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seeingvoices12 said:

You had to be FIRST

luv4u said:

seeingvoices12 said:

You had to be FIRST

of course

So, my copy of Visions arrived two days ago. So far I've only had time to watch Disc 1. Are the videos all supposed to be boxed in like that? Still, pretty good.

And I went out and bought "Michael Jackson: The Experience" yesterday (from HMV, so I got the version with the additional track).

So far, it seems fairly basic but fun. I need to do the training exercises, I think, so I can master the timing. I've never played any of Ubisoft's dance titles before and it seems as if you have to be pretty precise with the timing. It's not immediately obvious whether you're supposed to be following the Michael avatar, the icons on the side of the screen, or both. I'm a pretty good dancer IRL but I think it's gonna take a little time to really get good at this game.

I'm looking at the before and after shots of Neverland and I can't believe how horrid it looks now. What's the word on Neverland? Is it being sold?

skywalker said:

This is a continuation from a previous thread that was locked because it, apparently, got too much into Prince vs. MJ. Anyways:

skywalker said:

My take (written before MJ's passing):

Prince and Michael Jackson are my 2 favorite musicians/artists/performers. As a huge fan of both, let me give you 10 reasons that I like Prince better.

1. Prince has more music. Prince simply has a ton more music than MJ for his fans to listen to. Some will argue that MJ has less "crappy music" and that he has a better filter however, besides being a totally subjective statement, this is simply not true. Pound for pound, MJ has made just as much "average" music as Prince has. As a fan of both, I am happy to have stacks of Prince Albums and sad to have roughly 6 legit MJ albums since 1979. Waiting 5 years between MJ albums sucks and lately it hasn't been worth the wait (Invincible). If I don't like Prince's latest album, within a year or so I'll have a new one.

2. It is arguable who is a better live performer. Critics and fans alike both herald Prince and MJ as two of the best showman ever. Take your pick. That being said, Prince Concerts are more "live" than MJ. Prince's shows are not as rehearsed and are more spontaneous-the energy is different. Plus, Prince's live show is not the same as it has been since 1988. The fact is that, they are both great and you cannot definitively say one is head and shoulders above the other in this regard. MJ cannot work an audience like Prince. Prince's shows are more audience involving than MJ. MJ's shows are like going to a movie. It's a performance that could happen the same no matter the audience. Because of the nature of his concerts, Prince always takes the crowd into account and his concerts change based on the crowd. When did MJ last let audience members (who weren't planted groupies) up onstage to dance? Prince has an actual band that he leads, guides, and plays with. MJ just has hired musicians put together for a tour. Sheryl Crow used to play with him and was quoted as saying that MJ didn't know her name. I assure you, Prince knows his band.

3. It is easier to defend Prince's actions. Hey Prince changed his name to an unpronounceable symbol-super weird right? However, it is rock star weird. MJ used to just be rock star weird, now he is scary and creepy weird. MJ's personal life has overshadowed his art, and forced his music to take a back seat to his circus and court appearances.

4. Prince evolves. Don't get me wrong, as a fan of MJ I realize he has grown as an artist. However, every one of his albums is chasing after "Thriller", both in style, and in sales figures. Prince is not constantly trying to top, redo, outdo, or copy "Purple Rain". MJ got himself in a rut.

5. Prince has more variety to his music. Sure, MJ's pop sweeps over different genres, but not as aggressively as Prince does it. When was the last time MJ did a solo acoustic guitar album? A solo piano album? An instrumental album? A blues rock album? A jazz/funk album? Not only does Prince do different types of music from album to album. Often, he'll do it from song to song on one album. Hardly anyone crosses genres as effectively as Prince. MJ definitely does not.

6. Prince is more true to himself musically. Lately, MJ has gotten into the habit of hiring a load of "hot" producers to give him the latest sound, but it makes MJ's music seem contrived, forced, and not authentic. Even, when Prince is biting new trends he still sounds like Prince. He sounds authentic. You might not like Prince's rapping, but "pussy control" is an authentic club anthem whether you like it or not. MJ singing things like "2000 Watts" seems artificial and forced-it's hard to believe MJ feels what he is singing.

