i actually saw when she did this show, at webster hall, NYC. she was pregnant, and hilarious! i love me some sandra bernhard. she's like the teena marie of comedy.
she is AWESOME! she is indeed amazing live. i've loved her for years, and people made fun of me. her thing about mariah carey though is spot on... and then when she got to mottola... WHOO boy... i used to watch that one show she did, the a list, religiously. and the richard pryor show... yeah, paul mooney, he is a national treasure.
i actually saw when she did this show, at webster hall, NYC. she was pregnant, and hilarious! i love me some sandra bernhard. she's like the teena marie of comedy.
It's funny that U say she's the Teena Marie of comedy...I've been going through a crying jag listening to Lady Tee on You Tube....
If it breaks when it bends, U better not put it in!
i actually saw when she did this show, at webster hall, NYC. she was pregnant, and hilarious! i love me some sandra bernhard. she's like the teena marie of comedy.
It's funny that U say she's the Teena Marie of comedy...I've been going through a crying jag listening to Lady Tee on You Tube....
they're both amazing women. and i had the opportunity of seeing both live.
I'm not too into the word "niggerish" and I'm not sure what that means coming from Sandra Bernhard. But the rest was hella funny.
i agree with you spinlight; however, coming from the school of paul mooney what she said makes total sense. it to me, was a commentary about mariah carey feeling she needed to act a certain way, once she freed herself from the grips of mottola. the woman was actin' a fool. i guess when she did her first record mottola held tight to her image, and she didn't know what to do when she left him. my heart goes out to her actually. she was a mottola experiment.
I love her. She's always brilliant. I saw her live on Broadway for Without You I'm Nothing, which was amazing. And I loved this show almost as much. This bit is classic.
I'm not too into the word "niggerish" and I'm not sure what that means coming from Sandra Bernhard. But the rest was hella funny.
i agree with you spinlight; however, coming from the school of paul mooney what she said makes total sense. it to me, was a commentary about mariah carey feeling she needed to act a certain way, once she freed herself from the grips of mottola. the woman was actin' a fool. i guess when she did her first record mottola held tight to her image, and she didn't know what to do when she left him. my heart goes out to her actually. she was a mottola experiment.
I've never had a Sandra using the word "niggerish" at all. She used to hang with Paul Mooney AND Richard Pryor back in the day.
Damn, here I thought I was the worlds biggest Sandra fan and here I am learnin all this new ish about it. And I agree, I cringe when she says the N word. Although, substituting any other word just doesn't have the same impact.
Damn, here I thought I was the worlds biggest Sandra fan and here I am learnin all this new ish about it. And I agree, I cringe when she says the N word. Although, substituting any other word just doesn't have the same impact.
I'm not saying I agree with her use of it, but I think it's important to place it in context. That bit was right after Mariah talked about her racial background, something she hadn't done before, as far as I know. So Sandra's comment is riding on that.
Damn, here I thought I was the worlds biggest Sandra fan and here I am learnin all this new ish about it. And I agree, I cringe when she says the N word. Although, substituting any other word just doesn't have the same impact.
I'm not saying I agree with her use of it, but I think it's important to place it in context. That bit was right after Mariah talked about her racial background, something she hadn't done before, as far as I know. So Sandra's comment is riding on that.
Yeah, thats the only reason why I have an issue with her using the word, contrary to what she(and many) thought, Mariah did in fact talk about her racial background eversince she started out. Hell, the question regarding her background was damn near obligotary in almost every interview she granted.
It seems - for some reason - she got alot of raised eyebrows for supposedly having affairs with P.Diddy & Q-Tip. Something that wasn't thought twice about when she got linked with good ol' boy Tommy. The funny thing though, couple of years later Sandra was interviewed in The View and she addressed that same point and Star Jones had to correct her, that Mariah is indeed "black" but she just wouldn't let up, she's hell bent on Mariah being a "wigga" She didn't come out and say it but thats what she implied, at least to me.
