Militant said:

Britney's "Blackout" is the definitive pop record of the last ten years.

Nothing comes close, especially not "The Fame" with it's 5 great songs and the rest all garbage. They should have kept the best songs from "The Fame", not released it, then waited until Gaga wrote the songs from "Fame Monster" and released it as her debut. But who knows if she'd have been able to write the great songs on "Fame Monster" without having done "The Fame" first...... she might have continued to write garbage like 75% of her debut....

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Is this a joke?

Name a better, more influential pop record of the last decade than "Blackout" if you want to challenge that opinion.

Every pop producer I know was trying to figure out how to do what they did with "Gimme More", "Piece Of Me", "Break The Ice", etc. And I know a LOT of producers.

Even Justin Timberlake's last album is far more deserving of that title.

trueiopian said:

Militant said:

Britney's "Blackout" is the definitive pop record of the last ten years.

Nothing comes close, especially not "The Fame" with it's 5 great songs and the rest all garbage. They should have kept the best songs from "The Fame", not released it, then waited until Gaga wrote the songs from "Fame Monster" and released it as her debut. But who knows if she'd have been able to write the great songs on "Fame Monster" without having done "The Fame" first...... she might have continued to write garbage like 75% of her debut....

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Is this a joke?

LOL!! For some reason I never checked out Blackout I might need to. And as far as this new single its okay but it’s not her best.

musicjunky318 said:

Dreamer2 said:

It's not hard task to get a number one in France ..... Prince did it ....

Let's not get over the top, it's Jan the whole of 2011 is left and GaGa has not has a single out ...let's say the big gun's have not fired!

Britney is about as hot as my xmas turkey ...

The facts are she can't sing, she don't write her music or can play a damn note, she can just about dance ....i'd say her career is behind her....watch after the marketing hype how her sales drop of .....she's living on past glory and luck...

Itunes records get broken everyday .... who cares...

OMG YOU HATERS KILL ME. YOU'VE BEEN SAYING THE SAME SHIT FOR YEARS AND SHE STILL HAS HIT AFTER HIT. PUT TWO AND TWO TOGETHER DUMBASS. YOU'RE NOT MAKING SENSE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO LIKE HER, YOU DON'T HAVE TO RESPECT HER, YOU MAY THINK SHE'S UNTALENTED...THAT'S YOUR OPINION. BUT DON'T GO AROUND LYING ABOUT HER SUCCESS WHEN IT'S RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR FACE. YOU CAN'T DISTORT FACT.

WHAT ARE YOU DENSE? OR IS YOUR ASS SO FAR UP GAGA'S PUSS THAT YOU CAN'T DISTINGUISH A HIT FROM A FLOP?

- A FLOP DOESN'T SELL 500K THE FIRST WEEK THEN GOES ON TO DO ALMOST 2 MILLION IN ALBUMS SALES WITH LIMITED PROMOTION.

- A FLOP DOESN'T COLLECT MULTIPLE #1'S RADIO AND ON THE HOT 100

- A FLOP DOESN'T GROSS OVER $130 MILLION FROM FROM A SOLD OUT TOUR ALL OVER THE WORLD.

- A FLOP DOESN'T BANK OVER $64 MILLION IN A YEAR WHEN ALL SHE DID WAS SLEEP, EAT, AND SHIT.

- A FLOP DOESN'T GENERATE PUBLIC INTEREST. TV APPEARANCES, INTERVIEWS, WHEREVER SHE IS RATINGS GO UP.

PAST GLORY MY ASS! DON'T BE MAD CUZ YOUR FAVES COULD NEVER.

What the fuck is wrong with you ? I'm sitting here reading this whole post and damn

Militant said:

Britney's "Blackout" is the definitive pop record of the last ten years.

Nothing comes close, especially not "The Fame" with it's 5 great songs and the rest all garbage. They should have kept the best songs from "The Fame", not released it, then waited until Gaga wrote the songs from "Fame Monster" and released it as her debut. But who knows if she'd have been able to write the great songs on "Fame Monster" without having done "The Fame" first...... she might have continued to write garbage like 75% of her debut....

I'm not sure if I would go that far, but Blackout is by far her best work and extremely underrated. I think that anybody who's actually listened to it and have given it a chance, would have to admit that it's a solid record.

trueiopian said:

Militant said:

Britney's "Blackout" is the definitive pop record of the last ten years.

