I beg to differ, "Shoot 'Em Up Movies" is the worst! That is the epitome of corny.

SoulAlive said:

TonyVanDam said:

Babyface's Whip Appeal was far worse than The Deele's Two Occasions.

Both of those songs are GREAT!

Don't get it twisted. I like Two Occasions despite that I don't listen to it much as I did in my teen years. But Whip Appeal will NEVER get played in my household. NEVER!!!

TonyVanDam said:

SoulAlive said:

Both of those songs are GREAT!

Don't get it twisted. I like Two Occasions despite that I don't listen to it much as I did in my teen years. But Whip Appeal will NEVER get played in my household. NEVER!!!

lol...my older sister and my mother played that song to death! They acted like it was the greatest song ever recorded!

Musicslave said:

I beg to differ, "Shoot 'Em Up Movies" is the worst! That is the epitome of corny.

And to think THAT^ was The Deele's swan song as what was one a good synth-funk band.

now wait a minute,guys....."Shoot Em Up Movies" is an excellent song! I think of it as a throwback to early 70s soul....the type of sound heard by groups like Blue Magic,the Intruders,The Delfonics,The Stylistics,etc.

SoulAlive said:

now wait a minute,guys....."Shoot Em Up Movies" is an excellent song! I think of it as a throwback to early 70s soul....the type of sound heard by groups like Blue Magic,the Intruders,The Delfonics,The Stylistics,etc.

I hear that influence in its sound but the song itself was always mad corny to me. Come on man, you know that song is super soft. Lyrically its softer than a marshmellow.

Musicslave said:

that song is super soft.

Like Paul McCartney says "What's wrong with that?" Why does a song have to have some cynical, hard, or deep message? I like happy songs.

deebee said:

rialb said:

Let me be clear, I am not defending Whitney or suggesting her music is good...

I'm tickled at the idea that anything that's not vociferously anti-Whitney sentiment has to be prefaced with the kind of qualification one has to make when making a point that could be misconstrued as voicing support for a notorious dictator or mass-murderer. (e.g. "Get it straight; I'm not defending Saddam, ok?? I'm just saying he was no worse than some of the other despots out there...", etc)

I'd do exactly the same, but thinking about it makes me chuckle.

IKR? People have the right to love Whitney. Just because Andy hates her don't mean we all do. I still like her lol

SoulAlive said:

TonyVanDam said:

Don't get it twisted. I like Two Occasions despite that I don't listen to it much as I did in my teen years. But Whip Appeal will NEVER get played in my household. NEVER!!!

lol...my older sister and my mother played that song to death! They acted like it was the greatest song ever recorded!

My dad kept playing that damn song over and over again as a kid... I wanted to go "NO NOT THIS SONG!" But you can't argue with parents so I let it go.

MF DOOM and Camp Lo had songs that sampled "Shoot 'Em Up Movies". I don't think that was a bad song though. Much better than "Two Occasions".

Of course here's the original:

MickyDolenz said:

Musicslave said:

that song is super soft.

Like Paul McCartney says "What's wrong with that?" Why does a song have to have some cynical, hard, or deep message? I like happy songs.

I like a good happy song too, I just don't like corny songs. Let me put it this way, a good love song or ballad can be romantic without being corny.

Oh, and as much as I respect Paul and his work, he's probably the King of Charmin

Musicslave said:

MickyDolenz said:

Like Paul McCartney says "What's wrong with that?" Why does a song have to have some cynical, hard, or deep message? I like happy songs.

I like a good happy song too, I just don't like corny songs. Let me put it this way, a good love song or ballad can be romantic without being corny.

Oh, and as much as I respect Paul and his work, he's probably the King of Charmin

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Timmy84 said:

deebee said:

I'm tickled at the idea that anything that's not vociferously anti-Whitney sentiment has to be prefaced with the kind of qualification one has to make when making a point that could be misconstrued as voicing support for a notorious dictator or mass-murderer. (e.g. "Get it straight; I'm not defending Saddam, ok?? I'm just saying he was no worse than some of the other despots out there...", etc)

I'd do exactly the same, but thinking about it makes me chuckle.

IKR? People have the right to love Whitney. Just because Andy hates her don't mean we all do. I still like her lol

Lol.. Round these parts, I can hear people saying, "I dunno.... Saddam, maybe... but Whitney??"

deebee said:

Timmy84 said:

IKR? People have the right to love Whitney. Just because Andy hates her don't mean we all do. I still like her lol

Lol.. Round these parts, I can hear people saying, "I dunno.... Saddam, maybe... but Whitney??"

Timmy84 said:

Musicslave said:

I like a good happy song too, I just don't like corny songs. Let me put it this way, a good love song or ballad can be romantic without being corny.

Oh, and as much as I respect Paul and his work, he's probably the King of Charmin

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Timmy84 said:

therevolutionwillnotbe said:

Clive Davis is full of himself and knows how to spin a story. And I don't trust anybody that ties a sweater around their shoulders (L.A. Reid). Anyway...nice label-approved puff piece. Whitney, in terms of popularity and crossover, wasn't doing anything her cousin Dionne hadn't done 20 years earlier.

Right. Dionne never gets her full props. Fuck that old man lol

Both of those statements have full smut endorsement. Love D. I would like to roll one up with the Lady and rub her feet out by the pool for a while.

TonyVanDam said:

scriptgirl said:

Andy is right. That is one of the worst songs ever

Babyface's Whip Appeal was far worse than The Deele's Two Occasions.

Yes it most definately was. "Whip Appeal" was absolutely horrible. "Super Woman" by Karyn White was even worse. Dull, dull, dull.....depressing, depressing, depressing.

minneapolisFunq said:

That The Deele album had a couple of jams on it though.

