nursev said:

Just remembering Michael this morning and took a good listen to the songs This Is It and Hold My Hand and I have really grown to love both songs Amazing how clear and beautiful his voice still was on This Is It-I can't believe he has been gone this long already

You realize that the This Is It song was recorded in 84. Listen to Best Of Joy if you want a 2009 recording.

mimi07 said:

Bodyguard: Jackson doc said to put vials in bag

By LINDA DEUTSCH AP Special Correspondent J

an. 5, 2011, 4:05PM

LOS ANGELES — As Michael Jackson's lifeless body lay on a bed in his palatial mansion, a bodyguard obeyed a frantic doctor's instructions to bag up medicine bottles and intravenous bags and shield the Jackson children from seeing their father — all before being told to call 911, court testimony revealed Wednesday.

Alberto Alvarez said he was the first security guard to reach Jackson's room after word came that something was wrong. He described a shocking scene.

The King of Pop was on his bed connected to an IV tube and a urinary catheter. His eyes and mouth were open, and Dr. Conrad Murray was leaning over him doing one-handed chest compressions to try to revive him.

Alvarez said he was "frozen" at the sight.

"I said, 'Dr. Murray, what happened?' And he said, 'He had a reaction. He had a bad reaction,'" Alvarez recalled.

The testimony came during a preliminary hearing to determine if Murray, the singer's personal physician, will be tried on a charge of involuntary manslaughter.

Authorities contend Murray gave Jackson a lethal dose of the powerful anesthetic propofol and other sedatives in the bedroom of his rented mansion before he died on June 25, 2009.

Deputy District Attorney David Walgren said in his opening statement that Jackson was already dead when Murray summoned help and tried to conceal his administering of propofol to the pop star, ordering the bodyguard to collect items before paramedics were called.

Murray was providing Jackson propofol roughly six times a week since being hired as the singer's personal physician in May 2009, as Jackson prepared for a series of comeback concerts, Walgren said.

On the witness stand, Alvarez recalled Jackson's children Paris and Prince walking into the room during the effort to revive their father.

"Paris screamed, 'Daddy!' and she started to cry. Dr. Murray said, 'Get them out. Don't let them see him like this,'" the bodyguard said.

Alvarez's voice choked as he described Paris crying and he took a moment to compose himself.

"I said, 'children, don't worry, we'll take care of this.' And I escorted them out and left the door ajar," Alvarez said.

In the courtroom audience, Jackson's mother, Katherine, dabbed at her eyes during the most detailed public account yet of events surrounding the death of her son. She came to court with her husband, Joe, and children Randy, Janet and LaToya. They made no eye contact with Murray across the courtroom.

They heard Alvarez testify that he helped Murray bag the medicine and saw an unidentified "white milky substance" in the bottom of an intravenous bag.

"He just grabbed a handful of bottles, or vials, and he instructed me to put them in a bag," Alvarez testified, adding Murray also told him to place an intravenous bag into another sack.

"Is it true that 911 had not been called yet?" Walgren asked.

"That's true," Alvarez replied.

After collecting everything and bagging it, Alvarez said, Murray told him to call 911. The prosecutor then played a recording of the call.

Alvarez was heard on the tape telling the 911 operator that Jackson's private doctor was there, and she responded that he would be "the higher authority."

When the operator said to transfer Jackson to the floor, Alvarez grabbed Jackson's legs and Murray grabbed his upper body. He said at that point he noticed the IV in Jackson's leg that had to be removed. Alvarez also saw that Jackson had the urinary catheter.

Alvarez said Murray then asked him to give Jackson chest compression, while Murray did mouth-to-mouth resuscitation.

Murray said, "'You know this is the first time I give mouth-to-mouth but I have to do it because he's my friend,'" Alvarez recalled.

"Did it appear he was breathing," Walgren asked.

"No sir," Alvarez said.

"His eyes and mouth were open?" the prosecutor asked.

"Yes," the witness said.

"Did he seem to be alive or dead?" Walgren asked.

"Dead, sir," Alvarez said.

In his opening statement Tuesday, Walgren said Murray had waited as long as 21 minutes before paramedics were called and that Jackson had died before help was summoned.

The testimony could support the prosecutors' argument that Murray's actions demonstrated "an extreme deviation from the standard of care" by administering propofol without the proper equipment, and also concealing it and botching efforts to resuscitate the singer.

Murray, a Houston cardiologist, has pleaded not guilty, and his attorneys have contended he did not give Jackson anything that should have killed the singer.