7. Prince is more accessible to his fans. I know this sounds weird, but Prince often opens up his recording studios for his fans to tour- as MJ does with Neverland. However, the difference is the fact that Prince will often do intimate late night shows at his place with a few hundred fans. These gigs used to cost maybe $7. Often they were free. Prince casually walks amongst the crowd at these shows and just hangs out. I bet you'd be hard pressed to name another "reclusive" superstar of Prince's magnitude that allows his hardcore fans to get so close.

8. Prince's lyrical themes are more varied and more mature. How many monster and ghost songs can MJ do? How many of us still relate to that? Prince's music is often accused of being all sexual, but the fact is that his relationship based lyrics are more complex than MJ, more sincere, and more believable. Love, romance, sex, and God are questions and themes that all humans ask and deal with. Prince explores these themes with authenticity and an understanding that MJ has rarely, if ever, been able to capture. Prince also can do the fantastical, kid's stuff-look at the "batman" album. That album was fairly complex and mature for a superhero album.

9. Onstage- Prince sings. Prince dances. Prince plays guitar. Prince plays piano/keyboard. Prince plays drums. Prince plays bass guitar.

Onstage-MJ dances, MJ sings. We MJ fans often argue that he does these better than anyone else. That is opinion.

Fact is- Prince does more onstage than MJ. He does all of these really really well. Better singer and dancer than MJ? Some think so. However, without a doubt Prince is more varied onstage than MJ.

10. Prince has hot female backup dancers. MJ's back up dancers seem like Madonna's leftovers.

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I'm gonna respond to your post instead of making my own.

1. I can give you some of this one. Michael, for some odd reason, felt the need to take a long time between albums while Prince released album after album, giving us more variety and choice. Michael, however, does have less crappy music as Prince. During the 90's there was a point where Prince was releasing crap album after crap album. Because Michael took time between his albums it is harder to find crap music. Michael's albums usually consisted of a few great songs, 1 or 2 crappy songs, and the rest good songs.

Crap album after crap album? That’s your opinion. As I said, one of the reasons I am a bigger fan of Prince because he simply has more art to enjoy/experience. Fact is he made more music for us to enjoy…whether you personally did or not is irrelevant. No waiting for years in between.

2. This point is purely based on opinion. I'm not sure if you know this, but girls were allowed onto the stage during the Dangerous and HIStory tours. The Sheryl Crow point is void because she has also said some crap before that just isn't true.

But, having said that, I will give you this point. Michael's live shows got...boring after a while. Lip-syncing, the same old thing time after time, basically the same setlist (something that Prince is suffering from now). At his peak (Bad Tour), Michael was unstoppable. But things changed.

The girls allowed on stage at MJ shows were plants. You know that right? The freak-outs were staged. It was part of the routine/act. A bit like when Slash wouldn’t get off of stage at the MTV awards during his guitar solo. Also, Prince’s set lists might be a bit static now, but they sure the hell aren’t a variation of what he did in 1988…and he isn’t lip syncing at all. It is all the way live.

3. You were doing fine until you said this. Just because Prince is easier to defend does not mean that he is a better musician. You have to remember that Michael was a tortured soul. If your Father beat you everytime you made a mistake, made you practice singing hours on end, didn't let you call him Dad, locked you in closets while he went and had sex, wouldn't you be tortured? If your brothers had sex in the same room as you while you pretended to go to sleep, if your brothers and your Father called you ugly when they knew that you didn't like your face, wouldn't you want to change yourself? If you had the whole world watching your every movement, calling you names, making up names, wouldn't you become "scary and creepy weird". If you got accused of the worst allegations ever and the whole world believed that you did it, wouldn't you be tortured? If you had a life like that then there is no chance in hell that you would turn out "normal". Just because Prince had it relatively easy does not mean that he is the better artist.

I never said it made Prince a better musician. I said it made it easier to be a fan of his. Admit it, much MJ’s work in the 90’s was overshadowed by his circus of a personal life. It is sad really. You don’t have to educate me on how “tortured” MJ was...I know the story. It doesn’t change the fact that, instead of being on TV performing/promoting his art, he was mainly on TV in court and/or refuting molestation accusations etc. It made it difficult as a fan of his music because his personal life overshadowed his art…that’s all I am saying. Lastly, I doubt Prince's path was "easy". It probably involved a shit ton of hard work and sacrifice.

4. Michael has evolved as well. Your point that "Michael has always been chasing after Thriller" is invalid. What part of Thriller sounds like HIStory? Michael definitely evolved over the years, he has not been stuck in a rut.

