Aerosmith rock!

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MattyJam said:

Toys In The Attic and Rocks are undoubtedly two of the best rock albums ever made.

But I have yet to hear an album since which is above mediocre.

Strange but true.

Ever hear of Get a Grip?

I think the first album, Get Your Wings and PUMP are all stellar as well.

The rest is a mixed bag between pretty darn good (Draw the LIne) and very darn awful (almost everything post PUMP).

Fenwick said:

I think the first album, Get Your Wings and PUMP are all stellar as well.

The rest is a mixed bag between pretty darn good (Draw the LIne) and very darn awful (almost everything post PUMP).

+1 for first 2 (not as familiar w/ Pump).

Wish they'd get back to the rawness/ honesty of the first two records. They're at the point in their careers where they should be able to do what they want to (back to basics would be refreshing).

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AKABubbleup said:

Fenwick said:

I think the first album, Get Your Wings and PUMP are all stellar as well.

The rest is a mixed bag between pretty darn good (Draw the LIne) and very darn awful (almost everything post PUMP).

+1 for first 2 (not as familiar w/ Pump).

Wish they'd get back to the rawness/ honesty of the first two records. They're at the point in their careers where they should be able to do what they want to (back to basics would be refreshing).

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Co-sign. I'd also say that 'Draw The Line' had a lot of good songs and grooves, but was hobbled by an awful production. I think that at that point, Aerosmith's 'recreational pursuits' started to hinder, rather than help the music.

From their sober years, I'd say that 'Permanent Vacation' is decent pop rock, the albums 'Get a Grip' and 'Nine Lives' still have some of the old wallop (but weak songs), and 'Just Push Play' is pure fluff. Their covers album 'Honkin' on Bobo' gave me hope that they'd soon be getting back to their roots, but that was seven years ago.

I'm not that familiar with their catalog

but songs I like are "Same Old Song & Dance" from Get Your Wings

which my bf HATES (too campy for him)

and "Write Me a Letter" from the first album

is pretty cool too

I think I have Toys In The Attic

on vinyl back in Louisiana

but I never really played that one much

I dig alot of the songs from Get A Grip as well

(the Aerosmith that I remember coming up as a young chap in jr. high)

what are some of you guys favorites?

I love PUMP, the last good album they made.

I disagree with the original poster's premise, Aerosmith and Get Your Wings are solid albums and Pump is close to their best. Otherwise their catalog is pretty hit and miss although I do have a soft spot for Night in the Ruts.

I think the problem is that they just have trouble writing an album's worth of great material. I didn't like it in the '80s when they started bringing in tons of co-writers, it seems like most of that stuff is watered down and overcommercialised.

Here is an interesting quote from Steven Tyler from the Walk This Way biography:

Sounds like if you want "classic" Aerosmith back you ought to give the boys mounds and mounds of drugs.

anybody remember the SNL skit where they spoofed Aerosmith with an "infomercial" that basically said all their songs sound alike.

casual "fan", don't on anything, just hear the singles that become hits and you can't HIDE from them.

gonna hafta find PUMP, I don't think I have that one

thanx you guys

lol you don't know what the hell you're talking about

Pump is genius too especially Young Lust

their debut is very good, listen to one way street and dream on

Get Your wings has good stuff do- train kept a rollin, woman of the world etc

Liked 'em in the 70s but not since then.

I don't understand the love for Pump. It's terribly dated and a blatant attempt to try and sound like Appetite For Destruction.

The album is weak with barely a good song to speak of. By contrast, Rock and Toys In The Attic don't have a single bad track.

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MattyJam said:

I don't understand the love for Pump. It's terribly dated and a blatant attempt to try and sound like Appetite For Destruction.

The album is weak with barely a good song to speak of. By contrast, Rock and Toys In The Attic don't have a single bad track.

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Compared to anything else they recorded from 1985-present Pump is a masterpiece and by a wide margin the album features the best rock songs compared to anything else from that era. It's as close as they've come to recapturing the best of their '70s material.

Have you listened to it lately? I find it hard to believe that you think there is "barely a good song to speak of" on it. Which songs on Pump do you like?

rialb said:

MattyJam said:

I don't understand the love for Pump. It's terribly dated and a blatant attempt to try and sound like Appetite For Destruction.

The album is weak with barely a good song to speak of. By contrast, Rock and Toys In The Attic don't have a single bad track.

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Compared to anything else they recorded from 1985-present Pump is a masterpiece and by a wide margin the album features the best rock songs compared to anything else from that era. It's as close as they've come to recapturing the best of their '70s material.

Have you listened to it lately? I find it hard to believe that you think there is "barely a good song to speak of" on it. Which songs on Pump do you like?

