BTW, I DO think BEP will lose this case. Looks (and sounds) clear enough to me.

150 large per infraction? That's gonna be the sticking point.

JamFanHot said:

BTW, I DO think BEP will lose this case. Looks (and sounds) clear enough to me.

150 large per infraction? That's gonna be the sticking point.

I suppose it depends on what the actual story is about. And according to George, it's different than what we're hearing. In any event, I agree with you that samples are probably not worth the trouble of using them.

PDogz said:

JamFanHot said:

BTW, I DO think BEP will lose this case. Looks (and sounds) clear enough to me.

150 large per infraction? That's gonna be the sticking point.

I suppose it depends on what the actual story is about. And according to George, it's different than what we're hearing. In any event, I agree with you that samples are probably not worth the trouble of using them.

true, but I find it hard to believe GC would file the claim if he DID IN FACT clear the sample....so I'm assuming that part's true.

Then again, if NOT...that BEP shit was one hell of a LAME attepmt to "disguise" the sample.

JamFanHot said:

PDogz said:

I suppose it depends on what the actual story is about. And according to George, it's different than what we're hearing. In any event, I agree with you that samples are probably not worth the trouble of using them.

true, but I find it hard to believe GC would file the claim if he DID IN FACT clear the sample....so I'm assuming that part's true.

Then again, if NOT...that BEP shit was one hell of a LAME attepmt to "disguise" the sample.

Totally agree!

An original funkster suing a sell-out; yep, its Christmas!

Get' em, George!

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"y'all got my money?"

PDogz said:

Timmy84 said:

Shango said:

^ Sir Noze ^

Bootsy is Starchild

Oh yeah THAT'S RIGHT... maybe I should've said "Uncle Jam" or "Dr. Funkenstein".

George was Starchild and Sir Nose D'Voidoffunk.

Sorry...that part was buggin me.

And he was also Mr Wiggles the Worm!

He's going after Armen Boladian through a back door way.

It's one thing to sample your music, it's another thing to forge your signature, not pay you and not give you any credit for your own music.

How about George sample one of the Black Eyed Peas hits not pay them or give the credit.

StonedImmaculate said:

Timmy84 said:

Oh yeah THAT'S RIGHT... maybe I should've said "Uncle Jam" or "Dr. Funkenstein".

George was Starchild and Sir Nose D'Voidoffunk.

Sorry...that part was buggin me.

And he was also Mr Wiggles the Worm!

Wait...

I just realized something, George had a lot of names and yeah he DID call himself Starchild... I kept thinking I was stupid or something lol

Bootsy was Bootsy/Bootzilla actually lol

i cant stand artists that sample!!! right your own fucking music!! there dirty dancing song is a disgrace. swayze should haunt them for that

Timmy84 said:

StonedImmaculate said:

George was Starchild and Sir Nose D'Voidoffunk.

Sorry...that part was buggin me.

And he was also Mr Wiggles the Worm!

Wait...

I just realized something, George had a lot of names and yeah he DID call himself Starchild... I kept thinking I was stupid or something lol

Bootsy was Bootsy/Bootzilla actually lol

I think some of those names were interchangeable. I know for a fact Garry Shider was also referred to as Starchild, even live on stage with George Clinton standing there, as well as when they've eulogized him since his death (as they did when I just saw them play 3 weeks ago on Dec 3, 2010).

Bootsy has a ton of nicknames also: Starmon was another, as well as Casper (...not the friendly ghost, but the Holy Ghost... DIG!)

PDogz said:

Timmy84 said:

Wait...

I just realized something, George had a lot of names and yeah he DID call himself Starchild... I kept thinking I was stupid or something lol

Bootsy was Bootsy/Bootzilla actually lol

I think some of those names were interchangeable. I know for a fact Garry Shider was also referred to as Starchild, even live on stage with George Clinton standing there, as well as when they've eulogized him since his death (as they did when I just saw them play 3 weeks ago on Dec 3, 2010).

Bootsy has a ton of nicknames also: Starmon was another, as well as Casper (...not the friendly ghost, but the Holy Ghost... DIG!)

I forgot about Casper and Starmon. I think they were all "Starchildren" personally.

Timmy84 said:

PDogz said:

I think some of those names were interchangeable. I know for a fact Garry Shider was also referred to as Starchild, even live on stage with George Clinton standing there, as well as when they've eulogized him since his death (as they did when I just saw them play 3 weeks ago on Dec 3, 2010).

Bootsy has a ton of nicknames also: Starmon was another, as well as Casper (...not the friendly ghost, but the Holy Ghost... DIG!)

I forgot about Casper and Starmon. I think they were all "Starchildren" personally.

...definitely "other-worldly", lol

Timmy84 said:

StonedImmaculate said:

George was Starchild and Sir Nose D'Voidoffunk.

Sorry...that part was buggin me.

