Timmy84 said:

Can anyone really call it a downlow if the guy is not married or doesn't have a girlfriend?

It's still "downlow" because DJ Mister Cee was trying very hard to hide his attraction for gay men & transgenders from the very circle of homophobic straight people who's careers he was helping from the very beginning.

Think about it. Do you really think Big Daddy Kane OR the Notorious B.I.G. would want to have anything to do with Cee if they knew years earlier that he wasn't straight and he was in to men & trangenders?!?

Speaking of which, I don't know much about Sean Combs, but is he part of that crew of DL? It wouldn't make him a better or worse person, but it would explain a lot.

TonyVanDam said:

Timmy84 said:

Can anyone really call it a downlow if the guy is not married or doesn't have a girlfriend?

It's still "downlow" because DJ Mister Cee was trying very hard to hide his attraction for gay men & transgenders from the very circle of homophobic straight people who's careers he was helping from the very beginning.

Think about it. Do you really think Big Daddy Kane OR the Notorious B.I.G. would want to have anything to do with Cee if they knew years earlier that he wasn't straight and he was in to men & trangenders?!?

Of course not lol

Alasseon said:

Speaking of which, I don't know much about Sean Combs, but is he part of that crew of DL? It wouldn't make him a better or worse person, but it would explain a lot.

Wendy Williams, Professor Griff, & Xzibit have all confirmed that Sean Combs has been "playing on both side of the fence" on a down low for years. Most YouTube members know this already.

^ I'm sure Wendy would know...she blew his cover about 4 years ago.

The young man/woman looks alot like Miss Jay Alexander from Top model.

OMG!! I KNOW THIS GUY.

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edited for TMI, lol.

[Edited 4/6/11 7:16am]

Moonwalkbjrain said:

Just wanted to clear a couple of things up. Mister cee is a pretty big name in the hip hop wrold not just for his association with big and kane but. He's also one of the premier djs on hot 97 with his throwback @ noon show. I think he has a night show as well. I'm sure he's also worked significantly with other big names as well but I'm not deep enuff in to the man to know. So this man is far from poor or any of that. He's also one of the few mainstream radio djs that plays anything before 2000. Yea a lot of it is 90s but he throws a lot of 80s joints in there as well. Just wanted to add a little perspective on who this guy is since a lot of u seem pretty un aware. Also, idk if he is homophobic and none of us really know his views or such on the matter. I've never heard him make homophobic comments and for all we knew his homosoexuality or watev could very well be one of those industry secrets *like luther*. He's taking geting caught in stride because *as far as I know* he hasn't said anything on the matter one way or the other *shrug*. Just thought it would be good not to judge the man based on the industry he is in :/ u really never know.

Good points.

Moonwalkbjrain said:

^^^ thanks. Random post I came across on bossip. Biggies bestie was gay, mister cee has a wife and other musings by dream hampton. http://bossip.com/365936/...-gay30346/ I love her point abt not wanting this to turn into speculation on the mans sexuality but rather wanting to open up dialogue on the status and health of sex workers.

Interesting BIG's close friend was gay and that BIG obviously didn't care because that was still, as he put it so eloquently, "his niQQa".

Alasseon said:

Speaking of which, I don't know much about Sean Combs, but is he part of that crew of DL? It wouldn't make him a better or worse person, but it would explain a lot.

If nothing else, everything seems to point toward Diddy having a very specific "type" (...as do most of us, btw): DL Chubby Thugs, lol. Nearly every rapper Diddy has pulled under his "wing" has been that same "type". Baby-faced, fat cheeks, big eyes, chubby butts, slow-talking, DL Chubby Thugs, lol.

PDogz said:

Alasseon said:

Speaking of which, I don't know much about Sean Combs, but is he part of that crew of DL? It wouldn't make him a better or worse person, but it would explain a lot.

If nothing else, everything seems to point toward Diddy having a very specific "type" (...as do most of us, btw): DL Chubby Thugs, lol. Nearly every rapper Diddy has pulled under his "wing" has been that same "type". Baby-faced, fat cheeks, big eyes, chubby butts, slow-talking, DL Chubby Thugs, lol.

He wanted someone who look like BIG but was willing to suck dick?

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Timmy84 said:

PDogz said:

If nothing else, everything seems to point toward Diddy having a very specific "type" (...as do most of us, btw): DL Chubby Thugs, lol. Nearly every rapper Diddy has pulled under his "wing" has been that same "type". Baby-faced, fat cheeks, big eyes, chubby butts, slow-talking, DL Chubby Thugs, lol.

He wanted someone who look like BIG but was willing to suck dick?

Just suggesting that if Diddy indeed happened to have a sexual interest in men, it's easy to see what kind of guy he'd be attracted to.

PDogz said:

Timmy84 said:

He wanted someone who look like BIG but was willing to suck dick?

Just suggesting that if Diddy indeed happened to have a sexual interest in men, it's easy to see what kind of guy he'd be attracted to.

Yeah, Quincy for starters

lavender1983 said:

^ I'm sure Wendy would know...she blew his cover about 4 years ago.

Wendy sho look draggy sometimes!

