thesexofit said:

Marrk said:

I've not bought 'Michael' and won't be doing so, i've got every studio album he's ever appeared on too. I feel no guilt. This lacks his touch, it's not his art. It's fucking idiots tracing, lying and botching what good there might have been. Fuck that shit.

I bought Take That's album for somebody's Xmas present, i'm presuming they outsold this outrageous con. Oh well.

Onwards to the OTW re-release.

It's a shame they can't just do a boxset (or even just a single disc if they have to spread it out) of outtakes ala Dylans "bootleg series", prince's "crystal ball", Springsteens "tracks" etc... and just leave them as they were. Of course Mike won't have a quarter as many completed tracks as the guys I mentioned but I reckon he has a couple dozen finished tracks give or take a few. Maybe even a few outtakes with his brothers aswell?

I loved the almost finished track "for all time" when it leaked, and then Michael himself put on a new horrible bridge and it ruined the song LOL. Thank God for the gorgeous leaked original version....

"Buffalo bill" anyone LOL. Adult "I'll be there" etc... and what about the 50 cent duet "trial of the century" LOL. Greatest fake song prank ever LOL. In the heat of the molestation trial, did anyone really think Mike would have the audacity and sheer stupidity to record a song called "trial of the century" with of all people 50 cent LOL I certainly laughed.

I too think they should've done a box set or should in the next couple of years. That whole "he only left 20 songs behind" crap is so ridiculous

babybugz said:

bboy87 said:

I don't think it should've been the lead single. Behind The Mask or Hollywood Tonight should've been the choice instead

I don't think it would have made a difference and wow I didn't think your tumblr would look like that it's very simple I would post my blog but i'm scared

I'm trying to fix it up a bit

bboy87 said:

thesexofit said:

It's a shame they can't just do a boxset (or even just a single disc if they have to spread it out) of outtakes ala Dylans "bootleg series", prince's "crystal ball", Springsteens "tracks" etc... and just leave them as they were. Of course Mike won't have a quarter as many completed tracks as the guys I mentioned but I reckon he has a couple dozen finished tracks give or take a few. Maybe even a few outtakes with his brothers aswell?

I loved the almost finished track "for all time" when it leaked, and then Michael himself put on a new horrible bridge and it ruined the song LOL. Thank God for the gorgeous leaked original version....

"Buffalo bill" anyone LOL. Adult "I'll be there" etc... and what about the 50 cent duet "trial of the century" LOL. Greatest fake song prank ever LOL. In the heat of the molestation trial, did anyone really think Mike would have the audacity and sheer stupidity to record a song called "trial of the century" with of all people 50 cent LOL I certainly laughed.

I too think they should've done a box set or should in the next couple of years. That whole "he only left 20 songs behind" crap is so ridiculous

Another excuse just so they get the money, that's all.

MyLuv229 said:

Timmy84 said:

They said fastest, not best lol

That's how I meant it. I figured "Michael" wouldnt sell faster than the albums released in the last 20 years (except for Invincible, which was slow)... considering the boycotts that fans are doing as well the illegal downloads this day and age. I knew the album would do well, but didn't expect it to do better than prior albums in the last 20 years.

I'm sure 'Vince broke 100,000 first week in the UK. I'm positive i read that. It dropped off fast.

bboy87 said:

babybugz said:

I don't think it would have made a difference and wow I didn't think your tumblr would look like that it's very simple I would post my blog but i'm scared

I'm trying to fix it up a bit

I'm slow when it comes to that site I deleted mines I just use blogger now.

bboy87 said:

thesexofit said:

It's a shame they can't just do a boxset (or even just a single disc if they have to spread it out) of outtakes ala Dylans "bootleg series", prince's "crystal ball", Springsteens "tracks" etc... and just leave them as they were. Of course Mike won't have a quarter as many completed tracks as the guys I mentioned but I reckon he has a couple dozen finished tracks give or take a few. Maybe even a few outtakes with his brothers aswell?

I loved the almost finished track "for all time" when it leaked, and then Michael himself put on a new horrible bridge and it ruined the song LOL. Thank God for the gorgeous leaked original version....

"Buffalo bill" anyone LOL. Adult "I'll be there" etc... and what about the 50 cent duet "trial of the century" LOL. Greatest fake song prank ever LOL. In the heat of the molestation trial, did anyone really think Mike would have the audacity and sheer stupidity to record a song called "trial of the century" with of all people 50 cent LOL I certainly laughed.

I too think they should've done a box set or should in the next couple of years. That whole "he only left 20 songs behind" crap is so ridiculous

What about "trial of the century" LOL. Iam waiting for that one!

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In some parts monster sound like him , it sound like him more than breaking news I can't explain.

