She didn't exactly bother trying to get them to sell here though. The promo extended to some posters on public transport and that was that. It with with Damita Jo or 20 Y.O that were freshly released, and she came to Paris but did nothing to help herself as she was far more interested in going to catwalk shows.

She totally shot herself in the foot with Damita Jo, or at least the record company/management did. That could have been a big hit. Nipplegate was a laughing stock in Europe and she had a huge media profile with a lot of public sympathy. It went downhill when 'Just A Little While' was released with that godawful video. Practically any other track would have been better. I think she did like 1 week of promo for that song for the whole continent and then buggered off for good.

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SEANMAN said:

i dont hold much water in janet's press releases, but at the same time there is alot of contradictions from fans. how can you say she need to change things up but then turn around and get upset at the thought of her not dancing or doing the big production thing? im in janet's age range so i can totally understand if she decided to scale back on the dancing, she cant do that forever. there are ways she can still perform her classic songs without all the choreography, she can try new arrangements,get a solid band and actually perform the songs live. i would prefer her to drop a few of the #1's and perform some of the album cuts she's never done live. at this point in time i would rather see janet singing songs like my need,where are you now,this time,china love over RN,control,ect.

Ahhh...Janet...sister of a genius...

Sure would be nice to see her do something other than simulate oral sex or bondage...especially at her age...whoops I forgot...'cougars' are supposedly the 'in' thing these days.

35 years in the biz...perhaps strum a guitar? play a bit of keyboards?...surprise us by keeping her clothes on?...characteristic of an 'artist' supposedly, at last check was 'creativity'.

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February 7th is just around the corner so let's see what happens...

funkyandy said:

Ahhh...Janet...sister of a genius...

Sure would be nice to see her do something other than simulate oral sex or bondage...especially at her age...whoops I forgot...'cougars' are supposedly the 'in' thing these days.

35 years in the biz...perhaps strum a guitar? play a bit of keyboards?...surprise us by keeping her clothes on?...characteristic of an 'artist' supposedly, at last check was 'creativity'.

Been there done that...

The sarcasm in your post is hilarious. Janet is more than the "sister of a genius," kiddo.

Ellie said:

She didn't exactly bother trying to get them to sell here though. The promo extended to some posters on public transport and that was that. It with with Damita Jo or 20 Y.O that were freshly released, and she came to Paris but did nothing to help herself as she was far more interested in going to catwalk shows.

She totally shot herself in the foot with Damita Jo, or at least the record company/management did. That could have been a big hit. Nipplegate was a laughing stock in Europe and she had a huge media profile with a lot of public sympathy. It went downhill when 'Just A Little While' was released with that godawful video. Practically any other track would have been better. I think she did like 1 week of promo for that song for the whole continent and then buggered off for good.

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I often wonder what and who her management was at the time because they didn't really do a good job. I thought when that whole Nipplegate scandal happened that Janet would tour worldwide to promote the album but she didn't.

No way should she play an instrument on stage unless she can actually play. Otherwise it'd look like desperate for credibility Madonna strumming away on her 2 chords like a beginner.

SEANMAN said:

funkyandy said:

Ahhh...Janet...sister of a genius...

Sure would be nice to see her do something other than simulate oral sex or bondage...especially at her age...whoops I forgot...'cougars' are supposedly the 'in' thing these days.

35 years in the biz...perhaps strum a guitar? play a bit of keyboards?...surprise us by keeping her clothes on?...characteristic of an 'artist' supposedly, at last check was 'creativity'.

Been there done that...

The sarcasm in your post is hilarious. Janet is more than the "sister of a genius," kiddo.

Funny...it was exactly these 2 clips I was thinking off...such a virtuoso on those keys isn't she?

I didn't say she was 'less' than the 'sister of a genius', boyo.

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funkyandy said:

SEANMAN said:

Been there done that...

The sarcasm in your post is hilarious. Janet is more than the "sister of a genius," kiddo.

Funny...it was exactly these 2 clips I was thinking off...such a virtuoso on those keys isn't she?

I didn't say she was 'less' than the 'sister of a genius', boyo.