Moonwalkbjrain said:

^^^ thanks. Random post I came across on bossip. Biggies bestie was gay, mister cee has a wife and other musings by dream hampton. http://bossip.com/365936/...-gay30346/ I love her point abt not wanting this to turn into speculation on the mans sexuality but rather wanting to open up dialogue on the status and health of sex workers.

Well then he's most definitely gay and on the DL! Shit, I had sympathy for the man but now that it appears he has a wife....fuck him!

Fiddy weighs in. I think I get what he's trying to say but then again....isn't this the same dude that likes to throw around the word fag on Twitter?

http://www.billboard.com/...4452.story

The hip-hop gossip mill went into overtime this past weekend when Mister Cee, a veteran hip-hop producer (Notorious B.I.G.'s "Ready To Die") and DJ at New York's Hot 97, was arrested for misdemeanor public lewdness and indecent exposure. According to a police report published by the Smoking Gun, Mister Cee (real name: Calvin Lebrun) was caught performing a sex act with a 20-year-old male in a car in Manhattan.

Although the news has surprised many -- and even resulted in some throwing homophobic slurs his way -- one of New York's biggest rappers, 50 Cent, is defending Mister Cee and saying that he would "make him my DJ any day."

"It's only entertaining because he means that much to hip-hop culture," 50 Cent tells Hot 97 personality Miss Info in an audio clip posted on her blog. "I recognize Mister Cee as the guy who offered us Biggie, so he means that much to the culture. And a lot of the kids that hear the radio don't see him the same way."

50 Cent says that he respects Mister Cee so much that he has played each of his full-length albums for the DJ before they were released. He also believes that the arrest shouldn't slow down Cee from doing what he does best.

"Who is to judge you when there's an audience -- that is probably one of the strongest audiences, if you look at Lady Gaga's career -- that says that that's fine?" says 50, speaking about the gay community. "If you say it's not fine, you're gonna get attacked. You're gonna write apology notes."

In her blog post, Miss Info writes that video of the 50 Cent interview is coming soon.

What do you think of 50 Cent's reaction to Mister Cee's arrest? Sound off in the comments.

HotGritz said:

lavender1983 said:

^ I'm sure Wendy would know...she blew his cover about 4 years ago.

Wendy sho look draggy sometimes!

Weeelllll...maybe that how she got the scoop...snooping around in her natural habitat....

Nah im playing, im playing...that's mean.. She's my girl.

lavender1983 said:

HotGritz said:

Wendy sho look draggy sometimes!

Weeelllll...maybe that how she got the scoop...snooping around in her natural habitat....

Nah im playing, im playing...that's mean.. She's my girl.

TOO LATE!!! Lordamighty that was funny! I'm cryin'..........

vainandy said:

sextonseven said:

Please add to the thread title: FOR VAINANDY

I'd really like to hear his opinion on this story.

You know I love to see motherfuckers like that busted out of the closet.

Why? I've never heard that Cee was some homophobic hypocrite.

Nevermind. I see your response to HOTGRITZ.

[Edited 4/6/11 17:25pm]

TonyVanDam said:

Timmy84 said:

Can anyone really call it a downlow if the guy is not married or doesn't have a girlfriend?

It's still "downlow" because DJ Mister Cee was trying very hard to hide his attraction for gay men & transgenders from the very circle of homophobic straight people who's careers he was helping from the very beginning.

Think about it. Do you really think Big Daddy Kane OR the Notorious B.I.G. would want to have anything to do with Cee if they knew years earlier that he wasn't straight and he was in to men & trangenders?!?

Given your definition, then, how is DL any different than simply being cloested? All sorts of gay men don't come out precisely because their circle is homophobic.

And, honestly, while associating with an out gay man in a professional setting might have been something Kane and Biggie wouldn't do, we've no reason to think they'd much care personally about dude's sexuality.

Lammastide said:

TonyVanDam said:

It's still "downlow" because DJ Mister Cee was trying very hard to hide his attraction for gay men & transgenders from the very circle of homophobic straight people who's careers he was helping from the very beginning.

Think about it. Do you really think Big Daddy Kane OR the Notorious B.I.G. would want to have anything to do with Cee if they knew years earlier that he wasn't straight and he was in to men & trangenders?!?

Given your definition, then, how is DL any different than simply being cloested? All sorts of gay men don't come out precisely because their circle is homophobic.

And, honestly, while associating with an out gay man in a professional setting might have been something Kane and Biggie wouldn't do, we've no reason to think they'd much care personally about dude's sexuality.

BIG surely didn't care since I found out one of his best friends was OPENLY gay.

HotGritz said:

Fiddy weighs in. I think I get what he's trying to say but then again....isn't this the same dude that likes to throw around the word fag on Twitter?

http://www.billboard.com/...4452.story

The hip-hop gossip mill went into overtime this past weekend when Mister Cee, a veteran hip-hop producer (Notorious B.I.G.'s "Ready To Die") and DJ at New York's Hot 97, was arrested for misdemeanor public lewdness and indecent exposure. According to a police report published by the Smoking Gun, Mister Cee (real name: Calvin Lebrun) was caught performing a sex act with a 20-year-old male in a car in Manhattan.

