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Reply #30 posted 02/14/11 8:18am

SoulAlive

Glindathegood said:

I agree I'd like to see her do something more song based and less electronic. But I don't think she should go back to old producers but work with someone new.

Like a lot of older artists she needs to find a way to be true to herself but still sound modern and not dated or stuck in the past, which is always a hard thing to do.

But even though that's what I want, unfortunately right now the music scene is all about electronics and dance/house music, so if she did something different it might have a hard time finding success.

But just me as a fan, I"d like to see her focus less on radio and more on making a great record. I just think even if she makes something radio friendly they won't play it because of her age.

Also, although I personally would like something less dance oriented, I've noticed in general a lot of fans and the general public tend to like her dance stuff more and reject her when it's less dance.

I loved American Life, which was one of her least dance inspired album, but it was mostly rejected by fans or the public.

So basically, I'm not sure what she should do!

My feeling is,there really is nothing innovative going on in pop music right now.I can't even name one "groundbreaking" producer that Madonna could work with.I like the last two albums so I think she should just stick to dance/pop.Some fans may disagree but I think Pharrell is a great producer for her.He was able to capture the essence of her 80s work and still make it sound fresh and 'modern'.There is talk of her working with David Guetta.Although I'm sorta tired of the techno/electronica sound,I like his recent work with the Black Eyed Peas so maybe something good may come out of this collaboration.

This time around,I'd like some ballads.REAL BALLADS...not beat-driven stuff like "Devil Wouldn't Recognize You" (a great song,btw).She used to do alot of haunting,reflective ballads like "Live To Tell" and "This Used To Be My Playground".It would be cool to see her revisit that.

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Reply #31 posted 02/14/11 10:52am

IstenSzek

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she should just write some good stuff with a decent memorable melody and execute

the whole thing with real instruments, produced by nigel godrich.

then pull in people like beck, bjork, autechre, apparat or the knife to help her out on

the beats programming or electro or just plain weird shit on some of the songs.

it could sound contemporary yet completely of it's own and with a good backbone to

hang all of that on since she'd have written some in depth lyrics and strong melodies.

at this point i'm just scared that we'll get a whole album full of "celebration" kind of

tunes that sounds like madonna covering the top 12 of that particular month's dance

charts. yet not as an actual album.

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Reply #32 posted 02/14/11 12:14pm

SoulAlive

IstenSzek said:

she should just write some good stuff with a decent memorable melody and execute

the whole thing with real instruments, produced by nigel godrich.

then pull in people like beck, bjork, autechre, apparat or the knife to help her out on

the beats programming or electro or just plain weird shit on some of the songs.

it could sound contemporary yet completely of it's own and with a good backbone to

hang all of that on since she'd have written some in depth lyrics and strong melodies.

at this point i'm just scared that we'll get a whole album full of "celebration" kind of

tunes that sounds like madonna covering the top 12 of that particular month's dance

charts. yet not as an actual album.

I hope she stays away from "Celebration"-type sounds.I'm tired of the trancy/Eurodisco/electronica stuff.She should save that sound for her remixes only.I like your idea.....recording an album with a real band.That would be a refreshing change of pace.

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Reply #33 posted 02/14/11 1:47pm

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She could try Mark Ronson. I see his producing style blending well with Madonna's melodies and he did great on Duran Duran's latest album. Also Groove Armada and DJ Hell did a great job on two songs on Bryan Ferry's "Olympia". Just she should stay away from the current bunch of super-producers that everyone and their brother is using and she'll do fine.

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Reply #34 posted 02/14/11 1:50pm

SoulAlive

jiorjios said:

She could try Mark Ronson. I see his producing style blending well with Madonna's melodies and he did great on Duran Duran's latest album. Also Groove Armada and DJ Hell did a great job on two songs on Bryan Ferry's "Olympia". Just she should stay away from the current bunch of super-producers that everyone and their brother is using and she'll do fine.

Mark Ronson? That's an interesting choice.

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Reply #35 posted 02/14/11 1:54pm

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jiorjios said:

She could try Mark Ronson. I see his producing style blending well with Madonna's melodies and he did great on Duran Duran's latest album. Also Groove Armada and DJ Hell did a great job on two songs on Bryan Ferry's "Olympia". Just she should stay away from the current bunch of super-producers that everyone and their brother is using and she'll do fine.

I like that Mark Ronson idea. That may do the trick. Of course it depends on the material nontheless.

