dag said:

angel345 said:

Because he's mine

No No No he's mine...the boy is mine.

alphastreet said:

Michael's music and voice evolved with time, I would have found it boring if he stuck with the same sound as off the wall and thriller. I like off the wall, but most of the album does sound like a 70's disco era album, though at the same time I'm not writing it off as one and it is a classic in it's own right. I think the singles are classics, but the rest does sound 70's though they are excellent songs. I feel MJ sounds more confident and edgy in Bad and Dangerous, and a good blend of both soft and hard in Thriller.

Michael's vocals on dance tracks were much better on Off The Wall and Thriller. " Dont Stop To You Get Enough" is arguably the greatest dance song ever. Just his range and the clearness of his voice on faster songs was better back then. Even on the underated Triumph album. Listen to those smooth/clear vocals on the faster songs. Which is probably why its prefered by the mainstream and general public

Later on faster songs MJ started NOT SINGING...But a lot of angry grunting with his voice

Being edgy is cool...But ppl want to hear you sing as well. Not just on a slow jams...Sing the dance tracks....

Sing along songs is CATCHY....

[Edited 12/17/10 10:05am]

Bought my copy of Michael yesterday!

Marrk said:

As a producer, i believe Michael knew his way around a studio better than most people give him credit for. All i know is here's a guy who started recording back in 1969. He picked up a shitload of knowledge on his way. How many evolutions of popular music did he go through, How much did recording techniques change in that time? All the while being at the top of his game and top of the pile through most of them?

A small thing like death aint stopping MJ neither.

I can count on one hand the amount of songs of his i dislike. Most of them on 'Michael', so not his fault there either!

I always find it funny how outsiders are always the ones who make it seem like he was some puppet in the studio and everyone else who worked with him are always the ones who give very detailed account about how thoroughly involved he was in his own music. Always. It never fails. It just to the point I'm like either: "Proof or stfu." Just because he wasn't out on stage with a guitar in his hands doesn't mean he was spoon fed whatever was given to him. Like srsly.

Though, I have to admit, a lot of my least favorite MJ songs come from Off The Wall. I think it was around Triumph that I thought he was going in the right direction.

SherryJackson said:

Bought my copy of Michael yesterday!

Yea, SherryJackson!

BabyBeMine said:

alphastreet said:

Michael's music and voice evolved with time, I would have found it boring if he stuck with the same sound as off the wall and thriller. I like off the wall, but most of the album does sound like a 70's disco era album, though at the same time I'm not writing it off as one and it is a classic in it's own right. I think the singles are classics, but the rest does sound 70's though they are excellent songs. I feel MJ sounds more confident and edgy in Bad and Dangerous, and a good blend of both soft and hard in Thriller.

Michael's vocals on dance tracks were much better on Off The Wall and Thriller. " Dont Stop To You Get Enough" is arguably the greatest dance song ever. Just his range and the clearness of his voice on faster songs was better back then. Even on the underated Triumph album. Listen to those smooth/clear vocals on the faster songs. Which is probably why its prefered by the mainstream and general public

Later on faster songs MJ started NOT SINGING...But a lot of angry grunting with his voice

Being edgy is cool...But ppl want to hear you sing as well. Not just on a slow jams...Sing the dance tracks....

Sing along songs is CATCHY....

[Edited 12/17/10 10:05am]

I already said off the wall is good for the classic singles, I love don't stop and rock with you a lot for those, rock with you is in my top 10 mj.

I'm actually preferring Triumph these days over Off the Wall. It's a more coherent project.

Timmy84 said:

I'm actually preferring Triumph these days over Off the Wall. It's a more coherent project.

I recall getting destiny, off the wall, and triumph around the same time years ago, and of the three, off the wall as a whole grew on me last. I liked destiny immediately and same with triumph though not as fast as destiny.

Timmy84 said:

I'm actually preferring Triumph these days over Off the Wall. It's a more coherent project.

I think that, overall, I prefer Triumph over Off the Wall. It sounds more like the MJ I enjoy. Kinda like he was finally finding his own voice.

Unholyalliance said:

Timmy84 said:

I'm actually preferring Triumph these days over Off the Wall. It's a more coherent project.

I think that, overall, I prefer Triumph over Off the Wall. It sounds more like the MJ I enjoy. Kinda like he was finally finding his own voice.

I agree though I believed he started finding it in Destiny too.

I really heard the passion and simplicity and melody on Destiny, that record is a gem and so underrated.

I guess due to the fact that Destiny and Triumph weren't part of the 'blockbuster' part of MJ's career they are overlooked, which is a real shame, I think it can be argued in terms of lyrical content that it was some of the most relatable and mature stuff he wrote. Seeming to come from a real human being with real issues to deal with. That and the great organic sound and maybe because the brothers were involved lead to a different sort of MJ sound.

I was listening to the Jackson 5 christmas album today and couldn't help but wonder what a christmas album would have sounded like if they had made one around Des/Triu era. Not that I am the biggest xmas album fan, but still...

CPest1 said:

I guess due to the fact that Destiny and Triumph weren't part of the 'blockbuster' part of MJ's career they are overlooked, which is a real shame, I think it can be argued in terms of lyrical content that it was some of the most relatable and mature stuff he wrote. Seeming to come from a real human being with real issues to deal with. That and the great organic sound and maybe because the brothers were involved lead to a different sort of MJ sound.

I was listening to the Jackson 5 christmas album today and couldn't help but wonder what a christmas album would have sounded like if they had made one around Des/Triu era. Not that I am the biggest xmas album fan, but still...

yeah I agree that they get ignored cause of how great mj's adult solo career is. I also love the motown stuff. It's nice so that when I don't feel like solo mj for awhile, I can turn to that, and then back and it's all him so awesome

I agree the songs on destiny are so relatable, they struck a chord with me when I heard them.

alphastreet said:

I agree the songs on destiny are so relatable, they struck a chord with me when I heard them.

