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Chuck D.'s Open Letter http://allhiphop.com/stor...42191.aspx | |
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1) This letter would feel more sincere if your ass didn't use half of it to pimp your latest goings ons
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2) Less talk. More action. If you indeed have a plan to counter the negative, just do it. Space for sale... | |
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He sounded like he's serving two masters from his recent comments. | |
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I can see his point but it's what he is saying is nothing really new. It's cool that Public Enemy do get worldwide love though. And for an american hiphop artist to bash american hiphop is refreshingly candid LOL.
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Love it, love it, love it!!
When I lived in Germany there were some straight dope-ass rappers on the mic!! Absolute Beginner was a constant favorite!!
I can't even imagine what the scene is like now... A working class Hero is something to be ~ Lennon | |
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Of course it's nothing new. Chuck's own bandmate Professor Griff have been telling people in much deeper detail for the last couple of years. Griff's fans have recorded his lectures and posted them on YouTube to prove this point.
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It doesn't make ANY of the points he addressed less valid though.
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I see Chuck's message went over some heads. People in general have been conditioned to look for flaws and dissect rather than look for the light at the end of the tunnel. This is our pathway to failure. | |
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I couldn't agree with him more. I'm sure he'll catch hell for his suggestion of a Hip Hop Commission though. I can see cats now screaming like republicans, "NO REGULATIONS! Chuck can handle it though. | |
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It's very sad indeed................ | |
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I hope people are looking for a light at the end of the tunnel. I wouldn't want anyone to dissect it any further than it already has. Besides we heard the story like ten million times. | |
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Hence why I am leery. Just being honest. Space for sale... | |
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Its a collective though, plenty are giving in to it, no one has a gun to their heads to do anything at this point. All the things mentioned have been said b4 by many, and yet the public buys it, thats the whole thing, we can bitch about the owned labels and viacom and this and that but people are buying it still, or downloading it whatever, but they are doing it, they are going along with the culture. Remember when everyone wanted and tried to be different? Hip culture and fashion is about being the same, as is every other culture now. No one is championing anyting different, i keep hearing oh the net has some talent, BS, talent is all over the place, its not just on the net, the net is just as much shit and corporate greed as any other thing. I mean come on now, shit like You Tube isnt showing me raw talent, im seeing nothing coming from YouTube or Face Book or whatever, its crap all of it, same shit, new disguise, with the label of INDIE, its just like INDIE films, everyone thinks they can direct or do a movie, well 99% of the Population cant, go see some indie films and see stereotyping multiplied just as much there as it is in Hollywood, scarier thing though im seeing the stereotyping in Indie films, done by the same race of the talent within, in every respect. Shit is not gonna change till a whole generation dies off, sorry to be blunt, but thats it, everything is cheap now, and the talent is even cheaper, and worse. Chuck has been preaching for decades, but the difference was back then in the 80's he did something with his voice, now, he is a blogger. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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There you go. | |
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Always sad when a voice cries in the wilderness and no one listens... Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise. | |
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We are the captain's of our own souls . . . | |
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The main reason I hope there's an afterlife, is so conspiracy theorists can realize how much of their lives they wasted.
Chuck is not a dumb man, so I don't know why he can't understand that promoting hatred of Jews while constantly railing against bigotry is the height of irony. | |
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1. Are you Jewish? I ask THIS question because if I'm not mistaken, you had some sharp criticism about Spike Lee a while back.
2. Are you not aware that Chuck, Griff, & Flavor Flav have their own differences of opitions among themselves concerning reality TV, the music industry, ans so forth? | |
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1. I don't believe in religion, so - according to most here - I guess that would mean I'm not Jewish. And, yes - Spike is guilty of the same hypocrisy.
2. Well, "Griff" and "Flavor Flav" are just out and out dumbasses, so I really don't care about their opinions. And if you're trying to say that I'm confusing Chuck D's sentiments with theirs, he was the one who rapped, "Still, they got me like Jesus!" and "Swindler's Lust". | |
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I remember THAT verse from the original uncut version of Welcome 2 The Terrordome.
According to Chuck D, the verbal backlash he received due to the fallout between Professor Griff & David Mills over the Jewish Zionism issue was no different from the kind of verbal backlash Yahshusa was receiving in his life.
The topic is better off as it's own thread in P&R. But the point is Chuck was rapping about how he was feeling AND how he was treated at the time. Michael Jackson did the same thing a few years later with They Don't Care About Us, and THAT song was also taken out of context as Michael bashing Jewish people. | |
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Okay, lets go with the whole Jesus thing being true (I think it's myth, but lets not quibble).
Chuck D didn't receive a "verbal backlash" due to the "fallout" between Professor Griff and David Mills. There was an outcry about Griff's moronic and hateful comments about Jews and Mr. "D" turfed him as a result. He then released a track wherein he implied he was being crucified à la Jesus by those evil Jews who also killed Christ (an anti-Semitic golden oldie).
How was he "treated at the time" that would justify anti-Semitic comments? Is there anyway someone could be treated that would justify anti-Black comments? And shit wasn't taken out of context with "They Don't Care About Us" (Michael Jackson's anti-Semitism was confirmed in the infamous 'They do it on purpose' answering machine message). Not coincidentally, one Mr. Spike Lee was the director of the music video that reinstated the anti-Semitic MJ lyrics. | |
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P.S. How do you define "Zionism"? | |
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Chuck D = who cares man | |
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Based on THAT kind of understanding (which BTW, is very wrong because Chuck did NOT say THAT neither), Chuck D & Michael Jackson were anti-Semitism to some degree. Why? Because they dare to say publicly or privately how some Jewish Zionists treated them to the point that they might as well have been killed on the cross/stake like Yahshusa.
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Based on THAT kind of understanding (which BTW, is very wrong because Chuck did NOT say THAT neither), Chuck D & Michael Jackson were anti-Semitism to some degree. Why? Because they dare to say publicly or privately how some Jewish Zionists treated them to the point that they might as well have been killed on the cross/stake like Yahshusa.
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And what would you say he meant by "Still, they got me like Jesus!"?
Still waiting on your definition of Zionism. Regardless of what that is, though, try this on for size:
Why do you say the KKK are racist? Because they dare to say publicly or privately how some blacks, Jews, etc. "treated" them.
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The root word is Zion. The suffix is "ism". | |
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And "Zionism", to you, means...? | |
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I'm ready for 2012. | |
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I'm ready for 2013. | |
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