Chuck D.'s Open Letter

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Ace said:

TonyVanDam said:

The root word is Zion. The suffix is "ism".

And "Zionism", to you, means...?

Before I can even begin to tell you what it means to me, I need to find out what it is suppose to be.

First, I have to use Answers.com to figure it out.

Zion --

1. The historic land of Israel as a symbol of the Jewish people.
2. The Jewish people; Israel.
A place or religious community regarded as sacredly devoted to God.
An idealized, harmonious community; utopia.

-ism -- Suffix meaning a state, process or condition.

Second, I can now put the words "Zion" & "ism" together myself to explain the REAL definition of the word "Zionism".

Zionism -- The state, process, and/or condition of a harmonious community.

However, I fully aware that THIS^ might be unacceptable for some orgers. So now I'll just show the definition as it is given by Answers.com:

Zionism -- A Jewish movement that arose in the late 19th century in response to growing anti-Semitism and sought to reestablish a Jewish homeland in Palestine. Modern Zionism is concerned with the support and development of the state of Israel.

...and by Wikipedia:

(Hebrew: ציונות‎, Tsiyonut) is primarily a nationalist^[1] or national liberation^[2]Jewish political movement that, in its broadest sense, has supported the self-determination of the Jewish people in a sovereign Jewish national homeland.^[3]

...and by Citizendium:

In general terms, Zionism is the belief in a historical right to a homeland for the Jewish people in Israel.

With all of THAT^ said Ace, you want to know what exactly does Zionism means to me. To be dead honest, not a damn thing! neutral

http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/index.cfm

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Reply #31 posted 01/06/11 7:27pm

TonyVanDam said:

With all of THAT^ said Ace, you want to know what exactly does Zionism means to me. To be dead honest, not a damn thing!

At least you're honest. lol

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Reply #32 posted 01/06/11 7:33pm

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Ace said:

And what would you say he meant by "Still, they got me like Jesus!"?

Still waiting on your definition of Zionism. Regardless of what that is, though, try this on for size:

Why do you say the KKK are racist? Because they dare to say publicly or privately how some blacks, Jews, etc. "treated" them.

"Nobody wins unless everybody wins."

Chuck meant exactly what HE felt at that moment in time, NOT how other people choose to intepret it.

2nd verse in it entirely:

Subordinate terror
Kickin' off an era
Cold deliverin' pain
My 98 was 87 on a record yo
So now I go Bronco

Crucifixion ain't no fiction
So called chosen frozen
Apology made to who ever pleases
Still they got me like Jesus
I rather sing, bring, think reminisce
'Bout a brother while I'm in sync
Every brother ain't a brother cause a color
Just as well could be undercover
Backstabbed, grabbed a flag
From the back of the lab
Told a Rab get off the rag
Sad to say I got sold down the river
Still some quiver when I deliver
Never to say I never know or had a clue
Word was heard, plus hard on the boulevard
Lies, scandalizin', basin'
Traits of hate who's celebratin' wit satan?
I rope a dope the evil with righteous
Bobbin' and weavin' and let the good get even
C'mon down
And welcome to the Terrordome.

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Reply #33 posted 01/06/11 7:55pm

TonyVanDam said:

Ace said:

And what would you say he meant by "Still, they got me like Jesus!"?

Still waiting on your definition of Zionism. Regardless of what that is, though, try this on for size:

Why do you say the KKK are racist? Because they dare to say publicly or privately how some blacks, Jews, etc. "treated" them.

"Nobody wins unless everybody wins."

Chuck meant exactly what HE felt at that moment in time, NOT how other people choose to intepret it.

2nd verse in it entirely:

Subordinate terror
Kickin' off an era
Cold deliverin' pain
My 98 was 87 on a record yo
So now I go Bronco

Crucifixion ain't no fiction
So called chosen frozen
Apology made to who ever pleases
Still they got me like Jesus
I rather sing, bring, think reminisce
'Bout a brother while I'm in sync
Every brother ain't a brother cause a color
Just as well could be undercover
Backstabbed, grabbed a flag
From the back of the lab
Told a Rab get off the rag
Sad to say I got sold down the river
Still some quiver when I deliver
Never to say I never know or had a clue
Word was heard, plus hard on the boulevard
Lies, scandalizin', basin'
Traits of hate who's celebratin' wit satan?
I rope a dope the evil with righteous
Bobbin' and weavin' and let the good get even
C'mon down
And welcome to the Terrordome.

So, at that moment in time, he felt like perpetuating an anti-Semitic myth?

Which is it? Are you for bigotry or against it? You can't cherry-pick your morality.

Fear of a Jewish planet, baby. Fear.

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Reply #34 posted 01/06/11 8:24pm

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Ace said:

TonyVanDam said:

Chuck meant exactly what HE felt at that moment in time, NOT how other people choose to intepret it.