I feel, at that time, he was still having the usual family/growing up issues. Then by HIStory...he was having a whole new set of issues that most of us can't even imagine. I'm sure that many celebrities, present and future will though. I bet you, if anything, if Kanye West ever listened to that HIStory album it has a completely new meaning for him now. =/

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Something wrong with you if you don’t like off the wall but Triumph Is a really good album it’s definitely my favorite Jackson’s album that and Destiny. Even if you not a Jackson (the brothers) fan I recommended people add Triumph to their Michael collection.

TMZ posted a story that the exterior of Neverland Valley Ranch has been

returned to it's former glory with a few pictures showing how it looks like

it use to look on the outside. For a minute, it made me smile, then I remembered

MJ wouldn't be there. It just isn't the same without Michael there. The magic of

that place is gone without MJ living there. Sneddon destroyed Michael's home,

and his heart, and Murray destroyed Michael's life. But not to end

on a dark note, the new pictures look nice.

Must be cleaning it up for those rich MJ fans who are going to ride

a few of the rides for all the $ they are charging.

From December 2010:

Timmy84 said:

I'm actually preferring Triumph these days over Off the Wall. It's a more coherent project.

Same. I actually consider Triumph as MORE of a MJ album than Off The Wall, because he wrote more of the songs and had more of a hand in the production also.

Militant said:

Timmy84 said:

I'm actually preferring Triumph these days over Off the Wall. It's a more coherent project.

Same. I actually consider Triumph as MORE of a MJ album than Off The Wall, because he wrote more of the songs and had more of a hand in the production also.

Vanilli said:

TMZ posted a story that the exterior of Neverland Valley Ranch has been

returned to it's former glory with a few pictures showing how it looks like

it use to look on the outside. For a minute, it made me smile, then I remembered

MJ wouldn't be there. It just isn't the same without Michael there. The magic of

that place is gone without MJ living there. Sneddon destroyed Michael's home,

and his heart, and Murray destroyed Michael's life. But not to end

on a dark note, the new pictures look nice.

Must be cleaning it up for those rich MJ fans who are going to ride

a few of the rides for all the $ they are charging.

From December 2010:

And they did it when the man's no longer here to see it. How convenient.

Timmy84 said:

Militant said:

Same. I actually consider Triumph as MORE of a MJ album than Off The Wall, because he wrote more of the songs and had more of a hand in the production also.

Triumph is, without a doubt, Michael Jackson's greatest album ever.

[Edited 12/17/10 17:30pm]

After considerable bitching from the fans (myself included ), Sony is FINALLY releasing the BAD tour on DVD. It'd better be the Wembley shows...

[Edited 12/17/10 19:09pm]

Timmy84 said:

I'm actually preferring Triumph these days over Off the Wall. It's a more coherent project.

I'm stuck between them. Triumph's got that curl free sheen vibe too that makes obsessed with early 80s' R&B and Boogie

MyNameIsPiper said:

After considerable bitching from the fans (myself included ), Sony is FINALLY releasing the BAD tour on DVD. It'd better be the Wembley shows...

[Edited 12/17/10 19:09pm]

I wonder is that the reason why they deleted my Bad Tour clips off Youtube

bboy87 said:

Timmy84 said:

I'm actually preferring Triumph these days over Off the Wall. It's a more coherent project.

I'm stuck between them. Triumph's got that curl free sheen vibe too that makes obsessed with early 80s' R&B and Boogie

For some reason I can also relate to the lyrics of all the songs on it.

Vanilli said:

TMZ posted a story that the exterior of Neverland Valley Ranch has been

returned to it's former glory with a few pictures showing how it looks like

it use to look on the outside. For a minute, it made me smile, then I remembered

MJ wouldn't be there. It just isn't the same without Michael there. The magic of

that place is gone without MJ living there. Sneddon destroyed Michael's home,

and his heart, and Murray destroyed Michael's life. But not to end

on a dark note, the new pictures look nice.

Must be cleaning it up for those rich MJ fans who are going to ride

a few of the rides for all the $ they are charging.

From December 2010:

It annoys me when media agencies incorrectly report that Colony Capital owns Neverland, or that Michael sold it before his death.

Truth is yes Michael was defaulting on loan repayments on the property and no longer wanting to live there sold 50% of it to Colony Capital in a joint venture arrangement. They always forget to mention that Michael was still a part owner in the property.

OFF THE WALL Vs TRIUMPH

Don't Stop 'Till You Get Enough Vs Can You Feel It

Rock With You vs Lovely One

Workin' Day And Night vs Your Ways

Get On The Floor vs Everybody

Off The Wall V This Place Hotel

Girlfriend v Time Waits for No One

She's Out Of My Life v Walk Right Now

I Can't Help It v Give It Up

It's The Falling In Love v Wondering Who

Burn This Disco Out

Though in my mind the perfect 1979/80 album would be

Side A

1. Don't Stop Til You Get Enough

2. Rock With You

3. Lovely One
4. Workin' Day and Night

5. This Place Hotel

Side B

1. Can You Feel It

2. Get On The Floor

3. I Can't Help It

4. Time Waits for No One

as much as i am worked up for a bad tour dvd , im equally scared that they will do a half ass job by releasing yokohama 87 . i dont have enough faith in the estate to believe that they will do things right after michael'

motownlover said:

as much as i am worked up for a bad tour dvd , im equally scared that they will do a half ass job by releasing yokohama 87 . i dont have enough faith in the estate to believe that they will do things right after michael'

That's the same fear I have. Knowing them, they'd release it in the same quality we've had it for the past 10 years