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Sure they were...

"Boyo"???

Seanman, I've had those two clips on my old VHS tapes, since the 80's...of course I know them inside out...this was when I actually liked Janet.

The 'boyo' was in response to your 'kiddo'...I apologise if I caused offence.

I'm...not that big a Janet fan now, to me she just degenerated into the cliche of using sex as 'musical entertainment' from 'The Velvet Rope' onwards that we see all too often in female artists...acting like that's all they have to offer...even as a straight guy it does nothing for me...showing my age, I guess.

Her modern stuff, just flashes I like now...for instance, 'So much Betta'.

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funkyandy said:

Seanman, I've had those two clips on my old VHS tapes, since the 80's...of course I know them inside out...this was when I actually liked Janet.

The 'boyo' was in response to your 'kiddo'...I apologise if I caused offence.

I'm...not that big a Janet fan now, to me she just degenerated into the cliche of using sex as 'musical entertainment' from 'The Velvet Rope' onwards that we see all too often in female artists...acting like that's all they have to offer...even as a straight guy it does nothing for me...showing my age, I guess.

Her modern stuff, just flashes I like now...for instance, 'So much Betta'.

I know that you were responding to "kiddo," but it was funny nonetheless.

I really hope she adds New York. It's times like these (when I'm actually making money) that I wish I was older during the 90s so I could watch her during her prime. I hate that I never saw her live before, and I'm sure she'll no longer do the RN, Janet and Velvet Rope type tours anymore.. but I guess what it comes down to is just experiencing one of your favorite artists in the same room and in the company of other fans.

Timmy84 said:

SEANMAN said:

You mean you've never seen Janet's MTV Icon special before?

Of course he didn't lol

Personally I take this Icon special anyday (sorry for going off topic but since that Icon video was posted...):

Okay, why is it that every other freaken MaddTV spoof is on youtube *but* the famous Rhythmless Nation skit? Errr...

Oh wait, that was In Living Color. Nevermind. LOL

Keeping on topic....

JANET JACKSON ADDS CITY TO HER INTERNATIONAL TOUR

Janet Jackson's largest ever world tour celebrating for the first time the Icon's 35 number ones hits in 35 global cities is going to Taipei. Fans submitted suggestions to www.janetjackson.com to have their city selected as a date on the JANET JACKSON Number Ones, Up Close and Personal tour. The Taipei performance will take place on Feb 18th at the Taipei Nangang Exhibition Center.

This tour will differ from her previous concert schedules in that she will perform music exclusively from her chart topping CD NUMBER ONES. There will also be a focus on venues that will allow Janet to be up close and personal in a much more intimate setting. This show is JANET more revealed, more intimate, and more personal than ever before. Don't look for special effects. Just look at Janet.

Tickets will go on sale January 8th on G-music tickets. For more ticketing information please reach Veryaspect and G-music tickets.

Janet has expressed her excitement for the upcoming performance in Taipei by stating,

"My fans have voted and I'm very excited to tell you that Taipei will be the next city of my Number Ones Up Close and Personal tour. This is my first concert ever in Taipei, and I can't wait to share the love and rock it out. There will be special changes in this show to honor the culture and beautiful people of Taiwan."

lowkey said:

i dont hold much water in janet's press releases, but at the same time there is alot of contradictions from fans. how can you say she need to change things up but then turn around and get upset at the thought of her not dancing or doing the big production thing? im in janet's age range so i can totally understand if she decided to scale back on the dancing, she cant do that forever. there are ways she can still perform her classic songs without all the choreography, she can try new arrangements,get a solid band and actually perform the songs live. i would prefer her to drop a few of the #1's and perform some of the album cuts she's never done live. at this point in time i would rather see janet singing songs like my need,where are you now,this time,china love over RN,control,ect.

Why wouldn't her fans be upset at the thought of her pacing the stage while lipping to pre-recorded vocals? AND on top of that the production is low-budget? Let's use our heads here. Janet is a PERFORMER that depends on her dancing and production to entertain. Take both away and what do you get? Basically, nothing. I'm really LMFAO at some of you thinking that Janet Jackson, possibly the best lip syncer in the history of entertainment - would do a whole show live in 2011. These days she doesn't even bother singing the ballads live. Even the ad-libs are lipped.