Nothing comes close, especially not "The Fame" with it's 5 great songs and the rest all garbage. They should have kept the best songs from "The Fame", not released it, then waited until Gaga wrote the songs from "Fame Monster" and released it as her debut. But who knows if she'd have been able to write the great songs on "Fame Monster" without having done "The Fame" first...... she might have continued to write garbage like 75% of her debut....

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Is this a joke?

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I was having a great time just laughing at the responses to this thread until I read this nonsensical, bullshit and had to respond.

Seriously, I can name more than one pop album in the last decade that I thought was 10 times better than 'Blackout':

John Mayer 'Continuum'

Black Eye Peas 'The E.N.D.'

Gwen Stefani 'Love, Music, Angel, Baby'

Rihanna 'Good Girl Gone Bad'

Justin Timberlake 'FutureSex/LoveSounds'

Amy Winehouse 'Back to Black'

I don't even like the majority of these artists, but after being open-minded and renting their albums for free from the library, I have 2 admit that they were solid pop albums. I'm sorry, but Britney is just an image with a soundtrack; always has been and after hearing this new song, always will be.

Breaking records, winning awards, and selling millions of copies of an album doesn't mean an artist is talented...Milli Vanilli are still the poster children for this reasoning. This new song...seriously? You could have put anyone's vocals to that beat and it would still sound like what it really is...a techno song, which is all 'dance pop' is. What moron came up with that stupid ass new title like this is a new sound? I love how mofos tried to make autotune seem like a new idea even though that shit had been around since the late 80s. Giving Britney credit for bringing a new dance sound to the US? MOFO please, her PRODUCERS did that. She just nodded her head and said, 'Ooh, I like that', stood in front of the popper, and warbled out the lyrics that her producers, thankfully, altered. Why she's getting praised like she actually sat behind the console, turned the nobs, and made this beat from scratch with her own hands is totally beyond my understanding. Some people seriously need to step away from the meth, because it's bad for you.

If there is an instrumental to this, I'd buy it over the one with her vocals because the beats are hot...everything else about the song is totally forgettable. I give props to her producers because they made a hot track and did a nice job altering her voice to suit it. She's a success because her label marketed the hell out of her image at a damn good time and she was 'smart' enough to do as she was told which is why she's still relevant now. As long as she remains a puppet and lets them work the strings, she'll be a success for another 10 years. If Christina would have kept doing as she was told, she may have had a chance to be on Britney's success level, but she wanted to think for herself and look where it got her.

Taylor Swift seems to be the only one who's allowed to think for herself and her albums are selling like hotcakes, so kudos to her. Honestly, if Britney's fans think she's great, ('Godney' really? my lawd the world really may be ending next year at the rate of idol worship this new generation is setting) than more power to them because they are the ones who will actually go and drop money on this album. I'll just rent it from the library for free like I do for the majority of new albums that come out. I can save my money; and, not give her any Soundscan points, which is all that really matters in the music industry anyways. Her fans will buy 8 copies of the album when it drops so she can debut at number 1 like they have always done so congrats in advance to Britney on another number one album.

IMO, Christina would have had success if she had done electro-pop right. Bionic shows to me that she doesn't know what true electronica is. Birds of Prey is the only song that is similar. That is a huge mistake since that was the theme of her album.

For the record......Love Britney, Kylie but NEITHER brought in "new sounds", their producers brought it in.

estelle81 said:

trueiopian said:

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Is this a joke?

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I was having a great time just laughing at the responses to this thread until I read this nonsensical, bullshit and had to respond.

Seriously, I can name more than one pop album in the last decade that I thought was 10 times better than 'Blackout':

John Mayer 'Continuum'

Black Eye Peas 'The E.N.D.'

Gwen Stefani 'Love, Music, Angel, Baby'

Rihanna 'Good Girl Gone Bad'

Justin Timberlake 'FutureSex/LoveSounds'

Amy Winehouse 'Back to Black'

I don't even like the majority of these artists, but after being open-minded and renting their albums for free from the library, I have 2 admit that they were solid pop albums. I'm sorry, but Britney is just an image with a soundtrack; always has been and after hearing this new song, always will be.

