Identity said:

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Two disgruntled fans held up signs at Brooklyn’s Music Hall of Williamsburg on Tuesday (Dec. 28) after Lauryl Hill finally took to the the stage around midnight.

Identity said:

gamera said:

Screw that racist mess. No thanks.

Listen to this and then offer a major mea culpa for believing dumb internet rumors.

I didn't hear the rumor on the internet. I heard it from people who have worked closely and toured with her on multiple occasions.

It's a case of their supposed recollections against her strong denial. The accusations are largely irrelevant without proof.

Identity said:

It's a case of their supposed recollections against her strong denial. The accusations are largely irrelevant without proof.

It's a case of someone I know personally, and well, who knows her as well as you can get to know someone you spend weeks in a tour bus with. I trust them more than I trust her personal public denial. Of course she is going to deny that publicly. She may be racist but she knows, at least to a point, where her money comes from.

gamera said:

Identity said:

It's a case of their supposed recollections against her strong denial. The accusations are largely irrelevant without proof.

It's a case of someone I know personally, and well, who knows her as well as you can get to know someone you spend weeks in a tour bus with. I trust them more than I trust her personal public denial. Of course she is going to deny that publicly. She may be racist but she knows, at least to a point, where her money comes from.

This reminds me of an 80s rumor about Donna Summer.Someone claimed that she made some anti-gay remarks during a concert and that she is against homosexuality.It was never proven,just like this Lauryn Hill rumor was never proven.Lauryn did a song with Joss Stone (a white singer) and she has recorded and/or sampled a few songs that were written by white artists.How could she possibly be a racist?

I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise.

Identity said:

I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise.

me too

Identity said:

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Two disgruntled fans held up signs at Brooklyn’s Music Hall of Williamsburg on Tuesday (Dec. 28) after Lauryl Hill finally took to the the stage around midnight.

That New York Times article is a beaut. Even Prince left early.

ThreadBare said:

Identity said:

That New York Times article is a beaut. Even Prince left early.

That was difficult to read. So... I assume she's bipolar?

JudasLChrist said:

ThreadBare said:

That New York Times article is a beaut. Even Prince left early.

That was difficult to read. So... I assume she's bipolar?

Got me. But it sounds like she needs, at least, better managment. Someone who'll get in her face and help her see that she's hurting the few people still willing to buy her tickets.

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Timmy84 said:

Three hours is too much.

If that happened in Scotland, people would have stayed the three hours just to bottle her off when she did finally appear.

TheDigitalGardener said:

Timmy84 said:

Three hours is too much.

If that happened in Scotland, people would have stayed the three hours just to bottle her off when she did finally appear.

I can just imagine.

Unfortunately, I won't be able to experience the professionalism and kindness of Ms. Hill since she isn't coming near where I live.

I still hold a grudge against her because she took away Madonna's chance to win additional Grammys for Ray of Light!

Glindathegood said:

I still hold a grudge against her because she took away Madonna's chance to win additional Grammys for Ray of Light!

I was happy for both of them.'Ray Of Light' and 'Miseducation' are my favorite albums of 1998.

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Timmy84 said:

TheDigitalGardener said:

If that happened in Scotland, people would have stayed the three hours just to bottle her off when she did finally appear.

I can just imagine.

The article said she scolded the people that stayed to give her shit!

Cinnie said:

Timmy84 said:

I can just imagine.

The article said she scolded the people that stayed to give her shit!

She wouldn't want it with Scotland.

Timmy84 said:

Cinnie said:

The article said she scolded the people that stayed to give her shit!

She wouldn't want it with Scotland.

Even gave her keyboardist shit! He should have played "keyboard cat" and left.

Cinnie said:

Timmy84 said:

She wouldn't want it with Scotland.

Even gave her keyboardist shit! He should have played "keyboard cat" and left.

Identity said:

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Two disgruntled fans held up signs at Brooklyn’s Music Hall of Williamsburg on Tuesday (Dec. 28) after Lauryl Hill finally took to the the stage around midnight.

This is sad I'm not sure if I would have waited the three hours.

Cinnie said:

Timmy84 said:

She wouldn't want it with Scotland.

Even gave her keyboardist shit! He should have played "keyboard cat" and left.

I mean, if it's a good-paying gig, I can see him staying. I can also see not trying to be hit by flying bottles, having played to ornery crowds. (all that was missing was the chicken wire.)

ThreadBare said:

Cinnie said:

Even gave her keyboardist shit! He should have played "keyboard cat" and left.

I mean, if it's a good-paying gig, I can see him staying. I can also see not trying to be hit by flying bottles, having played to ornery crowds. (all that was missing was the chicken wire.)

I know that's why he didn't ACTUALLY play "keyboard cat" and leave. I'm sure it's a good gig - just saying.

