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Timmy84

Chuck D.'s Open Letter

http://allhiphop.com/stor...42191.aspx

Chuck D's Open Letter On Media, Messages & Pimps
Monday, January 03, 2011 9:19 AM | 87 comments
By Chuck D of Public Enemy



[Note: Chuck D wrote this essay as a letter to Chuck "Jigsaw" Creekmur (AllHipHop.com) and Davey D (DaveyD.com). With permission, the message by the Public Enemy leader, has been edited slightly into a scathing editorial about the media, Hip-Hop and the how the culture has been pimped by a mere few.]

Chuck D:

I really don't know what constitutes for "relevant" coverage in HIP-HOP news in America these days, but I really want to give you all a heads up. As you know I've been through three passports, 76 countries on the regular in the name of Hip-Hop since 1987 and in 2010, although I've never stopped traveling the earth this year, I've seen, heard and felt some new things.

As far as RAP and HIP-HOP, it's like USA Olympic basketball, the world has parity now and have surpassed the USA in ALL of the basic fundamentals of HIP-HOP - TURNTABLISM, BREAKING, GRAFFITI, and now EMCEEING with succinct mission , meaning and skill. Skill-wise rappers spitting three languages, have created super rappers to move the crowd with intensity and passion. The "arrogant" American comes in blackface, but if there was a HIP-HOP or Rap Olympics, I really don't think the United States would get Gold, Silver or Brass or even @ss for that sake.

Personally, Public Enemy has been setting records in a record book that doesn't really exist. The 20th year anniversary of FEAR OF A BLACK PLANET has become into a year and a half celebration of eights legs and five continents. All the while, looking at a HIP-HOP Planet across 25 countries while still somewhat supportive of American rap, the rest of the world has surpassed the U.S. in skill, in fundamentals and commitment to their communities. Public Enemy's mission is to set the path, pave the road for cats to do their thing for a long time as long as they do it right.

Because of the lack of support from local radio, television and community in the United States, the ability for "local" acts to thrive in their own radius has killed the ability to connect and grow into a proper development as a performer, entertainer and artist. Rappers trying to get put on to a national contract hustle from a NEW YORK or LOS ANGELES corporation has caused the art-form to atrophy from the bottom, while never getting signed to a top echelon that really doesn't exist, but to a very few.

HIP-HOP NEWS spreads like any other mainstream NEWS in America. The garbage that's unfit to print has now floated on websites and blogs like ish. For example a rapper working in the community gets obscured while if that same rapper robbed a gas station he'd get top coverage and be label a "rapper" while getting his upcoming or current music somewhat put on blast, regardless of its quality which of course is subjective like any other art. RAP sites and blogs are mimicking the New York POST.

This is not mere complaint , this is truth and its coming down on Americans like rain without a raincoat with cats screaming how they ain't wet. This is real. The other night upon finishing groundbreaking concert performances in Johannesburg we followed a special free concert in Soweto. To make a point that our agenda was to "show? and encourage the Hip-Hop community to be comfortable in its mind and skin without chasing valueless Amerikkkan values.

Never have so many been pimped by so few.

It does the people of the planet little good to hear that an an artist is famous and rich, will wear expensive jewelry straight from the mines, show it off, stay it the hotel, ride in limos, do the VIP with chilled champagne in the clubs, ape and monkey the chicks (meaning not even talking) and keep the dudes away with slave paid bodyguards when real people come close. The mimic of the VIACOM-sanctioned video has run tired, because it shows off, does NOT inspire and it says NOTHING.

Here in South Africa PUBLIC ENEMY has done crucial groundbreaking performances. Its the same level of smashing the house that we've done this year in Moscow, New York, Paris, London , Chicago and other places this year. This is not news We are not trying to prove any point other than to show that a classic work is timeless and doesn't have a demographic per se. The Rolling Stones and U2 are NOT measured by mere tracks' they are measured by the all-around event they present. The art of the performance has left Hip-Hop whereas somebody has led artists to do more performing off the stage than on it. The agenda here is to create artist exchange

This serves as a call to the infrastructure-less Hip-Hop game in Amerikkka. We know what your hustle is, but what is your work and job here? Faking it until making it runs its course in a recession, which is a depression for Black folks who increasingly are becoming more skill-less as they become jobless.