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Reply #36 posted 02/14/11 1:58pm

Harlepolis

William Orbit.

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Reply #37 posted 02/14/11 2:00pm

IstenSzek

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Harlepolis said:

William Orbit.

yeah, i keep hoping for that too. it wouldn't mind to give that winning formula another go.

but maybe they both feel that they took it as far as they could with "ray of light"

i don't know. i'd still prefer another orbit/madonna colab than those other people she has

been working with.

it was cool to see wendy on a track on hard candy tho, although i still get mad when i'm

listening to that track and they go "Wendy!" and then her solo starts and it's turned down

right away.

mad

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Reply #38 posted 02/14/11 2:00pm

SoulAlive

Harlepolis said:

William Orbit.

hmmm

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Reply #39 posted 02/14/11 2:02pm

SoulAlive

in other Madonna news....

Great news, Madonna fans!

There has been quite a buzz lately about chances for one of the most sought-after pieces of Madonna's career as a performer to finally see the light of day, and we're happy to share three great pieces of news with you.

MadonnaTribe can exclusively reveal that not only one but three Madonna tour concerts are going to have special new releases in the near future.

Not only the long-awaited Blond Ambition Tour is now set for release on both DVD and Blu Ray, but also the whole Virgin Tour concert and a remastered Girlie Show!

These are new releases Warner have been working on for a while, and the time has finally come for them to hit the stores.

This is the sort of news likely to make many Madonna fans' day, even though we also have to add that the there is nothing planned at this point for another gem, Madonna's Reinvention Tour.

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Reply #40 posted 02/14/11 2:06pm

SoulAlive

IstenSzek said:

Harlepolis said:

William Orbit.

yeah, i keep hoping for that too. it wouldn't mind to give that winning formula another go.

but maybe they both feel that they took it as far as they could with "ray of light"

i don't know. i'd still prefer another orbit/madonna colab than those other people she has

been working with.

it was cool to see wendy on a track on hard candy tho, although i still get mad when i'm

listening to that track and they go "Wendy!" and then her solo starts and it's turned down

right away.

mad

"She's Not Me" is a fantastic track! Great,funky guitar playing by Wendy.That was a pleasant surprise.

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Reply #41 posted 02/14/11 2:17pm

Harlepolis

IstenSzek said:

Harlepolis said:

William Orbit.

yeah, i keep hoping for that too. it wouldn't mind to give that winning formula another go.

but maybe they both feel that they took it as far as they could with "ray of light"

i don't know. i'd still prefer another orbit/madonna colab than those other people she has

been working with.

it was cool to see wendy on a track on hard candy tho, although i still get mad when i'm

listening to that track and they go "Wendy!" and then her solo starts and it's turned down

right away.

mad

I've heard William's work with alot of artists and quite frankly, I've rarely heard something from him that wasn't up to bar.

I don't want her to make "Ray Pt.2", I don't even think William will repeat himself at this point simply because the man seems to enjoy flirting with different musical style and fuse them together as it is, so he's liable to come up with something different than Ray yet showcase a side of her that many producers haven't had the chance to.

I'll be more than content if William was the sole producer/arranger of the upcoming album.

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Reply #42 posted 02/14/11 2:28pm

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SoulAlive said:

in other Madonna news....

Great news, Madonna fans!

There has been quite a buzz lately about chances for one of the most sought-after pieces of Madonna's career as a performer to finally see the light of day, and we're happy to share three great pieces of news with you.

MadonnaTribe can exclusively reveal that not only one but three Madonna tour concerts are going to have special new releases in the near future.

Not only the long-awaited Blond Ambition Tour is now set for release on both DVD and Blu Ray, but also the whole Virgin Tour concert and a remastered Girlie Show!

These are new releases Warner have been working on for a while, and the time has finally come for them to hit the stores.

This is the sort of news likely to make many Madonna fans' day, even though we also have to add that the there is nothing planned at this point for another gem, Madonna's Reinvention Tour.

Guy Ossary has already denied these rumours

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Reply #43 posted 02/14/11 2:30pm

SoulAlive

jiorjios said:

SoulAlive said:

in other Madonna news....

Great news, Madonna fans!

There has been quite a buzz lately about chances for one of the most sought-after pieces of Madonna's career as a performer to finally see the light of day, and we're happy to share three great pieces of news with you.

