Of musicians who came had incredible debuts, and died a few years later all so close to each others demises to.

These where all brilliant artist's with brilliant band's behind them. They where only on the scene for a few years commercially.

The Door's first album is psychedelic blues rock at it's best, starting with the classic Break On Through, then going into the groovy soul Kitchen. Also containing the huge hit Light my Fire with one of the greatest keyboard rift's ever... Crystal Ship is an eerie song that i never get tired of, The funky Alabama Song is a classic and of course the haunting The End.

The Door's have a distinctive sound that even if you haven't heard that certain song from them you can instantly tell it was them.

Janis Joplin came out with Big Brother & The Holding Companies debut. A Great debut often foreshadowed by the masterpieces Cheap Thrills & Pearl.

But the debut, show's the band's great blues playing and Janet's fantastic vocals on song's like Bye, Bye Baby, Down On Me, Call On Me & All Is Loneliness

But it was the second album which contained the absolute masterpiece of Take Another Little Piece of My Heart, Summertime, I Need A Man To love, Summertime, Ball & Chain as well as Turtle blues.

The album was a fantastic showcase for the band, and Joplin's vocal talent's

Janet & The Big Brother Band's most beloved album and there best IMO is Pearl

Opening up with the fantastic Move over, then going into the emotional over charged Cry Baby. This album is full of nothing but grade A track's a musicians album.

The tragic A Woman Left Lonely is Joplin & Big Brother at there bluesy best, Get It While You Can is one of Janet's most emotional vocal performances. The classic Me & Bobby McGee & Mercedes Benz also balance out the album.

But in the middle of these 2 was the big dog Jimi Hendrix, coming on to the seen with Are You Experienced?

Now this is just a matter of opinion, and there has been many excellent, incredible debuts. But for me Are You Experienced is the best debut album of all time.

Jimi was in top form, as well as his incredible backing band, Noel Redding on bass and the amazing Mitch Mitchell on drums.

Nothing but 5 star song's on this album

The funky Foxy Lady, The hard rock of Manic Depression. The blues and seductiveness of Red House, the great cover of Hey Joe. Classic's like Fire with it's fast paced drum beat and guitar melody are still played on radio today, Can You See Me is a jazzy gem from Jimi proving he also can make the shortest song's Grade A. 3rd Stone From The Sun, is epic and show's Jimi's great vocal ability as well as one of his best solo's.

The classic and beautiful The Wind Cries Marry also round's the album out and the great closer Are You Experienced closed the album.

The album was a hit from the get go, people like Jimi did not care about sales but the album managed to make to number 2 on the charts right behind The Beatles best album Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band. And was the bests selling album of 1968.

Jimi's next album Axis:Bold As Love start's with the instrumental EXP, Then move's in to the classic Up From The Skies, Jimi show's he is not a one album wonder and has got plenty more rift's in his blood. And his backing band is at the top of there game, Spanish Castle Magic has some incredible drumming my Mitchell and some soulful singing by Jimi that i love. And i love the bridges and breakdowns in the song.

The classic Little Wing is on the album it was covered by Eric Clapton in Derek & The Dominos as well as Stevie Ray Vaughn & Sting,

Wait Until Tomorrow is one of my favorite jam's by Jimi and then there is the beautiful backing vocals by Roy Wood & Trevor Burton on You Got Me Floating.

And of course if 6 was 9 is on the album still played a lot today.

Overall another solid album, but Jimi's best album IMO is Electric Ladyland, with the incredible solo on Rainy Day, Dream Away. The powerful rift of Voodoo Child. The extraordinary jazzy Voodo Chille[ Which some people forget is the first part of Vodoo Child] Is a 15 minute Play by Jimi & the boy's.

The inner city blues of Crosstown Traffic and it's awesome rift, to the immortal classic of his cover of All Along The Watchtower & The soothing House Burning Down. The whole album is one of the greatest ever put out, and it's a sad it was the last album put out while Jimi was alive.

All these fantastic artist's died in a period of less then 2 year's,. but there still as popular if not more, then back in the day.

As you can see i am passionate on the subject=], i know it jumped around a lot but i want us to talk in depth of these great artist's and there legacy

Gunsnhalen said:

But it was the second album which contained the absolute masterpiece of Take Another Little Piece of My Heart, Summertime, I Need A Man To love, Summertime, Ball & Chain as well as Turtle blues.

You must really like this particular song.

I've got the box set of the Doors' albums but I don't really listen to it too much. They certainly had a distinct sound, probably due to Ray Manzarek's keyboards, and I have a lot of respect for them but their music doesn't really speak to me.

