apparently the original reference track of A Place Of No Name written and recorded by Spino

bboy87 said:

apparently the original reference track of A Place Of No Name written and recorded by Spino

Hmm interesting so apparently this is the whole song Michael sang. Hopefully we'll hear his version soon.

It just gets weirder with Jason Malachi

His twitter account/s have mentioned being hacked in the past:

His most recent post is:

I want everyone to know that my facebook page and other accounts have been hacked into. I did not authorize anything the hacker is posting!! about 9 hours ago via web

Lol - it just gets crazier and crazier.

Militant said:

If you ask me, it is VERY unlikely that Jason's page was hacked.

He cracked from the pressure, and is now backtracking to save his ass from potential lawsuits.

The original message was there for 9 hours. That's MORE than enough time for a hacked account to be recovered and control regained.

There's other red flags, too.

It is him on the songs... this video alone makes that more than clear.

Co-sign

It's like he realized we were on to him, he signed a confession and told the whole damn world. And now, he lawyered up and denies it all.

He knew the MJ police (aka us) were on his ass...

SherryJackson said:

Militant said:

If you ask me, it is VERY unlikely that Jason's page was hacked.

He cracked from the pressure, and is now backtracking to save his ass from potential lawsuits.

The original message was there for 9 hours. That's MORE than enough time for a hacked account to be recovered and control regained.

There's other red flags, too.

It is him on the songs... this video alone makes that more than clear.

Co-sign

It's like he realized we were on to him, he signed a confession and told the whole damn world. And now, he lawyered up and denies it all.

He knew the MJ police (aka us) were on his ass...

I dare anyone to say THAT isn't the same person! There is absolutely no way you can deny it, surely?????

And regarding Jason's coming out (with the truth) why the hell does this have to be a big mess of drama too? Shame it couldn't of just happened sensible.

And a question those that know (perhaps you Militant?) has he denied it was him singing or just that it was him releasing those messages?

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Unbelievable! Which persons had to know about this? Riley, the estate people?

BlueNote

CPest1 said:

SherryJackson said:

Co-sign

It's like he realized we were on to him, he signed a confession and told the whole damn world. And now, he lawyered up and denies it all.

He knew the MJ police (aka us) were on his ass...

I dare anyone to say THAT isn't the same person! There is absolutely no way you can deny it, surely?????

And regarding Jason's coming out (with the truth) why the hell does this have to be a big mess of drama too? Shame it couldn't of just happened sensible.

And a question those that know (perhaps you Militant?) has he denied it was him singing or just that it was him releasing those messages?

[Edited 1/18/11 1:08am]

Way back when Breaking News was first released Jason issued a statement saying it wasn't him.

novabrkr said:

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*dies*

Have you guys checked the credits on "Michael"? On each MJ album, you can read "lead vocals by" "background vocals by". Well, not on "Michael". Maybe even if someone sued them, nothing would happen cause nobody claims in the credits that it's Mike.

Swa said:

CPest1 said:

I dare anyone to say THAT isn't the same person! There is absolutely no way you can deny it, surely?????

And regarding Jason's coming out (with the truth) why the hell does this have to be a big mess of drama too? Shame it couldn't of just happened sensible.

And a question those that know (perhaps you Militant?) has he denied it was him singing or just that it was him releasing those messages?

[Edited 1/18/11 1:08am]

Way back when Breaking News was first released Jason issued a statement saying it wasn't him.

Yeah that's true. But still I wonder if he has said clearly that the statement is false or just that it 'wasn't him' that released it? You'd think he would be quite clear in saying that he didn't sing on any of those tracks. Although it seems that would make him a liar...

I wrote this on MJJC re the Cascio songs:

It's not too hard to imitate a lower register - which is why the first verse on Monster and KYHU sound as if they could be Michael. But it's impossible to imitate the kind of powerful, all out singing he does at the end of Earth Song, or the end of Slave To The Rhythm or the second verse of Blue Gangster. The ability to sing like that is unique to Michael Jackson.

The person singing on the Cascio songs does none of that.

[Edited 1/18/11 9:59am]

Militant said:

I would post this on MJFC but there a tad bit hostile over there!

Dieter Wiesner says,'I caught Bashir tampering with Jackson's luggage'

Help me, people....

I'm thinking of deleting half my facebook friend's list. They be bothering me that I'm wrong about the whole Jason Malachi thing...and I'm getting them with increasing frequency.

Thing is....I know I'm not. I'm glad to know I'm not alone in my thinking either (love you guys ). But unless I see video of Michael singing those songs, I'll never believe it's him.

I had one joker swear up and down Michael was on those damn 3 songs, including Stay. And he was using Wikipedia as his reference...yeah....that's reliable. Please, at one point, I WROTE PART OF A WIKIPEDIA PAGE!

