Aretha, Patti, or Whitney?

Chaka Khan

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Chaka Khan

^^^^

Aretha > the rest

midiscover said:

Aretha > the rest

Brenda Halloway > the rest.

Ch...

I ain't picking but I'll tell you when their vocals were at their peak:

Aretha - 1967-1979 (the chain smoking got to her by the early '80s)

Patti - 1971-1991 (she's kept up but 1971-1991 were the years where she could do no wrong)

Whitney - 1985-1995 (the cracks started to show afterwards...little did we know and from what )

Timmy84 said:

I ain't picking but I'll tell you when their vocals were at their peak:

Aretha - 1967-1979 (the chain smoking got to her by the early '80s)

Patti - 1971-1991 (she's kept up but 1971-1991 were the years where she could do no wrong)

Whitney - 1985-1995 (the cracks started to show afterwards...little did we know and from what )

clever guy.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Timmy84 said:

I ain't picking but I'll tell you when their vocals were at their peak:

Aretha - 1967-1979 (the chain smoking got to her by the early '80s)

Patti - 1971-1991 (she's kept up but 1971-1991 were the years where she could do no wrong)

Whitney - 1985-1995 (the cracks started to show afterwards...little did we know and from what )

clever guy.

I could've said rocks.

musicjunky318 said:

Aretha, Patti, or Whitney?

ARETHA! Handsdown!

Timmy84 said:

I ain't picking but I'll tell you when their vocals were at their peak:

Aretha - 1967-1979 (the chain smoking got to her by the early '80s)

Patti - 1971-1991 (she's kept up but 1971-1991 were the years where she could do no wrong)

Whitney - 1985-1995 (the cracks started to show afterwards...little did we know and from what )

They are all amazing....

But i feel Aretha & Patti had enough albums, and expanding genres that there talents where put to good use.

Whitney on the other hand.... her first few albums are good!, but everything after The Bodyguard soundtrack is very so so.

Whitney Houston & Whitney are classics to me, I'm your baby is pretty good but nothing special, but i liked that she was doing more straight R&B Work. The Bodyguard was her last grasp sadly.

So to me Whitney only used her voice truly on 4 albums , it just seem's such a wasted talent to me. I Wish she could have gone on to make many great albums...

Whitney was a very wasted talent anyway. Even her "best" material had some blunders. She never reached for anything artistic like Aretha and Patti did. It was almost always commercial and when it wasn't, it was usually for some sad tabloid shit.

Timmy84 said:

Whitney was a very wasted talent anyway. Even her "best" material had some blunders. She never reached for anything artistic like Aretha and Patti did. It was almost always commercial and when it wasn't, it was usually for some sad tabloid shit.

I was going to mention that to...

I do love her early albums, but some of the stuff is of course very poppy. And not outstanding... if Whitney could have made more knock em out type ballads like Greatest Love Of All, she really could have been something.

I mean i love How Will I know, All At Once, So Emotional, I Wanna Dance With Somebody, Hold Me, You Give Good Love etc. But there not exceptional.

I think if she had gone on, and gotten in the right hands. She could have had a I Never Loved A Man or Lady Soul type album

Gunsnhalen said:

Timmy84 said:

Whitney was a very wasted talent anyway. Even her "best" material had some blunders. She never reached for anything artistic like Aretha and Patti did. It was almost always commercial and when it wasn't, it was usually for some sad tabloid shit.

I was going to mention that to...

I do love her early albums, but some of the stuff is of course very poppy. And not outstanding... if Whitney could have made more knock em out type ballads like Greatest Love Of All, she really could have been something.

I mean i love How Will I know, All At Once, So Emotional, I Wanna Dance With Somebody, Hold Me, You Give Good Love etc. But there not exceptional.

I think if she had gone on, and gotten in the right hands. She could have had a I Never Loved A Man or Lady Soul type album

She was kinda doomed anyway... look who she ended up signing with.

Timmy84 said:

Gunsnhalen said:

I was going to mention that to...

I do love her early albums, but some of the stuff is of course very poppy. And not outstanding... if Whitney could have made more knock em out type ballads like Greatest Love Of All, she really could have been something.

I mean i love How Will I know, All At Once, So Emotional, I Wanna Dance With Somebody, Hold Me, You Give Good Love etc. But there not exceptional.

I think if she had gone on, and gotten in the right hands. She could have had a I Never Loved A Man or Lady Soul type album

She was kinda doomed anyway... look who she ended up signing with.

