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Reply #150 posted 02/06/11 7:50pm

TotalAlisa

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^^^^^^^^^^^^ Twins....

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Reply #151 posted 02/07/11 2:54am

alphastreet

^ aw cute, they do look like twins smile

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Reply #152 posted 02/07/11 2:58am

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ThePopLover2 said:

purplesweat said:

lol Beyonce's career is already 14 years long, she's performed with Prince, Janet's bro had a serious crush on her, performed for the first ever black President and is the most successful artist of the 2000s decade. Janet? Hasn't been relevant since the mid 90s and is famous to the new generations only for Boobgate yawn There's no point in comparing the two when one isn't releasing music steadily or performing regularly.

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Reply #153 posted 02/07/11 3:16am

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Michael has a crush on Beyonce, but isn't Janet annoyed with her for saying something about the whole family and comparing it to her own? I wonder what Michael thought of that, but I don't see him being annoyed with that as much, all he could do is see eye candy when he sees her smile

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Reply #154 posted 02/07/11 3:23am

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Michael has a crush on Beyonce, but isn't Janet annoyed with her for saying something about the whole family and comparing it to her own? I wonder what Michael thought of that, but I don't see him being annoyed with that as much, all he could do is see eye candy when he sees her smile

I don't believe what Bey says about her family. If she had to go into hiding from her father in order to record B'Day - that says it all for me. I think her family are just as controlling, even now that she's married and almost 30 years old.

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Reply #155 posted 02/07/11 3:35am

alphastreet

purplesweat said:

alphastreet said:

Michael has a crush on Beyonce, but isn't Janet annoyed with her for saying something about the whole family and comparing it to her own? I wonder what Michael thought of that, but I don't see him being annoyed with that as much, all he could do is see eye candy when he sees her smile

I don't believe what Bey says about her family. If she had to go into hiding from her father in order to record B'Day - that says it all for me. I think her family are just as controlling, even now that she's married and almost 30 years old.

I don't exactly think he's Ike Turner, but maybe over protective.

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Reply #156 posted 02/07/11 11:56am

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Michael has a crush on Beyonce, but isn't Janet annoyed with her for saying something about the whole family and comparing it to her own? I wonder what Michael thought of that, but I don't see him being annoyed with that as much, all he could do is see eye candy when he sees her smile

MJ didn't have no crush on that girl hmph!

I also wonder what he thought when She threw shade at the Jackson family lol

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Reply #157 posted 02/07/11 11:59am

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Maybe he didn't give her any wink haha rumor has it that he introduced her to Jay Z after they briefly saw each other and asked to dance with her at an industry part, and thought he would be a better fit for her...it was around 2001

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Reply #158 posted 02/07/11 12:28pm

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only time will tell if beyonce will become legendary if her music will stand lets say 25 yrs from now or just pop music that was hot during 2000's- 2010's eras but i think some stars think she has the potential of being a pop icon/legend

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Reply #159 posted 02/07/11 3:03pm

HAPPYPERSON

hey wasn't that j.lo in the 1993 mtv perforrmance janet did , the one in the black jacket by tina landon

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Reply #160 posted 02/07/11 3:16pm

Curtwill1975

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purplesweat said:

Cuz she's an artist that didn't release music in the 80s and is still/currently relevant. smile

Oh please, Beyonce had better pray that she can have a 30-plus year old career. Janet is an icon. Beyonce is a pop idol still in training.

Beyonce is half way there already.

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Reply #161 posted 02/07/11 3:28pm

Curtwill1975

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alphastreet said:

well in all fairness, Janet was being called a legend too during the top of her game in a short period...and Beyonce, though with lower sales numbers due to the industry changing, in all fairness has 3 hit albums in a row like Janet did with Control, RN, Janet being her commercial peak, though she had more hits than that for sometime and kept putting out IMO good music.

I guess the difference is Janet had HUGE gaps in between her album

Control-Rhythm Nation(3 year gap) Rhythm Nation-Janet(4 year gap)

Another difference is Rhythm Nation1814,Control, and Janet are consired "Classic".