I've got a few of Janis' albums but again I don't really listen to them very often. Obviously she was a singular talent and I do like some of her stuff but like the Doors I never really connected to her music.

Of the three I am a much bigger fan of Jimi than the other two but I am by no means a huge fan. For the longest time I only had his first three albums but just this week I picked up Band of Gypsys, Blues, First Rays of the New Rising Sun, BBC Sessions and Valleys of Neptune. I haven't had a chance to listen to them yet but I am planning to over the weekend. I agree that Are You Experienced is a phenomenal debut, I'm not sure if it is the best ever but it is a corker.

This seems like as good a place to ask as any, does anyone know if South Saturn Delta is going to be reissued? I would have picked it up with the others but I think I'll wait and see if it gets a bonus dvd before I buy it.

These folks are all WAY bigger now than in their lifetimes. They never went fully "overground" so this is alll the more remarkable.

For me, each album they did was very much apart of a time where musical experimentation was possible and where acts took advantage of it. In the cases of Jimi and Janis, each album they did was quite the departure from their previous work. I mean Janis even had 3 entirely different bands in her 3-4 year career..Big Brother and the Holding Company, Kosmick Blues Band, and Full Tilt Boogie.....and each band had an entirely diff feel and sound. Jimi recorded w/ two diff bands...The JHE and Band of Gypsys and performed w/ a 3rd Gypsy, Sun, and Rainbows. The music BUYING public was more open minded then, esp the young ones. This was much less about calculated image/branding/visuals and more about where the artist wanted to take it. I doubt most younguns could hang w/o the idea of a spoon fed image because they CONSUME music differently than people did in the past. Today this sort of radical experimentation w/ your sound and image is simply not possible if an act wants to maintain a certain level of popularity.

As for The Doors, how many acts now could get away w/o having a bassist? Nothing more needs to be said there.

However, we shouldn't romanticize this era either. Much of this experimentation and open-mindedness came from drug excesses and this took out so many either from life totally or from their creative careers (think Syd Barrett and Brian Wilson). Eric Clapton and many others BARELY came out of the other end of that era alive and still able to function well as people and artists.

This era had it's goof points and bad points, but I don't think anything like it will ever happen again, at least in our lifetimes. Perhaps this is a good thing. The music is there for us to enjoy still, after all.

IOW, if you could somehow magically drop most of the mid 60s-early 70s folks into today...think they'd make it? Other than maybe The Beatles and a few more (maybe The Who and Jimi...very visual savvy like The Beatles) they'd probably be big failures because they were far less interested in visuals and being performers than instrumentalists and singer-songwriters. Imagine Janis in a Britney/Beyonce world? LOL...she was not "flawless" in looks and her sound not easily digested, so how far to "indie" would she be? Mama Cass doesn't even bear thinking about.

rialb said:

Gunsnhalen said:

But it was the second album which contained the absolute masterpiece of Take Another Little Piece of My Heart, Summertime, I Need A Man To love, Summertime, Ball & Chain as well as Turtle blues.

You must really like this particular song.

I've got the box set of the Doors' albums but I don't really listen to it too much. They certainly had a distinct sound, probably due to Ray Manzarek's keyboards, and I have a lot of respect for them but their music doesn't really speak to me.

I've got a few of Janis' albums but again I don't really listen to them very often. Obviously she was a singular talent and I do like some of her stuff but like the Doors I never really connected to her music.

Of the three I am a much bigger fan of Jimi than the other two but I am by no means a huge fan. For the longest time I only had his first three albums but just this week I picked up Band of Gypsys, Blues, First Rays of the New Rising Sun, BBC Sessions and Valleys of Neptune. I haven't had a chance to listen to them yet but I am planning to over the weekend. I agree that Are You Experienced is a phenomenal debut, I'm not sure if it is the best ever but it is a corker.

This seems like as good a place to ask as any, does anyone know if South Saturn Delta is going to be reissued? I would have picked it up with the others but I think I'll wait and see if it gets a bonus dvd before I buy it.

It's interesting that you say this about The Doors rialb because I believe this is true for many later people that discover their music. They seem to be far less popular overall and mostly appeal to certain subcultures like alternative, goth, emo, hipster, etc.. LOL...the Keraouc/Verlaine/Burroughs/Rimbaud crowd, if you will.

My theory on that is that The Doors took a very diff path than most late 60s group and were from a place off the beaten path as well. The Doors were much darker and less hippy vibe than most groups from their era and their sound/message was more NYC than LA. In many ways, I think of them w/ The Velvet Underground more than Janis, Wavey Gravy, Frank Zappa, and Country Joe.

