other performers, YouthAids was supported by rap and hip-hop artists like Snoop Dogg and P Diddy to spread the message," Judd writes.

"Those names were a red flag. As far as I'm concerned, most rap and hip-hop music – with its rape culture and insanely abusive lyrics and depictions of girls and women as 'ho’s' – is the contemporary soundtrack of misogyny.”

She continues: "I believe that the social construction of gender – the cultural beliefs and practices that divide the sexes and institutionalise and normalise the unequal treatment of girls and women, privilege the interests of boys and men, and, most nefariously, incessantly sexualise girls and women – is the root cause of poverty and suffering around the world.”

Speaking on US TV show The View earlier today, the 42-year-old Crossing Over star told host Whoopi Goldberg that the “shame” of sexual abuse needs to be placed on the perpetrator instead of the victim.

"I know the shame," she said. "We keep it to ourselves in a secretive thing and we all need the courage to undo it. That's one of the things I learned in recovery."

bboy87 said:

She continues: "I believe that the social construction of gender – the cultural beliefs and practices that divide the sexes and institutionalise and normalise the unequal treatment of girls and women, privilege the interests of boys and men, and, most nefariously, incessantly sexualise girls and women – is the root cause of poverty and suffering around the world.”

[Edited 4/8/11 6:48am]

She may have a point but...I don't know.....at this point,it seems a little too late to be dissing hip-hop.Yes,much of that music is misogynist and sexist but who really cares anymore? Her argument is soooooo 1988 (lol).If you don't like something,just don't listen to it.

Wow, I forgot that this hot & gorgeous woman still exists. Is she still doing movies or something?

she's on point though, many rappers are mysoginistic freaks, but that's hardly new information, right??

hard-rock and gangsta rap are basically about money, power, girls and ego... I thought that was pretty clear... we all need some bullshit. I enjoy many nasty lyrics of acts like Motley Crue or Snoop but that doesn't mean I'm gonna treat women like objects/shit...

Her sister and mother sing country music, which is not exactly holy and pure or always positive to women.

I agree with her. Doesn't make me like Death Certificate or Doggystyle any less though.

Her statements wreaks of self-righteousness but I'd so smash. Always thought her beauty was overlooked in Hollywood.

Oh, although Hip Hop is guilty of much, I don't recall any "rape culture."

While I do agree that there is a lot misogyny in the lyrics, because that is what sells, the problem that arises is that does art reflect life or does life reflect art? Hip hop, itself, has become a huge culture, not only in the African American community, but all over the world. Yet, to generalize it as a 'rape culture' or to single it out as such really upsets me. Like, I'm sorry for what happened to her, but, imo, she comes off as a big asshole for her comments.

Also, while in a perfect world it would be great for the perpetrators to be held more accountable for their actions, like in that recent case of all those guys who raped that girl was like 11-12 years old in that Texan town. Yet, what about those who are wrongly/falsely accused and then treated the same as the guilty forever? What about those victims? Is it fair for them to suffer as much as the guilty? Is it fair to let those that wrongly/falsely accused them to run off scott free? You can't because if you start putting them in jail (which they have actually) then you scare actual victims from reporting anything, especially if there's not a lot of proof.

Or let's say that in reality someone wants to write a song about some girl being hoe. Should they have to censor themselves, because it upsets someone? Too bad. I don't like it when people use racial slurs to refer to any kind of person. I don't like it when people make 'Fuck yeah America' songs as if being complete assholes are ok, b/c you're from America. But you know what? That's the artists' business. As an individual I have the power to choose what I want to listen and ignore whatever I don't want to. It's as simple as that.

http://theblemish.com/201...-arrogant/

Jason Patric might not be that big of an Ashley Judd fan but he might also be scared of her because it took him eight years to start trashing Ashley. The two costarred in the 2003 Broadway revival of Cat on a Hot Tin Roof but only recently while talking to Entertainment Weekly did Patric call Ashley Judd “lazy, selfish and arrogant.