"Dangerous in love","B-day", and "I..am" aren't really what I would consider...Classic wink

Well, Bey has nice gaps also with her solo work: DIL(2003), B'day(2006), IASF(2008) and if or when she puts out her next work it will be at least 3 years after IASF.

Also, since Bey has won a Grammy with ALL three of her albums, even if you don't consider her music classic, it is already considered one by her peers pretty much. It will be a part of her legacy discussing her music(and entertainment experts WILL discuss her music) the same way people discuss Control, RN1812, Janet and VR.

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Reply #162 posted 02/07/11 3:34pm

Curtwill1975

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alphastreet said:

I was like you about Beyonce, but she's in been in the game for 14 years now, let's see what plays out this decade before making an assessment like that. I thought she would fade too with her first album cause it was so different from her group work, but she's still here and improved IMO since then.

I knew that about Janet coming up with those songs that way, but it's good to read it again smile

Not saying that Beyonce doesn't have a chance, but Destiny's Child exploded in 1999. That was twelve years ago. She still has another couple of decades to go before she can say she's been in the biz as long as Janet has today. If she keeps going the way she's going, she does stand a chance, but I just had to put Free2BMe in check. lol

It's 1997 actually(No, No, No Part 2 was their first big hit back). Look, of course Janet has more longevity, she's older while Bey is more contemporary. But Bey's pretty much her generation's standard bearer for mainstream entertainment. Especially as a black mainstream entertainer. I mean, that's evident which is why I don't understand why this is debate. I mean, I don't like Madonna but her legacy speaks for itself.

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Reply #163 posted 02/07/11 3:35pm

ThePopLover2

Curtwill1975 said:

ThePopLover2 said:

I guess the difference is Janet had HUGE gaps in between her album

Control-Rhythm Nation(3 year gap) Rhythm Nation-Janet(4 year gap)

Another difference is Rhythm Nation1814,Control, and Janet are consired "Classic".

"Dangerous in love","B-day", and "I..am" aren't really what I would consider...Classic wink

Well, Bey has nice gaps also with her solo work: DIL(2003), B'day(2006), IASF(2008) and if or when she puts out her next work it will be at least 3 years after IASF.

Also, since Bey has won a Grammy with ALL three of her albums, even if you don't consider her music classic, it is already considered one by her peers pretty much. It will be a part of her legacy discussing her music(and entertainment experts WILL discuss her music) the same way people discuss Control, RN1812, Janet and VR.

You're not getting the point lol . Who is Beyonce's Rival?Rihanna?Lady Gaga? Notice how none of the have no where near as much talent as Janet in her 40's! Let alone her prime!

You said Every Beyonce's 3 albums have won a grammy? Janet's First 3 albums made HISTORY.

Control has the most AMA nominations.(11)

Rhythm Nation has the most Top 5 singles WHICH cause her to have won the most billboard awards in one night for female artist.

"Janet" was the first album to debut at 1 during the soundscan era.

Btw Janet has been out for 30yrs, Beyonce has only been out for 9 yrs. She went solo in 2003 right?

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Reply #164 posted 02/07/11 3:43pm

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ThePopLover2 said:

Curtwill1975 said:

Well, Bey has nice gaps also with her solo work: DIL(2003), B'day(2006), IASF(2008) and if or when she puts out her next work it will be at least 3 years after IASF.

Also, since Bey has won a Grammy with ALL three of her albums, even if you don't consider her music classic, it is already considered one by her peers pretty much. It will be a part of her legacy discussing her music(and entertainment experts WILL discuss her music) the same way people discuss Control, RN1812, Janet and VR.

You're not getting the point lol . Who is Beyonce's Rival?Rihanna?Lady Gaga? Notice how none of the have no where near as much talent as Janet in her 40's! Let alone her prime!

You said Every Beyonce's 3 albums have won a grammy? Janet's First 3 albums made HISTORY.

