Just between you & me, all that stuff from "before" the Beatles is just propaganda created by the Nixon administration from around the time of the "moon landing"
well some beatles fans surely act like there was no rock or great music before they came along
oh gawd!!! that goes for Elvis too...
(In a deep voice): "Before Elvis, there was no one".
my friend played this for me way back when, to show me how awesome Motley Crue was. He did not know who wrote this song, but he hated the Beatles Love the irony
The Beatles aren't heavy metal. They're pop. Maybe rock, prog-rock maybe even r&b. Heavy metal? No ways. Gotta be very psychedelic blues rock.
I'd point to Hendrix, Cream and The Yardbirds as one of the first heavy metal bands/artists. That's what Jimi going to Britain was allabout. It was blues-based psychedelic jammming. The actual genre isn't identified until after Jimi dies and the other two had disbanded. Around 1971 Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath and Deep Purple come along, but as far as I'm concerned, the first Funkadelic records on WESTBOUND and OSMIUM are bluesy and very psychedelic as anything else. They debuted in 1970.
The thing about heavy metal is ya gotta "walk the talk" and play live. Beatles didn't perform live much especially from that HELTER SKELTER period. All those bands listed above played live.
You people are clueless. The Beatles, specifically Paul, recorded Helper Skelter to intentionally make it the heaviest song ever. He thought I could see for miles by the Who was the heaviest song ever and wanted to make something Heavier. Helter Skelter predates Zeppelin and Black Sabbath. Doesn't predate Hendrix so it may be an argument there. With all of that in mind you can argue that the Beatles created Heavy Metal and there's no argument at all against them being pioneers in the genre.
Looks like you just lost your own argument. So it's The Who, not the Beatles, who had a hand in creating the heavy metal genre. I'd have probably thrown in the Who, just that I've never been much of a fan. When Led Zep first came to US their main competition for attractingthe big audience was The Who.
As per the Beatles: I overlooked "Come Together" and "Revolution". I'm willing to admit I sold The Beatles short, because of their lack of playing live and touring. In any case, Jimi's three studio albums The Yardbirds and Cream make a case for setting up heavy metal as a genre without the Beatles.
The Beatles aren't heavy metal. They're pop. Maybe rock, prog-rock maybe even r&b. Heavy metal? No ways. Gotta be very psychedelic blues rock.
I'd point to Hendrix, Cream and The Yardbirds as one of the first heavy metal bands/artists. That's what Jimi going to Britain was allabout. It was blues-based psychedelic jammming. The actual genre isn't identified until after Jimi dies and the other two had disbanded. Around 1971 Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath and Deep Purple come along, but as far as I'm concerned, the first Funkadelic records on WESTBOUND and OSMIUM are bluesy and very psychedelic as anything else. They debuted in 1970.
The thing about heavy metal is ya gotta "walk the talk" and play live. Beatles didn't perform live much especially from that HELTER SKELTER period. All those bands listed above played live.
You people are clueless. The Beatles, specifically Paul, recorded Helper Skelter to intentionally make it the heaviest song ever. He thought I could see for miles by the Who was the heaviest song ever and wanted to make something Heavier. Helter Skelter predates Zeppelin and Black Sabbath. Doesn't predate Hendrix so it may be an argument there. With all of that in mind you can argue that the Beatles created Heavy Metal and there's no argument at all against them being pioneers in the genre.
. According to your argument, the credit should go to the who then since they wrote i can see for miles before helter skelter and they inspired helter skelter
You people are clueless. The Beatles, specifically Paul, recorded Helper Skelter to intentionally make it the heaviest song ever. He thought I could see for miles by the Who was the heaviest song ever and wanted to make something Heavier. Helter Skelter predates Zeppelin and Black Sabbath. Doesn't predate Hendrix so it may be an argument there. With all of that in mind you can argue that the Beatles created Heavy Metal and there's no argument at all against them being pioneers in the genre.
. According to your argument, the credit should go to the who then since they wrote i can see for miles before helter skelter and they inspired helter skelter
No, the Beatles did not invent metal. But their style of layered playing in which instruments are constantly supporting each other to give a very simple song a huge sound. That laid the groundwork for Black Sabbath to do something similar with a hell of a lot more volume and overdriven guitars.
You people are clueless. The Beatles, specifically Paul, recorded Helper Skelter to intentionally make it the heaviest song ever. He thought I could see for miles by the Who was the heaviest song ever and wanted to make something Heavier. Helter Skelter predates Zeppelin and Black Sabbath. Doesn't predate Hendrix so it may be an argument there. With all of that in mind you can argue that the Beatles created Heavy Metal and there's no argument at all against them being pioneers in the genre.
. According to your argument, the credit should go to the who then since they wrote i can see for miles before helter skelter and they inspired helter skelter
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Good to see someone else sees the big hole in your "logic".
Should serve as a warning. Next time you word a response as a putdown, make sure you know where your argument is going.
No, the Beatles did not invent metal. But their style of layered playing in which instruments are constantly supporting each other to give a very simple song a huge sound. That laid the groundwork for Black Sabbath to do something similar with a hell of a lot more volume and overdriven guitars.
And even that I'm not sure they (Black Sabbath) didn't get from King Crimson. Fripp borrowed heavily from free jazz in which instruments would be soloing often in parallel though discordant lines. ref Ornette Coleman Albert Ayler, Cecil Taylor, Sun Ra.
As was said above, The Beatles were just so damn popular you'd think they invented music.
No, the Beatles did not invent metal. But their style of layered playing in which instruments are constantly supporting each other to give a very simple song a huge sound. That laid the groundwork for Black Sabbath to do something similar with a hell of a lot more volume and overdriven guitars.
And even that I'm not sure they (Black Sabbath) didn't get from King Crimson. Fripp borrowed heavily from free jazz in which instruments would be soloing often in parallel though discordant lines. ref Ornette Coleman Albert Ayler, Cecil Taylor, Sun Ra.
As was said above, The Beatles were just so damn popular you'd think they invented music.
im sorry but the right answer is jesus. jesus invented heavy metal duh. remember the greatest thing that the devil can do is make people believe he is not real..
You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton