papaa said:

As am I. Come back soon like I know you will, now, ya hear?

when it comes to MJ on the Personal Front I don't really care.I Know the Cat has taken Care of His Family&Paid a High Cost for Success&whatnot.I think the Cat is one of the Greatest Musical Figures Ever Period but also a VIctim of His Own Excess.I think He has Issues but I also think it's a Combination of Factors.One He is a Cat that brings things on Himself but on the other coin of the flip the Media is a still hung up on Him.I don't believe the Cat hurt any Kids But I do Believe that at a point His Life He stopped Growth.lets Be Real everybody in Hollywood is Spoiled but in different ways&some never get out of that Vibe&element.Michael is a Cat that Manipulates certain siuations&some work for Him&some don't.but I think the Brother should be left alone on certain levels.but I tip my Hat to a Cat that still has People talking about Him at every turn some 30 plus Years later.

Essence said:

THIS COULD READ AS THE FOLLOWING...

"Co-sign. For some reason fans of Prince the man (in addition to just his music) come across as really insipid and defensive to the point of living in denial of facts. I shudder to imagine the dialogue over at Prince fansites. :O"

FYI, I occasionally visit and post on MJ message boards and find that moderators there are rather dogmatic in the way of handling criticism of the man. I've busted many a spleen over Jackson's misadventures only to find my posts edited or deleted.

OK, now I'm out, and I mean it this time. Man tire!

PS: SuperNova, I know you'll miss me most when I'm gone so here's a just for you. God knows you need one.

Oh Yeah alot of the MJ haters ain't got nothing better else to do so they spread there Hateriod up on this.they are just Jelousy because they can't get on any of the rides at "NEVERLAND" that's all.they don't know nothing about MJ&His History so they gotta spread Da hate oh well MJ Police Says Let them have it!!!

". Michael's very wise about the press and the music industry, but apart from that, he's got the mentality of a 10 year old. " so how the hell can he be allowed to raise kids? what will he teach to his children ( who have virtually no mother, will they have real friends, I mean kids who don't sleep with their "father")? to live in a shell fuckin neverland like him ,to adore him because the world is evil just like the tabloïds, no surprise if they turn soon to be like him, I doubt that MJ's fans will really help them to get in touch with reality
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Lots of children share their parents' beds and lots of children grow up in one parent families.

Nothing to be ashamed about.

YALL SICK FOR THINKING HE IS.

[/quote] THIS COULD READ AS THE FOLLOWING...

"Co-sign. For some reason fans of Prince the man (in addition to just his music) come across as really insipid and defensive to the point of living in denial of facts. I shudder to imagine the dialogue over at Prince fansites. :O"[/quote]

Not really, it was especially for the MJ fans posting on Prince.Orgs Non-P music forum. The ones who are seemingly insipid and living in denial of the facts, show me Prince fans acting the same way and only then it applies.

Cloudbuster: It is not normal for a grown man to have other parents' children in their bed, you would not excuse anyone else of this but MJ.

Let alone a man who dyes his own little boy's hair blonde...

Essence said:

What is normal? Who made the rules? I crashed out in friend's beds who were much older than me. Wow. What a frightening thought. Have you ever wondered that maybe it depends on how well you know someone.


Prince Michael's mother has blonde hair.

Two boys of a couple I know both have blonde hair. The parents both have black hair. The male is black-skinned. The female is white-skinned. All their children are white.

Crikey!! Isn't life so wonderful that it throws up these little oddities for people to get in a flap about.

Cloudbuster said:

C'mon though that hair was evidently dyed. You sound like MJ whining about his father's blue eyes and puberty adapting his face naturally, skin disease etc etc, fine all these things are true on freak occasions but to such a great degree all within one man's immediate family?

Some of you people care WAY too much about trivial things that shouldn't matter to you at all.I couldn't care less if Michael dyes his son's hair blond!! Jeezz!!

DavidEye said:

You say that but such decisions are usually made by teens experimenting with an image not a father burning his sons scalp with peroxide because he wants Macauley Culkin for a son.

I just realized that posting a thread like this is a bad idea, its funny how most of ya'll argue back and forth trying too hard to make a point.

I just made my opinion according 2 what I saw and think, I WASN'T trying to make a point.

Umm... did I miss Michael saying that he dyes his kids' hair blond? Where was this mentioned, or is this speculation?

Cloudbuster said:

Number 1: the mother has red hair Number 2: Michael lied about the mother of the third child so I don't even believe any of these children are his biological children.

He looked some completely uncomfortable trying to feed is his. He is lost.

Rhondab said:

WHAT ARE YOU BLATHERING ABOUT?

Debbie Rowe, the child's mother, has BLONDE hair.
[This message was edited Fri Feb 7 14:02:05 PST 2003 by papaa]

DavidEye said:

thank you who Cares?? Mike has some Issues but He is Cool.

papaa said:

ONLY 2 FUCKING OPERATIONS??? Even back in 93 he had to be in the double digits when it came to face-rearranging.

Now matter how you defend the guy...he's totally FUCKED in the head. I do feel sorry for him because I think he is truly mentally ill. I feel more sorry for those kids and the way they are being brought up.

papaa said:

Haters grasp for Straws with MJ without anything to back things up with.MJ is cool but has a few Issues like us all.