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Hackers Hit Timberlake And Others

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December 3, 2010

Two young German computer hackers allegedly stole pop songs from Lady Gaga, Justin Timberlake, Ke$ha and Kelly Clarkson, selling them online and forcing the advanced release of several singles, officials said Friday.

A 17-year-old high school student from Duisburg, and his alleged accomplice, a 23-year-old unemployed man from Wesel, are under investigation for using a Trojan Horse to hack into the artists' computers for about 12 months before being discovered, Duisburg chief prosecutor Rolf Haferkamp told The Associated Press.

During that time, they earned more than euro10,000 ($13,240) in illegal sales of tracks acquired from the stars' computers. Haferkamp would not comment on specific songs that were stolen.

Both of the alleged hackers live with their parents in the western German cities, which are about 20 miles (30 kilometers) apart.

According to local media reports, which identified the two as Deniz A. — an amateur disc jockey known as "DJ Stolen" — and Christian M., the two had attached the Trojan to an MP3 file that was then sent to the official addresses of the stars, their managers and their record companies.

Deniz A. also allegedly downloaded a sexually compromising photo of one artist and used it to blackmail her. Haferkamp would not comment on which artist it was.

Bild quoted Deniz A. as saying he didn't mean to do any harm.

"I'm a fan and I just wanted to have cool music," he was quoted by the newspaper as saying. "I'm no blackmailer."

Haferkamp said the police were informed of the hacking after a fan of Kelly Clarkson alerted her management that unreleased songs of the singer were being sold online.

A Duisburg police spokesman, speaking on departmental condition of anonymity, said that the two had been under investigation for "several months" and that authorities had a 1,000-page file on them.

Haferkamp said the investigation should be concluded by January and can lead to criminal charges. If convicted, they could be sentenced to up to five years in prison or face stiff fines for damages.

Spokesmen for the artists were not immediately available for comment.

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Reply #1 posted 12/03/10 4:13pm

lastdecember

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Identity said:

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December 3, 2010

Two young German computer hackers allegedly stole pop songs from Lady Gaga, Justin Timberlake, Ke$ha and Kelly Clarkson, selling them online and forcing the advanced release of several singles, officials said Friday.

A 17-year-old high school student from Duisburg, and his alleged accomplice, a 23-year-old unemployed man from Wesel, are under investigation for using a Trojan Horse to hack into the artists' computers for about 12 months before being discovered, Duisburg chief prosecutor Rolf Haferkamp told The Associated Press.

During that time, they earned more than euro10,000 ($13,240) in illegal sales of tracks acquired from the stars' computers. Haferkamp would not comment on specific songs that were stolen.

Both of the alleged hackers live with their parents in the western German cities, which are about 20 miles (30 kilometers) apart.

According to local media reports, which identified the two as Deniz A. — an amateur disc jockey known as "DJ Stolen" — and Christian M., the two had attached the Trojan to an MP3 file that was then sent to the official addresses of the stars, their managers and their record companies.

Deniz A. also allegedly downloaded a sexually compromising photo of one artist and used it to blackmail her. Haferkamp would not comment on which artist it was.

Bild quoted Deniz A. as saying he didn't mean to do any harm.

"I'm a fan and I just wanted to have cool music," he was quoted by the newspaper as saying. "I'm no blackmailer."

Haferkamp said the police were informed of the hacking after a fan of Kelly Clarkson alerted her management that unreleased songs of the singer were being sold online.

A Duisburg police spokesman, speaking on departmental condition of anonymity, said that the two had been under investigation for "several months" and that authorities had a 1,000-page file on them.

Haferkamp said the investigation should be concluded by January and can lead to criminal charges. If convicted, they could be sentenced to up to five years in prison or face stiff fines for damages.

Spokesmen for the artists were not immediately available for comment.

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honestly im just so tired of the excuse......"i just wanted cool music" and "theres so much shit out there why should i have to pay", its this simple, you stole someones fucking work, plain and simple, if you get something for nothing you stole it, fess up already, i think when people just realize this and stop the lame excuses we can move on. The internet may be the pool of information but just because something is posted doesnt mean its free, now im not saying going after people who download, because that is just too widespread, but if you go after the torrent sites etc....because like it or not, they are making a shit load of money off the artists.


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Reply #2 posted 12/05/10 11:23am

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Tak....is that you?

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Reply #3 posted 12/05/10 11:24am

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Wait....DJ Stolen from Slave To The Rhythm? The new MJ song? eek

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Reply #4 posted 12/05/10 4:32pm

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lastdecember said:

Identity said:

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December 3, 2010

Two young German computer hackers allegedly stole pop songs from Lady Gaga, Justin Timberlake, Ke$ha and Kelly Clarkson, selling them online and forcing the advanced release of several singles, officials said Friday.

A 17-year-old high school student from Duisburg, and his alleged accomplice, a 23-year-old unemployed man from Wesel, are under investigation for using a Trojan Horse to hack into the artists' computers for about 12 months before being discovered, Duisburg chief prosecutor Rolf Haferkamp told The Associated Press.

During that time, they earned more than euro10,000 ($13,240) in illegal sales of tracks acquired from the stars' computers. Haferkamp would not comment on specific songs that were stolen.

Both of the alleged hackers live with their parents in the western German cities, which are about 20 miles (30 kilometers) apart.