Music was alot more local back then. It usually represented the sound and culture of the artist's chosen home community. Think of the Beatles and the Northern UK groups or The Who/Stones/Cream (London based). This was also true of US music back then and the Doors kind of defy this regionalism a bit. They are more difficult to place and label.

The funny thing is that LA was mostly off the beaten path back then musically, so their groups (think Love) seemed to feel even freer to experiement than Northern Cal based folks (Janis, Country Joe, even Frank Zappa had a certain hippy-esque vibe) or NYC/Midwestern folks who shared a somewhat similar sound and ethos (think Velvets, The Stooges, MC5, etc). It wasn't until the very end of the 60s that darker sounds to started come into popularity (tho the 70s it when it really happened)...think Velvets, Black Sabbath, Zeppelin...so The Doors were actually a bit ahead of the game.

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brooksie said:

As for The Doors, how many acts now could get away w/o having a bassist? Nothing more needs to be said there.

To be fair many of their studio recordings did feature a bass player.

The White Stripes and The Black Keys are two rock bands that do not feature a bass player, either live or on record.

brooksie said:

rialb said:

You must really like this particular song.

I've got the box set of the Doors' albums but I don't really listen to it too much. They certainly had a distinct sound, probably due to Ray Manzarek's keyboards, and I have a lot of respect for them but their music doesn't really speak to me.

I've got a few of Janis' albums but again I don't really listen to them very often. Obviously she was a singular talent and I do like some of her stuff but like the Doors I never really connected to her music.

Of the three I am a much bigger fan of Jimi than the other two but I am by no means a huge fan. For the longest time I only had his first three albums but just this week I picked up Band of Gypsys, Blues, First Rays of the New Rising Sun, BBC Sessions and Valleys of Neptune. I haven't had a chance to listen to them yet but I am planning to over the weekend. I agree that Are You Experienced is a phenomenal debut, I'm not sure if it is the best ever but it is a corker.

This seems like as good a place to ask as any, does anyone know if South Saturn Delta is going to be reissued? I would have picked it up with the others but I think I'll wait and see if it gets a bonus dvd before I buy it.

It's interesting that you say this about The Doors rialb because I believe this is true for many later people that discover their music. They seem to be far less popular overall and mostly appeal to certain subcultures like alternative, goth, emo, hipster, etc.. LOL...the Keraouc/Verlaine/Burroughs/Rimbaud crowd, if you will.

My theory on that is that The Doors took a very diff path than most late 60s group and were from a place off the beaten path as well. The Doors were much darker and less hippy vibe than most groups from their era and their sound/message was more NYC than LA. In many ways, I think of them w/ The Velvet Underground more than Janis, Wavey Gravy, Frank Zappa, and Country Joe.

Music was alot more local back then. It usually represented the sound and culture of the artist's chosen home community. Think of the Beatles and the Northern UK groups or The Who/Stones/Cream (London based). This was also true of US music back then and the Doors kind of defy this regionalism a bit. They are more difficult to place and label.

The funny thing is that LA was mostly off the beaten path back then musically, so their groups (think Love) seemed to feel even freer to experiement than Northern Cal based folks (Janis, Country Joe, even Frank Zappa had a certain hippy-esque vibe) or NYC/Midwestern folks who shared a somewhat similar sound and ethos (think Velvets, The Stooges, MC5, etc). It wasn't until the very end of the 60s that darker sounds to started come into popularity (tho the 70s it when it really happened)...think Velvets, Black Sabbath, Zeppelin...so The Doors were actually a bit ahead of the game.

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That's a good point about that regionalism that once existed in music. Obviously there were exceptions but many groups from the same region shared characteristics that made their music similar in some ways.

As far as the Doors' popularity today I do vividly recall that they got a pretty big surge in 1991 when the movie was released. I was only 11 and still neck deep in Zeppelin and Sabbath and it was a few years later before I heard a Doors album but many of my friends became big fans at that time. I kind of thought that the new film (When You're Strange) would have a similar impact but I guess it's on a smaller scale than the 1991 film.

Time is always at a premium but I may have to dig out the box set and give it a few more spins. I'm fairly familiar with the self-titled debut album but I haven't heard the rest of them too many times.

rialb said:

Gunsnhalen said:

But it was the second album which contained the absolute masterpiece of Take Another Little Piece of My Heart, Summertime, I Need A Man To love, Summertime, Ball & Chain as well as Turtle blues.

You must really like this particular song.

