I can't decide which ones were worse guys:

The new remixes on the Thriller 25 album or the remixes on Blood On The Dancefloor.

WTF, guys.

I just read a report that said the fingerprints on the syringe that contained the lethal propofol dose don't belong to Murray OR Michael.

So if Murray didn't inject Michael, and Michael didn't inject himself (which I never believed)..... WHO THE FUCK DID? I'm so upset right now :'(

Militant said:

WTF, guys.

I just read a report that said the fingerprints on the syringe that contained the lethal propofol dose don't belong to Murray OR Michael.

So if Murray didn't inject Michael, and Michael didn't inject himself (which I never believed)..... WHO THE FUCK DID? I'm so upset right now :'(

Militant said:

WTF, guys.

I just read a report that said the fingerprints on the syringe that contained the lethal propofol dose don't belong to Murray OR Michael.

So if Murray didn't inject Michael, and Michael didn't inject himself (which I never believed)..... WHO THE FUCK DID? I'm so upset right now :'(

Awwww this is frustrating and upsetting!

hmm but if that's true, fingerprints might belong to whoever sold the syringe to Murray and Murray might have worn gloves when injecting propofol 2 Michael...I just don't think it's even possible for anyone to step into the room when Murray was 'gone' for 2 mnutes to use toilet and inject propofol to Michael...AHH MY HEAD IS ON FIRE!!

Whoever injected that shit Conrad Murray didn't even know how to perform CPR properly and he waited too long to call 911.....ughh I just want to get to the bottom of this already

Militant said:

WTF, guys.

I just read a report that said the fingerprints on the syringe that contained the lethal propofol dose don't belong to Murray OR Michael.

So if Murray didn't inject Michael, and Michael didn't inject himself (which I never believed)..... WHO THE FUCK DID? I'm so upset right now :'(

WHAT?!

Militant said:

WTF, guys.

I just read a report that said the fingerprints on the syringe that contained the lethal propofol dose don't belong to Murray OR Michael.

So if Murray didn't inject Michael, and Michael didn't inject himself (which I never believed)..... WHO THE FUCK DID? I'm so upset right now :'(

Militant my man, listen...

As someone who's had IV's administered on myself and blood drawn out of my arm on several occasions, I've never once had a nurse or doctor ever do that without wearing gloves. It's part of sterile technique. So it's not surprising that Murray's prints aren't on there. Michael probably never even handled the medication personally since his trusting self left it in the hands of the "capable" doctor. Patients don't handle IV medications on their own, nor do they handle syringes, unless they are type 1 diabetic.

I don't believe Michael ever tried to inject himself. If he did, he'da passed out before he had a chance to remove the syringe from his arm. Propofol is that quick.

And it's not likely that those prints are from the manufacturer. Sterile syringes are pre-packaged in plastic sheathing before before they are put into a box and shipped. I worked in a pharmacy in high school, I should know. The packaging looks like this:

However, if there is cause to believe Murray had an accomplice, I'd be betting my money on whoever he called the morning of the 25. I remember reading he called his nuses to remove what he described as "boxes of used syringes" from his office. More than likely they knew about this setup, and perhaps one of them was present when this happened. We'll probably never really know though...because the fucking LAPD erased the security camera tapes of that morning.

ThruTheEyesOfWonder said:

Militant said:

WTF, guys.

I just read a report that said the fingerprints on the syringe that contained the lethal propofol dose don't belong to Murray OR Michael.

So if Murray didn't inject Michael, and Michael didn't inject himself (which I never believed)..... WHO THE FUCK DID? I'm so upset right now :'(

Militant my man, listen...

As someone who's had IV's administered on myself and blood drawn out of my arm on several occasions, I've never once had a nurse or doctor ever do that without wearing gloves. It's part of sterile technique. So it's not surprising that Murray's prints aren't on there. Michael probably never even handled the medication personally since his trusting self left it in the hands of the "capable" doctor. Patients don't handle IV medications on their own, nor do they handle syringes, unless they are type 1 diabetic.

I don't believe Michael ever tried to inject himself. If he did, he'da passed out before he had a chance to remove the syringe from his arm. Propofol is that quick.

And it's not likely that those prints are from the manufacturer. Sterile syringes are pre-packaged in plastic sheathing before before they are put into a box and shipped. I worked in a pharmacy in high school, I should know. The packaging looks like this:

However, if there is cause to believe Murray had an accomplice, I'd be betting my money on whoever he called the morning of the 25. I remember reading he called his nuses to remove what he described as "boxes of used syringes" from his office. More than likely they knew about this setup, and perhaps one of them was present when this happened. We'll probably never really know though...because the fucking LAPD erased the security camera tapes of that morning.

