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Love me some Phil Collins

nursev said:

Love me some Phil Collins

^^^^^^^ I remember when that song was "remade" by Bone....

I need to look into some Genesis...I only know of their 80's stuff.

^ yeah Bone thugs really messed that one up I prefer the original

movie and song will make u cry

A bit of a predictable selection, but I'll just post some classics:

What I consider to be the best song from the "Lamb" album:

One of the best songs with Phil on vocals:

A live version of their signature song from their prog days:

Still prog, but moving towards a different sound:

Most people don't even realize how good these guys were due to what they became later on. One of the best bands of the 1970s.

Most people don't even realize how good these guys were due to what they became later on. One of the best bands of the 1970s.

I don't know why early Genesis fans like to trash the 80's Genesis. If they didn't have the success then, the group would be forgotten today. The Peter era was mostly a cult band at the time. A lot of Peter's solo stuff is just as pop, so I don't understand the "Phil Collins ruined the group" comments. A lot of established acts changed their sound in the 1980's.

Give me Phil Collins or Peter Gabriel solo albums instead...

I respect the band's 70's albums but they bore the hell out of me. Prog is not my thing...

Genesis wouldn't be forgotten today, because it was one of the most commercially successful art rock bands of the time. None of the bands that belonged to the same "musical movement" are forgotten today.

You are right that a lot of established acts changed their sound in the 1980s, so they weren't an exception in that regard. No other band just changed it as drastically as Genesis did. It became a different musical project altogether for the three remaining members. To say that it was Collins that ruined the band is a bit of an exaggeration as well, because they still shared songwriting and arrangement duties. It's just that their best-known songs from the 80s and early-90s are essentially the same type of music Collins did on his solo records, just with the other guys doing the background music. There's just no stylistic connection remaining between "Dancing With The Moonlit Knight" and "No Son Of Mine" whatsoever. It's not so much a reason to "trash" the late version of Genesis as it's just really puzzling in the end. "How the hell did they go from this... to this??"

As for Gabriel, well, he wasn't really a prog musician himself. More like a glam rocker fronting a prog group at the time. He didn't even write too many of the songs himself, although "The Carpet Crawlers" was apparently his. The first 3-4 albums with Collins on lead vocals are great to me.

My problem with Genesis is that they were too cerebral/serious for my taste. In my opinion, there were a lot of british bands which were just as arty and groundbreaking as Genesis (Roxy Music and Yes being the clearest examples) but those bands also had a sense of trashy fun and a knack for well-crafted pop (influenced by the Beatles) that Genesis sadly missed. Even Pink Floyd were more upbeat than Genesis...

On top of that, Genesis albums may be strong/worthy, but they lack memorable singles. In that department, Pink Floyd also wins...

Flaming Youth was a band Phil was in before Genesis.

Can I just say one thing not related to the music?

Phil Collins used to have a fine head of hair!

I wonder how he was balding so early?

Peter Gabriel's hair was rich too, don't know why he cut some of it.

I agree that Peter was more of a glam rocker in a prog rock band. That was a weird mixture but then again Phil seems to be one of those rock drummers but he had to change his format for them.

Weird how Phil and Peter were in this band though Peter did start the group.

Very odd story about Genesis. Even more odd: Phil Collins was the R&B member of the group. Then again, oddity can be a beautiful thing.

The first Genesis video I saw with my own two eyes was "Land of Confusion". Of course, the video isn't anywhere (by itself), they usually have the video with the Disturbed version mix so here's the song by itself:

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JoeTyler said:

On top of that, Genesis albums may be strong/worthy, but they lack memorable singles.

It's not everybody's prerogative to make catchy songs for the masses or have Billboard radio hits. Like Sun Ra or Moondog.

MickyDolenz said:

JoeTyler said:

On top of that, Genesis albums may be strong/worthy, but they lack memorable singles.

It's not everybody's prerogative to make catchy songs for the masses or have Billboard radio hits. Like Sun Ra or Moondog.

Between 1969 and 1977, that surely wasn't their aim. But labels (and the band) found something in one member's voice that put them over the top. Peter Gabriel may have made some GREAT albums with them but without Phil Collins, the group would've broken up. Phil's the reason more women were at their shows after this song came out:

Timmy84 said:

Phil Collins used to have a fine head of hair!

I wonder how he was balding so early?

There was a guy in one of my 9th grade classes who's hair was receding, and I knew another one in the 6th grade who's hair was going gray. Genetics I guess.

MickyDolenz said:

Timmy84 said:

Phil Collins used to have a fine head of hair!

I wonder how he was balding so early?

There was a guy in one of my 9th grade classes who's hair was receding, and I knew another one in the 6th grade who's hair was going gray. Genetics I guess.

Yeah it does happens. Hahaha I just looked at my question... like calling the pot kettle black, I'm receding a little too...and around the same age Phil was. Hell my uncle's hair receded at my age (so did my brother's). So yeah it may be just genetics.

Timmy84 said:

MickyDolenz said:

It's not everybody's prerogative to make catchy songs for the masses or have Billboard radio hits. Like Sun Ra or Moondog.

Between 1969 and 1977, that surely wasn't their aim. But labels (and the band) found something in one member's voice that put them over the top. Peter Gabriel may have made some GREAT albums with them but without Phil Collins, the group would've broken up. Phil's the reason more women were at their shows after this song came out:

Perhaps, but Steve Hackett was considered the "pretty boy" of the group. Follow You was their first major hit in the US, although I Know What I Like (from the Peter years) was a minor hit. The group sort of did break up after Phil left (not officially though), as not many people were interested in the Calling All Stations album with Ray Wilson. He was their Van Halen/Gary Cherrone. I've never heard anything from it other than the couple of songs on the Genesis music video DVD.

At least when they sold out they were successful.

Unlike these guys:

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MickyDolenz said:

Timmy84 said:

Between 1969 and 1977, that surely wasn't their aim. But labels (and the band) found something in one member's voice that put them over the top. Peter Gabriel may have made some GREAT albums with them but without Phil Collins, the group would've broken up. Phil's the reason more women were at their shows after this song came out:

Perhaps, but Steve Hackett was considered the "pretty boy" of the group. Follow You was their first major hit in the US, although I Know What I Like (from the Peter years) was a minor hit. The group sort of did break up after Phil left (not officially though), as not many people were interested in the Calling All Stations album with Ray Wilson. He was their Van Halen/Gary Cherrone. I've never heard anything from it other than the couple of songs on the Genesis music video DVD.

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Whenever I see Tony Banks, I think of Schroeder.

MickyDolenz said:

Whenever I see Tony Banks, I think of Schroeder.

He does remind me of him too now that I think about it.

I grew up on Phil Collins led Genesis and love it WAY more than the Gabriel art rock era...with the Mama album being my absolute fave.

however I am a HUGE fan of Gabriel solo as well (way more than Collins solo stuff). 'So' is a perfect album.

Poplife88 said:

I grew up on Phil Collins led Genesis and love it WAY more than the Gabriel art rock era...with the Mama album being my absolute fave.

however I am a HUGE fan of Gabriel solo as well (way more than Collins solo stuff). 'So' is a perfect album.

I like Brand X the best of the offshoot projects.

Always been my favorite Genesis track...

Genesis - Misunderstanding

Genesis - No Reply at All

Genesis - Man On The Corner

Genesis - Turn It on Again