So, Just curious. Who in here have heard the mysterious circumstances regarding his death?

I know i read he was supposed to be like John Lennon killed by the government or whatever

Any who, not looking for hardcore Conspiracy's lol, but what do you think about some of the circumstances regarding his death? i know that he had Malignant Melanoma. But i have just heard, read, and watched videos regarding his death and there's many thing's to have been said about it.

What's everyones opinion?

brooksie said:

I'm glad to see The Honorable gettin' some love up in here. LOL...I usually don't even try to discuss reggae/dancehall/soca/Caribbean music/ etc on sites that aren't dedicated to the topic cuz so few seem to be interested. It seems maybe now Nesta's starting to gain some Yankee fans?

I've been a regular reggae listener since 1989, but was aware of it before that (thankfully I grew up in a very musical household). But I'm strictly a roots listener. The more political or spiritual the better. I've tried many times to make the transition to dancehall but it just does nothing for me. All my favorites are old school: Bob (obviously), Culture, Israel Vibration, Black Uhuru, Steel Pulse, Burning Spear, Bunny is still keeping the spirit alive, and I definitely dig Gregory Isaacs (even though he also did a lot of "lovers rock"). I actually wish I could find some younger cats that had the same vibe, but I think times have just changed to much for that to happen again.

Gunshalen, I've read the books and seen the docs you're talking about regarding Bob's death. The US government was definitely not Bob's best friend and there is some interesting theories put forth regarding their possible involvement. But in the end, I don't think they had anything to do with it. No, Bob died because he had cancer and refused to get proper medical treatment.

Gunsnhalen said:

So, Just curious. Who in here have heard the mysterious circumstances regarding his death?

I know i read he was supposed to be like John Lennon killed by the government or whatever

Any who, not looking for hardcore Conspiracy's lol, but what do you think about some of the circumstances regarding his death? i know that he had Malignant Melanoma. But i have just heard, read, and watched videos regarding his death and there's many thing's to have been said about it.

What's everyones opinion?

I have never thought anything sinister about Marley's death. But Peter Tosh was murdered. Bob was certainly political, and died soon after Lennon, in the dawning of a new era of Republican leadership. Particularly Lennon, who had been quiet for years, and went to Carter's inauguration, was wire-tapped by Nixon, etc. you can see that he migh thave been seen as an enemy of the Republicans.

Not sure about Bob, but it's young to die from cancer at 36. But it happens. People die even younger, in fact.

NDRU said:

Gunsnhalen said:

So, Just curious. Who in here have heard the mysterious circumstances regarding his death?

I know i read he was supposed to be like John Lennon killed by the government or whatever

Any who, not looking for hardcore Conspiracy's lol, but what do you think about some of the circumstances regarding his death? i know that he had Malignant Melanoma. But i have just heard, read, and watched videos regarding his death and there's many thing's to have been said about it.

What's everyones opinion?

I have never thought anything sinister about Marley's death. But Peter Tosh was murdered. Bob was certainly political, and died soon after Lennon, in the dawning of a new era of Republican leadership. Particularly Lennon, who had been quiet for years, and went to Carter's inauguration, was wire-tapped by Nixon, etc. you can see that he migh thave been seen as an enemy of the Republicans.

Not sure about Bob, but it's young to die from cancer at 36. But it happens. People die even younger, in fact.

This is true, i mean i'm not saying that anything was different other then his cancer. But i mean just a documentary about how his doctor was an ex Nazi? and all this weird stuff.

Cerebus said:

brooksie said:

I'm glad to see The Honorable gettin' some love up in here. LOL...I usually don't even try to discuss reggae/dancehall/soca/Caribbean music/ etc on sites that aren't dedicated to the topic cuz so few seem to be interested. It seems maybe now Nesta's starting to gain some Yankee fans?

I've been a regular reggae listener since 1989, but was aware of it before that (thankfully I grew up in a very musical household). But I'm strictly a roots listener. The more political or spiritual the better. I've tried many times to make the transition to dancehall but it just does nothing for me. All my favorites are old school: Bob (obviously), Culture, Israel Vibration, Black Uhuru, Steel Pulse, Burning Spear, Bunny is still keeping the spirit alive, and I definitely dig Gregory Isaacs (even though he also did a lot of "lovers rock"). I actually wish I could find some younger cats that had the same vibe, but I think times have just changed to much for that to happen again.