Breaking records, winning awards, and selling millions of copies of an album doesn't mean an artist is talented...Milli Vanilli are still the poster children for this reasoning. This new song...seriously? You could have put anyone's vocals to that beat and it would still sound like what it really is...a techno song, which is all 'dance pop' is. What moron came up with that stupid ass new title like this is a new sound? I love how mofos tried to make autotune seem like a new idea even though that shit had been around since the late 80s. Giving Britney credit for bringing a new dance sound to the US? MOFO please, her PRODUCERS did that. She just nodded her head and said, 'Ooh, I like that', stood in front of the popper, and warbled out the lyrics that her producers, thankfully, altered. Why she's getting praised like she actually sat behind the console, turned the nobs, and made this beat from scratch with her own hands is totally beyond my understanding. Some people seriously need to step away from the meth, because it's bad for you.

If there is an instrumental to this, I'd buy it over the one with her vocals because the beats are hot...everything else about the song is totally forgettable. I give props to her producers because they made a hot track and did a nice job altering her voice to suit it. She's a success because her label marketed the hell out of her image at a damn good time and she was 'smart' enough to do as she was told which is why she's still relevant now. As long as she remains a puppet and lets them work the strings, she'll be a success for another 10 years. If Christina would have kept doing as she was told, she may have had a chance to be on Britney's success level, but she wanted to think for herself and look where it got her.

Taylor Swift seems to be the only one who's allowed to think for herself and her albums are selling like hotcakes, so kudos to her. Honestly, if Britney's fans think she's great, ('Godney' really? my lawd the world really may be ending next year at the rate of idol worship this new generation is setting) than more power to them because they are the ones who will actually go and drop money on this album. I'll just rent it from the library for free like I do for the majority of new albums that come out. I can save my money; and, not give her any Soundscan points, which is all that really matters in the music industry anyways. Her fans will buy 8 copies of the album when it drops so she can debut at number 1 like they have always done so congrats in advance to Britney on another number one album.

I dont think she has to worry about her fans buying multiple copies, with her album coming out in March there is nothing even on the horizon to compete with her for sales. I think Britney is a bit more in control of things than a typical pop star like a "Kesha" or someone like that. Like her or not she has well passed that stage of "having to worry" about where her albums land chartwise, she has been doing this almost 13 years now, though i know some people will say "arent her 15 minutes up yet" are u serious?

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estelle81 said:

trueiopian said:

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Is this a joke?

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I was having a great time just laughing at the responses to this thread until I read this nonsensical, bullshit and had to respond.

Seriously, I can name more than one pop album in the last decade that I thought was 10 times better than 'Blackout':

John Mayer 'Continuum'

Black Eye Peas 'The E.N.D.'

Gwen Stefani 'Love, Music, Angel, Baby'

Rihanna 'Good Girl Gone Bad'

Justin Timberlake 'FutureSex/LoveSounds'

Amy Winehouse 'Back to Black'

oh my gosh...u really ran out of decent arguments here. I don't believe either that blackout is a masterpiece but just a decent pop album. But i agree with militant that it kinda became a trend setter for pop music...I'm not sayin that brit is responsible 4 that..all propz 4 the team behind her. but even ur precious xtina tried 2 follow that road, unsuccessfully as we all know by now.

as 4 HIAM...i think it's a fun pop track and certainly a dancefloor filler. The type of song that i don't listen in my home or my car, but that that i 4 sure would shake my ass 2 in club.

estelle81 said:

Seriously, I can name more than one pop album in the last decade that I thought was 10 times better than 'Blackout':

John Mayer 'Continuum'

Black Eye Peas 'The E.N.D.'

Gwen Stefani 'Love, Music, Angel, Baby'

Rihanna 'Good Girl Gone Bad'

Justin Timberlake 'FutureSex/LoveSounds'

Amy Winehouse 'Back to Black'

It's not about what YOU thought was better, it's about what was more influential.

Continuum was nothing new musically. Good album but brought nothing new to the table. Furthermore it made NO noise outside of the US.

BEP? Yes, Will.I.Am is arguably one of the most influential producers of the last decade too. But he didn't start doing electro house stuff until after "Blackout". People are jocking his style now for sure though, so I'll give you some credit for that nomination, but "The E.N.D" has not been more influential than "Blackout", although it has come close.