Anyway, that whole ordeal is idiotic, and I like Sandra enough to shrug that off as foolishness from her part.
I'm not saying I agree with her use of it, but I think it's important to place it in context. That bit was right after Mariah talked about her racial background, something she hadn't done before, as far as I know. So Sandra's comment is riding on that.
Yeah, thats the only reason why I have an issue with her using the word, contrary to what she(and many) thought, Mariah did in fact talk about her racial background eversince she started out. Hell, the question regarding her background was damn near obligotary in almost every interview she granted.
It seems - for some reason - she got alot of raised eyebrows for supposedly having affairs with P.Diddy & Q-Tip. Something that wasn't thought twice about when she got linked with good ol' boy Tommy. The funny thing though, couple of years later Sandra was interviewed in The View and she addressed that same point and Star Jones had to correct her, that Mariah is indeed "black" but she just wouldn't let up, she's hell bent on Mariah being a "wigga" She didn't come out and say it but thats what she implied, at least to me.
Anyway, that whole ordeal is idiotic, and I like Sandra enough to shrug that off as foolishness from her part.
there was an interview with mariah carey i read a few years back (in interview magazine i think) and she spoke more of being venezuelan than black. she could be a black venezuelan though. in the interview she played down her black/african lineage, so who knows?
i didn't necessarily see sandra bernhard focusing on mariah carey's ethnicity, so much as calling her out on acting what she felt was the stereotype of blackness- the sassy black mama mariah didn't act out before, until she left mottola. i mean, when she did that first album she looked like amy fisher. come on, y'all. i wasn't the only one who thought so, either.
and in searching for photos, i just saw that amy fisher ended up doing pornos??!! what??!!
Yeah, thats the only reason why I have an issue with her using the word, contrary to what she(and many) thought, Mariah did in fact talk about her racial background eversince she started out. Hell, the question regarding her background was damn near obligotary in almost every interview she granted.
It seems - for some reason - she got alot of raised eyebrows for supposedly having affairs with P.Diddy & Q-Tip. Something that wasn't thought twice about when she got linked with good ol' boy Tommy. The funny thing though, couple of years later Sandra was interviewed in The View and she addressed that same point and Star Jones had to correct her, that Mariah is indeed "black" but she just wouldn't let up, she's hell bent on Mariah being a "wigga" She didn't come out and say it but thats what she implied, at least to me.
Anyway, that whole ordeal is idiotic, and I like Sandra enough to shrug that off as foolishness from her part.
there was an interview with mariah carey i read a few years back (in interview magazine i think) and she spoke more of being venezuelan than black. she could be a black venezuelan though. in the interview she played down her black/african lineage, so who knows?
i didn't necessarily see sandra bernhard focusing on mariah carey's ethnicity, so much as calling her out on acting what she felt was the stereotype of blackness- the sassy black mama mariah didn't act out before, until she left mottola. i mean, when she did that first album she looked like amy fisher. come on, y'all. i wasn't the only one who thought so, either.
and in searching for photos, i just saw that amy fisher ended up doing pornos??!! what??!!
Yeah, thats the only reason why I have an issue with her using the word, contrary to what she(and many) thought, Mariah did in fact talk about her racial background eversince she started out. Hell, the question regarding her background was damn near obligotary in almost every interview she granted.
It seems - for some reason - she got alot of raised eyebrows for supposedly having affairs with P.Diddy & Q-Tip. Something that wasn't thought twice about when she got linked with good ol' boy Tommy. The funny thing though, couple of years later Sandra was interviewed in The View and she addressed that same point and Star Jones had to correct her, that Mariah is indeed "black" but she just wouldn't let up, she's hell bent on Mariah being a "wigga" She didn't come out and say it but thats what she implied, at least to me.
Anyway, that whole ordeal is idiotic, and I like Sandra enough to shrug that off as foolishness from her part.
there was an interview with mariah carey i read a few years back (in interview magazine i think) and she spoke more of being venezuelan than black. she could be a black venezuelan though. in the interview she played down her black/african lineage, so who knows?
