um NO... 10 YEARS into janets career it was her best era... the janet era.... janet even at her worst is still better then britney.... GET REAL...
Nahhhh, Janet broke in 1986, babe. Not 1982. Janet came out in 1982.
In 1996, she came out with Design of a Decade and shortly after began recording The Velvet Rope. Her marriage at the time was also crumbling in a really dysfunctional way.
janet came out 1982... so 10 years in her career she was at the top of her game.... britney came out 1998 10 years later she can barely dance and has no stage presence....
the velvet rope 1998 tour was very successful... who gives a crap about her marriage what does have to do with anything...
britney was cute when she first came out... i used to be a huge fan... mainly because she reminded me of a more pop janet jackson... BUT now she just lost her luster... its not cute or fresh anymore... and she is just a puppet....
Nahhhh, Janet broke in 1986, babe. Not 1982. Janet came out in 1982.
In 1996, she came out with Design of a Decade and shortly after began recording The Velvet Rope. Her marriage at the time was also crumbling in a really dysfunctional way.
janet came out 1982... so 10 years in her career she was at the top of her game.... britney came out 1998 10 years later she can barely dance and has no stage presence....
the velvet rope 1998 tour was very successful... who gives a crap about her marriage what does have to do with anything...
britney was cute when she first came out... i used to be a huge fan... mainly because she reminded me of a more pop janet jackson... BUT now she just lost her luster... its not cute or fresh anymore... and she is just a puppet....
You keep fighting me on the 1982 thing. Control is from 1986. That was her first success and she often acknowledges that as the start of her music career. *shrug*
As I said in my original post here, I think Janet is amazingly talented and way more talented than Britney. But she did suffer some weird shit just like Britney did, after 10 years of mega success.
But um... Both Janet and Madonna, 10 years into the game, lost their shit.
Britney came out in 1998. Ten years later, she was mid-breakdown.
Madonna came out in 1982. Ten years later, she was mid-Erotica aka major career slump, showing her pussy all over TV, print, and anywhere else.
Janet broke in 1986. Ten years later, she was going through a nasty, abusive marriage and shortly after the divorce put out the first in a long string of unsuccessful albums (briefly seeing major success again with All For You).
BTW - My point is just that Madonna and Janet are just way more talented than Britney in basically every way. At least, they were when they were Britney's age. Britney is very charming and cute and I personally am a big fan of hers ever since she came out (just cuz I dig fruity pop like that, sue me), but she is not especially talented. She was a VERY good dancer before she cracked. The drugs keeping her supposed bipolar shit together is what is dumbing her down. When you hear her in interviews, she is very candid these days about yearning to be free of the restraints on her. I feel that when she does a Beyonce and cuts her dad off, she will return to her game.
That, taking into account her legal troubles, may not be for quite a long time.
Madonna in 1992 was still a great performer.
Janet in 1992 was prepping to release her janet. album and she was in her prime as a performer. By the way, she wasn't in an abusive marriage in the late 90's.
So neither lost their shit.
Britney Spears is 29 years and hardly can even walk a straight line. I can't imagine her putting on a show like Janet Jackson and Madonna when she reaches their age. Britney's time is up.
But um... Both Janet and Madonna, 10 years into the game, lost their shit.
Britney came out in 1998. Ten years later, she was mid-breakdown.
Madonna came out in 1982. Ten years later, she was mid-Erotica aka major career slump, showing her pussy all over TV, print, and anywhere else.
Janet broke in 1986. Ten years later, she was going through a nasty, abusive marriage and shortly after the divorce put out the first in a long string of unsuccessful albums (briefly seeing major success again with All For You).
BTW - My point is just that Madonna and Janet are just way more talented than Britney in basically every way. At least, they were when they were Britney's age. Britney is very charming and cute and I personally am a big fan of hers ever since she came out (just cuz I dig fruity pop like that, sue me), but she is not especially talented. She was a VERY good dancer before she cracked. The drugs keeping her supposed bipolar shit together is what is dumbing her down. When you hear her in interviews, she is very candid these days about yearning to be free of the restraints on her. I feel that when she does a Beyonce and cuts her dad off, she will return to her game.
That, taking into account her legal troubles, may not be for quite a long time.
Madonna in 1992 was still a great performer.
Janet in 1992 was prepping to release her janet. album and she was in her prime as a performer. By the way, she wasn't in an abusive marriage in the late 90's.
So neither lost their shit.
Britney Spears is 29 years and hardly can even walk a straight line. I can't imagine her putting on a show like Janet Jackson and Madonna when she reaches their age. Britney's time is up.
Janet in 1992 was prepping to release her janet. album and she was in her prime as a performer. By the way, she wasn't in an abusive marriage in the late 90's.
So neither lost their shit.
Britney Spears is 29 years and hardly can even walk a straight line. I can't imagine her putting on a show like Janet Jackson and Madonna when she reaches their age. Britney's time is up.
