I feel like it's in a rut I can't get with keri hilson type artists these days

What do you mean? There's acts like Lizz Wright, Raul Midon, and Sharon Jones & The Dap Kings out there.

MickyDolenz said:

What do you mean? There's acts like Lizz Wright, Raul Midon, and Sharon Jones & The Dap Kings out there.

Mainstream wise I just remember a couple years ago these artist were on the charts then pop music took over again.

Urban music, mainstream wise, has been in a rut for years....YEARS!

babybugz said:

MickyDolenz said:

What do you mean? There's acts like Lizz Wright, Raul Midon, and Sharon Jones & The Dap Kings out there.

Mainstream wise I just remember a couple years ago these artist were on the charts then pop music took over again.

I haven't listened to the radio on purpose since around 1990 or 91, so I don't know anything about what's mainstream. Don't care either.

MickyDolenz said:

babybugz said:

Mainstream wise I just remember a couple years ago these artist were on the charts then pop music took over again.

I haven't listened to the radio on purpose since around 1990 or 91, so I don't know anything about what's mainstream. Don't care either.

silverchild said:

Urban music, mainstream wise, has been in a rut for years....YEARS!

I know but it just feels now it's at no point of return

"Fuck the corporate world!" - Afroman

[Edited 4/1/11 15:47pm]

babybugz said:

silverchild said:

Urban music, mainstream wise, has been in a rut for years....YEARS!

I know but it just feels now it's at no point of return

And that's a good thing! Modern music in its totality needs a rebirth. But I'm glad we have revival soul music, even though that's beginning to deteriorate also.

silverchild said:

babybugz said:

I know but it just feels now it's at no point of return

And that's a good thing! Modern music in its totality needs a rebirth. But I'm glad we have revival soul music, even though that's beginning to deteriorate also.

You mean that "neo soul" music? I've hardly listened to it in recent years.

Timmy84 said:

silverchild said:

And that's a good thing! Modern music in its totality needs a rebirth. But I'm glad we have revival soul music, even though that's beginning to deteriorate also.

You mean that "neo soul" music? I've hardly listened to it in recent years.

Same...maybe I’m just getting bored.

I never understood that neo-soul stuff. I just considered it buppie music, like something that would be played in a Starbuck's if black upper middle class people owned it. It all sounds alike to me.

Timmy84 said:

silverchild said:

And that's a good thing! Modern music in its totality needs a rebirth. But I'm glad we have revival soul music, even though that's beginning to deteriorate also.

You mean that "neo soul" music? I've hardly listened to it in recent years.

Well I wasn't exactly meaning "neo-soul," but I was talking about the Motown/1960s soul music thing that artists are just jocking nowadays. Not saying that folks like Raphael Saadiq, Eric Benet and R. Kelly haven't done a bang up job with their recent efforts, but it is getting repetitive and generic. Acts like Sharon Jones & The Dap Kings are the ones that really do it justice, but they get criminally overlooked.

MickyDolenz said:

I never understood that neo-soul stuff. I just considered it buppie music, like something that would be played in a Starbuck's if black upper middle class people owned it. It all sounds alike to me.

I'll say this about that whole "neo-soul" thing. When the SOULQUARIANS movement ended (D'Angelo, Q-Tip, Amir Thompson, Erykah Badu, Common, etc.), urban music took a back seat for me. Hands down!

silverchild said:

Timmy84 said:

You mean that "neo soul" music? I've hardly listened to it in recent years.

Well I wasn't exactly meaning "neo-soul," but I was talking about the Motown/1960s soul music thing that artists are just jocking nowadays. Not saying that folks like Raphael Saadiq, Eric Benet and R. Kelly haven't done a bang up job with their recent efforts, but it is getting repetitive and generic. Acts like Sharon Jones & The Dap Kings are the ones that really do it justice, but they get criminally overlooked.

The Daptone artists IN GENERAL are overlooked.

Timmy84 said:

silverchild said:

Well I wasn't exactly meaning "neo-soul," but I was talking about the Motown/1960s soul music thing that artists are just jocking nowadays. Not saying that folks like Raphael Saadiq, Eric Benet and R. Kelly haven't done a bang up job with their recent efforts, but it is getting repetitive and generic. Acts like Sharon Jones & The Dap Kings are the ones that really do it justice, but they get criminally overlooked.

The Daptone artists IN GENERAL are overlooked.

Lee Fields is among one of the greatest, yet unsung voices in soul music. Namoi Shelton & The Gospel Queens are just stellar.

Timmy84 said:

silverchild said:

Well I wasn't exactly meaning "neo-soul," but I was talking about the Motown/1960s soul music thing that artists are just jocking nowadays. Not saying that folks like Raphael Saadiq, Eric Benet and R. Kelly haven't done a bang up job with their recent efforts, but it is getting repetitive and generic. Acts like Sharon Jones & The Dap Kings are the ones that really do it justice, but they get criminally overlooked.

