go2theMax said:

just1lousydime said:

It looks okay, but I wouldn't call it Janet.

that's exactly what i thought

You have a problem with Janet?

midiscover said:

go2theMax said:

that's exactly what i thought

You have a problem with Janet?

no, dear stan, I don't. I have all her albuns from control 2 20 Y.O. (yeah i even supported that utter shit)..I don't think i can be classified as a hater..i can say I'm a fan, stan...i just don't think that rihanna is "rockin janet circa 97"..is that 2 much 4 u 2 bear?

BlaqueKnight said:

Militant said:

My 9 year old niece has no interest in MTV and shows like Skins are aimed at teens. It's a show that originated here and I don't know a single person under 13 who watches it, children have no interest in watching shows like that. My niece doesn't care about any of that Hannah Montana or High School Musical nonsense either, she has better taste than that.

However, my niece does listen to the Billboard charts, and has Lady Gaga, Britney and Rihanna on her iPod. Her parents are the most responsible people I know and the best parents, they aren't going to stop her listening to music when we're all professional musicians ourselves and 95% of what's on the Billboard is perfectly fine.

I just think Rihanna ought to realize that maybe pushing a song like "S&M" might not be the best idea given that she has a young fanbase and it's not really appropriate for them to be going around singing about whips and chains. Even though they have no understanding of the meaning, it's still not exactly subtle.

The American pop music market is designed to corrupt the youth. Its a large tool for mass subliminal suggestions, which is why so many singers and rappers shout brand names in their songs. pretty much the entire market is selling sex to teenaged girls these days. We're out of the violent 90s, so sex is what's left. Well, sex and drugs. Rihanna doesn't write. The words coming out of her mouth are not hers. They are probably that of some porn-addicted grown ass man who has gone so far into their own fetishized reality that they don't think of what is and isn't acceptable OR the song was probably written for another artist (most likely) who caters to a more adult crowd and somebody at the company heard it and decided it was time to make the "good girl gone bad" live up to her moniker. Either way, its no surprise. The youth of today are being attacked from all sides; bombarded with titilation from every direction by corporate fucks who want to get a generation into their mindset so they can sell them shit. Nothing in the pop market is jst about music anymore. Its all "building a brand" bullshit. Pop music is just a tool nowadays.

Oh, and everybody knows damn well that's Janet's old hairstyle. Ray Charles could see that.

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SEANMAN said:

BlaqueKnight said:

The American pop music market is designed to corrupt the youth. Its a large tool for mass subliminal suggestions, which is why so many singers and rappers shout brand names in their songs. pretty much the entire market is selling sex to teenaged girls these days. We're out of the violent 90s, so sex is what's left. Well, sex and drugs. Rihanna doesn't write. The words coming out of her mouth are not hers. They are probably that of some porn-addicted grown ass man who has gone so far into their own fetishized reality that they don't think of what is and isn't acceptable OR the song was probably written for another artist (most likely) who caters to a more adult crowd and somebody at the company heard it and decided it was time to make the "good girl gone bad" live up to her moniker. Either way, its no surprise. The youth of today are being attacked from all sides; bombarded with titilation from every direction by corporate fucks who want to get a generation into their mindset so they can sell them shit. Nothing in the pop market is jst about music anymore. Its all "building a brand" bullshit. Pop music is just a tool nowadays.

Oh, and everybody knows damn well that's Janet's old hairstyle. Ray Charles could see that.

[Edited 1/22/11 10:44am]

's sideshow bob style

go2theMax said:

midiscover said:

You have a problem with Janet?

no, dear stan, I don't. I have all her albuns from control 2 20 Y.O. (yeah i even supported that utter shit)..I don't think i can be classified as a hater..i can say I'm a fan, stan...i just don't think that rihanna is "rockin janet circa 97"..is that 2 much 4 u 2 bear?