Control has the most AMA nominations.(11)

Rhythm Nation has the most Top 5 singles WHICH cause her to have won the most billboard awards in one night for female artist.

"Janet" was the first album to debut at 1 during the soundscan era.

Btw Janet has been out for 30yrs, Beyonce has only been out for 9 yrs. She went solo in 2003 right?

BEYONCE HAS 16 GRAMMYS. ONLY ALISON KRAUSS AND QUEEN 'RETHA HAVE MORE AMONG FEMALE ARTISTS. AND SHE'S ONLY 29.

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Reply #165 posted 02/07/11 3:47pm

Curtwill1975

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Well, I didn't say that B was a "Janet Clone". That would be your Britneys, Ciaras and the like. I did note that B has given Janet props on more than one occasion, which shows Janet's influence on her. I'm not taking anything away from Beyonce, because what she's managed to accomplish in her career is great, but, to me, she has got to be in the game for a really long time as a solo artist in order to equal J. People are too quick nowadays to throw around the term "legend" and "icon". It seems that all an artist has to do is release a few #1 hits and videos, and have a million views on Youtube and suddenly they're an "icon". It takes years of being in the business, and the ability to be able to reflect on a longstanding career to be able to say that about an artist.

About Janet's involvement in the songwriting process, she really does write a lot of her own stuff. She penned several of her most famous songs alone and/or co-created the melodies with JJ and TL. Elizondo started giving some input later on, but to what extent, who knows? Jimmy even stated in an interview around the time that Rene was making songwriting claims that he "never saw Rene hanging around with a pad and pencil" during the songwriting process. Janet also later said that, in the beginning, she wanted to give Rene credit for whatever his input was, but he never wanted it. It wasn't until TVR album that he accepted credit for whatever he did. Janet wrote Black Cat by herself, and co-produced it with Jellybean Johnson. She wrote All for You while JJ and TL created the music. She wrote That's The Way Love Goes, and came up with the melody for If. Alot of songs that were never released as singles she wrote, like Whoops Now, Can't Be Stopped etc. She's not the puppet a lot of folks make her out to be.

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I agree with everything you are saying, keep it up! Even though I've been praising Beyonce too, I thought it was arrogant when she was saying in interviews early in her solo career that she wants to become an icon and things like that. IMO you don't SAY stuff like that, it's arrogant and cocky, it's something you keep to yourself if that's your long term goal, instead, in the words of janet, just be yourself and let that be your guide.

I remember the All For You era interview too where she talked about the songwriting process, I think she may have mentioned how she wrote Come On Get Up and Someone to Call My Lover as well. And Janet said that too in an interview about him not wanting credit. I knew someone was going to say Jimmy is BS-ing, but what's in it for him to lie about that? I think it's because Janet is a female and a dance artist that she doesn't get enough credit for all the musical styles she does. Even Michael himself said that people look at his dancing and forget that he's involved with the music video direction or songwriting.

But I say the same thing about Beyoncé and it seems people want to come for her song-writing. This board especially want to see her as this bimbo and puppet even if it is not true. BTW, as have been said before, Bey's lane is (RE)ARRANGEMENTS. Harmonic arrangement, she DOES produce, everyone talks about how great her ear is. Yet even with all of this, people will not give her cred for anything. One post calls her p-popper and even though she does do it, she's more than that. That's one of the reasons why she has so many fans/stans.

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Reply #166 posted 02/07/11 3:58pm

Curtwill1975

ThePopLover2 said:

Curtwill1975 said:

Well, Bey has nice gaps also with her solo work: DIL(2003), B'day(2006), IASF(2008) and if or when she puts out her next work it will be at least 3 years after IASF.

Also, since Bey has won a Grammy with ALL three of her albums, even if you don't consider her music classic, it is already considered one by her peers pretty much. It will be a part of her legacy discussing her music(and entertainment experts WILL discuss her music) the same way people discuss Control, RN1812, Janet and VR.

