Timmy84 said:

MrSoulpower said:

You couldn't be more wrong. You just have to look for it.

HIS type of funk? I think not.

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Well, his type of Funk covers a very limited era, gently put.

But we're talking about Funk, not vainandy's type of Funk, right?

MrSoulpower said:

Timmy84 said:

HIS type of funk? I think not.

[Edited 12/21/10 10:28am]

Well, his type of Funk covers a very limited era, gently put.

But we're talking about Funk, not vainandy's type of Funk, right?

Funk comes in all varieties lol wish "Andy's type of funk" make a comeback.

Timmy84 said:

MrSoulpower said:

Well, his type of Funk covers a very limited era, gently put.

But we're talking about Funk, not vainandy's type of Funk, right?

Funk comes in all varieties lol wish "Andy's type of funk" make a comeback.

I think his Funk is not organic enough to make a live comeback. But it's certainly not dead. You know my co-host runs a pretty popular Disco Funk series on our radio show .. a lot of people love that one, which shows me that it's definitely not dead.

But I agree, few people perform or record late 1970s/early 1980s Funk. The Funk revival focuses more on the late 1960s to mid-1970s sound.

Yeah I just wished it spread past 1974 lol

The type of Funk I prefer is obscure to those who enjoy Funk. That says a lot.

Traditional country, bluegrass, etc are still around and very much kicking. Much of it is performed live and it's also played on PBS and community style radio stations. The real stuff is out there (just like w/ the blues) but you gotta find your hook up.

As for swing, which I also love, it's still around too but rarer given the need for multi live musicians on most instruments. It gets played around my way on the small community type stations. LOL...my grandmother listens to it every Saturday!

If somene did a club just focused on funk or swing or whatever, they'd make a killing cuz there's tons of folks who still listen that would like to dance club-style to it.

JoeTyler said:

Timmy84 said:

Disco is indeed STILL ALIVE!

If Disco is alive, then dinosaurs are still alive LOL : dinosaurs still "live" in movies, BBC stuff, museums, illustrated books, etc. but THE ORIGINAL thing is dead, just like 70s disco...

a bunch of electronic samples are not enough to resurrect a genre that, for all intents and purposes, died in the early-80s... or evolved into something that cannot be called disco anymore...

Do you listen to alot of today's dance music? Much of it sounds just like 70s disco.Trust me,disco is still alive,it's just no longer called "disco music" Listen to stuff like Jamiroquai,Sophie Ellis Bextor,and anything else that is considered dance music.

The only thing that really "died" are the white polyester suits and platforms The music lives on forever.

Something to keep in mind....just because you don't hear a style of music on the radio,doesn't mean that it's "dead".Disco,in fact,was an underground thing in the early 70s.It only became mainstream after 'Saturday Night Fever',then a few years later it went back into the underground again.But it's still there

Channel 844 Directv and in my funk lab

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Boogie Wonderland.. This Funk / Disco band is VERY popular in Minnesota and they play venues everywhere in Minneapolis, St. Paul and surrounding areas...

Oh yeah dont forget Dr. Mambos Combo..

Again..right here in Minneapolis...they play every Monday beginning at 7 @ Bunkers

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paisleypark4 said:

vainandy said:

Inside the homes of the cool people with good taste. As for publicly though....nowhere. The general public has lost it's taste and rhythm.

Not true..

I got to Elixer on Fridays and listen to slammin down funk by a Dj here in Minneapolis from 5 - 10pm

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Honey, I don't trust my totalled out car (that I'm still driving because I don't have the money for a car note each month) to make it across town, let alone to Minneapolis. Although, it might be worth taking a chance if you were there. But anyway, isn't that a straight club? Hell, I can't get no dick in a straight club so that don't do me no good.

