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Reply #30 posted 02/28/11 10:19am

Timmy84

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I like the colours and the overall aesthetic of the video a lot, but I get the feeling that it doesn't match the music too well. It might be also a bit too artsy for that part of her audience that her huge record sales rely on. "Pokerface" or "Bad Romance" it certainly isn't in that regard. On the other hand, it's somewhat reminiscent of the "Alejandro"(sic?) video and that got played quite a lot too.

I thought I was the only one who got that connection. It was almost as if she was trying to do a weirder version of that video and wasn't that one about seven minutes long too?

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Reply #31 posted 02/28/11 10:26am

trueiopian

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armpit said:

I still can't warm up to the song, although I agree with and appreciate the primary message in it.

As far as Gaga herself goes, she looks beautiful in the video and has a GREAT body.

And it's a good video - visually it's an eyegasm, but I'm still waiting to see Gaga just pull it back a little and not be so over the top with everything all the time. There's something about her I like, but her whole image is just too much for me and that's what keeps me at a distance.

I'm always curious to hear why Prince fans have a hard time digesting LG. She reminds me, right now, of Purple Rain era Prince with the decadence, weird shit, concepts no one understands, etc... Except the technology is there to make videos with horns on her face and shoulders and shit.

Isn't she just celebrating common ideas like sex and politics and love, like Prince was, and encasing it in a weird vehicle, like Prince did?

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Prince never tried to be weird. Gaga does all the time. There's a difference between the two.

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Reply #32 posted 02/28/11 10:27am

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I just realized what this reminds me of.

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Reply #33 posted 02/28/11 10:31am

Timmy84

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I just realized what this reminds me of.

OH MY GOD!!! You got a great point there!!! Even the song has traces of it! eek

I'm hearing the song and "Can You Feel It"... wow, it's almost the same song about almost the same thing (unity) and the videos... I didn't even put the two together. Actually makes more sense than the Madonna connection now.

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Reply #34 posted 02/28/11 10:44am

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Timmy84 said:

musicjunky318 said:

I just realized what this reminds me of.

OH MY GOD!!! You got a great point there!!! Even the song has traces of it! eek

I'm hearing the song and "Can You Feel It"... wow, it's almost the same song about almost the same thing (unity) and the videos... I didn't even put the two together. Actually makes more sense than the Madonna connection now.

It's a jack of both. BTW sounds like Express Yourself but has Can You Feel It's lyrics (message) & video.

I don't see what's so original about this woman. I really don't. It's completely clear where she gets inspiration from.

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Reply #35 posted 02/28/11 10:46am

Timmy84

musicjunky318 said:

Timmy84 said:

OH MY GOD!!! You got a great point there!!! Even the song has traces of it! eek

I'm hearing the song and "Can You Feel It"... wow, it's almost the same song about almost the same thing (unity) and the videos... I didn't even put the two together. Actually makes more sense than the Madonna connection now.

It's a jack of both. BTW sounds like Express Yourself but has Can You Feel It's lyrics (message) & video.

I don't see what's so original about this woman. I really don't. It's completely clear where she gets inspiration from.

The way she sang it was more like Michael than Madonna though. lol But yeah it was both at the same time.

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Reply #36 posted 02/28/11 10:47am

trueiopian

falloff

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Reply #37 posted 02/28/11 10:51am

Timmy84

"I'm on the right track baby I was born this way..."

"Can you feel it?! Can you feel it?! Can you feel it?!"

falloff

Someone should mash the songs together. evillol And the videos. giggle

You know, just for shits and giggles. lol

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Reply #38 posted 02/28/11 10:51am

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the choreography is... neutral

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Reply #39 posted 02/28/11 10:54am

Spinlight

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trueiopian said:

Spinlight said:

I'm always curious to hear why Prince fans have a hard time digesting LG. She reminds me, right now, of Purple Rain era Prince with the decadence, weird shit, concepts no one understands, etc... Except the technology is there to make videos with horns on her face and shoulders and shit.

Isn't she just celebrating common ideas like sex and politics and love, like Prince was, and encasing it in a weird vehicle, like Prince did?

neutral

Prince never tried to be weird. Gaga does all the time. There's a difference between the two.

No matter how you slice the word "tried", their efforts are much the same. The difference is Lady Gaga isn't a peekaboo bunny like Prince was.

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Reply #40 posted 02/28/11 10:55am

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Timmy84 said:

"I'm on the right track baby I was born this way..."