MadonnaTribe can exclusively reveal that not only one but three Madonna tour concerts are going to have special new releases in the near future.

Not only the long-awaited Blond Ambition Tour is now set for release on both DVD and Blu Ray, but also the whole Virgin Tour concert and a remastered Girlie Show!

These are new releases Warner have been working on for a while, and the time has finally come for them to hit the stores.

This is the sort of news likely to make many Madonna fans' day, even though we also have to add that the there is nothing planned at this point for another gem, Madonna's Reinvention Tour.

Guy Ossary has already denied these rumours

That's too bad confused This would have been a great way to tide fans over until the new album is released.

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Reply #44 posted 02/14/11 2:37pm

JoeTyler

It will be, probably, another hardcore-dance album neutral...that would be disappointing, I've heard that sound before (Confessions, some songs of Hard Candy, Celebration, etc.)

I'd personally prefer an organic dance/funk album (Maroon 5, Jamiroquai) or an experimental-electronic album (Roisin Murphy, Massive Attack, etc.) but of course, that would mean that she's following the trends confused

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Reply #45 posted 02/14/11 2:41pm

SoulAlive

JoeTyler said:

It will be, probably, another hardcore-dance album neutral...that would be disappointing, I've heard that sound before (Confessions, some songs of Hard Candy, Celebration, etc.)

I'd personally prefer an organic dance/funk album (Maroon 5, Jamiroquai) or an experimental-electronic album (Roisin Murphy, Massive Attack, etc.) but of course, that would mean that she's following the trends confused

Jamiroquai and Maroon 5 nod I would love for her to go in that direction.....a retro/funk/dance sound recorded with real instruments."She's Not Me" was a step in this direction but she should take it further.

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Reply #46 posted 02/14/11 6:04pm

JoeTyler

SoulAlive said:

JoeTyler said:

It will be, probably, another hardcore-dance album neutral...that would be disappointing, I've heard that sound before (Confessions, some songs of Hard Candy, Celebration, etc.)

I'd personally prefer an organic dance/funk album (Maroon 5, Jamiroquai) or an experimental-electronic album (Roisin Murphy, Massive Attack, etc.) but of course, that would mean that she's following the trends confused

Jamiroquai and Maroon 5 nod I would love for her to go in that direction.....a retro/funk/dance sound recorded with real instruments."She's Not Me" was a step in this direction but she should take it further.

nod she could reinvent herself as a neo-disco diva; that kind of sound could attract old-timers and fans of 75-85 music, and the hardcore fans would be probably pleased smile I'd kill for a new Madonna album full of strings, horns, some synths/keyboards, loud drums and a couple of killer singles. Perhaps a mix of I'm Breathless and Erotica, but with a late-00's production. cool

Enough of this hardcore-modern/dance-electronic thing, leave that sound for the new artists and the 98-10 generation...

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Reply #47 posted 02/14/11 6:07pm

SoulAlive

JoeTyler said:

SoulAlive said:

Jamiroquai and Maroon 5 nod I would love for her to go in that direction.....a retro/funk/dance sound recorded with real instruments."She's Not Me" was a step in this direction but she should take it further.

nod she could reinvent herself as a neo-disco diva; that kind of sound could attract old-timers and fans of 75-85 music, and the hardcore fans would be probably pleased smile I'd kill for a new Madonna album full of strings, horns, some synths/keyboards, loud drums and a couple of killer singles. Perhaps a mix of I'm Breathless and Erotica, but with a late-00's production. cool

Enough of this hardcore-modern/dance-electronic thing, leave that sound for the new artists and the 98-10 generation...

I love that new Maroon 5 single "Give A Little More" music Whoever produced their album,Madonna should consider working with.

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Reply #48 posted 02/14/11 7:01pm

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IstenSzek said:

Harlepolis said:

William Orbit.

yeah, i keep hoping for that too. it wouldn't mind to give that winning formula another go.

but maybe they both feel that they took it as far as they could with "ray of light"

i don't know. i'd still prefer another orbit/madonna colab than those other people she has

been working with.

it was cool to see wendy on a track on hard candy tho, although i still get mad when i'm

listening to that track and they go "Wendy!" and then her solo starts and it's turned down

right away.

mad

eh. listening to the miscellaneous post-ROL tracks and his stuff on "Music", I think it's fair to say that their collaboration had run its course.

it's been enough time, so maybe Orbit has something else he's onto, but a lot of what came after ROL that they did together sounded like a watered-down retread.