Gwen? Nah. Same old, same old. The Neptunes did stuff like that before her album and after it. And they were already on a downward slope. The most influential stuff the Neptunes did was back in 99/2000 when they did things like Noreaga's "Superthug" and Jay-Z's "Give It To Me (I Just Wanna Love You)". THAT was when everyone was jockin their production style, not when they worked with Gwen.

Rihanna? Please. Solid pop album but no discernable new musical identity or style. I don't remember hearing a million "Umbrella" clone songs, no matter how big that song was on it's own. Again, BIG but NOT influential.

Timberlake? AHAHAAHAHAHAA. With that wannabe Prince shit, hiring NPG members? No. The album was somewhat influential, because of one person - DANJAHANDZ. Guess what else Danja did that was more influential than JT's shit? Blackout.

Winehouse - again, great pop album with a retro throwback feel. I give her some credit for being part of that retro throwback movement, but she wasn't the only one. There was about 3 other girls here in England doing the exact same thing at the exact same time. The retro sound was already in full swing by the time Amy took advantage of it. It has been somewhat influential, but not more than "Blackout". Nowhere near.

I am telling you for a FACT that anyone and everyone making comtemporary dance/pop music went back to the drawing board after hearing "Blackout". People will tell you this themselves.

People who don't like Britney seem to act as if I'm giving HER ALONE the credit for making the most influential pop album. But this is like giving Michael ALL the credit for Thriller. They are the stars and the faces, but you cannot ignore the contributions of Quincy Jones, Rod Temperton and Bruce Swedien (in Michael's case), and Danja, Bloodshy & Avant, and Jim Beanz (who did all the vocal production for both Britney and Nelly Furtado amongst others, and co-wrote "Gimme More") in Britney's case.

I've literally seen long ass discussion threads on music forums - "How to get that sound/effect that Bloodshy & Avant used on "Piece Of Me", and about a million similar threads. If you don't think people were jocking that sound HARD, the fact is, you're wrong. I work in this industry, I make electropop/dance music, I'm signed to a major label, I know a shitload of artists and producers doing the same thing, and they'll ALL tell you that "Blackout" is unquestionably the most influential record from both a songwriting and production perspective, of the last decade.

Disagree with me all you want, but this remains true.

Oh look at this, Rolling Stone agree.

http://www.theprophetblog...five-years

Militant said:

Britney's "Blackout" is the definitive pop record of the last ten years.

Nothing comes close, especially not "The Fame" with it's 5 great songs and the rest all garbage. They should have kept the best songs from "The Fame", not released it, then waited until Gaga wrote the songs from "Fame Monster" and released it as her debut. But who knows if she'd have been able to write the great songs on "Fame Monster" without having done "The Fame" first...... she might have continued to write garbage like 75% of her debut....

You know what? I've never been a HUGE Britney fan, but I've always kept an ear out for her. Although I am Gaga crazy, and the Fame Monster is one of my favorite albums....ever, I'll have to give Britney her props on Blackout. That.Album.Is.The.Shit. It seems to me like it was slept upon. I wish she would explore that sound more. Perfect Lover, Get Naked, Hot As Ice, Break the Ice...that album is pure sonic fire.

One thing about Amy, people never take into consideration that Back to Black was not her debut. It was Frank. IA that she wasn't the first. Back to Black is still my favorite pop album of the last decade though and I honestly prefer In The Zone to Blackout.

This one here goes out to all Britney haters.

Militant said:

It's not about what YOU thought was better, it's about what was more influential.

Continuum was nothing new musically. Good album but brought nothing new to the table. Furthermore it made NO noise outside of the US.

BEP? Yes, Will.I.Am is arguably one of the most influential producers of the last decade too. But he didn't start doing electro house stuff until after "Blackout". People are jocking his style now for sure though, so I'll give you some credit for that nomination, but "The E.N.D" has not been more influential than "Blackout", although it has come close.

Gwen? Nah. Same old, same old. The Neptunes did stuff like that before her album and after it. And they were already on a downward slope. The most influential stuff the Neptunes did was back in 99/2000 when they did things like Noreaga's "Superthug" and Jay-Z's "Give It To Me (I Just Wanna Love You)". THAT was when everyone was jockin their production style, not when they worked with Gwen.