Right. If Murray used gloves, then it's not so shocking that his prints are on them. I was kinda because I'm thinking if you're gonna be professional, or in this case, sneaky, you would wear gloves. And Murray was the only other person we know was there besides a dying Michael. But yeah that security camera footage was key and the LAPD proves once again what a bunch of screw-ups they can be.

^^ All injections these days would be administered with gloves so no surprise Murray's prints aren't there.

MJ's prints not being on it is no surprise though it doesn't help the defence claim.

As for who's they are - didn't Murray get the security guards to collect stuff. Chances are they belong to one of them - again no surprise.

Swa said:

^^ All injections these days would be administered with gloves so no surprise Murray's prints aren't there.

MJ's prints not being on it is no surprise though it doesn't help the defence claim.

As for who's they are - didn't Murray get the security guards to collect stuff. Chances are they belong to one of them - again no surprise.

Exactly.

How will the HARDCORE Prince *only* fans handle this...

Prince pays tribute to Michael Jackson with “Don’t Stop ‘Til You Get Enough” cover [Video] | Live Music

It’s very rare to see a legend perform another legend’s music, unless it’s for a special televised event. HoweverPrince, who is forever setting trends and breaking molds, decided to pay tribute to the his fellow icon, the lateMichael Jackson on the first date of his 21 residency at the Forum in Los Angeles, California.

The leader of The New Power Generation dipped into MJ’s 1979 Grammy Award-winning classic ”Don’t Stop ‘Til You Get Enough”, from Michael’s fifth solo album, Off The Wall, before leading into Prince’s own “Cool” – watch below.

[Prince video snip - luv4u]

*** Of course this isn't the first time P has performed MJ songs - but now the press are catching on.

I understand that these things are usually done with gloves - but the article said that this is part of Murray's defence strategy - that his prints aren't on the syringe.

Even the newest of law students would say "well they used gloves" to counter that. So the fact that it's part of his defence means there must be more to it than that.

Also, if Michael was being given injections of various things on a regular basis - and it's been said that the lethal dose was a desperate attempt to get Michael to sleep after having tried other things first - then it's very possible that by this stage they'd simply stopped adhering to all the "correct" methods. I mean, it's already been established that this wasn't the correct environment to administer propofol anyway, so I doubt very much that Murray would follow the correct procedures.

Militant said:

I understand that these things are usually done with gloves - but the article said that this is part of Murray's defence strategy - that his prints aren't on the syringe.

Even the newest of law students would say "well they used gloves" to counter that. So the fact that it's part of his defence means there must be more to it than that.

Also, if Michael was being given injections of various things on a regular basis - and it's been said that the lethal dose was a desperate attempt to get Michael to sleep after having tried other things first - then it's very possible that by this stage they'd simply stopped adhering to all the "correct" methods. I mean, it's already been established that this wasn't the correct environment to administer propofol anyway, so I doubt very much that Murray would follow the correct procedures.

Militant, if that's the strategy they're going for, that shows how WEAK their case is.

Wasn't their case supposed to PROVE that MICHAEL himself injected that last dosage? His prints weren't on it either.

The district attorney would of course counter that he wore gloves. And they ain't even saying another person accompany them. If they did, they would've mentioned it by now.

That's why I'm all at the panicking here...well it looks like it, so tell me if I'm prejudging.

Swa said:

How will the HARDCORE Prince *only* fans handle this...

Prince pays tribute to Michael Jackson with “Don’t Stop ‘Til You Get Enough” cover [Video] | Live Music

It’s very rare to see a legend perform another legend’s music, unless it’s for a special televised event. However Prince, who is forever setting trends and breaking molds, decided to pay tribute to the his fellow icon, the late Michael Jackson on the first date of his 21 residency at the Forum in Los Angeles, California.

The leader of The New Power Generation dipped into MJ’s 1979 Grammy Award-winning classic ”Don’t Stop ‘Til You Get Enough”, from Michael’s fifth solo album, Off The Wall, before leading into Prince’s own “Cool” – watch below.

[Prince video snip - luv4u]

*** Of course this isn't the first time P has performed MJ songs - but now the press are catching on.

Cool.

Swa said:

How will the HARDCORE Prince *only* fans handle this...

Prince pays tribute to Michael Jackson with “Don’t Stop ‘Til You Get Enough” cover [Video] | Live Music

It’s very rare to see a legend perform another legend’s music, unless it’s for a special televised event. HoweverPrince, who is forever setting trends and breaking molds, decided to pay tribute to the his fellow icon, the lateMichael Jackson on the first date of his 21 residency at the Forum in Los Angeles, California.

The leader of The New Power Generation dipped into MJ’s 1979 Grammy Award-winning classic ”Don’t Stop ‘Til You Get Enough”, from Michael’s fifth solo album, Off The Wall, before leading into Prince’s own “Cool” – watch below.