But yeah, even down here, there may be a local unknown band that plays cover tunes. I still can't get that horrible image out of my head of that white boy in a club one night singing...."She's a very kinky girrrrrrrrrl, the kind you don't take home to motherrrrrr"....He sounded absolutely ridiculous. Hell, even a black person would have sounded rediculous because folks like Rick James or Prince simply cannot be duplicated by anyone else.

I've been to few places that might have a band that plays old cover tunes or even a band that plays their own stuff but the atmosphere is just not my kind of scene. These are usually uppitty adventurous "artsy" type crowds with an "appreciation for good music". Yeah, we get along with each other but they themselves really don't get down like we used to get down back in the day when funk was in the black mainstream. Ain't no real ass shakin' goin' on and there are very few black in the joints. Hell, that ain't no party, that's a music appreciation class. Also, it's always a straight atmosphere. Hell, I can't get no dick in no damned straight atmosphere. That's why, like I've always said, either funk, or something just as fun and uptempo as either funk, disco, or house needs to be back in the mainstream black world again because that means it will be everywhere, including the black gay clubs and people can start having fun again and getting three or four dicks a night. And hell, even if you don't get lucky and get no dick for the night, you still would have a good time shakin' ass on the dancefloor.

MrSoulpower said:

vainandy said:

Inside the homes of the cool people with good taste. As for publicly though....nowhere. The general public has lost it's taste and rhythm.

You couldn't be more wrong. You just have to look for it.

Well, I'm tired of looking for it and on the rare times that I do find it, I'm the only one that knows about it and the only one that wants to hear it. That means listening to it all by myself. Hell, that's masturbation.

SoulAlive said:

Something to keep in mind....just because you don't hear a style of music on the radio,doesn't mean that it's "dead".Disco,in fact,was an underground thing in the early 70s.It only became mainstream after 'Saturday Night Fever',then a few years later it went back into the underground again.But it's still there

What pisses me off is what disco has evolved into. It was great in the late 1980s/early 1990s when it evolved into house/dance. That truly sounded like a reincarnation of disco because it was mostly black/hispanic/gay and was full of rhythm. When more and more of the ethnic groups abandoned it and the whites and Europeans took over it, it lost most of it's danceable rhythm and most of it became that acid/trance type stuff that only someone on speed could hop around to because it's actually too fast to shake ass to. It just sounds kinda generic and depressing. Every song sounds just alike and most of it is just extremely fast instrumentals with no singing and the songs never change up during the song. You can put the needle anywhere in the song and it sounds the same all the way through.

What trips me out, is on the few rare occassions that I go to one of the two white gay clubs (I don't go to the black one anymore because they play shit hop) people rarely get on the dance floor. They all sit at and stand around the bar area most of the night and the dance floor remains empty most of the night. It is truly depressing. And when they do get on the dance floor, they aren't dancing, they are hopping around like rabbits on speed because, as I said before, it is sooooo fast that you couldn't shake ass to it even if you wanted to.

Also, I've noticed that it has been reduced to being generic background music. When they get on the dance floor, they aren't running to the dance floor hollering "Oooooh, that's my song" because they don't even know the name of the song or the artist that made it. In fact, they've never even heard the song before because it's not played on the radio or in music videos. Yeah, it's played in that club every single time they go but all the songs sound almost identical and if someone asks them to dance, they are just dancing to be sociable, not because they recognize and love the song. Like I said before, it's just generic background music in a social setting. It just really depresses me to the point that I hate to go out to the club because I feel like I'm in a place that "used to be something" but it ain't shit anymore. I feel like I'm in a ghost town with a bunch of mindless youngsters that don't really have tastes of their own on how to have fun but are just simply "going with the flow" of things. And also the fact that most of the people are in their 20s make me feel like a guy in high school that flunked a few years and got left back with a bunch of kids much younger than him.

vainandy said:

paisleypark4 said:

Not true..