You're not getting the point lol . Who is Beyonce's Rival?Rihanna?Lady Gaga? Notice how none of the have no where near as much talent as Janet in her 40's! Let alone her prime!

You said Every Beyonce's 3 albums have won a grammy? Janet's First 3 albums made HISTORY.

Control has the most AMA nominations.(11)

Rhythm Nation has the most Top 5 singles WHICH cause her to have won the most billboard awards in one night for female artist.

"Janet" was the first album to debut at 1 during the soundscan era.

Btw Janet has been out for 30yrs, Beyonce has only been out for 9 yrs. She went solo in 2003 right?

But I don't consider Rihanna and Gaga peers with Bey at all. Bey's peers are Brandy, Monica, Alicia(she came out in 1997), Mya and every female teen act who came out in the 90s and Bey, going back to her DC days, has been the most successful out of all the time and has been consistent with it. In fact, Toni Braxton made this very point: http://www.youtube.com/wa...urMgMOmo08 (listen to the beginning of the video, especially).

So you're not getting the point. No one is debating Janet's legacy, the point is that Bey has a legacy of her own and is for her generation what Janet and etc was for my generation. You assume that I am saying, Bey>>>Janet in terms of legacy. I don't say that, but that don't take away for what Bey has been to her generation. It's sad that people of my generation don't want to give artist who are doing their thing for their generation their due.

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Reply #167 posted 02/07/11 4:05pm

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Yeah I agree I see more michael than janet in Beyonce's influences and talent.

Definitely. nod Nonetheless, I would like to hear Beyonce cover some of Janet's hit songs one day, as she has with a few of Michael's. Janet's music accompanied by Beyonce's style of singing would be an interesting combination. hmmm

Oh, and on a side note, regardless of her present condition, all people who call The Voice "shitney" intrinsically lose all credibility as contemporary vocal experts/historians/whatever. Even Beyonce herself, as much as I love her power, still can't even compare to Whitney Houston in her prime. The only ones who have come close were Mariah, and now Jennifer Hudson, but also still did not/will not ascend over Whitney Houston vocally, ESPECIALLY not live onstage. All opinions aside, anyone who has actually studied these artists would know this.

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Reply #168 posted 02/07/11 4:07pm

Curtwill1975

purplesweat said:

alphastreet said:

Michael has a crush on Beyonce, but isn't Janet annoyed with her for saying something about the whole family and comparing it to her own? I wonder what Michael thought of that, but I don't see him being annoyed with that as much, all he could do is see eye candy when he sees her smile

I don't believe what Bey says about her family. If she had to go into hiding from her father in order to record B'Day - that says it all for me. I think her family are just as controlling, even now that she's married and almost 30 years old.

She only did that so that she wouldn't have to deal with deadlines(you should know that many times, labels force their artists to release work to get out of contracts with them because artists are usually contracted by the album), and not be pressure. Her dad was still an executive producer on B'day along with her, so it is not like that.

Her point really was that people tend to compare every black family that is entertainment to the Jackson story. You know, doing entertainment to get out of poverty. The stereotype of every black person who plays sports or does entertainment and is a pro at it. She could have articulated it better, but I got her point. If anything, it was comparing her dad(who had money) to Joe Jackson(who was working in a steel mill and had to support 8 children) and that could have been incidency except Joe was at one of Bey's concerts at the Wynn long after that statement by her. So I don't think he thought it was a big deal and Janet being mad at the statement was a rumor, just like supposedly Solange addressing that.

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Reply #169 posted 02/07/11 4:11pm

Curtwill1975

WaterInYourBath said:

alphastreet said:

Yeah I agree I see more michael than janet in Beyonce's influences and talent.

Definitely. nod Nonetheless, I would like to hear Beyonce cover some of Janet's hit songs one day, as she has with a few of Michael's. Janet's music accompanied by Beyonce's style of singing would be an interesting combination. hmmm

Oh, and on a side note, regardless of her present condition, all people who call The Voice "shitney" intrinsically lose all credibility as contemporary vocal experts/historians/whatever. Even Beyonce herself, as much as I love her power, still can't even compare to Whitney Houston in her prime. The only ones who have come close were Mariah, and now Jennifer Hudson, but also still did not/will not ascend over Whitney Houston vocally, ESPECIALLY not live onstage. All opinions aside, anyone who has actually studied these artists would know this.