Never have so many been pimped by so few.

Since the music has so much power, and image has become everything to the point that it can dictate the direction of a person in their life, it is my mission now to really become a "freedom fighter" and stop this radiation. With Jay-Z and others who, for years would faint their worth, the statement of "with great power comes great responsibility," is more true. Words are powerful and they can both start wars and bring peace. This cannot be taken lightly. Its important for the words to be body with the community. If not one dime of $250 million doesn't benefit the people who contribute to it then why does that warrant coverage above the will and effort of many in the music who have done great things.

Never have so many been pimped by so few.

I turned 50 this year. Everyday I get the question whats up with Hip-Hop today. If nothing was wrong the question wouldn't be the dominating question I get. I do massive interviews worldwide. I'm covered from varied aspects Hip-Hop, Public Enemy, social issues, musicology in general. So, my interactive world dialogue is deeper and more present than 140 characters.

Never have so many been pimped by so few.

I am tired of the silence of people that know better. There is nothing worse than a person that knows better and does worse. Or says nothing.

And makes excuses for bulls**t.

You know damn well HIP-HOP in the USA has fell way the f**k off as the American dollar and much of America itself. Held up and dictated by White business lawyers, accountants in New York, and Los Angeles offices.

To dictate to a community and not even live or be with the people is offensive. VIACOMs reach into Africa to turn HIP-HOP in to Amerfrica, which is as exploitative as those slave-makers who carried us across on boats. The decisions made in a boardroom in New York City while these cats scurry to their high rises, and suburban mansions from cultural profiteering must stop. And I'm going to do something about it.

Never have so many been pimped by so few.

My agenda of Hip-Hop around the world is in line with its creators, who followed Black Music. The music had the people's back. It has never been my personal agenda. Americans arrogantly have no back. Hip-Hop has followed this. I am disturbed by the fact that I tell artists that doing work in their community will get them little or no buzz for their effort, but in the same sense if they robbed or shot someone or did a bid they would get national and sometimes international attention.

Never have so many been pimped by so few.

So many of your favorite people suck up to the NBA and NFL, because it has order and when you make the game look bad David Stern or Robert Goddell is kicking their @sses out . They are the indisputable HWIC, and negroes are in line and silenced. But here in Hip-Hop the dysfunctionality reward makes the money that puts food on many tables.

Its time, because I hear too many excuses. I wont allow what's in the USA f**k up what I and others worked hard to instill. I drive a '94 Montero, a '97 Acura, and have no expensive jewelry. There is nothing on this planet materially that is better than myself. This is what I instill in many doing Hip-Hop that nothing is greater than what is given. These games of people doing anything to get things has seeped into my way so therefore witness some radical virtual things coming from me in protecting the art-form of Hip-Hop.

Never have so many been pimped by so few.

So, I'm going after the few.

I'm tired of it.

Chuck D from CaPEtown, South Africa.

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Chuck D is an emcee, author, producer and civic leader, among other things. He also happens to front a legendary, revolutionary rap group called Public Enemy. Public Enemy is renown for their politically charged lyrics, frenetic production style and penchant for shaking up the power structure.

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Reply #1 posted 01/04/11 6:45pm

sosgemini

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1) This letter would feel more sincere if your ass didn't use half of it to pimp your latest goings ons

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2) Less talk. More action. If you indeed have a plan to counter the negative, just do it.

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Reply #2 posted 01/04/11 6:54pm

Timmy84

sosgemini said:

1) This letter would feel more sincere if your ass didn't use half of it to pimp your latest goings ons

and

2) Less talk. More action. If you indeed have a plan to counter the negative, just do it.

He sounded like he's serving two masters from his recent comments.