Marrk said:

thesexofit said:

LOL, I see your point. It is unusually low of course but then "this is it" OST only made no 3 in the UK. But yes of course Sony and the estate must be dissapointed. I think they expected "hold my hand" to take off in the US and UK and it just hasn't.

I've not bought 'Michael' and won't be doing so, i've got every studio album he's ever appeared on too. I feel no guilt. This lacks his touch, it's not his art. It's fucking idiots tracing, lying and botching what good there might have been. Fuck that shit.

I bought Take That's album for somebody's Xmas present, i'm presuming they outsold this outrageous con. Oh well.

Onwards to the OTW re-release.

I was torn about this album. I didn't want to buy it 'cause I know that those 3 Casico songs are not him, but this would have been the first MJ album that I wouldn't own. My problem was solved when I got it during a Christmas gift exchange at work. I must admit, I like the damn CD more than I like Invincible. And my 2 yr olds adore "hollywood tonight." I have that damn song on repeat.

illimack said:

Marrk said:

I've not bought 'Michael' and won't be doing so, i've got every studio album he's ever appeared on too. I feel no guilt. This lacks his touch, it's not his art. It's fucking idiots tracing, lying and botching what good there might have been. Fuck that shit.

I bought Take That's album for somebody's Xmas present, i'm presuming they outsold this outrageous con. Oh well.

Onwards to the OTW re-release.

I was torn about this album. I didn't want to buy it 'cause I know that those 3 Casico songs are not him, but this would have been the first MJ album that I wouldn't own. My problem was solved when I got it during a Christmas gift exchange at work. I must admit, I like the damn CD more than I like Invincible. And my 2 yr olds adore "hollywood tonight." I have that damn song on repeat.

How is that possible These reviews I see people like it more than invincible and their favorite tracks are the fakes

babybugz said:

illimack said:

I was torn about this album. I didn't want to buy it 'cause I know that those 3 Casico songs are not him, but this would have been the first MJ album that I wouldn't own. My problem was solved when I got it during a Christmas gift exchange at work. I must admit, I like the damn CD more than I like Invincible. And my 2 yr olds adore "hollywood tonight." I have that damn song on repeat.

How is that possible These reviews I see people like it more than invincible and their favorite tracks are the fakes

Invincible had some goofy ass songs. Besides "butterflies" and "You rock my world," I didn't really enjoy that CD too much.

I do believe that Holllywood Tonight is MJ.....it just sounds auto-tuned or distorted. But even with the distortion, it sounds more like MJ than those Casicso (sp) songs. I like the Casicos songs and I believe MJ wrote them, but sorry..... that ain't him singing.

illimack said:

babybugz said:

How is that possible These reviews I see people like it more than invincible and their favorite tracks are the fakes

Invincible had some goofy ass songs. Besides "butterflies" and "You rock my world," I didn't really enjoy that CD too much.

I do believe that Holllywood Tonight is MJ.....it just sounds auto-tuned or distorted. But even with the distortion, it sounds more like MJ than those Casicso (sp) songs. I like the Casicos songs and I believe MJ wrote them, but sorry..... that ain't him singing.

Break of Dawn, Heaven Can Wait, You Rock My World, Butterflies and Whatever Happens were my favorites. I think he was trying to keep up with the young crowd on that one imo. I think it's better than "Michael" though.

MJ sang backup on "What A Fool Believes"? I think I'd have to be "a fool" to "believe" it. I don't hear it.

thesexofit said:

errant said:

awful lot of hyperbole for #4.

LOL, I see your point. It is unusually low of course but then "this is it" OST only made no 3 in the UK. But yes of course Sony and the estate must be dissapointed. I think they expected "hold my hand" to take off in the US and UK and it just hasn't.

"INVINCIBLE" sold 110,000 and debut @#1.

"NUMBER ONES" sold 118,157 and debut @ #1.

"MICHAEL" sold 113,146 and debut @ #4.

If it were any other sales week during the year, he would have been #1 so I don't think his total is unusually low.

"MICHAEL" certainly beats the first week sales of his recent compilations/reissues in the UK ("ESSENTIAL" 45,527 #2; "THRILLER 25" 41,184 #3; "KING OF POP" 25,873 #5; and "THIS IS IT" 78,097 #3).

Also, "Hold My Hand" has turned out to be a very decent worldwide hit all things considered charting in the Top 20 and Top 10 in many countries. It's his 42nd UK Top 10 hit as a solo artist which is a huge deal since he's one of the rare few whose charted a Top 10 in five consecutive decades: 70's, 80's, 90's, 00's, and 10's.

Cinnie said:

MJ sang backup on "What A Fool Believes"? I think I'd have to be "a fool" to "believe" it. I don't hear it.