Rihanna? Please. Solid pop album but no discernable new musical identity or style. I don't remember hearing a million "Umbrella" clone songs, no matter how big that song was on it's own. Again, BIG but NOT influential.

Timberlake? AHAHAAHAHAHAA. With that wannabe Prince shit, hiring NPG members? No. The album was somewhat influential, because of one person - DANJAHANDZ. Guess what else Danja did that was more influential than JT's shit? Blackout.

Winehouse - again, great pop album with a retro throwback feel. I give her some credit for being part of that retro throwback movement, but she wasn't the only one. There was about 3 other girls here in England doing the exact same thing at the exact same time. The retro sound was already in full swing by the time Amy took advantage of it. It has been somewhat influential, but not more than "Blackout". Nowhere near.

I am telling you for a FACT that anyone and everyone making comtemporary dance/pop music went back to the drawing board after hearing "Blackout". People will tell you this themselves.

People who don't like Britney seem to act as if I'm giving HER ALONE the credit for making the most influential pop album. But this is like giving Michael ALL the credit for Thriller. They are the stars and the faces, but you cannot ignore the contributions of Quincy Jones, Rod Temperton and Bruce Swedien (in Michael's case), and Danja, Bloodshy & Avant, and Jim Beanz (who did all the vocal production for both Britney and Nelly Furtado amongst others, and co-wrote "Gimme More") in Britney's case.

I've literally seen long ass discussion threads on music forums - "How to get that sound/effect that Bloodshy & Avant used on "Piece Of Me", and about a million similar threads. If you don't think people were jocking that sound HARD, the fact is, you're wrong. I work in this industry, I make electropop/dance music, I'm signed to a major label, I know a shitload of artists and producers doing the same thing, and they'll ALL tell you that "Blackout" is unquestionably the most influential record from both a songwriting and production perspective, of the last decade.

Disagree with me all you want, but this remains true.

You're hilarious. You should become a comedian.

I had the same discussion about "influence" with a friend (not about Britney) who was claiming that Mariah's "Fantasy" remix had a great influence in pop culture because it started all the female sings/rapper raps songs and I was trying to make the same point that people here try to make to you I guess. That just because a song or an album is successful and people give it some credit, doesn't mean that it is influential if the trend it supposedly sets pre-existed. In the case of Britney's music, let's face it there is no originality in it. And just so you won't get me wrong, I do like Britney, I don't love her and I don't own any of her albums but I like her and I believe "Piece Of Me" is one of the best songs she ever made. But the music that she sings was a copy of '90s European music right from the beginning. Now everyone in the States seems to feel and act like Mozart simply because they copy that very same source (and we Europeans seem to gladly buy it and be excited for it for some strange reason), well good for them but it's not trend-setting because it is simply not original in the slightest.

Yes "Blackout" was a good album but if you wanna hear some of the best POP albums of the '00s, there are plenty of other choices for that if u just look at less successful albums. I like Britney and all, but no she ain't a musical innovator and she doesn't seem to aspire to be one either.

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StillDirrty said:

One thing about Amy, people never take into consideration that Back to Black was not her debut. It was Frank. IA that she wasn't the first. Back to Black is still my favorite pop album of the last decade though and I honestly prefer In The Zone to Blackout.

In The Zone was great. It's probably her most underrated album, but "Blackout" is still my fave.

StillDirrty said:

One thing about Amy, people never take into consideration that Back to Black was not her debut. It was Frank. IA that she wasn't the first. Back to Black is still my favorite pop album of the last decade though and I honestly prefer In The Zone to Blackout.

Exactly. Amy was doing the whole retro soul style since 2003. She's credited for reviving it and also bringing new interest in British artists specifically the females. For someone to even have the audacity to claim that generic pop album by Britney is more influential than Amy's work is hilarious.

Militant said:

JoeTyler said:

yeah? so f what? and what about the 20 MILLION PHYSICAL COPIES that Gaga has sold in JUST 2 years?

Listen you all, fine if you want to keep arguing if Britney is still successful or not (sadly, she still is) but just leave GaGa alone, please: she's like 1000000xtimes better than Britney. Comparing GaGa with Britney is like comparing Radiohead with Poison...tasteless, pointless and ridiculous...

Gaga is only mildly more talented than Britney and I already said I love them both, so go take a chill pill and calm your ass down.