You keep fighting me on the 1982 thing. Control is from 1986. That was her first success and she often acknowledges that as the start of her music career. *shrug*
As I said in my original post here, I think Janet is amazingly talented and way more talented than Britney. But she did suffer some weird shit just like Britney did, after 10 years of mega success.
No, she didn't.
BTW, how does a quiet divorce compare to....
Being drugged by your manager
Getting arrested for hit and runs
Wearing pink wigs and acting weird at fast food resturants
Nowhere does it state that Rene abused her in the divorce documents.
Janet was in an abusive relationship back in 1984, not the late 90's.
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Okay, six of one - half dozen the other. My point was that all 3 of them had their tribulations to go through and that I hoped Britney would eventually work her way past it like the other 2 women did.
janet came out 1982... so 10 years in her career she was at the top of her game.... britney came out 1998 10 years later she can barely dance and has no stage presence....
the velvet rope 1998 tour was very successful... who gives a crap about her marriage what does have to do with anything...
britney was cute when she first came out... i used to be a huge fan... mainly because she reminded me of a more pop janet jackson... BUT now she just lost her luster... its not cute or fresh anymore... and she is just a puppet....
You keep fighting me on the 1982 thing. Control is from 1986. That was her first success and she often acknowledges that as the start of her music career. *shrug*
As I said in my original post here, I think Janet is amazingly talented and way more talented than Britney. But she did suffer some weird shit just like Britney did, after 10 years of mega success.
listen we are NOT talking about first success we are talking about DEBUT... she came out 1982... OKAY....... its not fighting... you don't want to be wrong so you are going to make a weak arguement that makes no sense... Her first album Janet Jackson came out 1982 under papa joe
we are going to acknowledge her from the START... just like the start of britney's career... we are speaking FIRST ALBUM.... to 10 YEARS
You keep fighting me on the 1982 thing. Control is from 1986. That was her first success and she often acknowledges that as the start of her music career. *shrug*
As I said in my original post here, I think Janet is amazingly talented and way more talented than Britney. But she did suffer some weird shit just like Britney did, after 10 years of mega success.
listen we are NOT talking about first success we are talking about DEBUT... she came out 1982... OKAY....... its not fighting... you don't want to be wrong so you are going to make a weak arguement that makes no sense... Her first album Janet Jackson came out 1982 under papa joe
we are going to acknowledge her from the START... just like the start of britney's career... we are speaking FIRST ALBUM.... to 10 YEARS
okay....
Why are you so serious about it? This is a distraction from the point. Stop needling and just pay the fuck attention to what I am saying. You ballbusting me about 2 albums Janet herself does not acknowledge is some bull -ish. You remember when 20YO came out? Lemme give you a hint: It wasn't 2002.
Nowhere does it state that Rene abused her in the divorce documents.
Janet was in an abusive relationship back in 1984, not the late 90's.
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Okay, six of one - half dozen the other. My point was that all 3 of them had their tribulations to go through and that I hoped Britney would eventually work her way past it like the other 2 women did.
Is that alright with you?
Are you seriously trying to compare a divorce to Britney going batshit crazy and shaving her head? LOL! Why can't you just admit that Britney has a problem and most likely has no desire to perform in the future? Just look at the clips.
Okay, six of one - half dozen the other. My point was that all 3 of them had their tribulations to go through and that I hoped Britney would eventually work her way past it like the other 2 women did.
Is that alright with you?
Are you seriously trying to compare a divorce to Britney going batshit crazy and shaving her head? LOL! Why can't you just admit that Britney has a problem and most likely has no desire to perform in the future? Just look at the clips.
Okay, how long are her fans going to keep blaming her knee injury? I mean, this shit happened about 8 years ago.
Spinlight said:
trueiopian said:
Are you seriously trying to compare a divorce to Britney going batshit crazy and shaving her head? LOL! Why can't you just admit that Britney has a problem and most likely has no desire to perform in the future? Just look at the clips.
Okay, how long are her fans going to keep blaming her knee injury? I mean, this shit happened about 8 years ago.
Spinlight said:
OH MY GOD. Let it go..................
Next time don't say stupid shit.
The knee injury happened in 2004. Her 'breakdown' period was 3 years later. There were no albums or dancing in between (other than for My Prerogative, which didn't have crazy dancing). The point is valid.
Okay, how long are her fans going to keep blaming her knee injury? I mean, this shit happened about 8 years ago.
Next time don't say stupid shit.
The knee injury happened in 2004. Her 'breakdown' period was 3 years later. There were no albums or dancing in between (other than for My Prerogative, which didn't have crazy dancing). The point is valid.
If there was no album or dancing in between then how is it valid?
Okay, how long are her fans going to keep blaming her knee injury? I mean, this shit happened about 8 years ago.
Spinlight said:
OH MY GOD. Let it go..................
Next time don't say stupid shit.
Her knee injury was pretty serious and it's not like you can just recover from things like that and everything turns out fine and dandy .. I have a friend who twisted his knee the same way Britney did and he still haven't recovered from it...mind you this happened to him over 10 years ago
Okay, how long are her fans going to keep blaming her knee injury? I mean, this shit happened about 8 years ago.