P Diddy and Snoop Dogg simply made music that reflected their world and experiences. There were many other force$ at work that proliferated the "gangsta" or mysonginist attitude toward life and women. This critical perspective was adopted in a superficial manner by a pop crowd that was looking to be hip, and spread the shit like shit gets spread -everywhere. Mis(take) Judd doesn't now what the hell she is talking about at the end of the day. Judd's perspective is short sided and exceptionally self serving. She is seeking to validate her agenda of personal empowerment. I like the Judd family and their music in general, but I really don't care to hear another story from their redemption trail. Fucking do the personal work on your own and stop trying to "empower" young women and girls by telling your story from every mountaintop and Oprah-top, cause it is not helping anyone at the end of the day when you buy into a superficial party line that is innacurate.

allsmutaside said:

http://theblemish.com/201...-arrogant/

Jason Patric might not be that big of an Ashley Judd fan but he might also be scared of her because it took him eight years to start trashing Ashley. The two costarred in the 2003 Broadway revival of Cat on a Hot Tin Roof but only recently while talking to Entertainment Weekly did Patric call Ashley Judd “lazy, selfish and arrogant.

P Diddy and Snoop Dogg simply made music that reflected their world and experiences. There were many other force$ at work that proliferated the "gangsta" or mysonginist attitude toward life and women. This critical perspective was adopted in a superficial manner by a pop crowd that was looking to be hip, and spread the shit like shit gets spread -everywhere. Mis(take) Judd doesn't now what the hell she is talking about at the end of the day. Judd's perspective is short sided and exceptionally self serving. She is seeking to validate her agenda of personal empowerment. I like the Judd family and their music in general, but I really don't care to hear another story from their redemption trail. Fucking do the personal work on your own and stop trying to "empower" young women and girls by telling your story from every mountaintop and Oprah-top, cause it is not helping anyone at the end of the day when you buy into a superficial party line that is innacurate.

allsmutaside said:

http://theblemish.com/201...-arrogant/

Jason Patric might not be that big of an Ashley Judd fan but he might also be scared of her because it took him eight years to start trashing Ashley. The two costarred in the 2003 Broadway revival of Cat on a Hot Tin Roof but only recently while talking to Entertainment Weekly did Patric call Ashley Judd “lazy, selfish and arrogant.

P Diddy and Snoop Dogg simply made music that reflected their world and experiences. There were many other force$ at work that proliferated the "gangsta" or mysonginist attitude toward life and women. This critical perspective was adopted in a superficial manner by a pop crowd that was looking to be hip, and spread the shit like shit gets spread -everywhere. Mis(take) Judd doesn't now what the hell she is talking about at the end of the day. Judd's perspective is short sided and exceptionally self serving. She is seeking to validate her agenda of personal empowerment. I like the Judd family and their music in general, but I really don't care to hear another story from their redemption trail. Fucking do the personal work on your own and stop trying to "empower" young women and girls by telling your story from every mountaintop and Oprah-top, cause it is not helping anyone at the end of the day when you buy into a superficial party line that is innacurate.

allsmutaside said:

http://theblemish.com/201...-arrogant/

Jason Patric might not be that big of an Ashley Judd fan but he might also be scared of her because it took him eight years to start trashing Ashley. The two costarred in the 2003 Broadway revival of Cat on a Hot Tin Roof but only recently while talking to Entertainment Weekly did Patric call Ashley Judd “lazy, selfish and arrogant.

P Diddy and Snoop Dogg simply made music that reflected their world and experiences. There were many other force$ at work that proliferated the "gangsta" or mysonginist attitude toward life and women. This critical perspective was adopted in a superficial manner by a pop crowd that was looking to be hip, and spread the shit like shit gets spread -everywhere. Mis(take) Judd doesn't now what the hell she is talking about at the end of the day. Judd's perspective is short sided and exceptionally self serving. She is seeking to validate her agenda of personal empowerment. I like the Judd family and their music in general, but I really don't care to hear another story from their redemption trail. Fucking do the personal work on your own and stop trying to "empower" young women and girls by telling your story from every mountaintop and Oprah-top, cause it is not helping anyone at the end of the day when you buy into a superficial party line that is innacurate.

Reading this, I can hear the lady who used to be in the studio audience of the show Good Times yelling "RIGHT OOOON!!!!"

I certainly see where she is coming from, but it's more just a reaction to a certain style than a real understanding of the style. I can't recall snoop & diddy promoting rape.

It's like watching a few minutes of Goodfellas and saying "This director promotes murder, stealing and drug use!"

The real problem with hip hop is not a little bit of rated R content, but the fact that snoop & co changed music so much that now everyone's a hustler, everyone's a pimp...

They made the culture appear one-dimensional, and hip hop has grown large enough that it no longer just reflects the culture, it influences it.

allsmutaside said:

http://theblemish.com/201...-arrogant/

Jason Patric might not be that big of an Ashley Judd fan but he might also be scared of her because it took him eight years to start trashing Ashley. The two costarred in the 2003 Broadway revival of Cat on a Hot Tin Roof but only recently while talking to Entertainment Weekly did Patric call Ashley Judd “lazy, selfish and arrogant.

