Timmy84 said:

MickyDolenz said:

People who saw Sam's body said it had bruses that was not consistent with the story the two women told. Sam's family and his manager Allen Klein wanted to do an investigation and autopsy, but was talked out of it by Barbara Cooke.

That's another person I raise red flags about: Barbara Cooke... and Bobby Womack has been quite suspicious. It's like there's a story within a story within a story about what was going on with Sam Cooke in the days/weeks/months leading up to his death.

Exactly.

MJJstudent said:

MickyDolenz said:

It's was also questionable of the older woman saying she struggled with Sam before she shot him. Sam was a young man and she was in her 50's or 60's I think. It seems to me that Sam wouldn't have to do much to defend himself or do much "struggling". As far as the girl he was with (said to be a prostitute), how can Sam have been trying to rape her if he was in the shower and she stole his clothes and money and he came out to find her missing? That is why he went to the hotel clerk (Bertha) in the 1st place.

i have asked the same exact questions... the cycle continues... i believe he was murdered for his publishing.

I think Allen Klein wound up with the publishing.

MickyDolenz said:

MJJstudent said:

i have asked the same exact questions... the cycle continues... i believe he was murdered for his publishing.

I think Allen Klein wound up with the publishing.

Yeah and apparently another artist as his client (a pop artist whose name escapes me at the moment) was also killed under mysterious circumstances.

Timmy84 said:

MickyDolenz said:

I think Allen Klein wound up with the publishing.

Yeah and apparently another artist as his client (a pop artist whose name escapes me at the moment) was also killed under mysterious circumstances.

He was also one of the factors in The Beatles infighting at the end.

MickyDolenz said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah and apparently another artist as his client (a pop artist whose name escapes me at the moment) was also killed under mysterious circumstances.

He was also one of the factors in The Beatles infighting at the end.

MickyDolenz said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah and apparently another artist as his client (a pop artist whose name escapes me at the moment) was also killed under mysterious circumstances.

He was also one of the factors in The Beatles infighting at the end.

BOOOOOOOOOO!

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I use to really like brownstone. I coulda SWOOOORN you could hear MJ SOMEWHERE on the tracks, like he was breathing on it or something lol

Nvncible1 said:

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I use to really like brownstone. I coulda SWOOOORN you could hear MJ SOMEWHERE on the tracks, like he was breathing on it or something lol

Maybe the influence but other than that...

Timmy84 said:

Nvncible1 said:

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I use to really like brownstone. I coulda SWOOOORN you could hear MJ SOMEWHERE on the tracks, like he was breathing on it or something lol

Maybe the influence but other than that...

i know they thanked him on the first album, but i don't remember hearing him either.

MJJstudent said:

Timmy84 said:

Maybe the influence but other than that...

i know they thanked him on the first album, but i don't remember hearing him either.

You know what was great about the label? The artists that released material, most you didn't even get anything that sounded MJ-esque. Brownstone was their own group. Tatyana Ali was her own artist. Men of Vizion was their own group. Whereas on labels like Paisley Park and SAR, the productions were handled by the label owners. I think Michael only produced those he was related to (3T, Rebbie).

Timmy84 said:

MJJstudent said:

i know they thanked him on the first album, but i don't remember hearing him either.

You know what was great about the label? The artists that released material, most you didn't even get anything that sounded MJ-esque. Brownstone was their own group. Tatyana Ali was her own artist. Men of Vizion was their own group. Whereas on labels like Paisley Park and SAR, the productions were handled by the label owners. I think Michael only produced those he was related to (3T, Rebbie).

yup yup yup!

the only thing was that quo sampled 'heartbreak hotel'. HA! i know what happened to robson, but didn't the other dude end up being a director or something?

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MJJstudent said:

Timmy84 said:

Maybe the influence but other than that...

i know they thanked him on the first album, but i don't remember hearing him either.

No im talking that in terms of them being on his label ( iwould just sit and look at his logo on the back of their cd ) i swore up and down he was on that album SOMEWHERE lol

Nvncible1 said:

MJJstudent said:

i know they thanked him on the first album, but i don't remember hearing him either.

No im talking that in terms of them being on his label ( iwould just sit and look at his logo on the back of their cd ) i swore up and down he was on that album SOMEWHERE lol

not that i know of...

MJJstudent said:

Nvncible1 said:

No im talking that in terms of them being on his label ( iwould just sit and look at his logo on the back of their cd ) i swore up and down he was on that album SOMEWHERE lol

not that i know of...

Of course he's not... oh my god lol nevermind