MickyDolenz said:

I didn't know the Fab 4 put out comic books.

You silly.

novabrkr said:

I'll take a stab.

1 - Tight arrangement. Harmonically rich. Dynamic. Intricate harmony arrangement reminiscent of a soft horn section that really drives the tune along.

2 - Unmemorable, unremarkable rash of noise. These guys need to write some better songs before they hit the studio again. And get a new singer, he has absolutely no range LOL! Kudos for trying though

No one heard "Helter Skelter" until the end of 1968. Blue Cheer's cover of "Summertime Blues" has usually been written as being the first heavy metal song. The MC5's "Kick Out the Jams" was one of the first. Steppenwolf's "Born To Be Wild" had the "heavy metal thunder" line in it.

As far as Led Zep, Deep Purple and Black Sabbath go, all of those bands were formed in '68, and none of them would've heard what was going on in Abbey Road. Black Sabbath did hear the first Led Zep record at a disco, recognized who it was (Geezer Butler and Robert Plant knew each other) , and Iommi wanted to come up with a heavier, harder sound. It came down to not being able to identify with hippie music. Same thing with the Detroit based bands, except they were of draft age.

When Black Sabbath first toured the US, some people thought it was an R&B group.

All the bands are influenced by The Beatles, but saying "Helter Skelter" kicked off metal is inaccurate.

JOHN 1980: "That was one of the earliest heavy-metal records made. Paul's contribution was the way Ringo played the drums."

He is refering to Ticket to Ride.

I can't find the source right now, but I want to say The Playboy Interviews

JoeTyler said:

bigd74 said:

let me think!

Slayer fuckin

Reign In Blood and South Of Heaven are classics.

and Seasons in the Abyss, and Show No Mercy

the DVD "THE BIG 4" IS A MUST HAVE

My favorite Slayer record has always been Hell Awaits...Reign In Blood isn't too far behind, though. Just pure insanity when I first heard it over 20 years ago...

The Beatles are my all time favorite band. They're the whole reason I even got into music. As for The Beatles and Heavy Metal...as mentioned, the obvious thing that comes to mind is Helter Skelter. Also mentioned, there were plenty of other artists that "had a hand" in inventing Heavy Metal...

But, FOR ME... The band that represents the true birth of Metal--the dark, doomy riffs...the horror movie lyrics... the look and image--was Black Sabbath, hands down. Instead of having an occasional heavy song like other bands, Sabbath pretty much made that their overall sound and laid the ground work for most of what "I" consider Metal...the Priests, the Maidens. Mercyful Fate..etc.

Let me add... The one thing that I've always found interesting about The Who and other 60's bands was that they were trying to Rock hard.. But, when you listen to their studio records it sounds sooo tame. I Can See For Miles never seemed that loud or hard rocking to me...not even by 60's standards.... But, when these guys got on stage and had to drive their amps for volume and got those power tubes cooking...that's when things got massive!!!!

I usually prefer live recordings of The Who from that period over the studio tracks. Hendrix too.

baroque said:

im sorry but the right answer is jesus. jesus invented heavy metal duh. remember the greatest thing that the devil can do is make people believe he is not real..

Ohh....Larwd.

Graycap23 said:

baroque said:

im sorry but the right answer is jesus. jesus invented heavy metal duh. remember the greatest thing that the devil can do is make people believe he is not real..

Ohh....Larwd.

nd33 said:

novabrkr said:

I'll take a stab.

1 - Tight arrangement. Harmonically rich. Dynamic. Intricate harmony arrangement reminiscent of a soft horn section that really drives the tune along.

2 - Unmemorable, unremarkable rash of noise. These guys need to write some better songs before they hit the studio again. And get a new singer, he has absolutely no range LOL! Kudos for trying though

Ohh....Larwd.

paintsprayer said:

JOHN 1980: "That was one of the earliest heavy-metal records made. Paul's contribution was the way Ringo played the drums."

He is refering to Ticket to Ride.

I can't find the source right now, but I want to say The Playboy Interviews

okay, but they also thought Obladi Oblada was reggae

now, that's cool that they even knew what reggae was in 1968, but I don't hear it other than the "life goes on, brah" lyrics

paintsprayer said:

JOHN 1980: "That was one of the earliest heavy-metal records made. Paul's contribution was the way Ringo played the drums."

He is refering to Ticket to Ride.

I can't find the source right now, but I want to say The Playboy Interviews

I've always gotten a heavy funk feel off "TtR"

NDRU said:

paintsprayer said:

JOHN 1980: "That was one of the earliest heavy-metal records made. Paul's contribution was the way Ringo played the drums."

He is refering to Ticket to Ride.

I can't find the source right now, but I want to say The Playboy Interviews

okay, but they also thought Obladi Oblada was reggae

now, that's cool that they even knew what reggae was in 1968, but I don't hear it other than the "life goes on, brah" lyrics

I can hear defintiely the reggae upstroke.

Ah, but that one's sort of true. Paul intended to write a reggae-influenced tune with that one. It just sort of ended up being, uhm, something very different.

PFunkjazz said:

NDRU said:

okay, but they also thought Obladi Oblada was reggae

now, that's cool that they even knew what reggae was in 1968, but I don't hear it other than the "life goes on, brah" lyrics

I can hear defintiely the reggae upstroke.

yeah me too, but does the song sound like reggae?

NDRU said:

802 said:

No they didn't invent heavy metal, but they were apparently the first artist/band to use distorted guitars on a record.

Apparently this is the first example of distortion guitar, there was a defect in the guitarists amp during recording. Bloody great song.

nd33 said:

NDRU said:

yeah me too, but does the song sound like reggae?

It sounds old school ska-ish...

ok, I guess I see what you mean, I just never really thought it did myself

gemari77 said:

Let me add... The one thing that I've always found interesting about The Who and other 60's bands was that they were trying to Rock hard.. But, when you listen to their studio records it sounds sooo tame. I Can See For Miles never seemed that loud or hard rocking to me...not even by 60's standards.... But, when these guys got on stage and had to drive their amps for volume and got those power tubes cooking...that's when things got massive!!!!

I usually prefer live recordings of The Who from that period over the studio tracks. Hendrix too.

The Who "Live At Leeds" put them on another level.