SherryJackson said:

Help me, people....

I'm thinking of deleting half my facebook friend's list. They be bothering me that I'm wrong about the whole Jason Malachi thing...and I'm getting them with increasing frequency.

Thing is....I know I'm not. I'm glad to know I'm not alone in my thinking either (love you guys ). But unless I see video of Michael singing those songs, I'll never believe it's him.

I had one joker swear up and down Michael was on those damn 3 songs, including Stay. And he was using Wikipedia as his reference...yeah....that's reliable. Please, at one point, I WROTE PART OF A WIKIPEDIA PAGE!

That's why I rarely add MJ fans on Facebook

bboy87 said:

SherryJackson said:

Help me, people....

I'm thinking of deleting half my facebook friend's list. They be bothering me that I'm wrong about the whole Jason Malachi thing...and I'm getting them with increasing frequency.

Thing is....I know I'm not. I'm glad to know I'm not alone in my thinking either (love you guys ). But unless I see video of Michael singing those songs, I'll never believe it's him.

I had one joker swear up and down Michael was on those damn 3 songs, including Stay. And he was using Wikipedia as his reference...yeah....that's reliable. Please, at one point, I WROTE PART OF A WIKIPEDIA PAGE!

That's why I rarely add MJ fans on Facebook

You're lucky...me and my bleeding heart...

SherryJackson said:

Help me, people....

I'm thinking of deleting half my facebook friend's list. They be bothering me that I'm wrong about the whole Jason Malachi thing...and I'm getting them with increasing frequency.

Thing is....I know I'm not. I'm glad to know I'm not alone in my thinking either (love you guys ). But unless I see video of Michael singing those songs, I'll never believe it's him.

I had one joker swear up and down Michael was on those damn 3 songs, including Stay. And he was using Wikipedia as his reference...yeah....that's reliable. Please, at one point, I WROTE PART OF A WIKIPEDIA PAGE!

*Gives Sherry a big hug*

Militant said:

If you ask me, it is VERY unlikely that Jason's page was hacked.

He cracked from the pressure, and is now backtracking to save his ass from potential lawsuits.

The original message was there for 9 hours. That's MORE than enough time for a hacked account to be recovered and control regained.

There's other red flags, too.

It is him on the songs... this video alone makes that more than clear.

ITA. I think it's really suspicious that the message was up there for so long. I guess that's why he supposedly had his phone off so he claim stupid even though his manager was alerted and so was everyone else. Before everyone tells me that I'm being some kind of weird conspiracy theorist, it's very, very easy for someone to do some stupid nonsense and then claim that they were 'hacked.'

Example, last year, Hayley Williams from the group Paramore seemed to have sent a picture of her breasts to Twitter rather than her boyfriend apparently. Her official statement from her team came as "it was due to hackers." Hackers my ass. She did something really stupid and then instead of taking responsibility for it, they just blamed on this group of ghost hackers that are out there. This isn't to say that hackers don't exist, because they do, (the Sarah Palin email hack comes to mind), but it's too easy to claim such nonsense nowadays. Even if there are a lot of really...passionate fans, why only stop at the one message and really go for broke? Probably because there was NO hacker(s) in the first place.

ali23 said:

Dieter Wiesner says,'I caught Bashir tampering with Jackson's luggage'

Damn Bashit!

ali23 said:

SherryJackson said:

Help me, people....

I'm thinking of deleting half my facebook friend's list. They be bothering me that I'm wrong about the whole Jason Malachi thing...and I'm getting them with increasing frequency.

Thing is....I know I'm not. I'm glad to know I'm not alone in my thinking either (love you guys ). But unless I see video of Michael singing those songs, I'll never believe it's him.

I had one joker swear up and down Michael was on those damn 3 songs, including Stay. And he was using Wikipedia as his reference...yeah....that's reliable. Please, at one point, I WROTE PART OF A WIKIPEDIA PAGE!

*Gives Sherry a big hug*

MattyJam said:

I wrote this on MJJC re the Cascio songs:

Lets just back up for one second and consider the likelihood of MJ even agreeing to work with the Cascio's.

MJ has always worked with established, big name producers, Quincy, Darkchild, Riley, Jam & Lewis. And he's always co-written songs with professional songwriters (Bill Bottrell, Bryan Loren, David Foster, Dr Freeze etc). He has NEVER co-written songs with random unknown amateurs before.

Lets be honest here, if MJ was still alive and he released a brand new album, do you really believe that the songwriting skills of Eddie Cascio would feature alongside songs produced by the likes of will.i.am, Teddy Riley and Darkchild? Do you honestly think that Michael Jackson is that charitable to his friends that he would co-write and produce songs with complete amateurs? We're talking about Michael Jackson here. He wouldn't even work with The Neptunes even though they practically begged him. He refused to work on songs even with his own family. And we're expected to believe that he co-wrote these songs with an Italian restaurant owner???