2nd verse in it entirely:

Subordinate terror
Kickin' off an era
Cold deliverin' pain
My 98 was 87 on a record yo
So now I go Bronco

Crucifixion ain't no fiction
So called chosen frozen
Apology made to who ever pleases
Still they got me like Jesus
I rather sing, bring, think reminisce
'Bout a brother while I'm in sync
Every brother ain't a brother cause a color
Just as well could be undercover
Backstabbed, grabbed a flag
From the back of the lab
Told a Rab get off the rag
Sad to say I got sold down the river
Still some quiver when I deliver
Never to say I never know or had a clue
Word was heard, plus hard on the boulevard
Lies, scandalizin', basin'
Traits of hate who's celebratin' wit satan?
I rope a dope the evil with righteous
Bobbin' and weavin' and let the good get even
C'mon down
And welcome to the Terrordome.

So, at that moment in time, he felt like perpetuating an anti-Semitic myth?

Which is it? Are you for bigotry or against it? You can't cherry-pick your morality.

Fear of a Jewish planet, baby. Fear.

I'm against bigotry, without question. I'm just not convince that Chuck D is the villain that you think he is. His international fanbase wouldn't even exist if that was the case.

And BTW, Fear Of A Jewish Planet might be a totally badass album title for "Weird Al" Yankovic. Seriously!

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Reply #35 posted 01/06/11 9:22pm

TonyVanDam said:

Ace said:

So, at that moment in time, he felt like perpetuating an anti-Semitic myth?

Which is it? Are you for bigotry or against it? You can't cherry-pick your morality.

Fear of a Jewish planet, baby. Fear.

I'm against bigotry, without question. I'm just not convince that Chuck D is the villain that you think he is. His international fanbase wouldn't even exist if that was the case.

I don't think he's "a villain", I just think he's a confused man.

And surely you realize that you can have an international fanbase and be a bigot, right?

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Reply #36 posted 01/06/11 9:26pm

Sdldawn	I still laugh when I hear undisputed.
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Reply #37 posted 01/06/11 9:28pm

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Ace said:

TonyVanDam said:

I'm against bigotry, without question. I'm just not convince that Chuck D is the villain that you think he is. His international fanbase wouldn't even exist if that was the case.

I don't think he's "a villain", I just think he's a confused man.

And surely you realize that you can have an international fanbase and be a bigot, right?

You don't get it. If Chuck was a bigot, he wouldn't even have fans at all. His fans of all racial backgrounds understands him better than you do.

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Reply #38 posted 01/06/11 9:36pm

TonyVanDam said:

Ace said:

I don't think he's "a villain", I just think he's a confused man.

And surely you realize that you can have an international fanbase and be a bigot, right?

You don't get it. If Chuck was a bigot, he wouldn't even have fans at all. His fans of all racial backgrounds understands him better than you do.

Uh, does Ann Coulter have fans?

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Reply #39 posted 01/06/11 9:45pm

Timmy84	Sdldawn said: I still laugh when I hear undisputed. I never understood why Prince and Chuck thought that mixture would be good lol
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Reply #40 posted 01/07/11 1:39am

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Ace said:

TonyVanDam said:

You don't get it. If Chuck was a bigot, he wouldn't even have fans at all. His fans of all racial backgrounds understands him better than you do.

Uh, does Ann Coulter have fans?

Sad but true. And she even dating Jimmie Walker. disbelief lol

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Reply #41 posted 01/07/11 8:00pm

Jboogiee

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I love Chuck D.

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Reply #42 posted 01/07/11 8:16pm

babynoz	Timmy84 said: Sdldawn said: I still laugh when I hear undisputed. I never understood why Prince and Chuck thought that mixture would be good lol What's wrong with Undisputed? Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #43 posted 01/07/11 9:32pm

Timmy84	babynoz said: Timmy84 said: I never understood why Prince and Chuck thought that mixture would be good lol What's wrong with Undisputed? Oh nothing... Just didn't need Chuck.
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Reply #44 posted 01/08/11 3:37pm

Sdldawn	Timmy84 said: babynoz said: What's wrong with Undisputed? Oh nothing... Just didn't need Chuck. It didn't need a lot of things. specifically "NPG, get rowdy".. ruined.
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Reply #45 posted 01/08/11 9:08pm

Timmy84	Sdldawn said: Timmy84 said: Oh nothing... Just didn't need Chuck. It didn't need a lot of things. specifically "NPG, get rowdy".. ruined.
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Reply #46 posted 01/08/11 10:10pm

errant

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agree with his sentiment, but the following is also true, unfortunately:

sosgemini said:

1) This letter would feel more sincere if your ass didn't use half of it to pimp your latest goings ons

"does my cock look fat in these jeans?"

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Reply #47 posted 01/08/11 10:10pm

errant

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babynoz said:

Timmy84 said:

I never understood why Prince and Chuck thought that mixture would be good lol

What's wrong with Undisputed?

it's terrible.

"does my cock look fat in these jeans?"

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Reply #48 posted 01/12/11 3:05pm

Dreamer2

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RenHoek said:

Love it, love it, love it!!

When I lived in Germany there were some straight dope-ass rappers on the mic!! Absolute Beginner was a constant favorite!!

I can't even imagine what the scene is like now...

Chuck D is telling it like it is ....as always....it's gonna hurt but it's the truth... biggrin

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