Although the news has surprised many -- and even resulted in some throwing homophobic slurs his way -- one of New York's biggest rappers, 50 Cent, is defending Mister Cee and saying that he would "make him my DJ any day."

"It's only entertaining because he means that much to hip-hop culture," 50 Cent tells Hot 97 personality Miss Info in an audio clip posted on her blog. "I recognize Mister Cee as the guy who offered us Biggie, so he means that much to the culture. And a lot of the kids that hear the radio don't see him the same way."

50 Cent says that he respects Mister Cee so much that he has played each of his full-length albums for the DJ before they were released. He also believes that the arrest shouldn't slow down Cee from doing what he does best.

"Who is to judge you when there's an audience -- that is probably one of the strongest audiences, if you look at Lady Gaga's career -- that says that that's fine?" says 50, speaking about the gay community. "If you say it's not fine, you're gonna get attacked. You're gonna write apology notes."

In her blog post, Miss Info writes that video of the 50 Cent interview is coming soon.

What do you think of 50 Cent's reaction to Mister Cee's arrest? Sound off in the comments.

Given that 50's mother was a "later in life lesbian", no surprise from me.

Lammastide said:

TonyVanDam said:

It's still "downlow" because DJ Mister Cee was trying very hard to hide his attraction for gay men & transgenders from the very circle of homophobic straight people who's careers he was helping from the very beginning.

Think about it. Do you really think Big Daddy Kane OR the Notorious B.I.G. would want to have anything to do with Cee if they knew years earlier that he wasn't straight and he was in to men & trangenders?!?

Given your definition, then, how is DL any different than simply being cloested? All sorts of gay men don't come out precisely because their circle is homophobic.

And, honestly, while associating with an out gay man in a professional setting might have been something Kane and Biggie wouldn't do, we've no reason to think they'd much care personally about dude's sexuality.

Unlike people that are "closet", people on a "down low" are guilty for being a bunch of sexual hypocrites.

Sexual hypocrites are people (especially some male rap artists) that are quick to diss gay men in their music, but yet have plenty of bisexual women, lipstick lesbian women, and/or passible-looking transgender women all in their music videos, the parties, etc. Sexual hypocrites are also guilty for hiding their own sexuality while they are dissing other non-straight people.

[Edited 4/6/11 21:27pm]

TonyVanDam said:

Lammastide said:

Given your definition, then, how is DL any different than simply being cloested? All sorts of gay men don't come out precisely because their circle is homophobic.

And, honestly, while associating with an out gay man in a professional setting might have been something Kane and Biggie wouldn't do, we've no reason to think they'd much care personally about dude's sexuality.

Unlike people that are "closet", people on a "down low" are guilty for being a bunch of sexual hypocrites.

Sexual hypocrites are people (especially some male rap artists) that are quick to diss gay men in their music, but yet have plenty of bisexual women, lipstick lesbian women, and/or passible-looking transgender women all in their music videos, the parties, etc. Sexual hypocrites are also guilty for hiding their own sexuality while they are dissing other non-straight people.

[Edited 4/6/11 21:27pm]

And what evidence do we have that Cee did any of this?

TonyVanDam said:

Timmy84 said:

Can anyone really call it a downlow if the guy is not married or doesn't have a girlfriend?

It's still "downlow" because DJ Mister Cee was trying very hard to hide his attraction for gay men & transgenders from the very circle of homophobic straight people who's careers he was helping from the very beginning.

Think about it. Do you really think Big Daddy Kane OR the Notorious B.I.G. would want to have anything to do with Cee if they knew years earlier that he wasn't straight and he was in to men & trangenders?!?

Tony, is it true Big Daddy Kane had AIDS or was that was a rumor that jumped back in the day?

angel345 said:

TonyVanDam said:

It's still "downlow" because DJ Mister Cee was trying very hard to hide his attraction for gay men & transgenders from the very circle of homophobic straight people who's careers he was helping from the very beginning.

Think about it. Do you really think Big Daddy Kane OR the Notorious B.I.G. would want to have anything to do with Cee if they knew years earlier that he wasn't straight and he was in to men & trangenders?!?

Tony, is it true Big Daddy Kane had AIDS or was that was a rumor that jumped back in the day?

He was on Monique just a couple months ago. I hope that's just a rumor.

angel345 said:

TonyVanDam said:

It's still "downlow" because DJ Mister Cee was trying very hard to hide his attraction for gay men & transgenders from the very circle of homophobic straight people who's careers he was helping from the very beginning.

Think about it. Do you really think Big Daddy Kane OR the Notorious B.I.G. would want to have anything to do with Cee if they knew years earlier that he wasn't straight and he was in to men & trangenders?!?

Tony, is it true Big Daddy Kane had AIDS or was that was a rumor that jumped back in the day?

I recall that rumor way back when. All I'll say is if dude does have AIDS, his therapeutic regimen must include several daily Magic Johnson tablets, because 20+ years later he's still touring, performing as lively as ever, making TV appearances and looking darned healthy.