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Reply #3 posted 01/04/11 7:35pm

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I can see his point but it's what he is saying is nothing really new. It's cool that Public Enemy do get worldwide love though. And for an american hiphop artist to bash american hiphop is refreshingly candid LOL.

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Reply #4 posted 01/04/11 8:08pm

RenHoek

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Love it, love it, love it!!

When I lived in Germany there were some straight dope-ass rappers on the mic!! Absolute Beginner was a constant favorite!!

I can't even imagine what the scene is like now...

A working class Hero is something to be ~ Lennon
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Reply #5 posted 01/04/11 11:37pm

TonyVanDam

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thesexofit said:

I can see his point but it's what he is saying is nothing really new. It's cool that Public Enemy do get worldwide love though. And for an american hiphop artist to bash american hiphop is refreshingly candid LOL.

Of course it's nothing new. Chuck's own bandmate Professor Griff have been telling people in much deeper detail for the last couple of years. Griff's fans have recorded his lectures and posted them on YouTube to prove this point.

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Reply #6 posted 01/04/11 11:49pm

Harlepolis

sosgemini said:

1) This letter would feel more sincere if your ass didn't use half of it to pimp your latest goings ons

and

2) Less talk. More action. If you indeed have a plan to counter the negative, just do it.

It doesn't make ANY of the points he addressed less valid though.

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Reply #7 posted 01/05/11 12:47am

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I see Chuck's message went over some heads. People in general have been conditioned to look for flaws and dissect rather than look for the light at the end of the tunnel. This is our pathway to failure.

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Reply #8 posted 01/05/11 9:40am

Musicslave

I couldn't agree with him more. I'm sure he'll catch hell for his suggestion of a Hip Hop Commission though. I can see cats now screaming like republicans, "NO REGULATIONS! Chuck can handle it though.

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Reply #9 posted 01/05/11 9:49am

Graycap23

BlaqueKnight said:

I see Chuck's message went over some heads. People in general have been conditioned to look for flaws and dissect rather than look for the light at the end of the tunnel. This is our pathway to failure.

It's very sad indeed................

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Reply #10 posted 01/05/11 10:42am

Timmy84

BlaqueKnight said:

I see Chuck's message went over some heads. People in general have been conditioned to look for flaws and dissect rather than look for the light at the end of the tunnel. This is our pathway to failure.

I hope people are looking for a light at the end of the tunnel. I wouldn't want anyone to dissect it any further than it already has. Besides we heard the story like ten million times.

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Reply #11 posted 01/05/11 12:00pm

sosgemini

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Timmy84 said:

BlaqueKnight said:

I see Chuck's message went over some heads. People in general have been conditioned to look for flaws and dissect rather than look for the light at the end of the tunnel. This is our pathway to failure.

I hope people are looking for a light at the end of the tunnel. I wouldn't want anyone to dissect it any further than it already has. Besides we heard the story like ten million times.

Hence why I am leery. Just being honest. shrug

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Reply #12 posted 01/05/11 6:26pm

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Its a collective though, plenty are giving in to it, no one has a gun to their heads to do anything at this point. All the things mentioned have been said b4 by many, and yet the public buys it, thats the whole thing, we can bitch about the owned labels and viacom and this and that but people are buying it still, or downloading it whatever, but they are doing it, they are going along with the culture. Remember when everyone wanted and tried to be different? Hip culture and fashion is about being the same, as is every other culture now. No one is championing anyting different, i keep hearing oh the net has some talent, BS, talent is all over the place, its not just on the net, the net is just as much shit and corporate greed as any other thing. I mean come on now, shit like You Tube isnt showing me raw talent, im seeing nothing coming from YouTube or Face Book or whatever, its crap all of it, same shit, new disguise, with the label of INDIE, its just like INDIE films, everyone thinks they can direct or do a movie, well 99% of the Population cant, go see some indie films and see stereotyping multiplied just as much there as it is in Hollywood, scarier thing though im seeing the stereotyping in Indie films, done by the same race of the talent within, in every respect. Shit is not gonna change till a whole generation dies off, sorry to be blunt, but thats it, everything is cheap now, and the talent is even cheaper, and worse. Chuck has been preaching for decades, but the difference was back then in the 80's he did something with his voice, now, he is a blogger.