Whitney had the best instrument, but I think Ella, Aretha, and Babs would disagree with you in terms of vocals because they had more musicianship than Whitney and knew how to use their voice better. And I could name Sarah, Dinah, Billie and Nina also if I want to. But Whitney had the best instrument vocally though.

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Reply #170 posted 02/07/11 4:18pm

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Curtwill1975 said:

SEANMAN said:

Oh please, Beyonce had better pray that she can have a 30-plus year old career. Janet is an icon. Beyonce is a pop idol still in training.

Beyonce is half way there already.

12 years is not half of 30 years. lol

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Reply #171 posted 02/07/11 4:23pm

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beyonce is only considered the most talent of this decade because the artist of this decade have NO real talent..

beyonce alone would NOT have survived the 90s or 80s because she would be competing with janet jackson at her peak....

janet jackson HAS ZERO to prove, even with her albums of 2000s not being successful she already accomplished a lot musically.... beyonce is still trying to get where janet is...

I disagree. Maybe not the 80s, but she would have been just fine in the 90s. Remember Aaliyah? Janet had no affect on her career and popularity (and A. was actually reminiscent of Janet). So really, what would have been the difference, except for the advantageous fact that Beyonce sings and performs stronger than Aailyah did [no disrespect]?

And why are people still comparing these two anyway? They are not similar. If anybody of present times, this thread should be about Janet and Ciara. Then, you've got a valid argument.

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Reply #172 posted 02/07/11 4:25pm

Curtwill1975

TotalAlisa said:

Beyonce is only considered the most talent of this decade because the artist of this decade have NO real talent..

Beyonce alone would NOT have survived the 90s or 80s because she would be competing with janet jackson at her peak....

janet jackson HAS ZERO to prove, even with her albums of 2000s not being successful she already accomplished a lot musically.... beyonce is still trying to get where janet is...

That's not true. There is a lot of talent in this decade. There is just not a lot of artist who have Bey's skill set meaning, the ability to sing and dance extremely well.

Just like there were a lot of artists who could do what Janet did and trust me, labels tried to find them. If Bey was in the 60s(for example), she would be Berry Gordy's wet dream because she can sing EXTREMELY WELL, has marketable looks and her drive is stellar. If she came out in the 70s, that era would perfect. We(her fans) always joke that she came out in the wrong era, her sound especially is influenced by the 70s with a contemporary modern flava. She would hold her own then too. And would in the 80s because she might be the best vocalist, but she's very good at it and she's not the best dancer, but she's great at that and the 80s and 90s is the era of the video artist and since her image is marketable, she would thrive in that era also(if she came out at say, 22).

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Reply #173 posted 02/07/11 4:31pm

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Curtwill1975 said:

purplesweat said:

I don't believe what Bey says about her family. If she had to go into hiding from her father in order to record B'Day - that says it all for me. I think her family are just as controlling, even now that she's married and almost 30 years old.

She only did that so that she wouldn't have to deal with deadlines(you should know that many times, labels force their artists to release work to get out of contracts with them because artists are usually contracted by the album), and not be pressure. Her dad was still an executive producer on B'day along with her, so it is not like that.

Her point really was that people tend to compare every black family that is entertainment to the Jackson story. You know, doing entertainment to get out of poverty. The stereotype of every black person who plays sports or does entertainment and is a pro at it. She could have articulated it better, but I got her point. If anything, it was comparing her dad(who had money) to Joe Jackson(who was working in a steel mill and had to support 8 children) and that could have been incidency except Joe was at one of Bey's concerts at the Wynn long after that statement by her. So I don't think he thought it was a big deal and Janet being mad at the statement was a rumor, just like supposedly Solange addressing that.