Gunshalen, I've read the books and seen the docs you're talking about regarding Bob's death. The US government was definitely not Bob's best friend and there is some interesting theories put forth regarding their possible involvement. But in the end, I don't think they had anything to do with it. No, Bob died because he had cancer and refused to get proper medical treatment.

Yes, like Lennon the U.S gov was not to happy with Bob. But the stories are crazy, and either way i feel bad Bob had cancer and died at such a young age

manray10 said:

On February 1, 2011, tuff gong/Universal Music Enterprises will be releasing Bob Marley's last official concert." Bob Marley and The Wailers - Live Forever- September 23, 1980, Stanley Theater, Pittsburgh, PA- 2 cds.

That is all lol

Gunsnhalen said:

NDRU said:

I have never thought anything sinister about Marley's death. But Peter Tosh was murdered. Bob was certainly political, and died soon after Lennon, in the dawning of a new era of Republican leadership. Particularly Lennon, who had been quiet for years, and went to Carter's inauguration, was wire-tapped by Nixon, etc. you can see that he migh thave been seen as an enemy of the Republicans.

Not sure about Bob, but it's young to die from cancer at 36. But it happens. People die even younger, in fact.

This is true, i mean i'm not saying that anything was different other then his cancer. But i mean just a documentary about how his doctor was an ex Nazi? and all this weird stuff.

yeah I think it was just cancer, but Bob would have been a prime candidate for political assassination if anyone was

I remember vaguely hearing something about the type of cancer he had was not normally associated with blacks? That he was possibly injected with it...something like that, but I never really paid it any mind.

As for the US govt...yeah, they were watching him. In 1975 he was listed as #5 on the CIA's most watched list, leading Bob to tell them about themselves...

Dont involve Rasta in your say say

Rasta dont work for no CIA

They did try to assassinate him in Jamaica, December 1975, but it revolved around the elections in Jamaica. For those who dont know the story...

The two rival parties (led by whites; Michael Manley was one, I dont remember the other) had the black youth in Jamaica basically killing each other in their names. One of the political leaders approached Bob about putting on a concert to promote a peaceful election and Bob agreed. Said politician then made posters/advertisements for the show that depicted Bob as being on their side. The black youth who supported the rival politician then attempted to assassinate Bob a day or so before the concert.

The band was rehearsing and took a break. Bob walked into the kitchen and started peeling a grapefruit. He heard a noise at the door and looked...saw the gunman creeping into the house. Gunman opened fire and Bob turned sideways. The bullet went thru his left arm, grazed his chest, and went in and out of his right arm. Both his manager and wife were shot as well, his manager the worst, but everyone survived. And of course, Bob sang about it...

See them fighting for power

but they know not the hour

So they be bribin with their guns, spare parts, and money

trying to belittle our integrity now

They say what we know

is just what they tell us

and we're so ignorant

cause everytime they can reach us

Through political strategy they keep us hungry

and when you gonna get some food

your brother got to be your enemy

Ambush in the night

all guns aiming at me

Ambush in the night

They open fire on me

Ambush in the night

PROTECTED BY HIS MAJESTY!

Ooo wee, ooo wee...

That incident led to about two years of living in exile in London.

While in London, removed from all the pressure that went along with being the "King of Jamaica" (Bob ran Trenchtown, folks), he recorded the "Exodus" and "Kaya" albums. "Kaya" is full of love songs, very little political talk on that one, cause Bob said he was tired of fighting.

He came back to the struggle though in 1979 with "Survival".

Cerebus said:

brooksie said:

I'm glad to see The Honorable gettin' some love up in here. LOL...I usually don't even try to discuss reggae/dancehall/soca/Caribbean music/ etc on sites that aren't dedicated to the topic cuz so few seem to be interested. It seems maybe now Nesta's starting to gain some Yankee fans?

I've been a regular reggae listener since 1989, but was aware of it before that (thankfully I grew up in a very musical household). But I'm strictly a roots listener. The more political or spiritual the better. I've tried many times to make the transition to dancehall but it just does nothing for me. All my favorites are old school: Bob (obviously), Culture, Israel Vibration, Black Uhuru, Steel Pulse, Burning Spear, Bunny is still keeping the spirit alive, and I definitely dig Gregory Isaacs (even though he also did a lot of "lovers rock"). I actually wish I could find some younger cats that had the same vibe, but I think times have just changed to much for that to happen again.