I also know there is no show without Lauryn Hill - but that is exactly the reason why she needs to be THERE/on time/with it.

I wonder how long it will be before promoters and concert organisers start putting clauses in her contracts that provide financial penalties for tardiness? I know that she still has some vocal fans but she is easily ten years past her peak and she is in no position to show paying customers this kind of disrespect. Maybe if she starts to take a financial hit she will start showing up on time?

I was gonna keep my fingers to myself on the matter of Lauryn Hill and these concert dates UNTIL I read this review on The Long Hair Care Forum. The poster even had camera phone pics (which I won't post here) so she was certainly there. She said it was a FIVE HOUR WAIT!!!

Last night I saw Ms. Lauryn Hill perform in Brooklyn, NYC. The doors opened at 7:30pm, however she didn't come on stage until after 12:00am!!! She didn't have an opening act and her DJ came out around 11:45pm. Two fans in front held up signs that said "you just lost one" and "this is insulting". Well when Lauryn came out, she saw the signs and had the music cut off! She talked directly to the fans with the signs and told them that "she's worth the wait" and if they didn't like it they could "ask for a refund". That crazy woman thinks shes worth a 5 hour wait! She sang some MOLH and fugees songs. I was in the front and point to my SO when she sang "doo wop that thing" and she laughed.

Overall...her voice wasn't the best and her music was so LOUD! She definitely wasn't worth the five hour wait. Save your monies if she's coming to your town.

Now normally I wouldn't say this but folks need to let the dream of Lauryn go and just remember her from the past if/until something radically changes w/ her for the better. She's way too gone to try a comeback at this mo, IMHO. It saddens me that she's actually screwing up her future by alienating so many fans today. Most older acts rely on their long term fanbase and back catalog when they reach a certain age. Every time Lauryn pulls these antics, she's making it harder for herself in the end. She certainly should be penalized $$$$$ for doing this. Venues rent blocks of time and expect you to be finished in that time....fans who wish for a refund should get it, but why should someone else pay for her irresponsibility? I could see it if this were a one-off, but it ain't.

Of course people were mad and had a right to be. Her concerts were in the middle of the week and people had to work the next day, get home for kids, weather, etc. These delays are NOT just about her "being worth it" (what an ego she's got) and the music but ler lack of respect for her fan's time/money/patience.

BTW, she kept PRINCE waiting too.

As for her alledged comments about White folks and her music, that one's been around forever. I din't know if I believe anything one way or the other about it. All I DO know is that she's behaved as if she wants NO fans for the past decade or so.

I will just try and remember Lauryn how she was, not how she has become. It's all very sad and I'm sure she needs the money to pay all her bills and child support for her man and all his kids.

I will never spend the time or money to go see her perform until I've heard for sure that she's taking it seriously. This kind of behaviour is just bullshit. For now, i will just listen to her one masterpiece and forget about how things could've been.

gamera said:

Screw that racist mess. No thanks.

Let me guess. The phantom MTV interview, right?

Stop.

Identity said:

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Two disgruntled fans held up signs at Brooklyn’s Music Hall of Williamsburg on Tuesday (Dec. 28) after Lauryl Hill finally took to the the stage around midnight.

Shit, they were dumb for waiting five hours. FIVE HOURS!!!! Fuck that shit, I'd be long gone.

Identity said:

Tickets for the following shows are on sale now:

1/1, New York, NY (Bowery Ballroom)
1/3, New York, NY (The Blue Note)
1/4, New York, NY (The Blue Note)
1/5, New York, NY (The Blue Note)
1/8, Charlotte, NC (Amos' Southend)
1/9, Asheville, NC (The Orange Peel)
1/12, Charleston, SC (The Music Farm)
1/14, Atlanta, GA (The Centerstage)
1/16, St. Louis, MO (The Pageant)
1/18, Minneapolis, MN (First Avenue)
1/20, Chicago, IL (House of Blues)
1/22, Toronto, ON (Sound Academy)
1/23, Montreal, QC (Metropolis)
1/29, Atlantic City, NJ (House of Blues)
2/1, New York, NY (Highline Ballroom)
2/4, Montclair, NJ (The Wellmont Theatre)
3/19, Miami, FL (Jazz in the Gardens Festival)
3/20, Miami, FL (Jazz in the Gardens Festival)

[Edited 12/30/10 22:22pm]

Anybody got any word on her show from last night @ The Blue Note? I'm curious to see how long she'll keep this up. These reviews are not new. She's been getting the same reviews since she recently started touring. Eventually she won't be able to sell tickets. I believe this will get old pretty quick. Yes, she'll always have her devotees but the majority of people will save and/or spend their entertainment dollars elsewhere. Damn, L-Boogie

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The concert reviewer with the Village Voice maintains that the 8PM gig did not commence until almost midnight--again.

http://blogs.villagevoice...yn_hil.php#