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Reply #49 posted 02/14/11 9:09pm

Glindathegood

SoulAlive said:

I hope she stays away from "Celebration"-type sounds.I'm tired of the trancy/Eurodisco/electronica stuff.She should save that sound for her remixes only.I like your idea.....recording an album with a real band.That would be a refreshing change of pace.

I would love a band sound too. I think she could do a band sound, but not a stereotypical rock sound. I don't like the Celebration style either. If she were to do some electronica I would want more of the sound similiar to Ray Of Light or songs like Sanctuary and Bedtime Story, or maybe a trip hop sound.

I'm not that big on Mark Ronson. I find him really overrated. I wasn't blown away by the DD album. I think he's more of a producer than a real songwriter. She needs a songwriter to bounce ideas off of and create melodies.

I don't see Mark's personality meshing with hers. He's too laid back and slow. She likes someone more charismatic, outspoken and in your face like she is! I could see her losing patience with him. He mumbles and talks so slowly!

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Reply #50 posted 02/14/11 9:12pm

Timmy84

I think she might just go back to the drawing board to the type of sound she had when she first came out. "Hard Candy" was a hip-hop revamping of that but she don't need that because honestly where else can Madonna go now?

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Reply #51 posted 02/14/11 9:20pm

SoulAlive

Timmy84 said:

I think she might just go back to the drawing board to the type of sound she had when she first came out. "Hard Candy" was a hip-hop revamping of that but she don't need that because honestly where else can Madonna go now?

Sometimes I feel that Old school artists should just stay retro,ignore current trends,and stick to the sounds that made us pay attention in the first place lol Besides,how much more ground can you break when you've been doing this for nearly 30 years? I'd be satisfied with a good dance/pop album.I don't necessarily need another 'Ray Of Light'.

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Reply #52 posted 02/15/11 4:08am

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SoulAlive said:

Timmy84 said:

I think she might just go back to the drawing board to the type of sound she had when she first came out. "Hard Candy" was a hip-hop revamping of that but she don't need that because honestly where else can Madonna go now?

Sometimes I feel that Old school artists should just stay retro,ignore current trends,and stick to the sounds that made us pay attention in the first place lol Besides,how much more ground can you break when you've been doing this for nearly 30 years? I'd be satisfied with a good dance/pop album.I don't necessarily need another 'Ray Of Light'.

the Johnny Cash/Prince/U2/David Bowie-of-later-years route would work well for her I think. coming up with something new and relevant that synthesizes earlier styles and sounds. and Madonna, most of all, is ripe to bring pop back to what she was in the 80's and early 90's. I think pop is ready for it and it might spark something that moves the entire pop/r&b scene back to something a little more satisfying than the Euro-disco that rules right now.

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Reply #53 posted 02/15/11 8:28am

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I vote for another album along the lines of Bedtime Stories or her debut or Erotica - one that emphasizes the grooves over the hooks. hard candy without the big choruses or justin timberlake. she an pharrell should just pick up where 'shes not me' left off and bring back steve bray (yeah right, as if)

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Reply #54 posted 02/15/11 11:25am

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badujunkie said:

I vote for another album along the lines of Bedtime Stories or her debut or Erotica - one that emphasizes the grooves over the hooks. hard candy without the big choruses or justin timberlake. she an pharrell should just pick up where 'shes not me' left off and bring back steve bray (yeah right, as if)

Hard Candy was all groove, no hook.

Please, someone -- anyone -- introduce a hook back into Madonna's music.

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Reply #55 posted 02/15/11 7:00pm

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errant said:

badujunkie said:

I vote for another album along the lines of Bedtime Stories or her debut or Erotica - one that emphasizes the grooves over the hooks. hard candy without the big choruses or justin timberlake. she an pharrell should just pick up where 'shes not me' left off and bring back steve bray (yeah right, as if)

Hard Candy was all groove, no hook.

Please, someone -- anyone -- introduce a hook back into Madonna's music.

Disagree! Candy Shop is her most (annoying) hookiest shit in a while...Heartbeat, hook...Miles Away, hook...Incredible (great), hook...

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Reply #56 posted 02/15/11 9:24pm

Glindathegood

SoulAlive said:

Sometimes I feel that Old school artists should just stay retro,ignore current trends,and stick to the sounds that made us pay attention in the first place lol Besides,how much more ground can you break when you've been doing this for nearly 30 years? I'd be satisfied with a good dance/pop album.I don't necessarily need another 'Ray Of Light'.