Either way nobody compares the Knowles to the Jacksons. The Jacksons is a family that has made an impact on music from the 60's all the way to the 10's. A family with talented artists, singers, songwriters and producers. The Knowles is just a family with a successful daughter and flopped clothing label. lol

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Reply #174 posted 02/07/11 4:34pm

Curtwill1975

SEANMAN said:

Curtwill1975 said:

Beyonce is half way there already.

12 years is not half of 30 years. lol

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Nope, it's 14:

1997–2001: Destiny's Child era

Destiny's Child star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame.

The group changed its name to Destiny's Child in 1993, based on a passage in the Book of Isaiah.[22] Together, they performed in local events and, after four years on the road, the group was signed to Columbia Records in late 1997. That same year, Destiny's Child recorded its major label début song, "Killing Time", for the soundtrack to the 1997 film, Men in Black.[22][24] The following year, the group released its self-titled debut album,[23] scoring their first major hit "No, No, No". That album established the group as a viable act in the music industry, amassing moderate sales and winning the group three Soul Train Lady of Soul Awards for "Best R&B/Soul Single" for "No, No, No", "Best R&B/Soul Album of the Year" and "Best R&B/Soul or Rap New Artist".[22] The group released their multi-platinum second album The Writing's on the Wall in 1999. The record features some of the group's most widely known songs such as "Bills, Bills, Bills", the group's first number-one single, "Jumpin' Jumpin'", and "Say My Name", which became their most-successful song at the time, and would remain one of their signature songs. "Say My Name" won the Best R&B Performance by a Duo or Group with Vocals and the Best R&B Song at the 2001 Grammy Awards.[22]The Writing's on the Wall sold more than eight million copies.[23]

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...é_Knowles

That's about half of 30. And you're going to need to strengthen your argument because janet has been performing PROFESSIONALLY since 76(That's about 35 years).

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Reply #175 posted 02/07/11 4:41pm

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Curtwill1975 said:

SEANMAN said:

12 years is not half of 30 years. lol

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Nope, it's 14:

1997–2001: Destiny's Child era

Destiny's Child star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame.

The group changed its name to Destiny's Child in 1993, based on a passage in the Book of Isaiah.[22] Together, they performed in local events and, after four years on the road, the group was signed to Columbia Records in late 1997. That same year, Destiny's Child recorded its major label début song, "Killing Time", for the soundtrack to the 1997 film, Men in Black.[22][24] The following year, the group released its self-titled debut album,[23] scoring their first major hit "No, No, No". That album established the group as a viable act in the music industry, amassing moderate sales and winning the group three Soul Train Lady of Soul Awards for "Best R&B/Soul Single" for "No, No, No", "Best R&B/Soul Album of the Year" and "Best R&B/Soul or Rap New Artist".[22] The group released their multi-platinum second album The Writing's on the Wall in 1999. The record features some of the group's most widely known songs such as "Bills, Bills, Bills", the group's first number-one single, "Jumpin' Jumpin'", and "Say My Name", which became their most-successful song at the time, and would remain one of their signature songs. "Say My Name" won the Best R&B Performance by a Duo or Group with Vocals and the Best R&B Song at the 2001 Grammy Awards.[22]The Writing's on the Wall sold more than eight million copies.[23]

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...é_Knowles

That's about half of 30. And you're going to need to strengthen your argument because janet has been performing PROFESSIONALLY since 76(That's about 35 years).

Exactly. You've proven my point.

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Reply #176 posted 02/07/11 4:43pm

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midiscover said:

Curtwill1975 said:

She only did that so that she wouldn't have to deal with deadlines(you should know that many times, labels force their artists to release work to get out of contracts with them because artists are usually contracted by the album), and not be pressure. Her dad was still an executive producer on B'day along with her, so it is not like that.

