^^^^^^^^^^^^ Twins.... | |
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^ aw cute, they do look like twins | |
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Michael has a crush on Beyonce, but isn't Janet annoyed with her for saying something about the whole family and comparing it to her own? I wonder what Michael thought of that, but I don't see him being annoyed with that as much, all he could do is see eye candy when he sees her | |
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I don't believe what Bey says about her family. If she had to go into hiding from her father in order to record B'Day - that says it all for me. I think her family are just as controlling, even now that she's married and almost 30 years old. | |
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I don't exactly think he's Ike Turner, but maybe over protective. | |
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MJ didn't have no crush on that girl
I also wonder what he thought when She threw shade at the Jackson family [Edited 2/7/11 11:57am] | |
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Maybe he didn't give her any haha rumor has it that he introduced her to Jay Z after they briefly saw each other and asked to dance with her at an industry part, and thought he would be a better fit for her...it was around 2001 | |
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only time will tell if beyonce will become legendary if her music will stand lets say 25 yrs from now or just pop music that was hot during 2000's- 2010's eras but i think some stars think she has the potential of being a pop icon/legend
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hey wasn't that j.lo in the 1993 mtv perforrmance janet did , the one in the black jacket by tina landon | |
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Beyonce is half way there already. | |
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Well, Bey has nice gaps also with her solo work: DIL(2003), B'day(2006), IASF(2008) and if or when she puts out her next work it will be at least 3 years after IASF.
Also, since Bey has won a Grammy with ALL three of her albums, even if you don't consider her music classic, it is already considered one by her peers pretty much. It will be a part of her legacy discussing her music(and entertainment experts WILL discuss her music) the same way people discuss Control, RN1812, Janet and VR.
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It's 1997 actually(No, No, No Part 2 was their first big hit back). Look, of course Janet has more longevity, she's older while Bey is more contemporary. But Bey's pretty much her generation's standard bearer for mainstream entertainment. Especially as a black mainstream entertainer. I mean, that's evident which is why I don't understand why this is debate. I mean, I don't like Madonna but her legacy speaks for itself. | |
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You're not getting the point . Who is Beyonce's Rival?Rihanna?Lady Gaga? Notice how none of the have no where near as much talent as Janet in her 40's! Let alone her prime!
You said Every Beyonce's 3 albums have won a grammy? Janet's First 3 albums made HISTORY. Control has the most AMA nominations.(11) Rhythm Nation has the most Top 5 singles WHICH cause her to have won the most billboard awards in one night for female artist. "Janet" was the first album to debut at 1 during the soundscan era.
Btw Janet has been out for 30yrs, Beyonce has only been out for 9 yrs. She went solo in 2003 right? | |
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BEYONCE HAS 16 GRAMMYS. ONLY ALISON KRAUSS AND QUEEN 'RETHA HAVE MORE AMONG FEMALE ARTISTS. AND SHE'S ONLY 29. | |
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But I say the same thing about Beyoncé and it seems people want to come for her song-writing. This board especially want to see her as this bimbo and puppet even if it is not true. BTW, as have been said before, Bey's lane is (RE)ARRANGEMENTS. Harmonic arrangement, she DOES produce, everyone talks about how great her ear is. Yet even with all of this, people will not give her cred for anything. One post calls her p-popper and even though she does do it, she's more than that. That's one of the reasons why she has so many fans/stans. | |
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But I don't consider Rihanna and Gaga peers with Bey at all. Bey's peers are Brandy, Monica, Alicia(she came out in 1997), Mya and every female teen act who came out in the 90s and Bey, going back to her DC days, has been the most successful out of all the time and has been consistent with it. In fact, Toni Braxton made this very point: http://www.youtube.com/wa...urMgMOmo08 (listen to the beginning of the video, especially).
So you're not getting the point. No one is debating Janet's legacy, the point is that Bey has a legacy of her own and is for her generation what Janet and etc was for my generation. You assume that I am saying, Bey>>>Janet in terms of legacy. I don't say that, but that don't take away for what Bey has been to her generation. It's sad that people of my generation don't want to give artist who are doing their thing for their generation their due. | |
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Definitely. Nonetheless, I would like to hear Beyonce cover some of Janet's hit songs one day, as she has with a few of Michael's. Janet's music accompanied by Beyonce's style of singing would be an interesting combination.
Oh, and on a side note, regardless of her present condition, all people who call The Voice "shitney" intrinsically lose all credibility as contemporary vocal experts/historians/whatever. Even Beyonce herself, as much as I love her power, still can't even compare to Whitney Houston in her prime. The only ones who have come close were Mariah, and now Jennifer Hudson, but also still did not/will not ascend over Whitney Houston vocally, ESPECIALLY not live onstage. All opinions aside, anyone who has actually studied these artists would know this. "You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
"Water can nourish me, but water can also carry me. Water has magic laws." - JCVD | |
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She only did that so that she wouldn't have to deal with deadlines(you should know that many times, labels force their artists to release work to get out of contracts with them because artists are usually contracted by the album), and not be pressure. Her dad was still an executive producer on B'day along with her, so it is not like that.