"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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Reply #13 posted 01/05/11 6:32pm

Timmy84

lastdecember said:

Its a collective though, plenty are giving in to it, no one has a gun to their heads to do anything at this point. All the things mentioned have been said b4 by many, and yet the public buys it, thats the whole thing, we can bitch about the owned labels and viacom and this and that but people are buying it still, or downloading it whatever, but they are doing it, they are going along with the culture. Remember when everyone wanted and tried to be different? Hip culture and fashion is about being the same, as is every other culture now. No one is championing anyting different, i keep hearing oh the net has some talent, BS, talent is all over the place, its not just on the net, the net is just as much shit and corporate greed as any other thing. I mean come on now, shit like You Tube isnt showing me raw talent, im seeing nothing coming from YouTube or Face Book or whatever, its crap all of it, same shit, new disguise, with the label of INDIE, its just like INDIE films, everyone thinks they can direct or do a movie, well 99% of the Population cant, go see some indie films and see stereotyping multiplied just as much there as it is in Hollywood, scarier thing though im seeing the stereotyping in Indie films, done by the same race of the talent within, in every respect. Shit is not gonna change till a whole generation dies off, sorry to be blunt, but thats it, everything is cheap now, and the talent is even cheaper, and worse. Chuck has been preaching for decades, but the difference was back then in the 80's he did something with his voice, now, he is a blogger.

There you go. confused

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Reply #14 posted 01/05/11 7:49pm

babynoz

Graycap23 said:

BlaqueKnight said:

I see Chuck's message went over some heads. People in general have been conditioned to look for flaws and dissect rather than look for the light at the end of the tunnel. This is our pathway to failure.

It's very sad indeed................

Always sad when a voice cries in the wilderness and no one listens...

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #15 posted 01/05/11 8:40pm

TD3

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We are the captain's of our own souls . . . wink

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Reply #16 posted 01/06/11 7:53am

Ace

TonyVanDam said:

thesexofit said:

I can see his point but it's what he is saying is nothing really new. It's cool that Public Enemy do get worldwide love though. And for an american hiphop artist to bash american hiphop is refreshingly candid LOL.

Of course it's nothing new. Chuck's own bandmate Professor Griff have been telling people in much deeper detail for the last couple of years. Griff's fans have recorded his lectures and posted them on YouTube to prove this point.

The main reason I hope there's an afterlife, is so conspiracy theorists can realize how much of their lives they wasted.

Chuck is not a dumb man, so I don't know why he can't understand that promoting hatred of Jews while constantly railing against bigotry is the height of irony.

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Reply #17 posted 01/06/11 4:09pm

TonyVanDam

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Ace said:

The main reason I hope there's an afterlife, is so conspiracy theorists can realize how much of their lives they wasted.

Chuck is not a dumb man, so I don't know why he can't understand that promoting hatred of Jews while constantly railing against bigotry is the height of irony.

1. Are you Jewish? I ask THIS question because if I'm not mistaken, you had some sharp criticism about Spike Lee a while back.

2. Are you not aware that Chuck, Griff, & Flavor Flav have their own differences of opitions among themselves concerning reality TV, the music industry, ans so forth?

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Reply #18 posted 01/06/11 4:19pm

Ace

TonyVanDam said:

Ace said:

The main reason I hope there's an afterlife, is so conspiracy theorists can realize how much of their lives they wasted.

Chuck is not a dumb man, so I don't know why he can't understand that promoting hatred of Jews while constantly railing against bigotry is the height of irony.

1. Are you Jewish? I ask THIS question because if I'm not mistaken, you had some sharp criticism about Spike Lee a while back.

2. Are you not aware that Chuck, Griff, & Flavor Flav have their own differences of opitions among themselves concerning reality TV, the music industry, ans so forth?

1. I don't believe in religion, so - according to most here - I guess that would mean I'm not Jewish. And, yes - Spike is guilty of the same hypocrisy.