Chile, is u blind? It's not being a stan to say that Rihanna's current style is very much Janet circa 1997-1998 (intentionally or not, who knows?). People act as if it's the first time a pop star has worn this hairdo when, frankly my dear, it's not.

go2theMax said:

midiscover said:

You have a problem with Janet?

no, dear stan, I don't. I have all her albuns from control 2 20 Y.O. (yeah i even supported that utter shit)..I don't think i can be classified as a hater..i can say I'm a fan, stan...i just don't think that rihanna is "rockin janet circa 97"..is that 2 much 4 u 2 bear?

Too late

SEANMAN said:

go2theMax said:

no, dear stan, I don't. I have all her albuns from control 2 20 Y.O. (yeah i even supported that utter shit)..I don't think i can be classified as a hater..i can say I'm a fan, stan...i just don't think that rihanna is "rockin janet circa 97"..is that 2 much 4 u 2 bear?

Chile, is u blind? It's not being a stan to say that Rihanna's current style is very much Janet circa 1997-1998 (intentionally or not, who knows?). People act as if it's the first time a pop star has worn this hairdo when, frankly my dear, it's not.

Chile, ignore him. He knows damn well that that hairstyle has The Velvet Rope written all over it. Even critics pointed this out. He's just another bothered hater.

midiscover said:

SEANMAN said:

Chile, is u blind? It's not being a stan to say that Rihanna's current style is very much Janet circa 1997-1998 (intentionally or not, who knows?). People act as if it's the first time a pop star has worn this hairdo when, frankly my dear, it's not.

Chile, ignore him. He knows damn well that that hairstyle has The Velvet Rope written all over it. Even critics pointed this out. He's just another bothered hater.

Rihanna does rock the hair style better than janet ..... two things Janet does not do well

1 - Being Too Sexy / Pushing Sex

2- Dress and Hair Styles ... she's no fashion icon for sure

oh dear God..i'm outta here..fanatic people piss me off...U 2 should go around knocking on people's door preaching about janet. I really really like janet...janet, the album, is in my top 10 90's album...but, excuse me, can I have my own opinion? of course I can, just as sure as u can kiss my ass

u know what both of them are rockin' a sideshow bob he came fisrt

Dreamer2 said:

midiscover said:

Chile, ignore him. He knows damn well that that hairstyle has The Velvet Rope written all over it. Even critics pointed this out. He's just another bothered hater.

Rihanna does rock the hair style better than janet ..... two things Janet does not do well

1 - Being Too Sexy / Pushing Sex

2- Dress and Hair Styles ... she's no fashion icon for sure

RiRi, as much as I love her, could neva rock this dress...

go2theMax said:

oh dear God..i'm outta here..fanatic people piss me off...U 2 should go around knocking on people's door preaching about janet. I really really like janet...janet, the album, is in my top 10 90's album...but, excuse me, can I have my own opinion? of course I can, just as sure as u can kiss my ass

u know what both of them are rockin' a sideshow bob he came fisrt

Okay, now that wasn't even necessary. Venom aside, we still luv u...

SEANMAN said:

Dreamer2 said:

Rihanna does rock the hair style better than janet ..... two things Janet does not do well

1 - Being Too Sexy / Pushing Sex

2- Dress and Hair Styles ... she's no fashion icon for sure

RiRi, as much as I love her, could neva rock this dress...

Er...Yeah she could and she would have better make up done.....WTF? is Janet got on Clown Paint?.....

I hope your a guy .... cause this is no a cool picture of janet ....

SEANMAN said:

go2theMax said:

oh dear God..i'm outta here..fanatic people piss me off...U 2 should go around knocking on people's door preaching about janet. I really really like janet...janet, the album, is in my top 10 90's album...but, excuse me, can I have my own opinion? of course I can, just as sure as u can kiss my ass

u know what both of them are rockin' a sideshow bob he came fisrt

Okay, now that wasn't even necessary. Venom aside, we still luv u...

that's what I was talking about...

Dreamer2 said:

midiscover said:

Chile, ignore him. He knows damn well that that hairstyle has The Velvet Rope written all over it. Even critics pointed this out. He's just another bothered hater.