Next time don't say stupid shit.
Her knee injury was pretty serious and it's not like you can just recover from things like that and everything turns out fine and dandy .. I have a friend who twisted his knee the same way Britney did and he still haven't recovered from it...mind you this happened to him over 10 years ago
Come on now Britney was never a leg dancer to begin with. It was always about the "spirit fingers". So I'm not buying this she keeps flapping her arms and walking around because of a knee injury. Mind you she was doing high kicks during a performance back in 2009.
listen we are NOT talking about first success we are talking about DEBUT... she came out 1982... OKAY....... its not fighting... you don't want to be wrong so you are going to make a weak arguement that makes no sense... Her first album Janet Jackson came out 1982 under papa joe
we are going to acknowledge her from the START... just like the start of britney's career... we are speaking FIRST ALBUM.... to 10 YEARS
okay....
Why are you so serious about it? This is a distraction from the point. Stop needling and just pay the fuck attention to what I am saying. You ballbusting me about 2 albums Janet herself does not acknowledge is some bull -ish. You remember when 20YO came out? Lemme give you a hint: It wasn't 2002.
are you drinking or doing drugs right now
i really don't think I can hold a conversation with you.... lolol
20 y.o came out 2006.... but what does that have to do with anything....
Like i said... from the start of janet's career which is 1982 she continuously improved all the way up to Damita Jo album which was 2004... even if you want to use 1986 for her start date which is INCORRECT.. even at 1997 the velvet rope was out and the tour was amazing... SO what is your point....
britney declined after 2005... which was about 7 years in her career....
Her knee injury was pretty serious and it's not like you can just recover from things like that and everything turns out fine and dandy .. I have a friend who twisted his knee the same way Britney did and he still haven't recovered from it...mind you this happened to him over 10 years ago
Come on now Britney was never a leg dancer to begin with. It was always about the "spirit fingers". So I'm not buying this she keeps flapping her arms and walking around because of a knee injury. Mind you she was doing high kicks during a performance back in 2009.
I'm not saying her injury is the MAIN CAUSE but it does contribute to it. I think overall Britney just doesn't give a fuck anymore. I haven't seen fire in her eyes since she premiered "Slave 4 U" via MTV Awards back in 2001 .. that was one of the last performances that had that UMPH to it...
i used to love britney all the way up til 2005... after that K-fed stuff i couldn't stand her.. and now she doesn't have any motivation or hunger.. and lost her luster.. and there is no talent to back it up.. so no real interest in her anymore...
im just amazed at how she is still around...
Agree...Even though I was never fan of her music I used to think she was really cool...But now, it's like "I already have a decent amount of fans who have never left me even when I was going through shit...They'll love me and buy my CDs no matter how bad I am at live shows. Why should I even bother to try to put some efforts into it? What's the point?" =(
ok, now who can tell me what are the facts in this video and where it is the author's imagination, speculations etc?
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
YIKES! She must be on something. Just flailing lazily along does not seem remotely right even for someone in their 60's let alone someone as young as her.
The producers of Jimmy and GMA must know something is whack as they are quick to cut away from her and the all the long long long shots and audience shots instead of the star.
As for the music. It's a shame she has not grown as an artist. It really does sound lame. I can't imagine too many people under the age of 13 can dig that.
I am not trying to be purposely snarky or dissing the girl, I root for Brit, just being honest. I don't think all is well for the young lady.
I think it’s the medication to be honest and just getting older. I’m a fan but not blind to the fact she looks like she’s just not into it anymore. I think she should stop she's done enough but if she loves what she does then continue I guess.
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She's not that old though- its obviously that medication, her record forcing her to do something against her own will, and anxiety probably after not performing for awhile on stage.
I mean Madonna was doing this on Blonde Ambition tour at age 32.
And Janet on Velvet Rope Tour- she was 30 that time
The Up Close and Personal Tour- just recently
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I said getting OLDER not that she’s old she had kids etc as well I can’t expect her to be 17 again. But like I already said her meds could be the issue and just not into it anymore. Clearly madonna and Janet has not had any breakdowns like britney had as well.
Let me reword that, what I meant was age was definitely not a factor in this performance. She's not well I think mentally and she's been out of the whole performing thing for awhile.
But yeah media and public was definitely critiquing her performance from GMA and Jimmy Kimmell
Its still very much reminiscent to that infamous MTV performance
Let me reword that, what I meant was age was definitely not a factor in this performance. She's not well I think mentally and she's been out of the whole performing thing for awhile.
But yeah media and public was definitely critiquing her performance from GMA and Jimmy Kimmell
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I never denied that I'm aware. If you saw my whole post I said it was the Medication (treating bipolar as well it has been reveal) and it seems her heart is not in it anymore. She hasn't been the same since the breakdown Obviously .I still like her either way but i'm not blind. I don't think she should continue but many fans will argue that she still enjoys it but just not the fame that comes with it.
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ok, now who can tell me what are the facts in this video and where it is the author's imagination, speculations etc?