2. Well, "Griff" and "Flavor Flav" are just out and out dumbasses, so I really don't care about their opinions. And if you're trying to say that I'm confusing Chuck D's sentiments with theirs, he was the one who rapped, "Still, they got me like Jesus!" and "Swindler's Lust".

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Reply #19 posted 01/06/11 4:35pm

TonyVanDam

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Ace said:

TonyVanDam said:

1. Are you Jewish? I ask THIS question because if I'm not mistaken, you had some sharp criticism about Spike Lee a while back.

2. Are you not aware that Chuck, Griff, & Flavor Flav have their own differences of opitions among themselves concerning reality TV, the music industry, ans so forth?

1. I don't believe in religion, so - according to most here - I guess that would mean I'm not Jewish. And, yes - Spike is guilty of the same hypocrisy.

2. Well, "Griff" and "Flavor Flav" are just out and out dumbasses, so I really don't care about their opinions. And if you're trying to say that I'm confusing Chuck D's sentiments with theirs, he was the one who rapped, "Still, they got me like Jesus!" and "Swindler's Lust".

I remember THAT verse from the original uncut version of Welcome 2 The Terrordome. nod

According to Chuck D, the verbal backlash he received due to the fallout between Professor Griff & David Mills over the Jewish Zionism issue was no different from the kind of verbal backlash Yahshusa was receiving in his life.

The topic is better off as it's own thread in P&R. But the point is Chuck was rapping about how he was feeling AND how he was treated at the time. Michael Jackson did the same thing a few years later with They Don't Care About Us, and THAT song was also taken out of context as Michael bashing Jewish people.

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Reply #20 posted 01/06/11 5:05pm

Ace

TonyVanDam said:

According to Chuck D, the verbal backlash he received due to the fallout between Professor Griff & David Mills over the Jewish Zionism issue was no different from the kind of verbal backlash Yahshusa was receiving in his life.

Okay, lets go with the whole Jesus thing being true (I think it's myth, but lets not quibble).

Chuck D didn't receive a "verbal backlash" due to the "fallout" between Professor Griff and David Mills. There was an outcry about Griff's moronic and hateful comments about Jews and Mr. "D" turfed him as a result. He then released a track wherein he implied he was being crucified à la Jesus by those evil Jews who also killed Christ (an anti-Semitic golden oldie).

The topic is better off as it's own thread in P&R. But the point is Chuck was rapping about how he was feeling AND how he was treated at the time. Michael Jackson did the same thing a few years later with They Don't Care About Us, and THAT song was also taken out of context as Michael bashing Jewish people.

How was he "treated at the time" that would justify anti-Semitic comments? Is there anyway someone could be treated that would justify anti-Black comments? And shit wasn't taken out of context with "They Don't Care About Us" (Michael Jackson's anti-Semitism was confirmed in the infamous 'They do it on purpose' answering machine message). Not coincidentally, one Mr. Spike Lee was the director of the music video that reinstated the anti-Semitic MJ lyrics.

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Reply #21 posted 01/06/11 5:06pm

Ace

P.S. How do you define "Zionism"?

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Reply #22 posted 01/06/11 5:33pm

Alamine

BlaqueKnight said:

I see Chuck's message went over some heads. People in general have been conditioned to look for flaws and dissect rather than look for the light at the end of the tunnel. This is our pathway to failure.

Chuck D = who cares man

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Reply #23 posted 01/06/11 5:40pm

TonyVanDam

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Ace said:

Okay, lets go with the whole Jesus thing being true (I think it's myth, but lets not quibble).

Chuck D didn't receive a "verbal backlash" due to the "fallout" between Professor Griff and David Mills. There was an outcry about Griff's moronic and hateful comments about Jews and Mr. "D" turfed him as a result. He then released a track wherein he implied he was being crucified à la Jesus by those evil Jews who also killed Christ (an anti-Semitic golden oldie).