"Can you feel it?! Can you feel it?! Can you feel it?!"

falloff

Someone should mash the songs together. evillol And the videos. giggle

You know, just for shits and giggles. lol

I'm about to do it.

They already did a whole bunch of vs. Express Yourself ones.

eek falloff

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Reply #41 posted 02/28/11 10:57am

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GOR-GEOUS! love

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Reply #42 posted 02/28/11 10:58am

Timmy84

musicjunky318 said:

Timmy84 said:

"I'm on the right track baby I was born this way..."

"Can you feel it?! Can you feel it?! Can you feel it?!"

falloff

Someone should mash the songs together. evillol And the videos. giggle

You know, just for shits and giggles. lol

I'm about to do it.

They already did a whole bunch of vs. Express Yourself ones.

eek falloff

lol

To be honest I was actually waiting for some words to appear in the beginning like they did on Star Wars. ufo lol

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Reply #43 posted 02/28/11 10:59am

trueiopian

Spinlight said:

trueiopian said:

neutral

Prince never tried to be weird. Gaga does all the time. There's a difference between the two.

No matter how you slice the word "tried", their efforts are much the same. The difference is Lady Gaga isn't a peekaboo bunny like Prince was.

No, they're not.

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Reply #44 posted 02/28/11 11:20am

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trueiopian said:

Spinlight said:

No matter how you slice the word "tried", their efforts are much the same. The difference is Lady Gaga isn't a peekaboo bunny like Prince was.

No, they're not.

Kinda.

The flashiness, the psycho-eroticness...

And then on the other hand, Prince just had "it." Which Gaga doesn't.

A strawberry mind, a body that's built for 2. A kiss on the spine, we do things we never do.
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Reply #45 posted 02/28/11 11:21am

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LMFAO @ Prince never tried to be weird.

Yeah, nothing about him was staged or put on for spectacle, it all was very natural behavior. falloff

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Reply #46 posted 02/28/11 11:23am

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stevierae said:

trueiopian said:

No, they're not.

Kinda.

The flashiness, the psycho-eroticness...

And then on the other hand, Prince just had "it." Which Gaga doesn't.

But "it" is a relative term.

She may not have it for you.

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Reply #47 posted 02/28/11 11:24am

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She kinda looks like Carrie Bradshaw in the video....

still in dilberations on the song and video, though.

just my 2 cents.

-Madison,

within this loveletter

Special Thanks 2 Paisley Park and The DownLoad Society
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Reply #48 posted 02/28/11 11:31am

trueiopian

stevierae said:

trueiopian said:

No, they're not.

Kinda.

The flashiness, the psycho-eroticness...

And then on the other hand, Prince just had "it." Which Gaga doesn't.

I don't see it.

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Reply #49 posted 02/28/11 11:34am

trueiopian

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LMFAO @ Prince never tried to be weird.

Yeah, nothing about him was staged or put on for spectacle, it all was very natural behavior. falloff

confused ohgoon

Who said he never staged anything to put on a spectacle? falloff I said that he doesn’t intentionally do things or act a certain way during interviews and such to come off weird. He's just an odd, eccentric person by nature. Gaga tries to come off crazy and odd but she just looks desperate.

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Reply #50 posted 02/28/11 11:40am

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trueiopian said:

johnart said:

LMFAO @ Prince never tried to be weird.

Yeah, nothing about him was staged or put on for spectacle, it all was very natural behavior. falloff

confused ohgoon

Who said he never staged anything to put on a spectacle? falloff I said that he doesn’t intentionally do things or act a certain way during interviews and such to come off weird. He's just an odd, eccentric person by nature. Gaga tries to come off crazy and odd but she just looks desperate.

He may not pull that shit so much today, since he's all mature and such. But Really, you think nothing Prince ever did during an interview seemed contrived as hell and just put on to seem weird???

He's lucky for fans who actually buy into the act.lol

So much of his stunts of years past was SOOOO put on that (aside from his genius music of course) this is what made him fabulous and, most importantly FUN.

Madonna did it. Cyndi did it. Mtv was such awesomeness back in the day. You'd never know what kind of show these folk were gonna put on, just for an interview.

Gaga is just following along, and I for one am glad for being entertained once again.

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Reply #51 posted 02/28/11 11:41am

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johnart said:

stevierae said:

Kinda.

The flashiness, the psycho-eroticness...

And then on the other hand, Prince just had "it." Which Gaga doesn't.

But "it" is a relative term.

She may not have it for you.

[Edited 2/28/11 11:31am]

That's very true, I stand corrected on that one!