I got to Elixer on Fridays and listen to slammin down funk by a Dj here in Minneapolis from 5 - 10pm

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Honey, I don't trust my totalled out car (that I'm still driving because I don't have the money for a car note each month) to make it across town, let alone to Minneapolis. Although, it might be worth taking a chance if you were there. But anyway, isn't that a straight club? Hell, I can't get no dick in a straight club so that don't do me no good.

But yeah, even down here, there may be a local unknown band that plays cover tunes. I still can't get that horrible image out of my head of that white boy in a club one night singing...."She's a very kinky girrrrrrrrrl, the kind you don't take home to motherrrrrr"....He sounded absolutely ridiculous. Hell, even a black person would have sounded rediculous because folks like Rick James or Prince simply cannot be duplicated by anyone else.

I've been to few places that might have a band that plays old cover tunes or even a band that plays their own stuff but the atmosphere is just not my kind of scene. These are usually uppitty adventurous "artsy" type crowds with an "appreciation for good music". Yeah, we get along with each other but they themselves really don't get down like we used to get down back in the day when funk was in the black mainstream. Ain't no real ass shakin' goin' on and there are very few black in the joints. Hell, that ain't no party, that's a music appreciation class. Also, it's always a straight atmosphere. Hell, I can't get no dick in no damned straight atmosphere. That's why, like I've always said, either funk, or something just as fun and uptempo as either funk, disco, or house needs to be back in the mainstream black world again because that means it will be everywhere, including the black gay clubs and people can start having fun again and getting three or four dicks a night. And hell, even if you don't get lucky and get no dick for the night, you still would have a good time shakin' ass on the dancefloor.

Elixer is about 80% black people that night, some fine white guys and some latinos too....and Andy, there be downlow men all over in the club, and it is definitley not uppity; but I know what you mean. It be packed in there..I always sweat up a storm because you cannot just sit when they play Evelyn King / Rick James and Chaka all at one time....its too much...sometimes they throw in 80's / early 90's hip hop too...but still I think you would like it.

As far as the bands go, they do a pretty good job funking it up even being a white band. Like I said though I know what you mean...me and you need to get out and have a good time, that would be fun as hell...I think you would CRACK ME UP if I hung out with you though. They mostly play funk in the straight bars like Bunkers, Visage and Elixer.

Black gay clubs here? it depends..mostly it is the Gay 90's which has the highest attendance of black gay men; however you may only hear old school in one room on the second level (the disco / old school room) but not alot of people stay in that are...then they have the r&b blacklight dark room but its mostly this generations hip hop & r&b.

MrSoulpower said:

Timmy84 said:

Funk comes in all varieties lol wish "Andy's type of funk" make a comeback.

I think his Funk is not organic enough to make a live comeback. But it's certainly not dead. You know my co-host runs a pretty popular Disco Funk series on our radio show .. a lot of people love that one, which shows me that it's definitely not dead.

But I agree, few people perform or record late 1970s/early 1980s Funk. The Funk revival focuses more on the late 1960s to mid-1970s sound.

Also, fan-communities in France and Japan have active club-nights or events with 80's boogiefunk. The Japanese reissue-market

has been active since the early 90's, when a number of rare 80's albums were already reissued. In recent years the European and

US market for those reissues has grown as well (boogie-times.com, dustygroove.com, funkytowngrooves.com, vinyl-masterpiece.com)

Various french musicians/singers such as Skalp, Suede, Magoo have been recording new work which is influenced by that genre.

Artists such as the BB&Q Band, Brass Construction, D-Train, Howard Johnson, Kashif, Melba Moore, Oliver Cheatham and a few

others have visited France for performing on party nights. A few friends of mine visited the night when Howard Johnson and Kashif

performed and they were surprised how much unfamiliar boogiefunk was spinned on the decks by the dj's in between live-sets.

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MrSoulpower said: Word!

In a humble act of self-promotion, allow me to add my own weekly radio show, which can be downloaded here: http://midnightsoulstice.podbean.com/

good luck with your shows

this thread....it should be a sticky fo the new funk