I quite like Janie's Got A Gun but that's about it. They just don't sound like a real band on this album.

Surely even the most ardent of Aerosmith fans would admit that nothing on Pumps compares to songs like Sweet Emotion, Uncle Salty, Nobody's Fault and epic ballads like You See Me Crying and Home Tonight.

MattyJam said:

I don't understand the love for Pump. It's terribly dated and a blatant attempt to try and sound like Appetite For Destruction.

The album is weak with barely a good song to speak of. By contrast, Rock and Toys In The Attic don't have a single bad track.

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love in an elevator, f.I.n.e that album is great. Musically its amazing. Now Aerosmith were always eclectic but Pump built on Permanent Vacation and established them. Seriously, maybe you hate the times and you have a bad taste in your mouth from that era but the album judged alone is good. I don't see how it compares musically to appetite. Which is one of the greatest albums ever. That's just a statement you threw out to validate your opinion that's not based on any facts...tsk,tsk now considering aod is one the greatest albums ever why not try to emulate it? Si don't think they tried but if they did, so what?

MattyJam said:

Surely even the most ardent of Aerosmith fans would admit that nothing on Pumps compares to songs like Sweet Emotion, Uncle Salty, Nobody's Fault and epic ballads like You See Me Crying and Home Tonight.

Janie's got a gun, What it takes, The other side and Love in an elevator.

Young Lust and The Other side are just as good as anything from their 70's stuff. What it takes is a good ballad but its not quite as good as their classic ballads like Home Tonight and Dream On.

Still Pump is excellent- hard rockers like Young Lust and fine, more commercial rockers like the other side and love in an elevator. Plus Janie got a gun and what it takes and you have a great albuum right there

MattyJam said:

Toys In The Attic and Rocks are undoubtedly two of the best rock albums ever made.

But I have yet to hear an album since which is above mediocre.

Strange but true.

This is just your personal opinion. I love Get your Wings and Get a Grip and Pump was pretty good too.

hhhhdmt said:

Young Lust and The Other side are just as good as anything from their 70's stuff. What it takes is a good ballad but its not quite as good as their classic ballads like Home Tonight and Dream On.

Still Pump is excellent- hard rockers like Young Lust and fine, more commercial rockers like the other side and love in an elevator. Plus Janie got a gun and what it takes and you have a great albuum right there

Totally agree about Young Lust, FINE and What it Takes. But I would also add Voodoo Medicine Man to that list. I personally think that track is epic and one of their best tunes ever. It's just dirty.

The only song on the entire disc that doesn't work for me is Love in an Elevator. The "WHOAH YEAH" verse call and response thing is more of an emulation of Bon Jovi than GnR. I find it cheesy.

It's weird what some people hear from an album. Dated production? I think it's timeless straight up rock without any gimmicks at all. Anyway, I would most definitely put this album in league with their first four/five records.

Granted What it Takes is no Seasons of Wither, but what else is?

MattyJam said:

I don't understand the love for Pump. It's terribly dated and a blatant attempt to try and sound like Appetite For Destruction.

The album is weak with barely a good song to speak of. By contrast, Rock and Toys In The Attic don't have a single bad track.

I just can't see it, yes GNR were heavily influenced by Aerosmith of the 70's but PUMP sounds to me like a great sounding rock album with no filler, Love In An Elavator, F.I.N.E, Janie, What It Takes, Young Lust all great tracks and would easily be put in my Aerosmith setlist. Appetite is a raw rock album, PUMP is a polished (in a good way) album

RE: PUMP

There's also 'The Making of Pump' DVD documentary w/ studio footage on the making of the album. Had seen it ages ago but want to seek it out again.

Can anyone comment on the sound quality of the 2008 Geffen release on vinyl? I dont there was an original vinyl release in the US at least...

Fenwick said:

hhhhdmt said:

Young Lust and The Other side are just as good as anything from their 70's stuff. What it takes is a good ballad but its not quite as good as their classic ballads like Home Tonight and Dream On.

Still Pump is excellent- hard rockers like Young Lust and fine, more commercial rockers like the other side and love in an elevator. Plus Janie got a gun and what it takes and you have a great albuum right there

Totally agree about Young Lust, FINE and What it Takes. But I would also add Voodoo Medicine Man to that list. I personally think that track is epic and one of their best tunes ever. It's just dirty.

The only song on the entire disc that doesn't work for me is Love in an Elevator. The "WHOAH YEAH" verse call and response thing is more of an emulation of Bon Jovi than GnR. I find it cheesy.

It's weird what some people hear from an album. Dated production? I think it's timeless straight up rock without any gimmicks at all. Anyway, I would most definitely put this album in league with their first four/five records.