P Diddy and Snoop Dogg simply made music that reflected their world and experiences. There were many other force$ at work that proliferated the "gangsta" or mysonginist attitude toward life and women. This critical perspective was adopted in a superficial manner by a pop crowd that was looking to be hip, and spread the shit like shit gets spread -everywhere. Mis(take) Judd doesn't now what the hell she is talking about at the end of the day. Judd's perspective is short sided and exceptionally self serving. She is seeking to validate her agenda of personal empowerment. I like the Judd family and their music in general, but I really don't care to hear another story from their redemption trail. Fucking do the personal work on your own and stop trying to "empower" young women and girls by telling your story from every mountaintop and Oprah-top, cause it is not helping anyone at the end of the day when you buy into a superficial party line that is innacurate.

::Cues organ::

Yeah, I don't get her saying it's 'rape culture', either. Not saying I'm a rap expert, but I've heard a shitload, a lot of it stuff by Diddy and Snoop Dogg, and I've never heard either one of them condone or encourage rape. I actually think she owes them an apology for saying something that fucked up when apparently she never even listened to their music and doesn't have her facts straight.

It's weird too to me that they're both members of a charity with her and they're trying to help people and do good things and she can't even see that - she's so busy talking shit about their music.

I've always liked all the Judds (Wynona especially), but Ashley's statement is lame.

I'm actually glad Miss Judd is getting ridicule for her comments. The music itself does not promote rape. When you make a generalizating of a culture don't be shocked if you get called out on your bullshit. In this case Jason Patric's got her number.

allsmutaside said:

http://theblemish.com/201...-arrogant/

Jason Patric might not be that big of an Ashley Judd fan but he might also be scared of her because it took him eight years to start trashing Ashley. The two costarred in the 2003 Broadway revival of Cat on a Hot Tin Roof but only recently while talking to Entertainment Weekly did Patric call Ashley Judd “lazy, selfish and arrogant.

the writing on that web site is terrible!

NDRU said:

I certainly see where she is coming from, but it's more just a reaction to a certain style than a real understanding of the style. I can't recall snoop & diddy promoting rape.

It's like watching a few minutes of Goodfellas and saying "This director promotes murder, stealing and drug use!"

The real problem with hip hop is not a little bit of rated R content, but the fact that snoop & co changed music so much that now everyone's a hustler, everyone's a pimp...

They made the culture appear one-dimensional, and hip hop has grown large enough that it no longer just reflects the culture, it influences it.

I like your insightful writing and turned phrase a lot, but at the end of the day I think it was the people making big money off of snoop who changed music so much that now everyone's a hustler...

They made the culture appear one-dimensional, and hip hop has grown large enough that it no longer just reflects the culture, it influences it. Yeah that! They were making money with the formula and just kept goning down the path, influenced by record labels who were making the real big money. And then, against all precedent, Hip Hop/Rap was influencing culture like noboby's business. "Memories past but not forgotten / The dye is cast - Soon ripe - Soon rotten!"

NDRU said:

allsmutaside said:

http://theblemish.com/201...-arrogant/

Jason Patric might not be that big of an Ashley Judd fan but he might also be scared of her because it took him eight years to start trashing Ashley. The two costarred in the 2003 Broadway revival of Cat on a Hot Tin Roof but only recently while talking to Entertainment Weekly did Patric call Ashley Judd “lazy, selfish and arrogant.

the writing on that web site is terrible!

Worse than that, under the story is the section "YOU MIGHT ALSO LIKE" followed by a picture with the title "Ashley Judd Was Sexually Abused." I get it they didn't mean it like that, but still.

armpit said:

Yeah, I don't get her saying it's 'rape culture', either. Not saying I'm a rap expert, but I've heard a shitload, a lot of it stuff by Diddy and Snoop Dogg, and I've never heard either one of them condone or encourage rape. I actually think she owes them an apology for saying something that fucked up when apparently she never even listened to their music and doesn't have her facts straight.

Agreed. Here she is making FALSE AND INACCURATE STATEMENTS. She needs to be a little more responsible about what comes out of her mouth, especially when she's fighting for such a cause already. She's is ignorant to the culture and music and talking shit about what she doesn't know. That is WRONG no matter how you cut it. I understand being against or not liking something, but if you don't know what you're talking about then do everyone a favor a STFU.