Gaga is awesome, but she needs to stay relevant for a decade before she can even think about taking the throne. Don't forget the graphic:

This year will be interesting. We'll see how Britney's album and "Born This Way" stack up against each other.

Fuck outta here with that shit ! I've only been reading this hilarious thread, but even I had to chime in with this travesty of a comment. Lady Gaga is exponentially more talented than Britney, and I actually LIKE Britney! Gaga may come off as koo-koo and weird, but homegirl writes, plays piano, sings, dances, etc., and she does it well. Britney, at times, is basically a Janet clone more than anything. I'm happy for her success, but let's be real here...

Militant said:

Name a better, more influential pop record of the last decade than "Blackout" if you want to challenge that opinion.

Every pop producer I know was trying to figure out how to do what they did with "Gimme More", "Piece Of Me", "Break The Ice", etc. And I know a LOT of producers.

Roisin Murphy - Ruby Blue

Roisin Murphy - Overpowered

Robyn - Robyn

Robyn - Body Talk

[Edited 1/12/11 13:48pm]

Britney Spears' Pop Rivalries, From Christina Aguilera To Lady Gaga
'She's sort of left a lot of these girls in the dust,' one Spears expert tells MTV News.

For more than a decade, Britney Spears has been pitted against some of her pop peers, including Madonna, Jessica Simpson, Christian Aguilera and, most recently, Lady Gaga.

She's publicly buried the hatchet with Madonna and Aguilera — sharing a three-way kiss with the pair at the 2003 VMAs — and never really paid much attention to the hype of other so-called rivalries.

"Since the beginning of her career, she's always been pitted against whatever big pop person there is," MTV News' Jim Cantiello explained.

"I feel like artists have had rivalries with Britney and she hasn't really had rivalries with them," Entertainment Weekly's Leah Greenblatt added. "She's sort of left a lot of these girls in the dust."

While Brit has managed to stay on top all these years, a new pop princess might give her a run for her money. "I think Gaga's already been talking about what she is gonna do. She has said that her album is going to be more than just dance songs, and I'm guessing that Britney might be making a different type of album, which is great, because in that sense, Brit and Gaga don't have to compete," Perez Hilton said of any potential new rivalry. "They're each doing their own very distinct thing."

Greenblatt agreed: "It just seems like they're operating on different wavelengths right now. I mean, Britney's proven herself over such a longer period of time than Gaga has. I don't think that Gaga can just wipe her off the pop royalty board."

At the end of the day, it's not at all about competition, Cantiello explained. "Britney's going in the super dance route and Gaga's doing a super personal album," he said. "It comes a point where we've got to stop comparing the two."

Plus, it's hard for these two to really ever compete with one another, since Gaga has admitted to waving the Britney flag. "I was 13 when Britney became a star," she said in 2009. "I was amazed by the level of the superfan that Britney created. I want to bring back the feeling that I used to feel."

Who has been Britney's worthiest adversary? Share your thoughts in the comments!

http://www.mtv.com/news/a...gaga.jhtml

Militant said:

Name a better, more influential pop record of the last decade than "Blackout" if you want to challenge that opinion.

Every pop producer I know was trying to figure out how to do what they did with "Gimme More", "Piece Of Me", "Break The Ice", etc. And I know a LOT of producers.

WTF.......? is this still the org.... WTF? are you people talking about !

My baby cousin can make beats like that.....

This is the funniest thread i've read on here for years .... like people think Britney Speares is talented ..... and she has something to do with the sound thats produced .....sh*t.....

musicjunky318 said:

Britney Spears' Pop Rivalries, From Christina Aguilera To Lady Gaga
'She's sort of left a lot of these girls in the dust,' one Spears expert tells MTV News.

For more than a decade, Britney Spears has been pitted against some of her pop peers, including Madonna, Jessica Simpson, Christian Aguilera and, most recently, Lady Gaga.

She's publicly buried the hatchet with Madonna and Aguilera — sharing a three-way kiss with the pair at the 2003 VMAs — and never really paid much attention to the hype of other so-called rivalries.

"Since the beginning of her career, she's always been pitted against whatever big pop person there is," MTV News' Jim Cantiello explained.