And he was also Mr Wiggles the Worm!

Wait...

I just realized something, George had a lot of names and yeah he DID call himself Starchild... I kept thinking I was stupid or something lol

Bootsy was Bootsy/Bootzilla actually lol

On the Casblanca recordings, George played all the characters: The Long-Haired Sucker, Sir Nose, Dr Funkenstein and even Starchild. On the Mothership tour, Garry Shider began to assume the role of Starchild and so it became his stage name and alter-ego. On the Placebo Syndrome tour Sir Nose was played by Larry Heckstall, but is currently portrayed by Carlos Mc Murray. Casper, Starmon, Bootzilla and Bootsy are all William Collins Jr all the time on stage and recording.

PFunkjazz said:

Timmy84 said:

Wait...

I just realized something, George had a lot of names and yeah he DID call himself Starchild... I kept thinking I was stupid or something lol

Bootsy was Bootsy/Bootzilla actually lol

On the Casblanca recordings, George played all the characters: The Long-Haired Sucker, Sir Nose, Dr Funkenstein and even Starchild. On the Mothership tour, Garry Shider began to assume the role of Starchild and so it became his stage name and alter-ego. On the Placebo Syndrome tour Sir Nose was played by Larry Heckstall, but is currently portrayed by Carlos Mc Murray. Casper, Starmon, Bootzilla and Bootsy are all William Collins Jr all the time on stage and recording.

Don't forget George as "Lollypop Man", lol.

PDogz said:

PFunkjazz said:

On the Casblanca recordings, George played all the characters: The Long-Haired Sucker, Sir Nose, Dr Funkenstein and even Starchild. On the Mothership tour, Garry Shider began to assume the role of Starchild and so it became his stage name and alter-ego. On the Placebo Syndrome tour Sir Nose was played by Larry Heckstall, but is currently portrayed by Carlos Mc Murray. Casper, Starmon, Bootzilla and Bootsy are all William Collins Jr all the time on stage and recording.

Don't forget George as "Lollypop Man", lol.

PFunkjazz said:

Timmy84 said:

Wait...

I just realized something, George had a lot of names and yeah he DID call himself Starchild... I kept thinking I was stupid or something lol

Bootsy was Bootsy/Bootzilla actually lol

On the Casblanca recordings, George played all the characters: The Long-Haired Sucker, Sir Nose, Dr Funkenstein and even Starchild. On the Mothership tour, Garry Shider began to assume the role of Starchild and so it became his stage name and alter-ego. On the Placebo Syndrome tour Sir Nose was played by Larry Heckstall, but is currently portrayed by Carlos Mc Murray. Casper, Starmon, Bootzilla and Bootsy are all William Collins Jr all the time on stage and recording.

Ah I gotcha now... thanks for giving me a clearer view.

paisleypark4 said:

PDogz said:

Don't forget George as "Lollypop Man", lol.

Aka The Long Haired Sucka I think he was Mr. Wiggles and Rumpofsteelskin right?

...and a few others that don't come to mind at the moment.

PFunkjazz said:

Timmy84 said:

Wait...

I just realized something, George had a lot of names and yeah he DID call himself Starchild... I kept thinking I was stupid or something lol

Bootsy was Bootsy/Bootzilla actually lol

On the Casblanca recordings, George played all the characters: The Long-Haired Sucker, Sir Nose, Dr Funkenstein and even Starchild. On the Mothership tour, Garry Shider began to assume the role of Starchild and so it became his stage name and alter-ego. On the Placebo Syndrome tour Sir Nose was played by Larry Heckstall, but is currently portrayed by Carlos Mc Murray. Casper, Starmon, Bootzilla and Bootsy are all William Collins Jr all the time on stage and recording.

Naw Garry never played Starchild on stage. George was Starchild hitting the stage and later returning as Dr. Funkenstein. Garry later assumed the nickname.

Thumparello said:

PFunkjazz said:

On the Casblanca recordings, George played all the characters: The Long-Haired Sucker, Sir Nose, Dr Funkenstein and even Starchild. On the Mothership tour, Garry Shider began to assume the role of Starchild and so it became his stage name and alter-ego. On the Placebo Syndrome tour Sir Nose was played by Larry Heckstall, but is currently portrayed by Carlos Mc Murray. Casper, Starmon, Bootzilla and Bootsy are all William Collins Jr all the time on stage and recording.

Naw Garry never played Starchild on stage. George was Starchild hitting the stage and later returning as Dr. Funkenstein. Garry later assumed the nickname.

Yeah. OK. That's probably more accurate, but the point is still the same. George originally played all the characters.

Will. i.am's whole career has been based on sampling. Can anyone cite an original piece of music that he or Kanye has created?

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Identity said:

Will. i.am's whole career has been based on sampling. Can anyone cite an original piece of music that he or Kanye has created?

[Edited 12/30/10 12:26pm]

No lol