Defense lawyers did not deliver an opening statement at the hearing. Murray could face up to four years in prison if convicted.

http://www.chron.com/disp...67320.html

I am sitting in this chair right now, not knowing if I should be pissed or cry. Also, I am confused because the press had told us that day he was in a coma until he died, but all along, he was dead in that bed. This is one baffling and depressing case

angel345 said:

mimi07 said:

Bodyguard: Jackson doc said to put vials in bag

By LINDA DEUTSCH AP Special Correspondent J

an. 5, 2011, 4:05PM

LOS ANGELES — As Michael Jackson's lifeless body lay on a bed in his palatial mansion, a bodyguard obeyed a frantic doctor's instructions to bag up medicine bottles and intravenous bags and shield the Jackson children from seeing their father — all before being told to call 911, court testimony revealed Wednesday.

Alberto Alvarez said he was the first security guard to reach Jackson's room after word came that something was wrong. He described a shocking scene.

The King of Pop was on his bed connected to an IV tube and a urinary catheter. His eyes and mouth were open, and Dr. Conrad Murray was leaning over him doing one-handed chest compressions to try to revive him.

Alvarez said he was "frozen" at the sight.

"I said, 'Dr. Murray, what happened?' And he said, 'He had a reaction. He had a bad reaction,'" Alvarez recalled.

The testimony came during a preliminary hearing to determine if Murray, the singer's personal physician, will be tried on a charge of involuntary manslaughter.

Authorities contend Murray gave Jackson a lethal dose of the powerful anesthetic propofol and other sedatives in the bedroom of his rented mansion before he died on June 25, 2009.

Deputy District Attorney David Walgren said in his opening statement that Jackson was already dead when Murray summoned help and tried to conceal his administering of propofol to the pop star, ordering the bodyguard to collect items before paramedics were called.

Murray was providing Jackson propofol roughly six times a week since being hired as the singer's personal physician in May 2009, as Jackson prepared for a series of comeback concerts, Walgren said.

On the witness stand, Alvarez recalled Jackson's children Paris and Prince walking into the room during the effort to revive their father.

"Paris screamed, 'Daddy!' and she started to cry. Dr. Murray said, 'Get them out. Don't let them see him like this,'" the bodyguard said.

Alvarez's voice choked as he described Paris crying and he took a moment to compose himself.

"I said, 'children, don't worry, we'll take care of this.' And I escorted them out and left the door ajar," Alvarez said.

In the courtroom audience, Jackson's mother, Katherine, dabbed at her eyes during the most detailed public account yet of events surrounding the death of her son. She came to court with her husband, Joe, and children Randy, Janet and LaToya. They made no eye contact with Murray across the courtroom.

They heard Alvarez testify that he helped Murray bag the medicine and saw an unidentified "white milky substance" in the bottom of an intravenous bag.

"He just grabbed a handful of bottles, or vials, and he instructed me to put them in a bag," Alvarez testified, adding Murray also told him to place an intravenous bag into another sack.

"Is it true that 911 had not been called yet?" Walgren asked.

"That's true," Alvarez replied.

After collecting everything and bagging it, Alvarez said, Murray told him to call 911. The prosecutor then played a recording of the call.

Alvarez was heard on the tape telling the 911 operator that Jackson's private doctor was there, and she responded that he would be "the higher authority."

When the operator said to transfer Jackson to the floor, Alvarez grabbed Jackson's legs and Murray grabbed his upper body. He said at that point he noticed the IV in Jackson's leg that had to be removed. Alvarez also saw that Jackson had the urinary catheter.

Alvarez said Murray then asked him to give Jackson chest compression, while Murray did mouth-to-mouth resuscitation.

Murray said, "'You know this is the first time I give mouth-to-mouth but I have to do it because he's my friend,'" Alvarez recalled.

"Did it appear he was breathing," Walgren asked.

"No sir," Alvarez said.

"His eyes and mouth were open?" the prosecutor asked.

"Yes," the witness said.

"Did he seem to be alive or dead?" Walgren asked.

"Dead, sir," Alvarez said.

In his opening statement Tuesday, Walgren said Murray had waited as long as 21 minutes before paramedics were called and that Jackson had died before help was summoned.

The testimony could support the prosecutors' argument that Murray's actions demonstrated "an extreme deviation from the standard of care" by administering propofol without the proper equipment, and also concealing it and botching efforts to resuscitate the singer.

Murray, a Houston cardiologist, has pleaded not guilty, and his attorneys have contended he did not give Jackson anything that should have killed the singer.