Gunshalen, I've read the books and seen the docs you're talking about regarding Bob's death. The US government was definitely not Bob's best friend and there is some interesting theories put forth regarding their possible involvement. But in the end, I don't think they had anything to do with it. No, Bob died because he had cancer and refused to get proper medical treatment.

You probably know about these but I didnt see them listed in your favs...

Mikey Dread--SWALK (Sealed With A Loving Kiss)

Don Carlos--A Passing Glance

Two fantastic albums from the early/mid 80s.

Get em now if you aint got em!!!!

Kaya is such a strong album; Easy Skanking, Kaya, Is This Love, Satisfy My Soul, Sun Is Shining, She's Gone, Misty Morning, Running Away and Time Will Tell (the bold tracks are two of my all time favorites). Shewwww. That's a greatest hits album for some people.

The "Tuff Gong" side of Bob and his life in Trenchtown is pretty crazy. He was such a deep, multifaceted human being. No telling what he could have accomplished if he'd been able to live a long life.

StonedImmaculate said:

Cerebus said:

I've been a regular reggae listener since 1989, but was aware of it before that (thankfully I grew up in a very musical household). But I'm strictly a roots listener. The more political or spiritual the better. I've tried many times to make the transition to dancehall but it just does nothing for me. All my favorites are old school: Bob (obviously), Culture, Israel Vibration, Black Uhuru, Steel Pulse, Burning Spear, Bunny is still keeping the spirit alive, and I definitely dig Gregory Isaacs (even though he also did a lot of "lovers rock"). I actually wish I could find some younger cats that had the same vibe, but I think times have just changed to much for that to happen again.

Gunshalen, I've read the books and seen the docs you're talking about regarding Bob's death. The US government was definitely not Bob's best friend and there is some interesting theories put forth regarding their possible involvement. But in the end, I don't think they had anything to do with it. No, Bob died because he had cancer and refused to get proper medical treatment.

You probably know about these but I didnt see them listed in your favs...

Mikey Dread--SWALK (Sealed With A Loving Kiss)

Don Carlos--A Passing Glance

Two fantastic albums from the early/mid 80s.

Get em now if you aint got em!!!!

Love Don Carlos! Don Carlos and Gold made some incredible albums together. Not as familiar with Mikey Dread, but I know I should be. Added him to the list.

An impossible thing to do: rank Bob's albums from best to worst. They're all so frakking good!!!

But "Kaya" is definitely up there (hey, thats where my daughter got her name!).

To me, "She's Gone" is a definite highlight. I wonder how true the lyrics are, seeing as while Bob was all over the place while married to Rita, Rita herself dipped elsewhere and actually had a daughter who wasnt Bob's around this time.

My woman is gone (the woman is gone)

My woman is gone (the woman is gone)

She had left me a note hanging on my door

She said she couldnt take it, she couldnt take anymore

The pressure around me...she just couldnt see

She felt like a prisoner who needs to be free

Fools have tried, yeah, wise men have failed

Oh listen to me honey, life could never be another jail

Still we know now you'll never see smoke without fire

And everyone you see has a heart desire

She's Gone...she's gone...she's gone...she's gone, yeah

Oh mockingbird have you ever heard

Words that I never heard

She made it thru the exit, she just couldnt take it

She made it thru the exit, she just couldnt fake it

And oh, my children, if you see me crying...my woman is gone

If you see me, if you see me, if you see me, if you see me crying

If you see me, if you see me, if you see me, if you see me crying

She's Gone...Oh mockingbird have you ever heard

Words that I never heard

Got me thinking 'I Am Legend' w/ Will Smith was on TV tonight i should really own more than just 'Legend'. It's a bit embarrasing but where should i jump on, summer round the corner and all.

Marrk said:

Got me thinking 'I Am Legend' w/ Will Smith was on TV tonight i should really own more than just 'Legend'. It's a bit embarrasing but where should i jump on, summer round the corner and all.

Nothing to be ashamed of..."Legend" is where most start!

Uhh...it's tough to say cause again, they are all BADASS!