Yes it did. "Can U Dance" and "Hip Chic" were great.

SoulAlive said:

now wait a minute,guys....."Shoot Em Up Movies" is an excellent song! I think of it as a throwback to early 70s soul....the type of sound heard by groups like Blue Magic,the Intruders,The Delfonics,The Stylistics,etc.

I've always liked "Shoot Em Up Movies" for that very reason because it does have a 1970s feel to it. But "Two Occassions" has that dull ass late 1980s adult contemporary feel to it.

Harlepolis said:

Andy is the devil. To have this influence on ya'll? I gotta tip my hat off to this bitch

NEGATIVE impact

next, please

Timmy84 said:

deebee said:

I'm tickled at the idea that anything that's not vociferously anti-Whitney sentiment has to be prefaced with the kind of qualification one has to make when making a point that could be misconstrued as voicing support for a notorious dictator or mass-murderer. (e.g. "Get it straight; I'm not defending Saddam, ok?? I'm just saying he was no worse than some of the other despots out there...", etc)

I'd do exactly the same, but thinking about it makes me chuckle.

IKR? People have the right to love Whitney. Just because Andy hates her don't mean we all do. I still like her lol

Hey, I don't have any influence over anybody. If I did, she would have never sold one record. We would still be throwing down hard and she would have been somewhere in a pink Barbie corvette wearing a damn cheerleader outfit picking petals off a flower wondering about the football captain......

If he loves me.....if he loves me not......

JoeTyler said:

NEGATIVE impact

next, please

Uh.....you mean positive impact. If she had been something negative like a slut or a whore, I would have LOVED her.

Timmy84 said:

deebee said:

I'm tickled at the idea that anything that's not vociferously anti-Whitney sentiment has to be prefaced with the kind of qualification one has to make when making a point that could be misconstrued as voicing support for a notorious dictator or mass-murderer. (e.g. "Get it straight; I'm not defending Saddam, ok?? I'm just saying he was no worse than some of the other despots out there...", etc)

I'd do exactly the same, but thinking about it makes me chuckle.

IKR? People have the right to love Whitney. Just because Andy hates her don't mean we all do. I still like her lol

vainandy said:

JoeTyler said:

NEGATIVE impact

next, please

Uh.....you mean positive impact. If she had been something negative like a slut or a whore, I would have LOVED her.

well, she was a nasty crackhead in the late-90s/early-00s

punishment???

JoeTyler said:

vainandy said:

Uh.....you mean positive impact. If she had been something negative like a slut or a whore, I would have LOVED her.

well, she was a nasty crackhead in the late-90s/early-00s

punishment???

Damn right. When she got booed at the "Soul Train" awards, she figured she would change her image, get on crack, get with Rick James and make some funk. However, Rick was on his way to prison so she got with Bobby Brown instead. Things didn't work out though because he couldn't put no funk in her either. He's the one that ended up getting burned though because she burned all the funk out of him.

She finally got her chance to be funky though. In the 2000s when she was sharing an apartment with Cherrelle, smoking crack, and stayed in her bedroom for days using an unwashed vibrator for days and weeks at a time. She was so funky the alley cats were lined up outside her bedroom door.

I don't like Whitney nor do I like Heavy Metal, New Age or care to listen to classical tunes (yet, with age anything is possible). However, I would never dismiss others musical taste or be so arrogant enough to declare that the sole purpose of music is to "move ones ass". It's cute rhetoric and makes for humorous posts here on the org but it's too elementary to take seriously.

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sosgemini said:

I don't like Whitney nor do I like Heavy Metal, New Age or care to listen to classical tunes (yet, with age anything is possible). However, I would never dismiss others musical taste or be so arrogant enough to declare that the sole purpose of music is to "move ones ass". It's cute rhetoric and makes for humorous posts here on the org but it's too elementary to take seriously.

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Off topic but I like heavy metal lol

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TonyVanDam said:

vainandy said:

And just what the hell have I been saying about her since 1985? The same damn thing.

"They watered it way down for a pop audience"....

"They shopped around and gave her records to pop stations from day one which was unheard of for R&B artists at the time"....

I've said similar shit since day one when that little goodie two shoes first came on the scene. And just look at one of the artists that said they absolutely wanted to be her when they were growing up...somebody from Destiny's Child, a group that ain't got the first damn jam and Brandy has said that she idolized her too and look how weak her music is also. Nobody funky has said how much they idolized her. But then again, nobody funky continued to exist much longer after she brought her little weak ass onto the scene either. Certainly no one that would have been young enough to completely grow up on her music their whole life.

And look who she runs to after she gets booed for not being "black enough", LA and Babyface who were a much weaker version of Jam and Lewis. And then they even had the nerve to brag about how weak their music was.....

"From around 1981 until the time that LA and Babyface came out, R&B music was rough and rugged but they smoothed it out. Tap on the drums lightly, make it smoother. They turned it into an upscale upper class type of music".....

Hell, that's not a good thing, that's a horrible thing because rough and rugged is what music should be, not some little weak bitch ass sissified music for folks to put on airs like their shit don't stink. Fuck all that damn la-de-da shit, get down and funky. No, LA and Babyface's type of music, especially Babyface's type of music, would not have gone over well in the early 1980s before Shitney Ass Houston brought her weak ass on the scene. The Deele could throwdown but most, if not all of Babyface's productions after he left the group were absolutely weak and horrible, especially the ones in the 1990s.

Lord, those two videos done pissed me off because I have said the same shit for years. The only difference is, the weak asses in those videos think her changing music was a good thing. Weak tasted sissies, I tell ya.

TRANSLATION: According the Vainandy, The Deele's downfall was due to THIS..........

Hell yes.