Defense lawyers did not deliver an opening statement at the hearing. Murray could face up to four years in prison if convicted.

http://www.chron.com/disp...67320.html

I am sitting in this chair right now, not knowing if I should be pissed or cry. Also, I am confused because the press had told us that day he was in a coma until he died, but all along, he was dead in that bed. This is one baffling and depressing case

Oh my poor Michael......

Screw the justice system....let's form a lynch mob and get'im.

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SherryJackson said:

angel345 said:

I am sitting in this chair right now, not knowing if I should be pissed or cry. Also, I am confused because the press had told us that day he was in a coma until he died, but all along, he was dead in that bed. This is one baffling and depressing case

Oh my poor Michael......

Screw the justice system....let's form a lynch mob and get'im.

[Edited 1/6/11 17:08pm]

People reap what they sown, anyway.

angel345 said:

SherryJackson said:

Oh my poor Michael......

Screw the justice system....let's form a lynch mob and get'im.

[Edited 1/6/11 17:08pm]

People reap what they sown, anyway.

That's why i'm hoping with the right to bare arms somebody in America must bring this all to an end and shoot that motherfucker. Just shoot his lying, murdering, scum ass dead. Or someone kill him in jail. As long as it isn't a dickhead MJ impersonator outside court that does the deed, I don't care.

I will leap out of my chair, punching the air on that day. Oh forgive me, but i will laugh so hard.

[Edited 1/6/11 17:57pm]

Marrk said:

angel345 said:

People reap what they sown, anyway.

That's why i'm hoping with the right to bare arms somebody in America must bring this all to an end and shoot that motherfucker. Just shoot his lying, murdering, scum ass dead. Or someone kill him in jail. As long as it isn't a dickhead MJ impersonator outside court that does the deed, I don't care.

I will leap out of my chair, punching the air on that day. Oh forgive me, but i will laugh so hard.

[Edited 1/6/11 17:57pm]

I'd be satisfied if a fat convict named Bubba takes him for his bride and repeatedly sodomizes him for four years.

^ I told myself that if there are fans crazy enough to commit suicide over Michael's death, then Murray isnt going to last long going through life without some heat over being the man who killed Michael Jackson. I mean, he will forever be known in history as the man who took away the life of the Greatest Entertainer in the World.

You know what gets me, the press (apart from TMZ) has barely done any coverage on this trial. Funny, when the world was quick to believe that Michael died as a drug addict, the "possible causes" of his death was all over the news and people were obsessing about another celebrity succumbing to a drug-related death. Even LMP was all "I knew he would go this way.." And when it was known that he died of a negligent doctor.... zip. Nothing. The general public to this day still thinks he died by overdosing (himself) as oppose to the hands of a careless doctor.

This gif just killed me!

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Geraldine Hughes' report on Conrad Murray Hearing for Jan. 5, 2011. She calls for a federal investigation. I dont know much about this girl, but she feels very passionate here.

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PYTDee said:

This gif just killed me!

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I needed something to make me smile today

PYTDee said:

This gif just killed me!

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I'm savin' this!

PYTDee said:

This gif just killed me!

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MyLuv229 said:

You know what gets me, the press (apart from TMZ) has barely done any coverage on this trial. Funny, when the world was quick to believe that Michael died as a drug addict, the "possible causes" of his death was all over the news and people were obsessing about another celebrity succumbing to a drug-related death. Even LMP was all "I knew he would go this way.." And when it was known that he died of a negligent doctor.... zip. Nothing. The general public to this day still thinks he died by overdosing (himself) as oppose to the hands of a careless doctor.

I have been saying the same thing myself! the coverage on this has been so sporadic it is'nt even funny. When you see not even Nancy Grace focusing on this, that tells you alot! But rewind to '03 - '05 when it was MJ's ass being prosecuted, they were all over that damn trial! The news for them was waiting to see if MJ would go to prison (I even remember then filming the prison and inside the cell..god!). This time its not MJ that will be facing any prison time so what do they care.

Dr. Murray fucked up big time and he should be held responsible and I better not hear about any plea deals.

MyLuv229 said:

You know what gets me, the press (apart from TMZ) has barely done any coverage on this trial. Funny, when the world was quick to believe that Michael died as a drug addict, the "possible causes" of his death was all over the news and people were obsessing about another celebrity succumbing to a drug-related death. Even LMP was all "I knew he would go this way.." And when it was known that he died of a negligent doctor.... zip. Nothing. The general public to this day still thinks he died by overdosing (himself) as oppose to the hands of a careless doctor.

