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Thread started 12/22/10 8:22am

thebanishedone

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Why fans and critics don't like Raise by Earth Wind and Fire

Ewf released Raise in 1981 and while

it was a commercial success

fans and critics think it isn't there with Earth Wind & Fire classic albums.

Why?

I find Raise to be EWF most effective body of work.

Yes Earth Wind & Fire had better songs

but this album have the best flow.

And if you want EWF to rock this

is the album for you

combination of gritty funk with hard rock guitars.

my favorite song is Changing Times

this is the review i found on All music.com

by William Ruhlmann

The end was near for Earth, Wind & Fire. Raise! wasn't quite the disaster it was made out to be at the time, but it was their least distinguished overall album since the early days on Warner Bros., with the exception of their participation in the awful Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band film soundtrack in 1978. "Let's Groove" was just a recycled mid-tempo tune from the mid-'70s, and everything else sounded desultory and uninspired. It was no surprise that after two more albums Maurice White and Company decided to take some time away from the scene.-UNinspired???

they sound like they are on fire to my ears

[Edited 12/22/10 8:26am]

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Reply #1 posted 12/22/10 10:51am

debbiedean2

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Raise was the first album I've won off the radio (WJLB of course). My Love, Changing Times, Wanna Be With You is the shiznit!

Never cared for Let's Groove hmph! lol

I'M NOT SHOUTING, JEEZ!
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Reply #2 posted 12/22/10 1:07pm

Harlepolis

Its not that I dislike "Raise", there're some cool moments here & there, its the fact that EW&F started to have a generic sound starting from "Boogie Wonderland" and then on.

Vernon said it best, its started to go downhill on them when they began to second guess their musical moves.

To me, EW&F's finest moments were when Charles Stepney co-produced/arranged their albums. Maurice White might've been the leader, but Charles was the pulse.

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Reply #3 posted 12/22/10 1:19pm

vainandy

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"Let's Groove", "I've Had Enough", "The Changing Times".....

I loved it.

Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #4 posted 12/22/10 1:29pm

SoulAlive

I love this album! I love the songs "Let's Groove","I've Had Enough",the rock-flavored "Changing Times" and the two slow jams are superb ("My Love" and "Wanna Be With You").There's no filler on this album,every track is strong.

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Reply #5 posted 12/22/10 1:33pm

thebanishedone

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Soulalive i agree ,no filler

great album smile

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Reply #6 posted 12/22/10 3:44pm

phunkdaddy

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I don't get why people would criticize it. To me it's flawless from beginning

to end. It's definitely one of my top 5 EWF albums.

Don't laugh at my funk
This funk is a serious joint
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Reply #7 posted 12/22/10 3:49pm

JamFanHot

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I agree..it's a great album. I felt the same way about "Powerlight".

Funk Is It's Own Reward
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Reply #8 posted 12/22/10 4:21pm

phunkdaddy

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JamFanHot said:

I agree..it's a great album. I felt the same way about "Powerlight".

nod

sans Freedom of Choice

Don't laugh at my funk
This funk is a serious joint
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Reply #9 posted 12/22/10 4:29pm

Allnall

While I find the criticism of RAISE a bit strong, the one thing I noticed from the get go is that songs Lady Sun, My Love and Evolution Orange all start off very similarly with what sounds to be a handclap...

I often wondered if it was just my ears or if Maurice intended the songs to follow that pattern....

However, I prefer side 2...from Kalimba Tree all the way thru Changing Times......there is a real snap to the songs....and Changing Times goes in a direction that EWF should have mined a little more I feel....

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Reply #10 posted 12/22/10 4:45pm

phunkdaddy

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I remember i bought this album one weekend and got sick. I stayed home

the following Monday from school and played this album for 2 hours.

Love how Wanna Be Wih You segues into Changing Times.

Don't laugh at my funk
This funk is a serious joint
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Reply #11 posted 12/23/10 2:43am

SoulAlive

phunkdaddy said:

JamFanHot said:

I agree..it's a great album. I felt the same way about "Powerlight".

nod

sans Freedom of Choice

I'm not too crazy about 'Powerlight' boxed The two singles are great ("Fall In Love With Me" and "Side By Side",two vibrant tunes with the classic EW&F sound) but the rest of the album is lazy and uninspired.

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Reply #12 posted 12/23/10 3:42am

kitbradley

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"Raise" has always been one of my favorite EW&F albums. "I Wanna Be With You", "Changing Times" and "Evolution Orange" are some of the best songs they recorded.

"It's not nice to fuck with K.B.! All you haters will see!" - Kitbradley
"The only true wisdom is knowing you know nothing." - Socrates
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Reply #13 posted 12/27/10 1:41pm

SoulAlive

phunkdaddy said:

I remember i bought this album one weekend and got sick. I stayed home

the following Monday from school and played this album for 2 hours.

Love how Wanna Be Wih You segues into Changing Times.

You weren't sick....you just wanted to stay home so you could play this record over and over lol I did the same thing when I got Prince's 'Controversy' album,lol.

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Reply #14 posted 12/27/10 6:55pm

phunkdaddy

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SoulAlive said:

phunkdaddy said:

I remember i bought this album one weekend and got sick. I stayed home

the following Monday from school and played this album for 2 hours.

Love how Wanna Be Wih You segues into Changing Times.

You weren't sick....you just wanted to stay home so you could play this record over and over lol I did the same thing when I got Prince's 'Controversy' album,lol.

lol

Don't laugh at my funk
This funk is a serious joint
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Reply #15 posted 12/29/10 5:50am

PFunkjazz

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The assumption that started this thread is all wrong. RAISE! is the LAST EWF album that most fans universally liked. Critics aside, RAISE! was the last tour EWF did without an opening act for multiple nights in a large arena (capacity greater than 15,000) and sold out all nights. SInce that tour they've played one-night stands in smaller amphitheaters/

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Reply #16 posted 12/29/10 6:41am

DigitalGardin

PFunkjazz said:

The assumption that started this thread is all wrong. RAISE! is the LAST EWF album that most fans universally liked. Critics aside, RAISE! was the last tour EWF did without an opening act for multiple nights in a large arena (capacity greater than 15,000) and sold out all nights. SInce that tour they've played one-night stands in smaller amphitheaters/

Honestly, I never cared for the RAISE album..other than WANNA BE WITH YOU, I could have done without the rest..

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