[Prince video snip - luv4u]

*** Of course this isn't the first time P has performed MJ songs - but now the press are catching on.

You already know how they'll react

In September 2011, Joe Vogel will release his new book, Man in the Music: The Creative Life and Work of Michael Jackson. Joe painstakingly researched Michael’s artistry for over five years, speaking with many people who knew and worked with Michael during his life. We have had brief glimpses into this highly anticipated book, most recently through Joe’s review and discussion of "Hollywood Tonight",in the Huffington Post.

Many of Michael’s fans and advocates, are well aware of the kinds of publications and touted ”tell-all” books and articles, written by purported experts on Michael’s life and person. As we stay the course in the marathon of truth, we are finally able to anticipate a book that will reveal who this man really was through his lyrics and music; his deep commitment and dedication to his art; the basic inner core of Michael that reached out to all of us as he spoke of injustice, bigotry and the need to make a real change in the world; his love for all children, young and older; and his vision for a better tomorrow.

Militant said:

I understand that these things are usually done with gloves - but the article said that this is part of Murray's defence strategy - that his prints aren't on the syringe.

Even the newest of law students would say "well they used gloves" to counter that. So the fact that it's part of his defence means there must be more to it than that.

Also, if Michael was being given injections of various things on a regular basis - and it's been said that the lethal dose was a desperate attempt to get Michael to sleep after having tried other things first - then it's very possible that by this stage they'd simply stopped adhering to all the "correct" methods. I mean, it's already been established that this wasn't the correct environment to administer propofol anyway, so I doubt very much that Murray would follow the correct procedures.

The gloves would be to protect Murray - it's first rule. Never administer anything without gloves due to infections, risk of HIV and other diseases etc. So I doubt that as lacks as Murray was he would put *his own* life at risk by injecting without wearing gloves.

Swa said:

How will the HARDCORE Prince *only* fans handle this...

Prince pays tribute to Michael Jackson with “Don’t Stop ‘Til You Get Enough” cover [Video] | Live Music

It’s very rare to see a legend perform another legend’s music, unless it’s for a special televised event. HoweverPrince, who is forever setting trends and breaking molds, decided to pay tribute to the his fellow icon, the lateMichael Jackson on the first date of his 21 residency at the Forum in Los Angeles, California.

The leader of The New Power Generation dipped into MJ’s 1979 Grammy Award-winning classic ”Don’t Stop ‘Til You Get Enough”, from Michael’s fifth solo album, Off The Wall, before leading into Prince’s own “Cool” – watch below.

[Prince video snip - luv4u]

*** Of course this isn't the first time P has performed MJ songs - but now the press are catching on.

Yayyyyyyy Hasn't he been playing Shake Ur Body Down 2 The Ground as MJ tribute when he was touring in Europe? I found out here at Prince.org that Prince had actually played MJ songs at his concerts even when MJ was alive...^_^ I personally think he should play Dirty Diana...XD

Swa said:

Militant said:

I understand that these things are usually done with gloves - but the article said that this is part of Murray's defence strategy - that his prints aren't on the syringe.

Even the newest of law students would say "well they used gloves" to counter that. So the fact that it's part of his defence means there must be more to it than that.

Also, if Michael was being given injections of various things on a regular basis - and it's been said that the lethal dose was a desperate attempt to get Michael to sleep after having tried other things first - then it's very possible that by this stage they'd simply stopped adhering to all the "correct" methods. I mean, it's already been established that this wasn't the correct environment to administer propofol anyway, so I doubt very much that Murray would follow the correct procedures.

The gloves would be to protect Murray - it's first rule. Never administer anything without gloves due to infections, risk of HIV and other diseases etc. So I doubt that as lacks as Murray was he would put *his own* life at risk by injecting without wearing gloves.

But he WASN'T putting his own life at risk and he knew that. He knew the syringes were clean because they were brand new. And he knew there was no risk of HIV because he knew MJ's medical history.

I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that after being awake all night, and all the previous day (where he went to a strip club and had been drinking, no?) that he didn't follow protocol, especially given he wasn't following any sort of medical protocol simply by virtue of what was going on.

Furthermore, even the greenest lawyer wouldn't use "his prints aren't on the syringe" as a defence strategy, UNLESS they had a reasonable rebuttal to the OBVIOUS instant counter, which is "he wore gloves". You feel me? His lawyers aren't stupid and I really don't believe that's ALL they can come up with, ya know?

Anyway - the POINT is that somebody else's prints are on the syringe and they have yet to identify who this mystery person is. Also, the original article also suggested the defence will try to link the mystery prints to the large sum of money that also went missing that day.

[Edited 4/17/11 19:36pm]

^ There ain't no mystery person. You really gonna buy that?