I couldnt agree with you more. So sad how the media seems to cherry pick whats newsworthy. My local news never mentioned the preliminary trial at all and my local newspapter is only a small article on page 10.

Unbelieveable.

Someone is uploading the New Orleans show from the Destiny Tour

PYTDee said:

This gif just killed me!

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Is there a demo to "Things I Do For You"? Were they working on both of these demos?

ReggaeQueen said:

MyLuv229 said:

You know what gets me, the press (apart from TMZ) has barely done any coverage on this trial. Funny, when the world was quick to believe that Michael died as a drug addict, the "possible causes" of his death was all over the news and people were obsessing about another celebrity succumbing to a drug-related death. Even LMP was all "I knew he would go this way.." And when it was known that he died of a negligent doctor.... zip. Nothing. The general public to this day still thinks he died by overdosing (himself) as oppose to the hands of a careless doctor.

I have been saying the same thing myself! the coverage on this has been so sporadic it is'nt even funny. When you see not even Nancy Grace focusing on this, that tells you alot! But rewind to '03 - '05 when it was MJ's ass being prosecuted, they were all over that damn trial! The news for them was waiting to see if MJ would go to prison (I even remember then filming the prison and inside the cell..god!). This time its not MJ that will be facing any prison time so what do they care.

Dr. Murray fucked up big time and he should be held responsible and I better not hear about any plea deals.

I´ve just read some comments on the internet under an article about his death. ONe of them wrote that he wouldn´t wanna be a physician of any person like MJ in the first place, that that will autamatically put you in a trouble. I hate people´s ignorance and idiocy. Whatever goes wrong in MJ´s case has always gotta be his fault cuase obviously he´s the fucked up individual.

PYTDee said:

This gif just killed me!

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There's a current thread in Music and More I would LOVE to post this in.

WaterInYourBath said:

PYTDee said:

This gif just killed me!

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There's a current thread in Music and More I would LOVE to post this in.

Which is it?

Regardless...DO IT! I support this motion.

SherryJackson said:

WaterInYourBath said:

There's a current thread in Music and More I would LOVE to post this in.

Which is it?

Regardless...DO IT! I support this motion.

It's the "prince's dancing" one. I think that thread is dead now though. I wish I had this gif a few days ago, lol.

MyLuv229 said:

You know what gets me, the press (apart from TMZ) has barely done any coverage on this trial. Funny, when the world was quick to believe that Michael died as a drug addict, the "possible causes" of his death was all over the news and people were obsessing about another celebrity succumbing to a drug-related death. Even LMP was all "I knew he would go this way.." And when it was known that he died of a negligent doctor.... zip. Nothing. The general public to this day still thinks he died by overdosing (himself) as oppose to the hands of a careless doctor.

Not necessarily... All the Internet news sites cover this..

That is all that matters anymore.. I very seldom watch tv.

sag10 said:

SMOKING GUN IN MICHAEL JACKSON'S DEATH A girlfriend of Dr. Conrad Murray's at the time of Michael Jackson's death just established for prosecutors Murray waited around 25 minutes after noticing MJ was lifeless before calling 911. Sade Anding -- who was in Houston the day MJ died -- testified she received a call from Murray at around 12:30 PM. It's unclear if she was referring to Pacific or Central time. But there is only one call in the phone records from Murray to Sade, and that's at 11:51 AM PT. Sade says Murray was asking her how she was doing and she started talking about her day. She spoke for a few minutes and realized Murray wasn't on the phone anymore. Sade then said she heard commotion, as if the phone was in his pocket, and heard "coughing and voices." Sade estimates the entire call lasted 5 minutes. The 911 call wasn't made until 12:21 PM PT, which means -- if Murray did indeed first realize MJ was in distress at around 11:55 AM PT -- there was a long delay in sounding the alarm.

My God....

Oh Michael....no pain where you are now, my angel....

It's very hard to hear the details of exactly what happened - it just makes you wish you could turn back time and be there to warn MJ of what would happen, save him...

For someone so immensely talented who brought so much joy and was filled with so much love to go out like that....it just hurts the heart to no end.

The only bright side is that he's not suffering anymore.

Waitress says she was on phone with Murray the day Jackson died

mimi07 said:

Waitress says she was on phone with Murray the day Jackson died

http://www.laindependent....95254.html

A Houston cocktail waitress testified Friday that she was on the phone with Michael Jackson's personal physician the day the singer died, apparently at the time the pop superstar was found unresponsive in his rented Holmby Hills estate.

Prosecutors contend that Dr. Conrad Murray gave Jackson a powerful sedative called propofol to help him sleep, then failed to properly monitor him — instead making a series of telephone calls before discovering the 50-year- old singer had stopped breathing.