Rihanna does rock the hair style better than janet ..... two things Janet does not do well

1 - Being Too Sexy / Pushing Sex

2- Dress and Hair Styles ... she's no fashion icon for sure

Nah. Rihanna looks silly with the hairstyle. It worked best on Janet. Those two things you listed works on Janet, not Rihanna.

janet looks like a woman, rihanna looks like a girl, that's the difference

and they don't dress the same IMO

BlaqueKnight said:

Militant said:

My 9 year old niece has no interest in MTV and shows like Skins are aimed at teens. It's a show that originated here and I don't know a single person under 13 who watches it, children have no interest in watching shows like that. My niece doesn't care about any of that Hannah Montana or High School Musical nonsense either, she has better taste than that.

However, my niece does listen to the Billboard charts, and has Lady Gaga, Britney and Rihanna on her iPod. Her parents are the most responsible people I know and the best parents, they aren't going to stop her listening to music when we're all professional musicians ourselves and 95% of what's on the Billboard is perfectly fine.

I just think Rihanna ought to realize that maybe pushing a song like "S&M" might not be the best idea given that she has a young fanbase and it's not really appropriate for them to be going around singing about whips and chains. Even though they have no understanding of the meaning, it's still not exactly subtle.

The American pop music market is designed to corrupt the youth. Its a large tool for mass subliminal suggestions, which is why so many singers and rappers shout brand names in their songs. pretty much the entire market is selling sex to teenaged girls these days. We're out of the violent 90s, so sex is what's left. Well, sex and drugs. Rihanna doesn't write. The words coming out of her mouth are not hers. They are probably that of some porn-addicted grown ass man who has gone so far into their own fetishized reality that they don't think of what is and isn't acceptable OR the song was probably written for another artist (most likely) who caters to a more adult crowd and somebody at the company heard it and decided it was time to make the "good girl gone bad" live up to her moniker. Either way, its no surprise. The youth of today are being attacked from all sides; bombarded with titilation from every direction by corporate fucks who want to get a generation into their mindset so they can sell them shit. Nothing in the pop market is jst about music anymore. Its all "building a brand" bullshit. Pop music is just a tool nowadays.

Oh, and everybody knows damn well that's Janet's old hairstyle. Ray Charles could see that.

[Edited 1/22/11 10:44am]

Conspiracy!

midiscover said:

Dreamer2 said:

Rihanna does rock the hair style better than janet ..... two things Janet does not do well

1 - Being Too Sexy / Pushing Sex

2- Dress and Hair Styles ... she's no fashion icon for sure

Nah. Rihanna looks silly with the hairstyle. It worked best on Janet. Those two things you listed works on Janet, not Rihanna.

Really...... ok....

oh....Tom Ford is on the phone.....

the style also reminds me of kelis

Dreamer2 said:

SEANMAN said:

RiRi, as much as I love her, could neva rock this dress...

Er...Yeah she could and she would have better make up done.....WTF? is Janet got on Clown Paint?.....

I hope your a guy .... cause this is no a cool picture of janet ....

Oh please Janet won a best-dressed countdown for her outfit that year at the MTV awards. Ur livin' in a dreamworld.

SEANMAN said:

go2theMax said:

no, dear stan, I don't. I have all her albuns from control 2 20 Y.O. (yeah i even supported that utter shit)..I don't think i can be classified as a hater..i can say I'm a fan, stan...i just don't think that rihanna is "rockin janet circa 97"..is that 2 much 4 u 2 bear?

Chile, is u blind? It's not being a stan to say that Rihanna's current style is very much Janet circa 1997-1998 (intentionally or not, who knows?). People act as if it's the first time a pop star has worn this hairdo when, frankly my dear, it's not.

I give Janet plenty of credit AND blame for being a nice woman.

It would potentially be too easy for Janet to go after Rhianna in much the same way Lil'Kim have been going after Nicki Minaj for being a clone/wannabe/mini-me.

Dreamer2 said:

midiscover said:

Nah. Rihanna looks silly with the hairstyle. It worked best on Janet. Those two things you listed works on Janet, not Rihanna.