[Edited 4/17/11 19:58pm]

Emancipation89 said:

Swa said:

How will the HARDCORE Prince *only* fans handle this...

Prince pays tribute to Michael Jackson with “Don’t Stop ‘Til You Get Enough” cover [Video] | Live Music

It’s very rare to see a legend perform another legend’s music, unless it’s for a special televised event. HoweverPrince, who is forever setting trends and breaking molds, decided to pay tribute to the his fellow icon, the lateMichael Jackson on the first date of his 21 residency at the Forum in Los Angeles, California.

The leader of The New Power Generation dipped into MJ’s 1979 Grammy Award-winning classic ”Don’t Stop ‘Til You Get Enough”, from Michael’s fifth solo album, Off The Wall, before leading into Prince’s own “Cool” – watch below.

[Prince video snip - luv4u]

*** Of course this isn't the first time P has performed MJ songs - but now the press are catching on.

Yayyyyyyy Hasn't he been playing Shake Ur Body Down 2 The Ground as MJ tribute when he was touring in Europe? I found out here at Prince.org that Prince had actually played MJ songs at his concerts even when MJ was alive...^_^

There was a real mutual respect with Michael and Prince.

Timmy84 said:

^ There ain't no mystery person. You really gonna buy that?

[Edited 4/17/11 19:58pm]

so whose are the fingerprints? who took the money? and what's the deal with the LAPD losing the CCTV footage?

I really do not believe this whole thing is as a simple as Murray injecting Michael with too much propofol by accident and then trying to cover it up. No way is it that simple. There's still too many unanswered questions. Doesn't mean I don't think Murray played a part or doesn't deserve to go down. I just think there is way more to this than meets the eye.

Militant said:

Swa said:

The gloves would be to protect Murray - it's first rule. Never administer anything without gloves due to infections, risk of HIV and other diseases etc. So I doubt that as lacks as Murray was he would put *his own* life at risk by injecting without wearing gloves.

But he WASN'T putting his own life at risk and he knew that. He knew the syringes were clean because they were brand new. And he knew there was no risk of HIV because he knew MJ's medical history.

I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that after being awake all night, and all the previous day (where he went to a strip club and had been drinking, no?) that he didn't follow protocol, especially given he wasn't following any sort of medical protocol simply by virtue of what was going on.

Furthermore, even the greenest lawyer wouldn't use "his prints aren't on the syringe" as a defence strategy, UNLESS they had a reasonable rebuttal to the OBVIOUS instant counter, which is "he wore gloves". You feel me? His lawyers aren't stupid and I really don't believe that's ALL they can come up with, ya know?

Anyway - the POINT is that somebody else's prints are on the syringe and they have yet to identify who this mystery person is. Also, the original article also suggested the defence will try to link the mystery prints to the large sum of money that also went missing that day.

[Edited 4/17/11 19:36pm]

Militant, even if you are going to administer any form of medicine through a syringe on your own family, you'd still wear gloves. It's part of sterile technique for a reason. If you don't know follow proper protocol, you're putting both parties at risk of bacterial infection, especially the person you're injecting. Bacterial infection would've set in right away if Michael wasn't treated properly on several occasions. And besides...the prosecution could counter by looking at OTHER syringes used on previous occasions (which I heard was found, or not...don't quote me) and see if those mystery prints are there. Or if Murray's are on them. If they're not, then he used gloves. If they are, then he didn't and there's more weight to the defense's theory.

I wouldn't put it past Murray to skip sterile technique. Hell, did you know doctors aren't required by law to know how to perform CPR? Nurses, firemen, paramedics, yes...doctors no. But I digress...

I've seen lawyers say some pretty stupid things for a defense. For gosh's sakes, part of their defense is that Michael injected himself, when we all know that's not true.

I personally believe someone maybe have come into the room to help Murray cover up. Only two possibilities could've happened. Either Murray used gloves, killed Michael, and then called someone to help him cover up the crime. OR some mystery intruder came in and injected Michael himself.

The former seems more plausible to me.

I say start tracing all the people Murray called that night, including his nurses, and fingerprint them all. Then compare. Or run those prints thru the national criminal fingerprint database, if they really wanna waste tax payer money. But seriously...they'd have better luck with those closest to Murray.

^ Yep especially that last part.

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Timmy84 said:

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they should do a Michael Jackson light show....or a Moonwalker reboot!

bboy87 said:

Timmy84 said:

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they should do a Michael Jackson light show....or a Moonwalker reboot!

Yeah that'll be a good idea.

bboy87 said:

Timmy84 said:

[img:$uid]http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljsxisQRCl1qcsr0lo1_500.gif[/img:$uid]

they should do a Michael Jackson light show....or a Moonwalker reboot!

I second this idea....

I am TOTALLY loving that gif. *right-click saved*