BTW, I assure you that all her fans know she's getting older and her stamina is declining. No one’s insisting she dance like she’s 20 years old again. But there are ways she can tweak her shows to where she's comfortable. Better yet hire a new upbeat choregrapher and creative director that will work around her flaws and NOT make her look like some stiff ass drag queen.

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trueiopian said:

lowkey said:

i dont hold much water in janet's press releases, but at the same time there is alot of contradictions from fans. how can you say she need to change things up but then turn around and get upset at the thought of her not dancing or doing the big production thing? im in janet's age range so i can totally understand if she decided to scale back on the dancing, she cant do that forever. there are ways she can still perform her classic songs without all the choreography, she can try new arrangements,get a solid band and actually perform the songs live. i would prefer her to drop a few of the #1's and perform some of the album cuts she's never done live. at this point in time i would rather see janet singing songs like my need,where are you now,this time,china love over RN,control,ect.

Why wouldn't her fans be upset at the thought of her pacing the stage while lipping to pre-recorded vocals? AND on top of that the production is low-budget? Let's use our heads here. Janet is a PERFORMER that depends on her dancing and production to entertain. Take both away and what do you get? Basically, nothing. I'm really LMFAO at some of you thinking that Janet Jackson, possibly the best lip syncer in the history of entertainment - would do a whole show live in 2011. These days she doesn't even bother singing the ballads live. Even the ad-libs are lipped.

BTW, I assure you that all her fans know she's getting older and her stamina is declining. No one’s insisting she dance like she’s 20 years old again. But there are ways she can tweak her shows to where she's comfortable. Better yet hire a new upbeat choregrapher and creative director that will work around her flaws and NOT make her look like some stiff ass drag queen.

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Why does everyone keep insisting that she lip-synchs her ballads? "Nothing" was clearly sang live on Idol last year, and on the RWU tour as well as that private show she gave last year, the ballads were obviously live.

SEANMAN said:

trueiopian said:

Why wouldn't her fans be upset at the thought of her pacing the stage while lipping to pre-recorded vocals? AND on top of that the production is low-budget? Let's use our heads here. Janet is a PERFORMER that depends on her dancing and production to entertain. Take both away and what do you get? Basically, nothing. I'm really LMFAO at some of you thinking that Janet Jackson, possibly the best lip syncer in the history of entertainment - would do a whole show live in 2011. These days she doesn't even bother singing the ballads live. Even the ad-libs are lipped.

BTW, I assure you that all her fans know she's getting older and her stamina is declining. No one’s insisting she dance like she’s 20 years old again. But there are ways she can tweak her shows to where she's comfortable. Better yet hire a new upbeat choregrapher and creative director that will work around her flaws and NOT make her look like some stiff ass drag queen.

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Why does everyone keep insisting that she lip-synchs her ballads? "Nothing" was clearly sang live on Idol last year, and on the RWU tour as well as that private show she gave last year, the ballads were obviously live.

Nothing on Idol wasn't live. Listen to the acapella version on YouTube. I thought it was live too but it turns out it wasn't. She used the same pre-recorded vocals from RWU tour for the private show.

trueiopian said:

SEANMAN said:

Why does everyone keep insisting that she lip-synchs her ballads? "Nothing" was clearly sang live on Idol last year, and on the RWU tour as well as that private show she gave last year, the ballads were obviously live.

Nothing on Idol wasn't live. Listen to the acapella version on YouTube. I thought it was live too but it turns out it wasn't. She used the same pre-recorded vocals from RWU tour for the private show.

Interesting.

trueiopian said:

lowkey said:

i dont hold much water in janet's press releases, but at the same time there is alot of contradictions from fans. how can you say she need to change things up but then turn around and get upset at the thought of her not dancing or doing the big production thing? im in janet's age range so i can totally understand if she decided to scale back on the dancing, she cant do that forever. there are ways she can still perform her classic songs without all the choreography, she can try new arrangements,get a solid band and actually perform the songs live. i would prefer her to drop a few of the #1's and perform some of the album cuts she's never done live. at this point in time i would rather see janet singing songs like my need,where are you now,this time,china love over RN,control,ect.