Really...... ok....

oh....Tom Ford is on the phone.....:phonecall:

Yes, and Janet has him on speeddial

TonyVanDam said:

SEANMAN said:

Chile, is u blind? It's not being a stan to say that Rihanna's current style is very much Janet circa 1997-1998 (intentionally or not, who knows?). People act as if it's the first time a pop star has worn this hairdo when, frankly my dear, it's not.

I give Janet plenty of credit AND blame for being a nice woman.

It would potentially be too easy for Janet to go after Rhianna in much the same way Lil'Kim have been going after Nicki Minaj for being a clone/wannabe/mini-me.

There's nuttin' but luv between the two ladies...

midiscover said:

Dreamer2 said:

Rihanna does rock the hair style better than janet ..... two things Janet does not do well

1 - Being Too Sexy / Pushing Sex

2- Dress and Hair Styles ... she's no fashion icon for sure

Nah. Rihanna looks silly with the hairstyle. It worked best on Janet. Those two things you listed works on Janet, not Rihanna.

SEANMAN said:

Dreamer2 said:

Er...Yeah she could and she would have better make up done.....WTF? is Janet got on Clown Paint?.....

I hope your a guy .... cause this is no a cool picture of janet ....

Oh please Janet won a best-dressed countdown for her outfit that year at the MTV awards. Ur livin' in a dreamworld.

Oh...the world famous MTV awards for fashion......

Yeah i need to wake quick.....hope i do miss this years.....

Dreamer2 said:

SEANMAN said:

Oh please Janet won a best-dressed countdown for her outfit that year at the MTV awards. Ur livin' in a dreamworld.

Oh...the world famous MTV awards for fashion......

Yeah i need to wake quick.....hope i do miss this years.....

Too late suga, u already missed the boat

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SEANMAN said:

Dreamer2 said:

Oh...the world famous MTV awards for fashion......

Yeah i need to wake quick.....hope i do miss this years.....

Too late suga, u already missed the boat

[Edited 1/22/11 12:13pm]

US MTV Titanic .......

glad i missed that fashion lesson boat....

Dreamer2 said:

SEANMAN said:

Too late suga, u already missed the boat

[Edited 1/22/11 12:13pm]

US MTV Titanic .......

glad i missed that fashion lesson boat....

While u sit at home in your designer duds and $2,000 Louboutins, I'm sure . Don't be mad, dahlin'

SEANMAN said:

Dreamer2 said:

US MTV Titanic .......

glad i missed that fashion lesson boat....

While u sit at home in your designer duds and $2,000 Louboutins, I'm sure . Don't be mad, dahlin'

Why be mad ? I'm only talking about MTV not knowing a damn thing about fashion ....which is fact... they could give out awards until the cows come home it won't mean diddly...

Dreamer2 said:

SEANMAN said:

While u sit at home in your designer duds and $2,000 Louboutins, I'm sure . Don't be mad, dahlin'

Why be mad ? I'm only talking about MTV not knowing a damn thing about fashion ....which is fact... they could give out awards until the cows come home it won't mean diddly...

Actually, they had fashion designers deciding who was the best dressed--had nothing to do with MTV itself. And they didn't give awards, it was just a top ten countdown. But, you're probably to young to know or even remember. And I wasn't implying that it "meant" anything, just stating facts. Which is something you don't seem to do too well with. Why am I even going back and forth with someone who said Janet Jackson of all people isn't a style icon? Clearly you've bumped you head somewhere along the way. Poor thing.

[Edited 1/22/11 13:23pm]

SEANMAN said:

Dreamer2 said:

Why be mad ? I'm only talking about MTV not knowing a damn thing about fashion ....which is fact... they could give out awards until the cows come home it won't mean diddly...

Actually, they had fashion designers deciding who was the best dressed--had nothing to do with MTV itself. And they didn't give awards, it was just a top ten countdown. But, you're probably to young to know or even remember. And I wasn't implying that it "meant" anything, just stating facts. Which is something you don't seem to do too well with.

[Edited 1/22/11 13:20pm]

this is a boring thread ....