This is truth

Speaking of good singers, what the hell ever happened to her anti Dionne Warwick?

I haven't heard about her in ages

Teena Marie "It Must Be Magic"...she still rips it up though!

Whitney.

Timmy84 said:

Gunsnhalen said:

I was going to mention that to...

I do love her early albums, but some of the stuff is of course very poppy. And not outstanding... if Whitney could have made more knock em out type ballads like Greatest Love Of All, she really could have been something.

I mean i love How Will I know, All At Once, So Emotional, I Wanna Dance With Somebody, Hold Me, You Give Good Love etc. But there not exceptional.

I think if she had gone on, and gotten in the right hands. She could have had a I Never Loved A Man or Lady Soul type album

She was kinda doomed anyway... look who she ended up signing with.

I'm tired of ya'll blaming the Great B. Brown for Whitney's shit

bboy87 said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Chaka Khan

^^^^

I don't even wanna analyze the feeling I get everytime I hear "Egyptian Song" or "Roll Me Through The Rushes".

I wanna say Sarah Vaughan & Dinah Washington, but even despite their wild lifestyle, they never lost their vocal peak, in fact they gained more vocal articulation & richness the older they got until they died.

This is one of those open ended questions that can go on

and on. Just right off the top of my head a toss up

between Gladys Knight and Chaka Khan

Aretha Louise Franklin! The best female voice to ever grace the earth.

Her Columbia years were a bit eclectic , all over the place style and material wise (1960 to 1966), but her Atlantic years (1967 thru 1979) and her first two at Arista (1980 to 1982) are a songbook of vocal mastery.

By 1983's GET IT RIGHT album, the effects of chain smoking Kool cigarettes from age 14 (to emulate her father and teen crush Sam Cooke) had taken their toll.

Though there were some glimmers of brillance from 1983 on, hey days were in the mid-Seventies, she was fiyahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

To mention screaming Meenie Patti LaBelle and Crack is Whack Nippy in the same sentence is blasphemy. On her worst day, Aretha coukd still run circles around Miss Holt and Miss Houston. Only Gladys Knight and Chaka Khan are in the league with Aretha.

get healed Queen of Soul

Patti (1975-2000)

Chaka (1980-2000)

Teena (1985-2005)

Mariah (1995-2000)

bboy87 said:

Timmy84 said:

She was kinda doomed anyway... look who she ended up signing with.

I'm tired of ya'll blaming the Great B. Brown for Whitney's shit

I think they were blaming the Great Clive A Davis....

I would say for best pure voice it's Aretha! I don't think Patti ever fell off. Whitney never used her voice to its best potential. Mariah also had a great voice that peaked and is done.

You still have Chaka, Donna, and many others picking up the slack.

Biz Markie

To me, its all about emoting, so in that case

Chaka Khan: 1970's to present- Her voice has changed but she can still use what she has better than most divas

for males:

Stevie Wonder: 1973 to 1995

Its just the energy, the emotion and the skill, he would surprise the heck out of you with some of his runs. After 1996 it gets kind of rough, but his skill is still there.

Mariah and Whitney are definitely on the list. Stevie Wonder too in the mid 70's

MJ, I have no words, his voice was always wonderful to me, and what I love is that it was diverse in different periods that there are different vocal mj's for people to enjoy. Some people preffered him as a child, others as a young adult and others as an adult.

bboy87 said:

Timmy84 said:

She was kinda doomed anyway... look who she ended up signing with.

I'm tired of ya'll blaming the Great B. Brown for Whitney's shit

I was talking about Clive!

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BklynBabe said:

bboy87 said:

I'm tired of ya'll blaming the Great B. Brown for Whitney's shit

I think they were blaming the Great Clive A Davis....

I would say for best pure voice it's Aretha! I don't think Patti ever fell off. Whitney never used her voice to its best potential. Mariah also had a great voice that peaked and is done.

You still have Chaka, Donna, and many others picking up the slack.

Nope. Of course with age and diabetes, it's affected somewhat but it's still powerful.

musicjunky318 said:

Aretha, Patti, or Whitney?

Aretha.

I guess as far as pure vocals go, I have to go with Aretha in her prime. She seemed to bring out her soul without busting her throat. Hell I think she was in her prime at the age of 14:

I would say between 1956 and around 1979 now that I think about it is when Aretha was at her real prime.