I am not saying that production wise HIStory sounds like Thriller. What I am saying is that Michael spent too much time trying to top/replicate Thriller’s success. Hell, he packaged his greatest hits with HIStory. I mean, think about the grandiose promotion of the album HIStory.

He was always trying to top Thriller in terms of impact/sales/success. MJ made it known that he was always striving to be #1…the success of Thriller affected every album afterwards in terms of scope and commercialization. It couldn’t just be an artistic album it had to be “an event!” It boxed him is all I am saying. He should have put out a classical album, but he was concerned with #1's and sales.

5. It is true that Prince has more variety in his music. But do not limit Michael to the title "pop artist". What part of these songs are pop:

Little Susie

Give In To Me

Who Is It

Will You Be There

Heal The World

Gone Too Soon

Childhood

Stranger In Moscow

They Don't Care About Us

Money

Earth Song

The Lost Children

HIStory

MorphineSpeechless

Is It Scary

Beautiful Girl

In The Back

You Are My Life

Whatever Happens

Although Mike did make quite a bit of pop music, he did not stick to that one genre. Michael was also working on a classical album before he died, but something obviously got in the way of that.

What part of the above mentioned songs aren’t pop? How would you categorize them? They are all pop music. I mean, are there some jazz fusion songs on there I am not seeing? The above songs you mentioned are pop ballads or dance songs…they are pop. Compare Prince’s Madhouse music or an album like Kamasutra with the above songs and you’ll see what I mean.

6. Just because Michael hired hot producers doesn't mean that his music is contrived. Michael Jackson knows what he wants. He is not a puppet that is pushed around by others (when it comes to music anyways). He knows what he wants and he gets it done.

Anyways, a Prince fan should be the last person to talk about forced and contrived music. Listen to some of his 90's music and some of his 00's music and you will find heaps of music that just follows trends. Is Prince doing "Chocolate Box" staying true to himself?

Chocolate Box still sounds like Prince produced by Prince. It’s more Prince than Gett Off for that matter. It’s got the Minneapolis Sound to it. 2000 Watts, Heartbreaker, Invincible…sounds like MJ copying N’Sync. As early as Dangerous MJ was copying Bobby Brown with the Teddy Riley thing…She’s Drives Me Wild and Can’t Let her Get Away especially.

7. Again, this point has nothing to do with Prince's or Michael's artistic value. So what if Prince is more accessible to his fans? He's also more bitchy to them.

Again, I wasn’t talking about artistic value…I was talking about why I prefer Prince even though I am a huge fan of both.

8. I am not going to cover this one too much, because I could go on and on about the genius of Michael's lyrics.

Prince may be a great lyricist, but let's not devalue Michael's ability. Listen to the lyrics of these songs:

Who Is It

Will You Be There

They Don't Care About Us

Stranger In Moscow

Money

Tabloid Junkie

Morphine

Ghosts

Is It Scary

By the way, Michael's "monster" songs aren't always about monsters. Is It Scary and Ghosts are about the 1993 allegations.

It really depends on whose "style" you prefer I guess. I personally feel that Prince is a stronger lyricist, but let's not belittle Michael's lyrics while praising Prince's.

Ghosts and Is It Scary may well be about 1993 allegations…but how were they showcased? Oh yes, a haunted house/ Thriller-esque redo video. Again, I am not putting MJ's lyrics down...just saying that I preferred Prince's tone/scope.

9. We've been here before. It's not what you do man, it's how you do it. And that is why, though Prince sings and dances and plays instruments, the energy that Michael puts into his performances is enough to make him a formidable foe. Just because Prince does more does not make him better. Quality over quantity.

It makes Prince more talented and versatile and attractive to me as a fan. I dunno, maybe it's just me, but for a sick MJ guitar solo you had to look/listen to Slash or Van Halen. For a sick guitar solo from Prince, look no further than Prince.

You said it yourself, onstage, MJ peaked with the BAD tour. When did he peak in the studio? Thriller? Bad? Or in the 90’s when his personal life overshadowed his art?

10. How exactly does this have anything to do with artistic value. Looks are purely opinionated. Who care's what the back round dancers look like, the point is to enjoy the show, not the attractiveness of the dancer behind the star.