According to local media reports, which identified the two as Deniz A. — an amateur disc jockey known as "DJ Stolen" — and Christian M., the two had attached the Trojan to an MP3 file that was then sent to the official addresses of the stars, their managers and their record companies.

Deniz A. also allegedly downloaded a sexually compromising photo of one artist and used it to blackmail her. Haferkamp would not comment on which artist it was.

Bild quoted Deniz A. as saying he didn't mean to do any harm.

"I'm a fan and I just wanted to have cool music," he was quoted by the newspaper as saying. "I'm no blackmailer."

Haferkamp said the police were informed of the hacking after a fan of Kelly Clarkson alerted her management that unreleased songs of the singer were being sold online.

A Duisburg police spokesman, speaking on departmental condition of anonymity, said that the two had been under investigation for "several months" and that authorities had a 1,000-page file on them.

Haferkamp said the investigation should be concluded by January and can lead to criminal charges. If convicted, they could be sentenced to up to five years in prison or face stiff fines for damages.

Spokesmen for the artists were not immediately available for comment.

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honestly im just so tired of the excuse......"i just wanted cool music" and "theres so much shit out there why should i have to pay", its this simple, you stole someones fucking work, plain and simple, if you get something for nothing you stole it, fess up already, i think when people just realize this and stop the lame excuses we can move on. The internet may be the pool of information but just because something is posted doesnt mean its free, now im not saying going after people who download, because that is just too widespread, but if you go after the torrent sites etc....because like it or not, they are making a shit load of money off the artists.

The "just wanting cool music" thing I can understand. Anyone here who has ever bought a Prince bootleg can understand that.

However, the "why should I pay?" argument is just weak. That would be like your employer one day coming up to you and saying "Ya know, I really don't think I should pay you for your work anymore, so I won't. You'll still be expected to work like you did before tho. Have a nice day!"

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Reply #5 posted 12/05/10 4:49pm

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Nikademus said:

lastdecember said:

honestly im just so tired of the excuse......"i just wanted cool music" and "theres so much shit out there why should i have to pay", its this simple, you stole someones fucking work, plain and simple, if you get something for nothing you stole it, fess up already, i think when people just realize this and stop the lame excuses we can move on. The internet may be the pool of information but just because something is posted doesnt mean its free, now im not saying going after people who download, because that is just too widespread, but if you go after the torrent sites etc....because like it or not, they are making a shit load of money off the artists.

The "just wanting cool music" thing I can understand. Anyone here who has ever bought a Prince bootleg can understand that.

However, the "why should I pay?" argument is just weak. That would be like your employer one day coming up to you and saying "Ya know, I really don't think I should pay you for your work anymore, so I won't. You'll still be expected to work like you did before tho. Have a nice day!"

But thing is there are different forms of "bootleg" the Prince "bootlegs" were mainly all live recordings, studio shit he shelved, but he was behind most of its leaking, and that is a fact, just like other bands allow "taping" at live gigs, Prince and others have allowed these so called "bootleg" labels like Moonraker and Sabotage, get hold of their stuff.

Now another form of "bootleg" is Joe Schmo selling $5 cdr's with xerox copied artwork on the street corner, thats the dude, that everyone says "is supporting the neighborhood" but reall is just ripping off the artists.

And last but not least are the "bootlegs" that are the way of the world now, just float over to MaxAlbums.Com and cop the new R. kelly which has been out for 2 weeks already, or hit sites like Filestube and type in Ciara Basic Insctinct and get that new nightmare.

Now the wanting cool new music is great and we all want something to make our day, but call it what it is. If i go to a site and download the new Duran Duran from some 16 year old hacker im stealing and so is he, he may dig the artist and all, but he is stealing first and foremost, the argument just doesnt hold water anymore.


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Reply #6 posted 12/05/10 5:29pm

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lastdecember said:

they are making a shit load of money off the artists.

Well in most cases, the performer wasn't making any money from the record label anyway, even before the internet existed. It's the labels that are losing money, not the act. Nowadays, the labels are even taking the acts touring and merchandising income, which was how many of them made money, and even then a lot of acts were being ripped off by promoters, club owners, managers, etc.

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Reply #7 posted 12/05/10 5:37pm

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lastdecember said:

they are making a shit load of money off the artists.

Well in most cases, the performer wasn't making any money from the record label anyway, even before the internet existed. It's the labels that are losing money, not the act. Nowadays, the labels are even taking the acts touring and merchandising income, which was how many of them made money, and even then a lot of acts were being ripped off by promoters, club owners, managers, etc.

not really true though, because a label like anything else is "needed" check the Mario thread thats posted here. And labels are getting paid still and will always find a way, the argument that artists are screwed either way, is true, but now there are so many hands in their pockets taking money, the whole internet and now iTunes is just another hand in the pocket of the artist who was already getting a small portion. But like it was said, artists now, will have to learn to market themselves and deal with not being the "toast of the town" deal with selling 10,000 records if they are lucky, because that is what its coming too, people better be able to accept it.


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Reply #8 posted 12/05/10 5:45pm

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This person is the reason that songs for the new Michael Jackson project leaked out these past 2 weeks

Another Day

Much Too Soon

All I Need

Blue Gangster

Do You Know Where Your Children Are

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