Her point really was that people tend to compare every black family that is entertainment to the Jackson story. You know, doing entertainment to get out of poverty. The stereotype of every black person who plays sports or does entertainment and is a pro at it. She could have articulated it better, but I got her point. If anything, it was comparing her dad(who had money) to Joe Jackson(who was working in a steel mill and had to support 8 children) and that could have been incidency except Joe was at one of Bey's concerts at the Wynn long after that statement by her. So I don't think he thought it was a big deal and Janet being mad at the statement was a rumor, just like supposedly Solange addressing that.

Either way nobody compares the Knowles to the Jacksons. The Jacksons is a family that has made an impact on music from the 60's all the way to the 10's. A family with talented artists, singers, songwriters and producers. The Knowles is just a family with a successful daughter and flopped clothing label. lol

You so crazay!

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Reply #177 posted 02/07/11 4:55pm

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Curtwill1975 said:

ThePopLover2 said:

You're not getting the point lol . Who is Beyonce's Rival?Rihanna?Lady Gaga? Notice how none of the have no where near as much talent as Janet in her 40's! Let alone her prime!

You said Every Beyonce's 3 albums have won a grammy? Janet's First 3 albums made HISTORY.

Control has the most AMA nominations.(11)

Rhythm Nation has the most Top 5 singles WHICH cause her to have won the most billboard awards in one night for female artist.

"Janet" was the first album to debut at 1 during the soundscan era.

Btw Janet has been out for 30yrs, Beyonce has only been out for 9 yrs. She went solo in 2003 right?

But I don't consider Rihanna and Gaga peers with Bey at all. Bey's peers are Brandy, Monica, Alicia(she came out in 1997), Mya and every female teen act who came out in the 90s and Bey, going back to her DC days, has been the most successful out of all the time and has been consistent with it. In fact, Toni Braxton made this very point: http://www.youtube.com/wa...urMgMOmo08 (listen to the beginning of the video, especially).

So you're not getting the point. No one is debating Janet's legacy, the point is that Bey has a legacy of her own and is for her generation what Janet and etc was for my generation. You assume that I am saying, Bey>>>Janet in terms of legacy. I don't say that, but that don't take away for what Bey has been to her generation. It's sad that people of my generation don't want to give artist who are doing their thing for their generation their due.

LMAO, I'm having so much fun here. Alright Lets get started. We Are comparing Janet and Beyonce NOT Janet and DC. Janet wasnt in a group. Beyonce Started As A Solo artist In 2003, SO, Her competitors are what I just Highlighted.Dont nobody care about those hand out grammys lol .

She doesnt have the Most period.Janet Has The most Billboard awards PERIOD. And those are pretty hard to get.Thirdly, Toni Braxton already said that She was inspired By Janet.

So the Debate is pretty void. Janet was an artist BEFORE Beyonce was in diapers.

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Reply #178 posted 02/07/11 4:57pm

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SEANMAN said:

musicjunky318 said:

Why not?

lol Ya'll know this thread may soon become history due to it being yet another Janet thread. Anyway, Janet's influence reaches way back. She has been in the industry for over 30 years (longer than Beyonce has been alive) and has set records that haven't been broken. Not taking anything away from B, because she is doing her thing and doing it well, but she's got a while before she can catch up to Janet. Here are some videos over the years that were inspired in some way, shape or form by Janet videos:

How are you posting those? I have a few comparisons myself.

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Reply #179 posted 02/07/11 6:10pm

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SEANMAN said:

lol Ya'll know this thread may soon become history due to it being yet another Janet thread. Anyway, Janet's influence reaches way back. She has been in the industry for over 30 years (longer than Beyonce has been alive) and has set records that haven't been broken. Not taking anything away from B, because she is doing her thing and doing it well, but she's got a while before she can catch up to Janet. Here are some videos over the years that were inspired in some way, shape or form by Janet videos:

How are you posting those? I have a few comparisons myself.

If you mean how do you post vids, this is the example:

[youtube]Youtube Page[/youtube]

You then copy the whole thing, click on the chain link up top, and paste it in the insert box

Here are a couple more vids I'd like to share

Pay close attention to 1:03-1:36

"Get up off that grey line"
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