Just my

Again, I never was arguing artistic value…just my preference. However, the folks onstage with you are an extension of you/your art…MJ said as much. The attractiveness of the dancers are a component to the show/art…like it or not.

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Not sure if this is posted but according to the http://foreign.peacefmonl...110976.php

The music video for Michael Jackson's song with Akon features dozens of extras ... but only one of them is a pint-sized version of MJ.


TMZ obtained video and photos taken last week from the set of the video for "Hold My Hand." One Jackson fan was featured doing a few of MJ's famous dance moves. You can hear another fan say about the kid, "That there is the opportunity of a lifetime."

As we first reported, a group of MJ fans were recruited to walk into an open airport hangar -- meant to symbolize "walking into the light" (see the pics below). A source on the set told us the director was telling people the video would air on ABC on December 6

skywalker said:

skywalker said:

This is a continuation from a previous thread that was locked because it, apparently, got too much into Prince vs. MJ. Anyways:

It makes Prince more talented and versatile and attractive to me as a fan. I dunno, maybe it's just me, but for a sick MJ guitar solo you had to look/listen to Slash or Van Halen. For a sick guitar solo from Prince, look no further than Prince.

You said it yourself, onstage, MJ peaked with the BAD tour. When did he peak in the studio? Thriller? Bad? Or in the 90’s when his personal life overshadowed his art?

10. How exactly does this have anything to do with artistic value. Looks are purely opinionated. Who care's what the back round dancers look like, the point is to enjoy the show, not the attractiveness of the dancer behind the star.

Just my

Again, I never was arguing artistic value…just my preference. However, the folks onstage with you are an extension of you/your art…MJ said as much. The attractiveness of the dancers are a component to the show/art…like it or not.

[Edited 11/28/10 12:16pm]

Without getting too invested in the eternal Prince & MJ debate, we can safely say that without either, the pop landscape of the last 30 years would be entirely different.

skywalker said:

My take (written before MJ's passing):

Prince and Michael Jackson are my 2 favorite musicians/artists/performers. As a huge fan of both, let me give you 10 reasons that I like Prince better.

Who wrote this? Some 12 year old?

Unholyalliance said:

skywalker said:

My take (written before MJ's passing):

Prince and Michael Jackson are my 2 favorite musicians/artists/performers. As a huge fan of both, let me give you 10 reasons that I like Prince better.

Who wrote this? Some 12 year old?

Goodie, a nice early empty thread about MJ. Great Skywalker that you were a fan of both for all these years. I wasn't. I departed from both in the mid 90s. I'm not sorry because I experienced a whole lot of other music, but catching up with Prince and MJ has been enriching too.

I find it so hard to compare MJ and Prince because they are in character to me, so so different.

Yet it's natural to want to compare. It's like the top two tennis players in the world. They have completely different characters and games, but each is admirable on its own.

I never saw MJ in concert but I have all the dvds and to be honest I don't even look for one moment at any other dancer or person on stage, besides Sidah Garett. MJ's shows might be geared more towards the general public with all the gitz & glammer, but they are spectacular! He is fixating on stage. Not playing an instrument allowed him to put all his heart and soul into one thing at a time and that has a special aura to it too.

People say he couldn't read music or play instruments therefore he wasn't such a great song writer etc, but I think, that that actually shows what a talent he was, to not know the techniques but still come up with tracks people would fall in love with. Lyrically, he was brilliant, he had a lot of soul and knew what was on people's hearts and minds. But perhaps the lack of that musical knowledge is why MJ didn't produce enough. He lacked the know-how of continuous expansion in the musical realm of which Prince is very capable. Remember though, MJ also became a single father which limited his time and priorities.

I don't believe MJ was ever trying to top Thriller.

The reason I think MJ made it as King of Pop with so few albums (and it must have been awful for fans, waiting and waiting) is because so many of us grew up with MJ as a kid. Our parents liked MJ and we all grew older together. That forms an attachment with people.

Both artists have their own charisma. Yet image wise, MJ was always the vulnerable one. Prince was naughty, sexual, outspoken, screamy and a rock guitarist. MJ used his voice, body and life issues. Musically, MJ was simpler than Prince and I don't mean that negatively. He just knew how to strike a chord in peoples' heart with certain tracks.