Here's why I think thats an incorrect information See, Mariah never came out and flatly said she's "more" of a segment of her background than the other, she looks visibly uncomfortable when interviewers ask her that question and thats why she ends up with this long ass answer about her family tree and each of the continents they came from
Most of my mutli-racial friends are like that, folks might perceive their caginess as "putting down one side over the other" but their attitude is more like not leaving any side of their family out.
That whole "Most misunderstood black woman" episode from Essence was just hilarious, though.
That really was funny. I'm kind of a fan of Heart; I like some Joan Jett, Pat Benatar and I'm a really big Fiona Apple fan. I spent my entire teenage years as a devoted Mariah Carey fan; and I listened to The Velvet Rope alot when it came out.
"I don't think you'd do well in captivity." - random person's comment to me the other day
there was an interview with mariah carey i read a few years back (in interview magazine i think) and she spoke more of being venezuelan than black. she could be a black venezuelan though. in the interview she played down her black/african lineage, so who knows?
Here's why I think thats an incorrect information See, Mariah never came out and flatly said she's "more" of a segment of her background than the other, she looks visibly uncomfortable when interviewers ask her that question and thats why she ends up with this long ass answer about her family tree and each of the continents they came from
Most of my mutli-racial friends are like that, folks might perceive their caginess as "putting down one side over the other" but their attitude is more like not leaving any side of their family out.
That whole "Most misunderstood black woman" episode from Essence was just hilarious, though.
i wish i could find the interview... she did play down her african heritage and propped up the venezuelan. there was a focus on her venezuelan heritage. it could be in part that the writer of the piece did that, but if i recall, it was ms. carey.
frankly, i don't see why she needs to have a long explanation. it's nobody's business. she's mixed, like a lot of people in this country. many of the mixed people i know usually identify with one or more of their ethnicities... very few people i've met have tried to give defensive explanations.
i'm not familiar with the essence peice, so i cannot comment on that.
woooooooooowwwww... i can't believe this. i guess i can. it's like the dude, john wayne bobbitt, doing the pornos too. i remember passing by one store, and saw a poster of him on the door. woooooow.
woooooooooowwwww... i can't believe this. i guess i can. it's like the dude, john wayne bobbitt, doing the pornos too. i remember passing by one store, and saw a poster of him on the door. woooooow.
woooooooooowwwww... i can't believe this. i guess i can. it's like the dude, john wayne bobbitt, doing the pornos too. i remember passing by one store, and saw a poster of him on the door. woooooow.
Yes! I worked in a porn shop when his video came out...Penistein or something like that...he should've kept his angry inch and got on with his life! His cock was chopped up beyond recognition!
If it breaks when it bends, U better not put it in!
Oh yeah, the infamous bit that was from 98 if I'm not mistaken.
I love Sandra Bernhard though, Paul Mooney struck gold when he discovered her.
I'm shocked at the lack of response from people on here. She says some seriously nasty stuff abour Mariah.
I love her too and I remember this clip and the mini-scandal from saying ooh Mariah's gettin niggerish! I saw her show Without You I'm Nothing a bunch of times, so part of it is the biting sarcasm in her humor, and part of it is this quasi-pass she gives herself to be provocative about race. Remember in the film version of Without You, she sings Four Women by Nina Simone in this Afrocentric outfit. Later, this young black woman who's been watching her perform writes 'Fuck Sandra Bernhard' in lipstick on a table cloth. So I see that part of her routine as partly shock value and part commentary.
I also love Mariah, partly because her life is fascinating to me. It's easy to shoot her down in terms of her process of acknowledging and owning who she is, both identity wise and musically. It's a little 'damned if you do, damned if you don't as far as her acknowledging or discussing being biracial and since the jokes by SB came out shortly after Mariah's divorce and being more public about herself, I can understand the impulse to want to defend her. [Edited 2/18/11 9:16am]
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that was from 98 if I'm not mistaken.
