My brother, recently reminded me about this. The entire show and this performance from it, is on Youtube.

shorttrini said:

My brother, recently reminded me about this. The entire show and this performance from it, is on Youtube.

I don't remember exactly what he said, but John Lennon made a smart aleck comment about Paul recording this and putting it out as a single.

MickyDolenz said:

shorttrini said:

My brother, recently reminded me about this. The entire show and this performance from it, is on Youtube.

I don't remember exactly what he said, but John Lennon made a smart aleck comment about Paul recording this and putting it out as a single.

If I remember correctly, he did it for charity.

Can anyone shed any more light on these "Mary Had A Little Lamb" videos and why he recorded it?

I found this on wikipedia but not sure how true it is:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...ey_song%29

I'm a HUGE McCartney fan and I have all his stuff and I think he's a genius, etc. etc. etc.

But when I see something like this I wonder wtf???? Why was this recorded and released?
It seems pretty silly and not very good.

What is the purpose of that video other than to display that hideous mullet that McCartney was rocking back then???

I can still dig it... just a little, since it's McCartney... But it leaves me scratching my head!

stupid song

dammme said:

stupid song

You didn't sing this in nursury school. On Stevie Wonder's Live At Last DVD, he sings London Bridge on a talk box.

I heard it was actually a response to a couple of songs of his that had been banned--Give Ireland Back to the Irish and Hi Hi Hi--so he recorded this as if to say "is this acceptable for th airwaves?"

I surprising as it may seem, Paul was not seen back then as the creampuff he is today.

NDRU said:

I heard it was actually a response to a couple of songs of his that had been banned--Give Ireland Back to the Irish and Hi Hi Hi--so he recorded this as if to say "is this acceptable for th airwaves?"

I surprising as it may seem, Paul was not seen back then as the creampuff he is today.

I don't know, in the past Wings wasn't taken as seriously as John's or even George's solo music by some people. Even in The Beatles, Paul's songs were seen as more commercial than the others. But as he said in Silly Love Songs "What's wrong with that?".

MickyDolenz said:

NDRU said:

I heard it was actually a response to a couple of songs of his that had been banned--Give Ireland Back to the Irish and Hi Hi Hi--so he recorded this as if to say "is this acceptable for th airwaves?"

I surprising as it may seem, Paul was not seen back then as the creampuff he is today.

I don't know, in the past Wings wasn't taken as seriously as John's or even George's solo music by some people. Even in The Beatles, Paul's songs were seen as more commercial than the others. But as he said in Silly Love Songs "What's wrong with that?".

yeah I agree, from the standpoint of the Beatle fan.

I meant from a mainstream media POV. I think certain media viewed the Beatles as all the same longhaired pot smoking genius hippies.

They all benefitted and suffered from association with each other.

NDRU said:

I heard it was actually a response to a couple of songs of his that had been banned--Give Ireland Back to the Irish and Hi Hi Hi--so he recorded this as if to say "is this acceptable for th airwaves?"

I surprising as it may seem, Paul was not seen back then as the creampuff he is today.

Cool answer... When seen in that light it does make a little more sense... Thanks!

The more I listen to it, the catchier it gets.... Damn you Paul!

emilio319 said:

The more I listen to it, the catchier it gets.... Damn you Paul!

Paul didn't write it. It's an old nursury rhyme, it's supposed to be catchy. I think it came from Mother Goose.

MickyDolenz said:

emilio319 said:

The more I listen to it, the catchier it gets.... Damn you Paul!

Paul didn't write it. It's an old nursury rhyme, it's supposed to be catchy. I think it came from Mother Goose.

Paul added things to the song, such as melody and ad-libs so, he does get a writer's credit.

MickyDolenz said:

emilio319 said:

The more I listen to it, the catchier it gets.... Damn you Paul!

Paul didn't write it. It's an old nursury rhyme, it's supposed to be catchy. I think it came from Mother Goose.

Well, I know the words are from the children's song but that melody is compeltely different so I have to assume that it was written by Paul (the melody). In fact I just checked my Wings Wild Life cd and it does say that it was written by Paul & Linda McCartney.

Here is the melody from the kids' song:

As you can see, the words are the same but the songs/melodies are completely different so really it IS written by Sir Paul.

I'll check it out later.

emilio319 said:

As you can see, the words are the same but the songs/melodies are completely different so really it IS written by Sir Paul.

Many people have changed arrangements or music to songs but keep the original lyrics, but don't get a songwriting credit for it. Mary Had A Little Lamb is probably public domain.

MickyDolenz said:

emilio319 said:

As you can see, the words are the same but the songs/melodies are completely different so really it IS written by Sir Paul.

Many people have changed arrangements or music to songs but keep the original lyrics, but don't get a songwriting credit for it. Mary Had A Little Lamb is probably public domain.

Yeah I'm pretty sure "Mary Had A Little Lamb" is public domain but the melody is completely Paul's and I would say that the melody is the most definitive part of any song.

emilio319 said:

MickyDolenz said:

Many people have changed arrangements or music to songs but keep the original lyrics, but don't get a songwriting credit for it. Mary Had A Little Lamb is probably public domain.

Yeah I'm pretty sure "Mary Had A Little Lamb" is public domain but the melody is completely Paul's and I would say that the melody is the most definitive part of any song.

yeah it is not much like the original version

NDRU said:

emilio319 said:

Yeah I'm pretty sure "Mary Had A Little Lamb" is public domain but the melody is completely Paul's and I would say that the melody is the most definitive part of any song.

yeah it is not much like the original version

Technically, the original version was a poem, not a song.

MickyDolenz said:

NDRU said:

yeah it is not much like the original version

Technically, the original version was a poem, not a song.

but there is a melody

NDRU said:

MickyDolenz said:

Technically, the original version was a poem, not a song.

but there is a melody

That's because someone later set it to music. Similar to the 23rd Psalm in the bible. It wasn't written as a song either, but someone set it to music and turned it into a song.

MickyDolenz said:

NDRU said:

but there is a melody

That's because someone later set it to music. Similar to the 23rd Psalm in the bible. It wasn't written as a song either, but someone set it to music and turned it into a song.

So PM set an old poem to new music, then. Do you know if there is a known author for the poem?

NDRU said:

MickyDolenz said:

That's because someone later set it to music. Similar to the 23rd Psalm in the bible. It wasn't written as a song either, but someone set it to music and turned it into a song.

So PM set an old poem to new music, then. Do you know if there is a known author for the poem?

It comes from Mother Goose. Who "Mother Goose" is, I don't know. It's probably a traditional oral thing, sort of like Grimm's Fairy Tales. The Grimm brothers didn't actually make up most of the stories, they just wrote down tales that were told over hundreds of years.