But it doesn't take away anything from Prince's brilliance. His talent continues to grow and timeless music continues to ooze out of him. Most importantly, he's still sharing that talent. Michael indeed was tortured and I think that if all the negativity surrounding him from 1993 had not been there, things might have been different.

But to live in the same era as both, I think we should all count ourselves very lucky!

[Edited 11/28/10 13:46pm]

So FINALLY got Visions yesterday - have worked through the bonus disc and disc 1.

I understand the frustration with some of the early videos getting a minor polish but no remastering, though for the most part the colours felt richer and the sound was more on point.

Watching "One more chance" you do get the feeling that there was more to come with a second day of shooting - potential close ups, pick ups, and maybe more of a storyline. For only one day of shooting it did come together nicely though and the editor is forced to keep long takes in the mix which I liked.

I guess with a new video for Hold My Hand only days away we should expect a deluxe deluxe edition in a few years, lol.

Unholyalliance said:

skywalker said:

My take (written before MJ's passing):

Prince and Michael Jackson are my 2 favorite musicians/artists/performers. As a huge fan of both, let me give you 10 reasons that I like Prince better.

Who wrote this? Some 12 year old?

Hey, thanks for being so polite. I appreciate it.

Besides, you know that 12 year olds prefer Michael Jackson (Add your own MJ/kid joke here).

Bohemian67 said:

Goodie, a nice early empty thread about MJ. Great Skywalker that you were a fan of both for all these years. I wasn't. I departed from both in the mid 90s. I'm not sorry because I experienced a whole lot of other music, but catching up with Prince and MJ has been enriching too.

I find it so hard to compare MJ and Prince because they are in character to me, so so different.

Yet it's natural to want to compare. It's like the top two tennis players in the world. They have completely different characters and games, but each is admirable on its own.

I never saw MJ in concert but I have all the dvds and to be honest I don't even look for one moment at any other dancer or person on stage, besides Sidah Garett. MJ's shows might be geared more towards the general public with all the gitz & glammer, but they are spectacular! He is fixating on stage. Not playing an instrument allowed him to put all his heart and soul into one thing at a time and that has a special aura to it too.

People say he couldn't read music or play instruments therefore he wasn't such a great song writer etc, but I think, that that actually shows what a talent he was, to not know the techniques but still come up with tracks people would fall in love with. Lyrically, he was brilliant, he had a lot of soul and knew what was on people's hearts and minds. But perhaps the lack of that musical knowledge is why MJ didn't produce enough. He lacked the know-how of continuous expansion in the musical realm of which Prince is very capable. Remember though, MJ also became a single father which limited his time and priorities.

I don't believe MJ was ever trying to top Thriller.

The reason I think MJ made it as King of Pop with so few albums (and it must have been awful for fans, waiting and waiting) is because so many of us grew up with MJ as a kid. Our parents liked MJ and we all grew older together. That forms an attachment with people.

Both artists have their own charisma. Yet image wise, MJ was always the vulnerable one. Prince was naughty, sexual, outspoken, screamy and a rock guitarist. MJ used his voice, body and life issues. Musically, MJ was simpler than Prince and I don't mean that negatively. He just knew how to strike a chord in peoples' heart with certain tracks.

But it doesn't take away anything from Prince's brilliance. His talent continues growing and timeless music continues to ooze out of him. Most importantly, he's still sharing that talent. Michael indeed was tortured and I think that if all the negativity surrounding him from 1993 had not been there, things might have been different.

But to live in the same era as both, I think we should all count ourselves very lucky!

well said.

MJ v Prince

I've been a fan of both for over 30 years.

I never bought into the whole rivalry propagated by the media, nor did I feel the need to choose a side.

I have always felt to be so staunchly in one camp blinded you openly to the music coming from the other.

And if you are a lover of music then you could appreciate both.

To restrict yourself to one artist was to rob yourself of some of the most brilliant music ever created.

Thanks Skywalker, and Swa, I totally agree.

skywalker said:

Hey, thanks for being so polite. I appreciate it.

Oh hey, your welcome. There's just nothing greater than when posters love to litter the MJ sticky with Prince v. MJ posts. All of us here really appreciate it, especially since in all the years that both of them have been out no one's ever thought to try and act like there's some competition between them. I just can't get enough of it.

skywalker said:

Besides, you know that 12 year olds prefer Michael Jackson (Add your own MJ/kid joke here).