"I feel like artists have had rivalries with Britney and she hasn't really had rivalries with them," Entertainment Weekly's Leah Greenblatt added. "She's sort of left a lot of these girls in the dust."

While Brit has managed to stay on top all these years, a new pop princess might give her a run for her money. "I think Gaga's already been talking about what she is gonna do. She has said that her album is going to be more than just dance songs, and I'm guessing that Britney might be making a different type of album, which is great, because in that sense, Brit and Gaga don't have to compete," Perez Hilton said of any potential new rivalry. "They're each doing their own very distinct thing."

Greenblatt agreed: "It just seems like they're operating on different wavelengths right now. I mean, Britney's proven herself over such a longer period of time than Gaga has. I don't think that Gaga can just wipe her off the pop royalty board."

At the end of the day, it's not at all about competition, Cantiello explained. "Britney's going in the super dance route and Gaga's doing a super personal album," he said. "It comes a point where we've got to stop comparing the two."

Plus, it's hard for these two to really ever compete with one another, since Gaga has admitted to waving the Britney flag. "I was 13 when Britney became a star," she said in 2009. "I was amazed by the level of the superfan that Britney created. I want to bring back the feeling that I used to feel."

Who has been Britney's worthiest adversary? Share your thoughts in the comments!

http://www.mtv.com/news/a...gaga.jhtml

So the org has come to this .......

Dreamer2 said:

Militant said:

Name a better, more influential pop record of the last decade than "Blackout" if you want to challenge that opinion.

Every pop producer I know was trying to figure out how to do what they did with "Gimme More", "Piece Of Me", "Break The Ice", etc. And I know a LOT of producers.

WTF.......? is this still the org.... WTF? are you people talking about !

My baby cousin can make beats like that.....

This is the funniest thread i've read on here for years .... like people think Britney Speares is talented ..... and she has something to do with the sound thats produced .....sh*t.....

I don't consider myself a big Britney fan either, but Militant makes a lot of good points about the Blackout album. Notice how so many songs now sound like trax from that album. The greatest example of this is "Telephone" that Gaga made famous. Brit recorded that song during the "Blackout" era.

daPrettyman said:

Dreamer2 said:

WTF.......? is this still the org.... WTF? are you people talking about !

My baby cousin can make beats like that.....

This is the funniest thread i've read on here for years .... like people think Britney Speares is talented ..... and she has something to do with the sound thats produced .....sh*t.....

I don't consider myself a big Britney fan either, but Militant makes a lot of good points about the Blackout album. Notice how so many songs now sound like trax from that album. The greatest example of this is "Telephone" that Gaga made famous. Brit recorded that song during the "Blackout" era.

Like what ? ....pleazzzz.... I'm no GaGa fan but i like the fact she has talent ..... Britney Spears is an act ... like alot of act's if they stick around long enough in Pop culture they become the norm .... At least GaGa hear to put a bit of life into an out of date US pop market!

daPrettyman said:

Dreamer2 said:

WTF.......? is this still the org.... WTF? are you people talking about !

My baby cousin can make beats like that.....

This is the funniest thread i've read on here for years .... like people think Britney Speares is talented ..... and she has something to do with the sound thats produced .....sh*t.....

I don't consider myself a big Britney fan either, but Militant makes a lot of good points about the Blackout album. Notice how so many songs now sound like trax from that album. The greatest example of this is "Telephone" that Gaga made famous. Brit recorded that song during the "Blackout" era.

Yes, because Gaga wrote it FOR HER.

Dreamer2 said:

daPrettyman said:

I don't consider myself a big Britney fan either, but Militant makes a lot of good points about the Blackout album. Notice how so many songs now sound like trax from that album. The greatest example of this is "Telephone" that Gaga made famous. Brit recorded that song during the "Blackout" era.

Like what ? ....pleazzzz.... I'm no GaGa fan but i like the fact she has talent ..... Britney Spears is an act ... like alot of act's if they stick around long enough in Pop culture they become the norm .... At least GaGa hear to put a bit of life into an out of date US pop market!

The argument is not about Brit being "talented". It's about her album influencing a sound. Sure, Gaga is talented, but a lot of her producers and co-writers also helped shape Britney's style and sound. That's why it's called pop music.

Everyone in pop music is an act. They are all fake in some way. Fake vocals, weak dancing, and tacky promo gimicks.