I agree. I do think artists make a mistake by trying to be too contemporary. They think if they do the current style they will get played on radio more, but younger people who like that music want to hear it sung by people around their own age, not someone their parent's age. On the other hand, the real trendy stuff alienates your older fans. So you don't get a younger audience, while annoying your older fans.

However, if she were to go retro, I would like her back to more the style of LAP, rather than her first album. She already went back to the first album on Confessions. The first album is a little too dance and club for me. I like more of the pure pop band sound of LAP.

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Reply #57 posted 02/15/11 10:24pm

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Glindathegood said:

SoulAlive said:

Sometimes I feel that Old school artists should just stay retro,ignore current trends,and stick to the sounds that made us pay attention in the first place lol Besides,how much more ground can you break when you've been doing this for nearly 30 years? I'd be satisfied with a good dance/pop album.I don't necessarily need another 'Ray Of Light'.

I agree. I do think artists make a mistake by trying to be too contemporary. They think if they do the current style they will get played on radio more, but younger people who like that music want to hear it sung by people around their own age, not someone their parent's age. On the other hand, the real trendy stuff alienates your older fans. So you don't get a younger audience, while annoying your older fans.

However, if she were to go retro, I would like her back to more the style of LAP, rather than her first album. She already went back to the first album on Confessions. The first album is a little too dance and club for me. I like more of the pure pop band sound of LAP.

Interesting...I like that sound for her too, 2nd to her more r&b influenced work.

I always wondered - what would "Sorry" sound like if it were from LAP? With a more organic drums and guitar vibe a la "Til Death Do Us Part" - i think it would kick arse

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Reply #58 posted 02/17/11 11:51am

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Guy Oseary, Madonna’s manager, gave a small Q&A session on Twitter today…
Here’s what he had to say…

On releasing W.E.
No information on movie release yet.. when we know, we will definitely tell everyone..

On the next album
Yes! soon as the movie is over… she is currently listening to new music.. and is very eager to make a new album!!!
I’ve always wanted to a madonna unplugged, the new album will be quite the opposite of unplugged. I have one word for you: DANCE
Most of the music madonna is liking for new album are from all unknown producers. from what she played me, the tracks sound amazing
As i said, so far all the tracks being considered are from unknown producers.. but we are open to all and any great ideas..
I would love to let her rest, but she is eager to get into studio and get working on an album. I’m not pushing.. This is all her!

On Madonna concerts being released in DVDs
I would like it as well.. i had my first meeting with warner records about it.. this will take time.. no promises.. we shall see
I never said no to releasing the dvds. I only said there were no plans for it.. I met with warner this last week to discuss it..
There are NO plans. We had our first meeting about dvd’s, with the intention of making it happen, but this will take some time.

On a tour anytime soon?
Not this summer… need to make an album first!

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Reply #59 posted 02/17/11 1:24pm

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SoulAlive said:

Guy Oseary, Madonna’s manager, gave a small Q&A session on Twitter today…
Here’s what he had to say…

On releasing W.E.
No information on movie release yet.. when we know, we will definitely tell everyone..

On the next album
Yes! soon as the movie is over… she is currently listening to new music.. and is very eager to make a new album!!!
I’ve always wanted to a madonna unplugged, the new album will be quite the opposite of unplugged. I have one word for you: DANCE
Most of the music madonna is liking for new album are from all unknown producers. from what she played me, the tracks sound amazing
As i said, so far all the tracks being considered are from unknown producers.. but we are open to all and any great ideas..
I would love to let her rest, but she is eager to get into studio and get working on an album. I’m not pushing.. This is all her!

On Madonna concerts being released in DVDs
I would like it as well.. i had my first meeting with warner records about it.. this will take time.. no promises.. we shall see
I never said no to releasing the dvds. I only said there were no plans for it.. I met with warner this last week to discuss it..
There are NO plans. We had our first meeting about dvd’s, with the intention of making it happen, but this will take some time.

On a tour anytime soon?
Not this summer… need to make an album first!

Dance.

Good grief.

I guess it's ironic to be hoping that Madonna would do something besides dance. Of course there are going to be dance tracks on a Madonna album, and that's great. But when he says "I have one word for you: DANCE" I know exactly where this is going. Again. confused

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