As for the authenticity of the vocals, the biggest question I have for the believers is this: Why is that there isn't even one moment where he sings all out on the Cascio songs?

I'm talking about the kind of vocals only MJ can do, where he's spitting out the lyrics in that grovelly aggressive way - the way he sings on practically every single up-tempo song he's done since Bad. He even sings like this on his ballads, look at a song like Heaven Can Wait for example ("Can't stand to see nobody kissing touching her"), One More Chance ("tell her this from MEEE-EEEE") or his ad-libs at the end of You Are My Life.

There is not one single moment of this on any of the five Cascio tracks we've heard. The feeble attempts at ad-libbing on songs like Monster and Breaking News don't have an ounce of the vocal strength that Michael usually delivers. On Breaking News he ad-libs in falsetto for pete's sake! When Michael Jackson is doing an angry up-tempo track he doesn't ad-lib at the climax of the song in a whispery falsetto. He sings all out, he sounds pissed off, he uses that amazing grovelly aggressive tone which I've never heard a single impersonator successfully duplicate. See Unbreakable, Jam, Threatened, Slave To The Rhythm, Scream.

It's not too hard to imitate a lower register - which is why the first verse on Monster and KYHU sound as if they could be Michael. But it's impossible to imitate the kind of powerful, all out singing he does at the end of Earth Song, or the end of Slave To The Rhythm or the second verse of Blue Gangster. The ability to sing like that is unique to Michael Jackson.

The person singing on the Cascio songs does none of that.

[Edited 1/18/11 9:59am]

Great post. The prosecution rests.

Great post Matty. Co-sign all of it. But good luck convincing some of those people at MJJC. I swear some of them are either deaf, stupid, or a combination of both.

Militant said:

Great post Matty. Co-sign all of it. But good luck convincing some of those people at MJJC. I swear some of them are either deaf, stupid, or a combination of both.

don't forget blind. All those huge, overdone, sparkly, and poorly made signatures definitely do damage on one's eyes

bboy87 said:

Militant said:

Great post Matty. Co-sign all of it. But good luck convincing some of those people at MJJC. I swear some of them are either deaf, stupid, or a combination of both.

don't forget blind. All those huge, overdone, sparkly, and poorly made signatures definitely do damage on one's eyes

That design on that forum is enough to make you blind.

It's funny how the last refuge of sane-thinking (or in the area relative thereof) MJ fans is a Prince forum...with a thread devoted entirely to him, along with separate threads devoted to Janet, Jermaine, and even the family in itself.

And we're still alive.

SherryJackson said:

It's funny how the last refuge of sane-thinking (or in the area relative thereof) MJ fans is a Prince forum...with a thread devoted entirely to him, along with separate threads devoted to Janet, Jermaine, and even the family in itself.

And we're still alive.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Question, is "Body" and everything else Marlon did better than anything from his album "Baby Tonight"?

I really liked the stuff he did with Janet and Betty Wright and Barry White. It's like something happened after 1985, his stuff just sounded stronger in the early 80s. Burning Desire is jammin' I think Rio is the best thing he may have did.

vs. his Baby Tonight material

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Check this out guys!!!

A small story from the NYPost dating back from December 1998:

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Dec 21, 1998 -

SOMETIMES Michael Jackson can be so darned normal you have to wonder if all that Wacko Jackson stuff isn't just a publicity stunt that has gotten way out of hand.
Take the play date on which the Gloved One took baby daughter Paris with the youngest children of hotel heir Rick and Kathy Hilton the other day.
The pop star was staying at his Trump Tower digs and doing some holiday shopping when he decided to drop in on the Hilton kids 9 year old Baron and Conrad, 4.
They were thrilled and have been telling all their parents friends about it ever since .

It seems Michael was lots of fun. The reputed germaphile wasn't wearing a surgical mask wasn't heavily made up, wasn't even decked out in one of his toy soldier uniforms. He turned up in Gucci loafers, jeans and a sweater and was happy to let everyone present hold little Paris.

At one point Conrad sidled up to Michael and asked if he knew Janet Jackson. ''She's my sister'' Michael replied without taking an ounce of umbrage. ''Do you dance?'' was Conrad's next query. Michael gave a spirited demonstration and the kid was happy.

There was a nanny along for Paris, but [Michael Jackson] insisted on spoon- feeding her himself, in between joining in games with the kids. "He's a really cool dad," said Baron [Kathy Hilton] of Jackson, who has now winged back to his Neverland ranch to spend the holidays with Paris, his son, Prince, and their mom.