Id say get "Rastaman Vibration" and go in order from there...Exodus...Kaya...Babylon By Bus (awesome live cuts!)...Survival...Uprising

The songs that I like:

She's Gone

Buffalo Solider

Africa Unite

I Shot the Sheriff

Will Be Forever Loving Jah

Get Up, Stand Up

One Love

oh and I LOVE Caribbean men! any boy that digs Bob Marley is definitely on my list

PurpleDiamond2009 said:

The songs that I like:

She's Gone

Buffalo Solider

Africa Unite

I Shot the Sheriff

Will Be Forever Loving Jah

Get Up, Stand Up

One Love

oh and I LOVE Caribbean men! any boy that digs Bob Marley is definitely on my list

Well anyone who dig's Bob is on my list as well

Gunsnhalen said:

PurpleDiamond2009 said:

The songs that I like:

She's Gone

Buffalo Solider

Africa Unite

I Shot the Sheriff

Will Be Forever Loving Jah

Get Up, Stand Up

One Love

oh and I LOVE Caribbean men! any boy that digs Bob Marley is definitely on my list

Well anyone who dig's Bob is on my list as well

Top 10 for me as far as Bob goes:

• The Sun is Shining
• Fussin' & Fightin'
• Waiting in Vain
• Exodus
• Buffalo Soldier
• Could You Be Loved
• Redemption Song
• They Got So Much to Say
• Natural Mystic
• I Know

Timmy84 said:

Top 10 for me as far as Bob goes:

• The Sun is Shining
• Fussin' & Fightin'
• Waiting in Vain
• Exodus
• Buffalo Soldier
• Could You Be Loved
• Redemption Song
• They Got So Much to Say
• Natural Mystic
• I Know

Timmy always has the good taste

Could you be loved gives me chills idk... the lyrics and sound idk.... just something about it.

I would have to add Uprising & Soul Shakedown Party to that list

is this love is one of the best songs ever written:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...vzTV6wfkvA

Gunsnhalen said:

Timmy84 said:

Top 10 for me as far as Bob goes:

• The Sun is Shining
• Fussin' & Fightin'
• Waiting in Vain
• Exodus
• Buffalo Soldier
• Could You Be Loved
• Redemption Song
• They Got So Much to Say
• Natural Mystic
• I Know

Timmy always has the good taste

Could you be loved gives me chills idk... the lyrics and sound idk.... just something about it.

I would have to add Uprising & Soul Shakedown Party to that list

"Soul Shakedown Party" is the shit. I also love "Lively Up Yourself".

Cerebus said:

brooksie said:

I'm glad to see The Honorable gettin' some love up in here. LOL...I usually don't even try to discuss reggae/dancehall/soca/Caribbean music/ etc on sites that aren't dedicated to the topic cuz so few seem to be interested. It seems maybe now Nesta's starting to gain some Yankee fans?

I've been a regular reggae listener since 1989, but was aware of it before that (thankfully I grew up in a very musical household). But I'm strictly a roots listener. The more political or spiritual the better. I've tried many times to make the transition to dancehall but it just does nothing for me. All my favorites are old school: Bob (obviously), Culture, Israel Vibration, Black Uhuru, Steel Pulse, Burning Spear, Bunny is still keeping the spirit alive, and I definitely dig Gregory Isaacs (even though he also did a lot of "lovers rock"). I actually wish I could find some younger cats that had the same vibe, but I think times have just changed to much for that to happen again.

Gunshalen, I've read the books and seen the docs you're talking about regarding Bob's death. The US government was definitely not Bob's best friend and there is some interesting theories put forth regarding their possible involvement. But in the end, I don't think they had anything to do with it. No, Bob died because he had cancer and refused to get proper medical treatment.

Yes, it's weird how so few have kept up the roots tradition while roots remains far more popular internationally than dancehall. Truthfully I think much of it is down to not having those great studio/live musicians and creative producers who aren't overly reliant on technology.Unfortunately the 80s weren't kind to the roots gang!

I think Buju Banton tried to make the transtition after his little "problem" wrt his anti gay stuff, but I'm not sure it ever really took off. Dancehall is popular internationally, but I think it has nothing like the following that roots does. Mutaburuka probably gets more play " a foreign" than in JA...same w/ Jimmy Cliff.

The Jamaican music scene/club is one that I don't fully understand and never will, but I enjoy the output.

BTW, you might like Kiddus I if political and uber roots is your thang!