The Daptone artists IN GENERAL are overlooked.

their really isnt anymore Mainstream filter anymore to give you everything, now its all processed to give you one type of thing at a time, thats why their is no competition in music what so ever and why no one mainstream so to speak, grows, they are too busy in photoshoots and worrying about their twitter and facebook pages and things like that. There is too much "sidetracking", my advice, make your own MAINSTREAM, you know, like fantasy baseball or football, make your own playlists search for the artists that get you where you wanna go, and dont look for someone to recommend it to you

The music on mainstream radio is programmed by computers (in the USA at least). Most likely the station is owned by Clear Channel and they all play the same thing. Even on formats like "oldies", "classic rock", "80's retro", etc., they just play certain songs over and over (ie. My Girl, Layla, Satsifaction, Burn Rubber, Tie A Yellow Ribbon, Freebird, Whip It). If you call one of these stations and request some songs that were hits in the past, they'll say something like "We don't play that", "It's not on our playlist" and they'll name a few songs that you can request. That defeats the whole point of a request.

I'm really into Dee-1 right now. Great rapper/urban artist.

lastdecember said:

Timmy84 said:

The Daptone artists IN GENERAL are overlooked.

their really isnt anymore Mainstream filter anymore to give you everything, now its all processed to give you one type of thing at a time, thats why their is no competition in music what so ever and why no one mainstream so to speak, grows, they are too busy in photoshoots and worrying about their twitter and facebook pages and things like that. There is too much "sidetracking", my advice, make your own MAINSTREAM, you know, like fantasy baseball or football, make your own playlists search for the artists that get you where you wanna go, and dont look for someone to recommend it to you

I agree.

MickyDolenz said:

I never understood that neo-soul stuff. I just considered it buppie music, like something that would be played in a Starbuck's if black upper middle class people owned it. It all sounds alike to me.

I agree. I think neo-soul is largely hideous. In taking themselves way too seriously and trying so hard to be alternative, disaffected and deep, they come off like cartoons.

it ssucks sit it sucks shiot it fuckin sucks man it died in the 80smin the fuckin 80ds

chamber said:

MickyDolenz said:

I never understood that neo-soul stuff. I just considered it buppie music, like something that would be played in a Starbuck's if black upper middle class people owned it. It all sounds alike to me.

I agree. I think neo-soul is largely hideous. In taking themselves way too seriously and trying so hard to be alternative, disaffected and deep, they come off like cartoons.

I agree. They tried to wear the clothes and act serious, but it all came off fake for many. Just mediocre R&B.

silverchild said:

chamber said:

I agree. I think neo-soul is largely hideous. In taking themselves way too seriously and trying so hard to be alternative, disaffected and deep, they come off like cartoons.

I agree. They tried to wear the clothes and act serious, but it all came off fake for many. Just mediocre R&B.

That's why most of them didn't last too long.

There is different music for different tastes. With the accessibility of the internet now, it is all available for people to find and enjoy.

I think it’s a waste of energy and thought to worry about music that you don’t like. Just find what you enjoy and enjoy it J

Timmy84 said:

lastdecember said:

their really isnt anymore Mainstream filter anymore to give you everything, now its all processed to give you one type of thing at a time, thats why their is no competition in music what so ever and why no one mainstream so to speak, grows, they are too busy in photoshoots and worrying about their twitter and facebook pages and things like that. There is too much "sidetracking", my advice, make your own MAINSTREAM, you know, like fantasy baseball or football, make your own playlists search for the artists that get you where you wanna go, and dont look for someone to recommend it to you

I agree.

Yeah i just feel that its like someone said, its a wide open field, and of course there is tons of shit but there is good out there, and its coming from new and OLD artists doing new music, to me the 80's were the last "all inclusive" mainstream, but now with the net, the mainstream is yours to create, the BIG MEDIA creates the Beyonce's for you and you gotta now make the Ledisi and Van Hunt's and Ben Harper's etc....but i will say this, folks you can support both if you want, do let people say "oh thats too mainstream" and avoid it, shit if you dig it, who gives a F about what other people think. Shit 90% of what i listen too doesnt chart, at least in this country, and the answers are so easy of how to get this music out there, but what the US has mainly done is actually while the NET has broadened the mainstream has tightened makes no freaking sense at all.

silverchild said:

Urban music, mainstream wise, has been in a rut for years....YEARS!

I know thats right.

Because the indie scene is booming, and you won't find ANY of their artist squeezed between that 12 songs playlist anytime soon,,,,again, this is where the internet come in.

Harlepolis said:

silverchild said:

Urban music, mainstream wise, has been in a rut for years....YEARS!

I know thats right.

Because the indie scene is booming, and you won't find ANY of their artist squeezed between that 12 songs playlist anytime soon,,,,again, this is where the internet come in.

its even more than that, take radio and whats its been for the last almost 20 years, no more playlists, at least the way the were allowed back then. If u think that a DJ can play an album cut a B side a mix or a track not on the agenda then we are crazy, the freedom is gone, so if you apply this to what was say in the 80's 70's and 60's you wouldnt have half or more of the artists we treasure. So many cuts that they had and were hits or at least got exposure, got the exposure because their labels had BRAVE people that stuck up for them, and the radio DJ's had balls to break the mold, now everyone is HYPE monster everyone dresses the same in music, same BS has been going on for over 2 decades which is why the US is not even the top of the list in markets to focus on by artists

How comes 80s and 90s music is so good, but most of the music after that sucks shit.

What about happened to people's creativity.

Its all about Dancing in the club, and Autotune. That's it.

suga10 said:

How comes 80s and 90s music is so good, but most of the music after that sucks shit.

What about happened to people's creativity.

Its all about Dancing in the club, and Autotune. That's it.

That’s my main problem with it now I don’t listen at all.