I don't hear Mike on there either. Not like the other songs he did backup vocals on...I don't think he was on those tunes at all.

^ Must've gotten Jackson confused with McDonald as far as "Michaels" go.

Because that's all McDonald!

But playing Devil's Advocate with Michael... he probably wasn't cleared to be on the album so Michael McDonald replaced Michael's backing track with his.

Tonight’s org post is somewhat unique and calls for a different kind of introduction
A monster had arrived in the village
The major ingredient of any recipe for fear is the unknown
And this person or thing is soon to be met
He knows every thought, he can feel every emotion
Oh yes, I did forget something didn’t I? I forgot to introduce you to the monster

Vanilli said:

Tonight’s org post is somewhat unique and calls for a different kind of introduction
A monster had arrived in the village
The major ingredient of any recipe for fear is the unknown
And this person or thing is soon to be met
He knows every thought, he can feel every emotion
Oh yes, I did forget something didn’t I? I forgot to introduce you to the monster

**spontaneously combusts**

I didn't just see that....

In case anyone hasn't heard it:

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Timmy84 said:

But playing Devil's Advocate with Michael... he probably wasn't cleared to be on the album so Michael McDonald replaced Michael's backing track with his.

Actually, I think you can do backing vocals without being credited as a favor. I'm pretty sure lots of artists have appeared as backing vocalists on other people's albums without being credited. Just like MJ was allowed to be on TV at that abc special in 2001, he just couldn't be credited at all.

MJ did backing vocals on this song too and you can barely hear him:

Plus, I think Quincy was a fan of the Doobie Bros. and/or Michael McDonald.

Superstition said:

In case anyone hasn't heard it:

[Edited 12/20/10 1:06am]

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starts petition for Superstition to be banned for posting this shit

That was one of the songs from the same session as Monster/Breaking News/Keep Your Head Up.

Remember - there's supposedly 10 or 12 of these songs. If you include that one and Carry On, that's only what, 5? Still 5 - 7 left out there. I hope they're all shelved permanently.

Superstition said:

That was one of the songs from the same session as Monster/Breaking News/Keep Your Head Up.

Remember - there's supposedly 10 or 12 of these songs. If you include that one and Carry On, that's only what, 5? Still 5 - 7 left out there. I hope they're all shelved permanently.

Yeah...

Unfortunately...I have a feeling for the duets project they will use one of those tracks. I always said if they used three (mostly fake) songs for the FIRST music project...Then the future don't look so bright.

Yep, this being the first project, they had the whole pool of unreleased material to work with. And if this is the best they can do, then I'm not counting on any future releases being much better.

My 2 cents on the Cascio tracks are that they were perhaps intended for MJ to sing on, but they never got completed, so they had an soundalike do like guide vocals/demos of the songs for MJ to record at a later date. Also, I read MJ worked with Wyclef, Babyface, will.i.am, Sisqo of Dru Hill & Ne-Yo amongst others, so I'm guessing there were songs/demos completed, which maybe will be released in the future.

MyLuv229 said:

I wonder if this is from a video. I have to say, I love how he looks with little makeup.

Here you go!

This one is also related to the situation,but from a different day.

I think there is a longer version of this one,but I dont see it!

Superstition said:

Timmy84 said:

But playing Devil's Advocate with Michael... he probably wasn't cleared to be on the album so Michael McDonald replaced Michael's backing track with his.

Actually, I think you can do backing vocals without being credited as a favor. I'm pretty sure lots of artists have appeared as backing vocalists on other people's albums without being credited. Just like MJ was allowed to be on TV at that abc special in 2001, he just couldn't be credited at all.

MJ did backing vocals on this song too and you can barely hear him:

Plus, I think Quincy was a fan of the Doobie Bros. and/or Michael McDonald.

Well true. Michael did sing background on one of Kenny Loggins' songs.

MyLuv229 said:

The perfect prom date. Anyone know where this pic is from?

the pic is from i think a wedding in 1987, i think it was one of his attorney's.

Superstition said:

Timmy84 said:

But playing Devil's Advocate with Michael... he probably wasn't cleared to be on the album so Michael McDonald replaced Michael's backing track with his.

Actually, I think you can do backing vocals without being credited as a favor. I'm pretty sure lots of artists have appeared as backing vocalists on other people's albums without being credited. Just like MJ was allowed to be on TV at that abc special in 2001, he just couldn't be credited at all.

MJ did backing vocals on this song too and you can barely hear him:

Plus, I think Quincy was a fan of the Doobie Bros. and/or Michael McDonald.

Thanks for the info. Please post all the song that Mike allegedly sang on.

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