A strawberry mind, a body that's built for 2. A kiss on the spine, we do things we never do.
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Reply #52 posted 02/28/11 11:45am

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stevierae said:

johnart said:

But "it" is a relative term.

She may not have it for you.

[Edited 2/28/11 11:31am]

That's very true, I stand corrected on that one!

It also depends what we're applying "it" to (talent/looks/marketablity), I suppose. wink

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Reply #53 posted 02/28/11 11:50am

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As a kid who grew up on cable reruns of all the horrible sci-fi and fantasy movies spawned by the success of Star Wars I really loved the video. A times ut was like watching second-generation VHS copies of Kull, The Neverending Story, and Conan. But at times it suffered from a budget that couldn’t support the length. Jumping to and from those shots of her dancing alone or with the skeleton guy made it pretty obvious where the money went.

And as much as I like “Born This Way,” “Express Yourself” was so much better. But I like that Gaga sticks blatant homages to Madonna in her videos in the same way Dr. Dre wore the Parliament/Funkdadelic shirt. Not many people in the music industry who plunder the past have the balls to admit it.

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Reply #54 posted 02/28/11 11:54am

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johnart said:

stevierae said:

That's very true, I stand corrected on that one!

It also depends what we're applying "it" to (talent/looks/marketablity), I suppose. wink

Well for me, it was like... Prince had "it" (and I say 'had' because I'm referring to his more prime years). He was crazy, he was funky, he put on a show like no other person could. I thought that Sheila E. also had that "it" factor, because she was just the coolest fucking woman alive. And the only lesbian crush I harbour.

It was a biased statement, mostly. I now fully realise that. lol But like I said, I like Gaga a lot sometimes. She really does have something working for her. The quirkiness, the strangeness, the flashy electro-pop... all of this amidst partial nudity and extreme hair pieces. I just wish she could be as classy-cool as Sheila. Perhaps Janelle Monae better fits that spot...

A strawberry mind, a body that's built for 2. A kiss on the spine, we do things we never do.
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Reply #55 posted 02/28/11 12:04pm

Timmy84

To be honest, I was waiting for her to go "Luke I am your father".

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Reply #56 posted 02/28/11 12:21pm

johnart

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stevierae said:

johnart said:

It also depends what we're applying "it" to (talent/looks/marketablity), I suppose. wink

Well for me, it was like... Prince had "it" (and I say 'had' because I'm referring to his more prime years). He was crazy, he was funky, he put on a show like no other person could. I thought that Sheila E. also had that "it" factor, because she was just the coolest fucking woman alive. And the only lesbian crush I harbour.

It was a biased statement, mostly. I now fully realise that. lol But like I said, I like Gaga a lot sometimes. She really does have something working for her. The quirkiness, the strangeness, the flashy electro-pop... all of this amidst partial nudity and extreme hair pieces. I just wish she could be as classy-cool as Sheila. Perhaps Janelle Monae better fits that spot...

Classy-cool isn't her schtick. Just like it wasn't Prince's back in the day, or Madonna's. So her over-the-top antics and costumes wouldn't be nearly as effective if she took on that persona IMO. It's sell it all the way or nothing.

I love Janelle and yes, she is Classy Cool and that suits her to a T. nod

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Reply #57 posted 02/28/11 12:33pm

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loved the MJ tribute at the end of the video (the gloves) and the symbolism in that even things from outside this world were influnced by him.

"what's that book where they're all behind the wardrobe?"
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Reply #58 posted 02/28/11 12:40pm

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I'm kind of lukewarm on the song, it is growing on me, but I love the video! Maybe Gaga is trying too hard but ambition shouldn't be viewed as a bad thing. I'll gladly listen to/watch whatever Gaga is doing vs. anything Katy Perry/Rihanna/Beyonce is doing.

Am I the only one that got a bit of a Superman: The Movie vibe from the beginning of the video, specifically the weird triangle prison thing that Zod, Ursa and Non were put into?

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Reply #59 posted 02/28/11 12:46pm

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rialb said:

I'm kind of lukewarm on the song, it is growing on me, but I love the video! Maybe Gaga is trying too hard but ambition shouldn't be viewed as a bad thing. I'll gladly listen to/watch whatever Gaga is doing vs. anything Katy Perry/Rihanna/Beyonce is doing.

Am I the only one that got a bit of a Superman: The Movie vibe from the beginning of the video, specifically the weird triangle prison thing that Zod, Ursa and Non were put into?

True.

Honey, stop talking and just create the music.
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