Yet, every so often you get this one really super special 12 year old that thinks they're being different.

[Edited 11/28/10 14:02pm]

^

Exactly... I agree with Bohemian.

I think there is a reason why I relate more emotionally to MJ than Prince. I love Prince but I don't have an attachment to him like I have with Michael. I really don't know why. I can just listen to Prince's music but with Mike, I get so emotionally involved, it's kinda scary.

I think it's because MJ was one of the few artists whom the world watch grow up. Proof: My grandma is a fan, My Mom is a fan and I'm a fan. Three generations of MJ fans here.

He gave us so many memories. Heck, my Mom used to tell me stories about how she used to fight for Mike with other girls when it comes to which J5 members they want to marry when she was a little kid.

Also, I think it's because of his personality too. There's always been this longing in me that Michael had a better life. Like you said, he was a tortured soul but that's the thing so captivating about him. Damn it, I wished he had a better life. When you see him as a kid, it really breaks my heart because that Michael was so confident, so knowing that it really makes you wonder what happened behind close doors to make him change into such a reserved, shy and reclusive person.

Anyways, as for musically - both are apples and oranges. It's a good thing I like both.

Swa said:

MJ v Prince

I've been a fan of both for over 30 years.

I never bought into the whole rivalry propagated by the media, nor did I feel the need to choose a side.

I have always felt to be so staunchly in one camp blinded you openly to the music coming from the other.

And if you are a lover of music then you could appreciate both.

To restrict yourself to one artist was to rob yourself of some of the most brilliant music ever created.

Great Post

It's the purple one fans who always bring MJ into the debate, Not the other way around...

I tend to like both but I prefer Mj more.....

Check out Ola Ray before Thriller!

Swa said:

MJ v Prince

I've been a fan of both for over 30 years.

I never bought into the whole rivalry propagated by the media, nor did I feel the need to choose a side.

I have always felt to be so staunchly in one camp blinded you openly to the music coming from the other.

And if you are a lover of music then you could appreciate both.

To restrict yourself to one artist was to rob yourself of some of the most brilliant music ever created.

Add to the fact that the two of them had profound respect for the other. I love them both equally.

seeingvoices12 said:

It's the purple one fans who always bring MJ into the debate, Not the other way around...

THIS. It's quite annoying.

I rather just stick to Michael in this thread. I'm kinda upset y'all were even entertaining this to an argument, let it be.

[Edited 11/28/10 15:16pm]

Completely in Skywalker's boat. He's spot on imo.

I never get into this debate because i'm adamant about the fact that Prince is way out of the others league and therefore think it's not even a debate...but Sky hit it big in that post.

Bottom line though, i dislike degrading someone's fave artist at the comparison of my own...because it's all preference. However, if something crazy is said like, MJ is a better musician than Prince, you just have to say something...for me, usually a laugh.

~

Also, i think it's MJ fans that start it most, just check Prince vid comments on youtube, the MJ freaks sound like...well, just that.

But, anyway...This is an MJ thread, i want news!

[Edited 11/28/10 15:47pm]

WetDream said:

Also, i think it's MJ fans that start it most, just check Prince vid comments on youtube, the MJ freaks sound like...well, just that.

[Edited 11/28/10 15:47pm]

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Oh boy. Talk about being blinded. Your post is a shining example of how hard it is to look out when you are caught in.

WetDream said:

I never get into this debate because i'm adamant about the fact that Prince is way out of the others league and therefore think it's not even a debate...but Sky hit it big in that post.

Bottom line though, i dislike degrading someone's fave artist at the comparison of my own...because it's all preference. However, if something crazy is said like, MJ is a better musician than Prince, you just have to say something...for me, usually a laugh.

That's because you have your faves and no one is going to tell you otherwise, which is why I think these posts are so stupid and reek of immature teenagers. These debates just become "my opinion >>> your opinions." There's no objective way to measure this shit. At all. It's just opinions and will remain that way. Always.

This is to everybody:

ANYWAY...

Getting back to who this thread is about. I like his pic of Mike

Timmy84 said:

This is to everybody:

MyLuv229 said:

ANYWAY...

Getting back to who this thread is about. I like his pic of Mike

In the 1987 recording sessions of the Bad album as he records his heartbeat for the intro for 'Smooth Criminal'

Wow! Cool.