Why wouldn't her fans be upset at the thought of her pacing the stage while lipping to pre-recorded vocals? AND on top of that the production is low-budget? Let's use our heads here. Janet is a PERFORMER that depends on her dancing and production to entertain. Take both away and what do you get? Basically, nothing. I'm really LMFAO at some of you thinking that Janet Jackson, possibly the best lip syncer in the history of entertainment - would do a whole show live in 2011. These days she doesn't even bother singing the ballads live. Even the ad-libs are lipped.

BTW, I assure you that all her fans know she's getting older and her stamina is declining. No one’s insisting she dance like she’s 20 years old again. But there are ways she can tweak her shows to where she's comfortable. Better yet hire a new upbeat choregrapher and creative director that will work around her flaws and NOT make her look like some stiff ass drag queen.

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if you would have read my entire post instead of picking a sentence that you dont agree with you would see that i said she need to DO THE SHOW LIVE, i dont see why it would be impossible for the woman to sing live if she's not dancing up a storm. and why would the production have to be low budget just because its not over the top? contrary to message board beliefs there are janet fans out here who actually prefer her mid-tempo and slower songs. there are artists who dont do dance music at all but has managed to put on really great shows, janet is not some young pop dance diva anymore, its time for her revamp her stage show. i hapen to be a fan of artists who switch up the arrangements of their songs during live performances sometimes, you can be an energetic performer without 20 dancers and fireworks. by the way janet got major props from the general public for that american idol performance where she just 'pranced ' onstage.

I read your whole post.

Janet's not going to sing live and she's going to be dancing. That’s just the way it is. You're failing to understand that dancing is Janet's main selling point. People go to her shows to be entertained by her dancing and the whole pyrotechnics adds more to the excitement.

It’s going to be low budget compared to her past tours.

LOL! Well, they’re in the minority…

Right but their focus isn’t dance music and the people that go to their shows don’t attend to see them dance.

Those artists you’re talking about are most likely known for their singing, not dancing. Big difference.

It was a great performance but Janet got major props since MJ passed. Prior she was being bashed by the media for everything.

I just moved out of state, and none of the closest touring cities where i live is even listed, I really want to go to this tour.

if janet is getting too old for full dance routines, all she needs to do is practice working the mic, she has the stage presence and just dance like she did during her first and second albums...

i wouldn't mind her doing this.....

i look at artist like chaka khan... and she is like what over 50... and still moves... not full choreograph routines, but she knows how to work the stage.

babybugz said:

Timmy84 said:

Considering the choreography of course.

I was thinking about seeing her but I don't know , I have a feeling dates might get cancelled.

why come here with negativity... if you want to see her and you can then do so....

Ellie said:

Diana Ross still does arenas when she comes here. I saw Gladys Knight at Wembley Arena in 2009. What some of them do - even current young acts who are too big to play theatres but not popular enough as a live act to fill 20,000 seat arenas - is cut off about a third of the arena. They only sell tickets for the front 2 or 3 floor blocks and side seats at those places.

Janet's problem over here in Europe is that her current albums just don't sell at all. But, she also hasn't worn any of us down with tours as she hasn't played a solo concert here since 1998. She probably has enough clout as a name to be far too in demand to just settle with large theatres, but maybe not enough to fill somewhere like the O2 Arena.

I wonder why she doesn't sell in Europe

I wonder if she might cover a Michael song on this tour.

If Prince has had a go with 'Shake Your Body', i'd say why not?.

Marrk said:

I wonder if she might cover a Michael song on this tour.

If Prince has had a go with 'Shake Your Body', i'd say why not?.

I doubt it.

Marrk said:

I wonder if she might cover a Michael song on this tour.

If Prince has had a go with 'Shake Your Body', i'd say why not?.

I don't know about a cover, but perhaps some type of homage. I don't think fans should expect it, though.