Her point really was that people tend to compare every black family that is entertainment to the Jackson story. You know, doing entertainment to get out of poverty. The stereotype of every black person who plays sports or does entertainment and is a pro at it. She could have articulated it better, but I got her point. If anything, it was comparing her dad(who had money) to Joe Jackson(who was working in a steel mill and had to support 8 children) and that could have been incidency except Joe was at one of Bey's concerts at the Wynn long after that statement by her. So I don't think he thought it was a big deal and Janet being mad at the statement was a rumor, just like supposedly Solange addressing that. | |
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Whitney had the best instrument, but I think Ella, Aretha, and Babs would disagree with you in terms of vocals because they had more musicianship than Whitney and knew how to use their voice better. And I could name Sarah, Dinah, Billie and Nina also if I want to. But Whitney had the best instrument vocally though. | |
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12 years is not half of 30 years. [Edited 2/7/11 16:19pm] "Get up off that grey line" | |
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I disagree. Maybe not the 80s, but she would have been just fine in the 90s. Remember Aaliyah? Janet had no affect on her career and popularity (and A. was actually reminiscent of Janet). So really, what would have been the difference, except for the advantageous fact that Beyonce sings and performs stronger than Aailyah did [no disrespect]?
And why are people still comparing these two anyway? They are not similar. If anybody of present times, this thread should be about Janet and Ciara. Then, you've got a valid argument. "You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
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That's not true. There is a lot of talent in this decade. There is just not a lot of artist who have Bey's skill set meaning, the ability to sing and dance extremely well.
Just like there were a lot of artists who could do what Janet did and trust me, labels tried to find them. If Bey was in the 60s(for example), she would be Berry Gordy's wet dream because she can sing EXTREMELY WELL, has marketable looks and her drive is stellar. If she came out in the 70s, that era would perfect. We(her fans) always joke that she came out in the wrong era, her sound especially is influenced by the 70s with a contemporary modern flava. She would hold her own then too. And would in the 80s because she might be the best vocalist, but she's very good at it and she's not the best dancer, but she's great at that and the 80s and 90s is the era of the video artist and since her image is marketable, she would thrive in that era also(if she came out at say, 22). | |
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Either way nobody compares the Knowles to the Jacksons. The Jacksons is a family that has made an impact on music from the 60's all the way to the 10's. A family with talented artists, singers, songwriters and producers. The Knowles is just a family with a successful daughter and flopped clothing label. | |
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Nope, it's 14: 1997–2001: Destiny's Child eraMain article: Destiny's Child
The group changed its name to Destiny's Child in 1993, based on a passage in the Book of Isaiah.[22] Together, they performed in local events and, after four years on the road, the group was signed to Columbia Records in late 1997. That same year, Destiny's Child recorded its major label début song, "Killing Time", for the soundtrack to the 1997 film, Men in Black.[22][24] The following year, the group released its self-titled debut album,[23] scoring their first major hit "No, No, No". That album established the group as a viable act in the music industry, amassing moderate sales and winning the group three Soul Train Lady of Soul Awards for "Best R&B/Soul Single" for "No, No, No", "Best R&B/Soul Album of the Year" and "Best R&B/Soul or Rap New Artist".[22] The group released their multi-platinum second album The Writing's on the Wall in 1999. The record features some of the group's most widely known songs such as "Bills, Bills, Bills", the group's first number-one single, "Jumpin' Jumpin'", and "Say My Name", which became their most-successful song at the time, and would remain one of their signature songs. "Say My Name" won the Best R&B Performance by a Duo or Group with Vocals and the Best R&B Song at the 2001 Grammy Awards.[22]The Writing's on the Wall sold more than eight million copies.[23] http://en.wikipedia.org/w...é_Knowles
That's about half of 30. And you're going to need to strengthen your argument because janet has been performing PROFESSIONALLY since 76(That's about 35 years). | |
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Exactly. You've proven my point. [Edited 2/7/11 16:42pm] "Get up off that grey line" | |
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You so crazay! "Get up off that grey line" | |
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LMAO, I'm having so much fun here. Alright Lets get started. We Are comparing Janet and Beyonce NOT Janet and DC. Janet wasnt in a group. Beyonce Started As A Solo artist In 2003, SO, Her competitors are what I just Highlighted.Dont nobody care about those hand out grammys . She doesnt have the Most period.Janet Has The most Billboard awards PERIOD. And those are pretty hard to get.Thirdly, Toni Braxton already said that She was inspired By Janet.
So the Debate is pretty void. Janet was an artist BEFORE Beyonce was in diapers. [Edited 2/7/11 16:56pm] [Edited 2/7/11 16:59pm] [Edited 2/7/11 17:00pm] | |
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How are you posting those? I have a few comparisons myself. | |
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If you mean how do you post vids, this is the example:
[youtube]Youtube Page[/youtube]
You then copy the whole thing, click on the chain link up top, and paste it in the insert box
Here are a couple more vids I'd like to share
Pay close attention to 1:03-1:36
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