I've got the box set of the Doors' albums but I don't really listen to it too much. They certainly had a distinct sound, probably due to Ray Manzarek's keyboards, and I have a lot of respect for them but their music doesn't really speak to me.

I've got a few of Janis' albums but again I don't really listen to them very often. Obviously she was a singular talent and I do like some of her stuff but like the Doors I never really connected to her music.

Of the three I am a much bigger fan of Jimi than the other two but I am by no means a huge fan. For the longest time I only had his first three albums but just this week I picked up Band of Gypsys, Blues, First Rays of the New Rising Sun, BBC Sessions and Valleys of Neptune. I haven't had a chance to listen to them yet but I am planning to over the weekend. I agree that Are You Experienced is a phenomenal debut, I'm not sure if it is the best ever but it is a corker.

This seems like as good a place to ask as any, does anyone know if South Saturn Delta is going to be reissued? I would have picked it up with the others but I think I'll wait and see if it gets a bonus dvd before I buy it.

Glad you got my joke there hehehe one of my favorites gives me chills, I totally respect your opinion. I dig all there music and it all speak's to me, but i see you at least respect as musicians which is good=].

Jimi is my favorite if the 3 i pick up all the work and post albums he had, as for SSD i have not heard any news on it as of late

brooksie said:

rialb said:

You must really like this particular song.

I've got the box set of the Doors' albums but I don't really listen to it too much. They certainly had a distinct sound, probably due to Ray Manzarek's keyboards, and I have a lot of respect for them but their music doesn't really speak to me.

I've got a few of Janis' albums but again I don't really listen to them very often. Obviously she was a singular talent and I do like some of her stuff but like the Doors I never really connected to her music.

Of the three I am a much bigger fan of Jimi than the other two but I am by no means a huge fan. For the longest time I only had his first three albums but just this week I picked up Band of Gypsys, Blues, First Rays of the New Rising Sun, BBC Sessions and Valleys of Neptune. I haven't had a chance to listen to them yet but I am planning to over the weekend. I agree that Are You Experienced is a phenomenal debut, I'm not sure if it is the best ever but it is a corker.

This seems like as good a place to ask as any, does anyone know if South Saturn Delta is going to be reissued? I would have picked it up with the others but I think I'll wait and see if it gets a bonus dvd before I buy it.

It's interesting that you say this about The Doors rialb because I believe this is true for many later people that discover their music. They seem to be far less popular overall and mostly appeal to certain subcultures like alternative, goth, emo, hipster, etc.. LOL...the Keraouc/Verlaine/Burroughs/Rimbaud crowd, if you will.

My theory on that is that The Doors took a very diff path than most late 60s group and were from a place off the beaten path as well. The Doors were much darker and less hippy vibe than most groups from their era and their sound/message was more NYC than LA. In many ways, I think of them w/ The Velvet Underground more than Janis, Wavey Gravy, Frank Zappa, and Country Joe.

Music was alot more local back then. It usually represented the sound and culture of the artist's chosen home community. Think of the Beatles and the Northern UK groups or The Who/Stones/Cream (London based). This was also true of US music back then and the Doors kind of defy this regionalism a bit. They are more difficult to place and label.

The funny thing is that LA was mostly off the beaten path back then musically, so their groups (think Love) seemed to feel even freer to experiement than Northern Cal based folks (Janis, Country Joe, even Frank Zappa had a certain hippy-esque vibe) or NYC/Midwestern folks who shared a somewhat similar sound and ethos (think Velvets, The Stooges, MC5, etc). It wasn't until the very end of the 60s that darker sounds to started come into popularity (tho the 70s it when it really happened)...think Velvets, Black Sabbath, Zeppelin...so The Doors were actually a bit ahead of the game.

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I am glad someone else share's a love for Zappa to , and yes i would link Zappa & The Velvet Underground with The Door's. Jim was a spiritual and rather strange person in general and it came out in the music and i personally love that. They have a sound like no one else's it's that dark, eerie keyboard mixed with Jim's vocals

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FpwgUXWrEY

Ow Jimi

Ow and btw I didn't mention at first but The Door's self titled is my favorite by them with L.A Woman second

Out here in the perimeter there are no stars...out here we is Stoned Immaculate...

1. The Doors

2. Strange Days

3. LA Woman

4. Waiting For The Sun

5. The Soft Parade

6. Morrison Hotel

Special thanks to my hippie chick Vanessa who introduced me to the Doors (and a few other things )...sophomore year, spring 1990.

I in turn introduced her to Prince...she called me "the best kisser I ever kissed."

We spent many nights listening to Jim and the Boys...