Granted What it Takes is no Seasons of Wither, but what else is?

mia, home tonight and dream on but yes i agree that its def one of their best ballads

As far as their best work outside of the big three (toys, rocks, pump), i really like their debut and strange as it sounds night in the ruts. I love the cover of rememeber (walking in the sand) and songs like chiquita and mia. I am probably in the minority for liking night in the ruts quite alot but to each to their own i guess

Draw the line- i really dont like it. Maybe it'll grow on me, but i liked night in the ruts 10 times better.

Anyway for the op, here are some tracks you might like that are not on either rocks or toys

Train kept a rollin:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...FpKzNyddA0

chip away the stone:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...VeR0bN5j7A

hhhhdmt said:

Fenwick said:

Totally agree about Young Lust, FINE and What it Takes. But I would also add Voodoo Medicine Man to that list. I personally think that track is epic and one of their best tunes ever. It's just dirty.

The only song on the entire disc that doesn't work for me is Love in an Elevator. The "WHOAH YEAH" verse call and response thing is more of an emulation of Bon Jovi than GnR. I find it cheesy.

It's weird what some people hear from an album. Dated production? I think it's timeless straight up rock without any gimmicks at all. Anyway, I would most definitely put this album in league with their first four/five records.

Granted What it Takes is no Seasons of Wither, but what else is?

mia, home tonight and dream on but yes i agree that its def one of their best ballads

As far as their best work outside of the big three (toys, rocks, pump), i really like their debut and strange as it sounds night in the ruts. I love the cover of rememeber (walking in the sand) and songs like chiquita and mia. I am probably in the minority for liking night in the ruts quite alot but to each to their own i guess

Draw the line- i really dont like it. Maybe it'll grow on me, but i liked night in the ruts 10 times better.

Anyway for the op, here are some tracks you might like that are not on either rocks or toys

Train kept a rollin:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...FpKzNyddA0

chip away the stone:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...VeR0bN5j7A

I also like Night in the Ruts better than Draw the Line. I would rank Night in the Ruts just below Aerosmith and Get Your Wings but it is still a pretty good album.

bigd74 said:

I love PUMP, the last good album they made.

Agreed, Pump is their best album in my opinion, and I like alot of the older stuff.

NoVideo said:

bigd74 said:

I love PUMP, the last good album they made.

Agreed, Pump is their best album in my opinion, and I like alot of the older stuff.

Yeah i think PUMP is one of the best Rock albums of the last 25 years, to me its not dated and to be honest i hate that term, "dated", because its usually used on decades that had indentity as opposed to the last two which almost have no indentity but also really lacked strong outputs, so to me things go hand in hand. But for PUMP to me it was best for them, it still sounds solid and can be played straight through, i personally dont get the GnR comparisons, everyone seems to think everything Loud and Rock was GnR influenced, but to me they were more watered down as time went on than any group.

rialb said:

hhhhdmt said:

mia, home tonight and dream on but yes i agree that its def one of their best ballads

As far as their best work outside of the big three (toys, rocks, pump), i really like their debut and strange as it sounds night in the ruts. I love the cover of rememeber (walking in the sand) and songs like chiquita and mia. I am probably in the minority for liking night in the ruts quite alot but to each to their own i guess

Draw the line- i really dont like it. Maybe it'll grow on me, but i liked night in the ruts 10 times better.

Anyway for the op, here are some tracks you might like that are not on either rocks or toys

Train kept a rollin:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...FpKzNyddA0

chip away the stone:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...VeR0bN5j7A

I also like Night in the Ruts better than Draw the Line. I would rank Night in the Ruts just below Aerosmith and Get Your Wings but it is still a pretty good album.

yup, after the big three, the next three for me are the debut, get your wings and night in the ruts. Draw the line is just mediocre.

MASTERPIECES

Rocks

Toys in the Attic

Pump

VERY GOOD ALBUMS

Get Your Wings

Done With Mirrors

Permanent Vacation

GOOD ALBUMS

Get a Grip

Aerosmith

Draw the Line

Night in the Ruts

DECENT

Honkin' On Bobo

WEIRD

Rock In a Hard Place

CRAP

Nine Lives

Just Push Play

JoeTyler said:

MASTERPIECES

Rocks

Toys in the Attic

Pump

VERY GOOD ALBUMS

Get Your Wings

Done With Mirrors

Permanent Vacation

GOOD ALBUMS

Get a Grip

Aerosmith

Draw the Line

Night in the Ruts

DECENT

Honkin' On Bobo

WEIRD

Rock In a Hard Place

CRAP

Nine Lives

Just Push Play

pretty much agree on all that, i might bump up Nine Lives to Decent.