[Edited 4/8/11 11:33am]

^ Agreed x 2. Not a huge hip-hop fan...but "Rape Culture"?. That's a little intense.

Yeah I've never heard one single song about running a train on a girl.

allsmutaside said:

NDRU said:

I certainly see where she is coming from, but it's more just a reaction to a certain style than a real understanding of the style. I can't recall snoop & diddy promoting rape.

It's like watching a few minutes of Goodfellas and saying "This director promotes murder, stealing and drug use!"

The real problem with hip hop is not a little bit of rated R content, but the fact that snoop & co changed music so much that now everyone's a hustler, everyone's a pimp...

They made the culture appear one-dimensional, and hip hop has grown large enough that it no longer just reflects the culture, it influences it.

I like your insightful writing and turned phrase a lot, but at the end of the day I think it was the people making big money off of snoop who changed music so much that now everyone's a hustler...

They made the culture appear one-dimensional, and hip hop has grown large enough that it no longer just reflects the culture, it influences it. Yeah that! They were making money with the formula and just kept goning down the path, influenced by record labels who were making the real big money. And then, against all precedent, Hip Hop/Rap was influencing culture like noboby's business. "Memories past but not forgotten / The dye is cast - Soon ripe - Soon rotten!"

true, without the lables to push it, that genre of music might have stayed underground (IMO this may have been better). But someone smelled money, and the rest is history

Spinlight said:

Yeah I've never heard one single song about running a train on a girl.

Spinlight said:

Yeah I've never heard one single song about running a train on a girl.

I hope you're being sarcastic. No one saying that Hip Hop is completely innocent of misogyny. What I and maybe others are saying is that the "rape culture" charge in completely wrong. And it makes her sound detached from the reality of the music. I mean, I don't recall a history of rappers endorsing rape or bragging about they raped a girl/s on a record.

Musicslave said:

Spinlight said:

Yeah I've never heard one single song about running a train on a girl.

I hope you're being sarcastic. No one saying that Hip Hop is completely innocent of misogyny. What I and maybe others are saying is that the "rape culture" charge in completely wrong. And it makes her sound detached from the reality of the music. I mean, I don't recall a history of rappers endorsing rape or bragging about they raped a girl/s on a record.

Yeah. No doubt some rappers are VERY misogynistic though and sometimes hateful on women. I doubt no one would buy a record with a rape lyric in it. But it's kinda hypocritical to buy albums that feature hateful comments about women.

Musicslave said:

Spinlight said:

Yeah I've never heard one single song about running a train on a girl.

I hope you're being sarcastic. No one saying that Hip Hop is completely innocent of misogyny. What I and maybe others are saying is that the "rape culture" charge in completely wrong. And it makes her sound detached from the reality of the music. I mean, I don't recall a history of rappers endorsing rape or bragging about they raped a girl/s on a record.

my guess is she is not saying that the music specfically promotes rape but that it indirectly promotes it by de-valuing women and catering to the most base desires of men--that sex is less of an equal thing and more of a duty for women

BTW I am not endorsing what she says, this is just how I read it.

[Edited 4/8/11 12:45pm]

NDRU said:

Musicslave said:

I hope you're being sarcastic. No one saying that Hip Hop is completely innocent of misogyny. What I and maybe others are saying is that the "rape culture" charge in completely wrong. And it makes her sound detached from the reality of the music. I mean, I don't recall a history of rappers endorsing rape or bragging about they raped a girl/s on a record.

my guess is she is not saying that the music specfically promotes rape but that it indirectly promotes it by de-valuing women and catering to the most base desires of men--that sex is less of an equal thing and more of a duty for women

BTW I am not endorsing what she says, this is just how I read it.

[Edited 4/8/11 12:45pm]

May I add that 90% or more of the way women are portrayed in rap videos makes them look less then human and more like objects because of the way they are "(un)dressed"the way they are grinding like ...., and what is the message we are sending to our youths through these visuals?Are women worth of respect or are they just objects that anybody could dispose of?

A message is given not just through "raps" but most of it in non verbal , young people are bombarded by these ambiguos to say the least visual messages, and its just very hard to decodefy them , just because they are coming from tv most assume that these messages are acceptable.

Might I remind y'all that a song about a woman only wanting to (and being good for) suck some dick was a #1 song ("Lollipop" by Lil Wayne) and there was also a song about shooting cum all over a ho's back w/ that Soldier Boy song "Superman" or w/e.

Downplaying the intense misogyny of the hip hop culture is foolish, imo...