How was he "treated at the time" that would justify anti-Semitic comments? Is there anyway someone could be treated that would justify anti-Black comments? And shit wasn't taken out of context with "They Don't Care About Us" (Michael Jackson's anti-Semitism was confirmed in the infamous 'They do it on purpose' answering machine message). Not coincidentally, one Mr. Spike Lee was the director of the music video that reinstated the anti-Semitic MJ lyrics.

omg disbelief

Based on THAT kind of understanding (which BTW, is very wrong because Chuck did NOT say THAT neither), Chuck D & Michael Jackson were anti-Semitism to some degree. Why? Because they dare to say publicly or privately how some Jewish Zionists treated them to the point that they might as well have been killed on the cross/stake like Yahshusa.

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TonyVanDam

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Okay, lets go with the whole Jesus thing being true (I think it's myth, but lets not quibble).

Chuck D didn't receive a "verbal backlash" due to the "fallout" between Professor Griff and David Mills. There was an outcry about Griff's moronic and hateful comments about Jews and Mr. "D" turfed him as a result. He then released a track wherein he implied he was being crucified à la Jesus by those evil Jews who also killed Christ (an anti-Semitic golden oldie).

How was he "treated at the time" that would justify anti-Semitic comments? Is there anyway someone could be treated that would justify anti-Black comments? And shit wasn't taken out of context with "They Don't Care About Us" (Michael Jackson's anti-Semitism was confirmed in the infamous 'They do it on purpose' answering machine message). Not coincidentally, one Mr. Spike Lee was the director of the music video that reinstated the anti-Semitic MJ lyrics.

omg disbelief

Based on THAT kind of understanding (which BTW, is very wrong because Chuck did NOT say THAT neither), Chuck D & Michael Jackson were anti-Semitism to some degree. Why? Because they dare to say publicly or privately how some Jewish Zionists treated them to the point that they might as well have been killed on the cross/stake like Yahshusa.

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Reply #25 posted 01/06/11 5:47pm

Ace

TonyVanDam said:

Ace said:

Okay, lets go with the whole Jesus thing being true (I think it's myth, but lets not quibble).

Chuck D didn't receive a "verbal backlash" due to the "fallout" between Professor Griff and David Mills. There was an outcry about Griff's moronic and hateful comments about Jews and Mr. "D" turfed him as a result. He then released a track wherein he implied he was being crucified à la Jesus by those evil Jews who also killed Christ (an anti-Semitic golden oldie).

How was he "treated at the time" that would justify anti-Semitic comments? Is there anyway someone could be treated that would justify anti-Black comments? And shit wasn't taken out of context with "They Don't Care About Us" (Michael Jackson's anti-Semitism was confirmed in the infamous 'They do it on purpose' answering machine message). Not coincidentally, one Mr. Spike Lee was the director of the music video that reinstated the anti-Semitic MJ lyrics.

omg disbelief

Based on THAT kind of understanding (which BTW, is very wrong because Chuck did NOT say THAT neither), Chuck D & Michael Jackson were anti-Semitism to some degree. Why? Because they dare to say publicly or privately how some Jewish Zionists treated them to the point that they might as well have been killed on the cross/stake like Yahshusa.

And what would you say he meant by "Still, they got me like Jesus!"?

Still waiting on your definition of Zionism. Regardless of what that is, though, try this on for size:

Why do you say the KKK are racist? Because they dare to say publicly or privately how some blacks, Jews, etc. "treated" them.

"Nobody wins unless everybody wins."

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Reply #26 posted 01/06/11 5:49pm

TonyVanDam

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Ace said:

P.S. How do you define "Zionism"?

The root word is Zion. The suffix is "ism".

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Reply #27 posted 01/06/11 5:52pm

Ace

TonyVanDam said:

Ace said:

P.S. How do you define "Zionism"?

The root word is Zion. The suffix is "ism".

And "Zionism", to you, means...?

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Reply #28 posted 01/06/11 6:14pm

Marrk

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I'm ready for 2012.

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Reply #29 posted 01/06/11 6:57pm

Timmy84

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I'm ready for 2012.

I'm ready for 2013. lol

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