Testifying at a hearing to determine if Murray, 57, should stand trial on an involuntary manslaughter charge, Sade Anding said she met the doctor while working at a Texas steakhouse in February 2009, and they exchanged phone numbers.

Anding said she was in Houston when she received a phone call from Murray on June 25, 2009 — the day Jackson died.

"He told me that he was doing well,'' she said. "I cut him off and I started talking.''

About five or 10 minutes into the conversation, however, she realized Murray wasn't on the phone anymore, Anding testified.

"I heard a commotion ... coughing, mumbling of voices,'' she said, adding that she was unsure if the mumbling was coming from Murray.

Anding said she stayed on the phone for about five minutes, saying it was unusual for Murray to stop responding.

"I just remember saying, 'Hello? Hello? Hello? Are you there? Are you there? Are you there?''' she said.

Anding said she eventually hung up the phone and tried to call Murray back, and tried sending him text messages, but he never responded.

Anding said she didn't speak to Murray again until after she was contacted by Los Angeles police detectives. She said after police contacted her, she called Murray. Murray apologized that she had been put in that situation, and advised her to call his lawyer and have him present if she met with the police, Anding said.

On the stand Thursday and Friday, Los Angeles police Detective Dan Myers testified that Murray — who had two cellular phones in his name — had made or received 11 calls totaling just under 90 minutes between 7:01 a.m. and 11:51 a.m. June 25, 2009. Prosecutors contend that Murray, who is charged with involuntary manslaughter in connection with Jackson's death, administered propofol to Jackson at the singer's rented home between 10:40 and 11 a.m.

Myers said the doctor's phone calls that morning included a 32-minute call to his practice in Las Vegas. They also included an 11-minute call made just before the doctor called Jackson's personal assistant at 12:12 p.m. to report that the singer had a "bad reaction,'' according to cellular phone records presented by Myers.

The calls also included one at 1:08 p.m. — when other witnesses testified Murray was making a phone call from the ambulance containing Jackson - - to the mother of Murray's child, Myers said.

Prosecutors contend that Murray had "abandoned his patient'' after administering the propofol. An emergency room doctor at Ronald Reagan UCLA Medical Center — where Jackson was pronounced dead — testified Thursday that propofol is not generally used outside of hospitals, and patients who are given the medication are usually connected to heart monitors.

Jackson died of acute propofol intoxication.

Prosecutors contend that Murray failed to tell paramedics or doctors that he had administered propofol to the singer and took steps that were an "extreme deviation from the standard of care.'' They also contend Murray and security personnel collected drug vials and other materials from the room before calling 911.

Two emergency room doctors from Ronald Reagan UCLA Medical Center testified Thursday that Murray never told them he had given the pop superstar a powerful sedative that eventually killed

him.

Dr. Richelle Cooper testified that the singer "had no signs of life'' when he was brought to the hospital.

She said she asked Murray what medications Jackson was on, and Murray said only the anxiety medication lorazepam. Cooper said Murray did not say he had given Jackson propofol.

Dr. Thao Nguyen, a cardiology fellow at UCLA, testified that she was introduced to Murray at the hospital and asked him what had happened. Murray told Nguyen that Jackson — who had been rehearsing for a series of concerts in London — was very tired but had difficulty sleeping and required some medications to help him rest, she said.

The doctor said she asked Murray what medications Jackson was given, and Murray mentioned only lorazepam.

Doctors worked on Jackson from the time the ambulance arrived at 1:13 p.m. until 2:26 p.m., when the singer was pronounced dead, Nguyen said.

The preliminary hearing, which began Tuesday, is expected to last seven to eight days and include between 20 and 30 witnesses to be called by the prosecution. Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Michael Pastor will then decide whether there is enough evidence for Murray to stand trial on the involuntary manslaughter charge, which could land him in prison for four years.

According to court papers, Murray has admitted giving Jackson propofol, but the doctor insists he did not give anywhere near the amount that would have caused his death. During a hearing last month, prosecutors indicated the defense was planning to argue that Jackson injected himself with more of the drug, essentially killing himself.

Defense attorneys were not expected to call any witnesses during the preliminary hearing.

THAT IS IT! LET'S GET THAT MOTHERFUCKER!

The whole Murray Case is very suspicious. Too many inconsistancies and things which are not adding up.

And Michael Jackson was not some idiot, if he knew bad things were going on- he would take action to resolve it.

And I don't think Murray is a doctor in my opinion.

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