But today i was listening 8701 today by Usher.. i think it's a good album!

Grant it everything past confessions is garbage and i don't take him seriously at all as an artist anymore. But i think that this is a good album, and showcases the boy can sing or could.

Another artist i know a lot on the org hate is R.Kelly. But i recently spun his self titled & R which i think are both great albums!

Honestly these guys do deserve some of the backlash they get, they are talented artist's who wasted it for the most part. Eventually making club song's, one discovering Justin Bieber & another getting in trouble for peeing on girls. It's just a shame to me, i do like these albums and these guys could have gone on to make great stuff!

Seal came out around the same time, another talented guy. And i feel he has been way better on making good albums but he doesn't have the hits constantly racking up like Usher

I liked Usher in the 90's and early 00's, and only in moderation ever since. Same with R. Kelly, so I agree with you.

alphastreet said:

I liked Usher in the 90's and early 00's, and only in moderation ever since. Same with R. Kelly, so I agree with you.

I just can't decide which one went down faster..

I would say R.Kelly... i mean you remind me of my jeep, Feelin on your booty, sex in the kitchen, trapped in the closet lol ow man...

Are we comparing Usher to R. Kelly?

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midiscover said:

Are we comparing Usher to R. Kelly?

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Yes, in the sense that i was listening to there albums. And both guys where kind of around the same time, there both talented but both burned fast. I mean there still making hit singles but nothing very good

But artistically R.Kelly's first few albums probably Trump Ushers catalogue.

Gunsnhalen said:

midiscover said:

Are we comparing Usher to R. Kelly?

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Yes, in the sense that i was listening to there albums. And both guys where kind of around the same time, there both talented but both burned fast. I mean there still making hit singles but nothing very good

But artistically R.Kelly's first few albums probably Trump Ushers catalogue.

Oh ok. Imo, R. Kelly's whole catalogue trumps Usher's. Plus he wrote and produced everything and he's a better singer. Usher sold-out to Pop and commercial R&B, lol. But I like that song "You don't have to call".

midiscover said:

Gunsnhalen said:

Yes, in the sense that i was listening to there albums. And both guys where kind of around the same time, there both talented but both burned fast. I mean there still making hit singles but nothing very good

But artistically R.Kelly's first few albums probably Trump Ushers catalogue.

Oh ok. Imo, R. Kelly's whole catalogue trumps Usher's. Plus he wrote and produced everything and he's a better singer. Usher sold-out to Pop and commercial R&B, lol. But I like that song "You don't have to call".

I Do agree, where Usher for me only had 2 good albums

R.Kelly had 3 Great albums!, but once he started doing that you remind me of my jeep, feeling on your booty stuff i lost interest...lol

His work before 'Here I Stand' really is something when compared to his music of today. Usher has honestly gone down the drain with his recent work/last few releases

myalouise said:

His work before 'Here I Stand' really is something when compared to his music of today. Usher has honestly gone down the drain with his recent work/last few releases

Yeah... Love In This Club & Dj's Got Us falling In Love & OMG are terrible... like GOD AWFUL.

I can't believe that's the same guy that did u don't have to call, Burn, U Got it Bad & Confessions

I Just remembered.... I kind of like the Same Girl duet they did

To me everything before confessions are great. "Yeah" really killed him for me.

Gunsnhalen said:

myalouise said:

His work before 'Here I Stand' really is something when compared to his music of today. Usher has honestly gone down the drain with his recent work/last few releases

Yeah... Love In This Club & Dj's Got Us falling In Love & OMG are terrible... like GOD AWFUL.

I can't believe that's the same guy that did u don't have to call, Burn, U Got it Bad & Confessions

His new releases are the reason why I'm not going to his concert when he comes over here with 'Trey Songz' who really makes it ten times worse, I'm just not interested in his shit anymore

i always thought of 8701 to be his OFF THE WALL.

this was the only album that ever came close to giving me the same excitement/buzz that a MJ album could have

PoppyBros said:

To me everything before confessions are great. "Yeah" really killed him for me.

Well i pretend Yeah is not on the album lol. Honestly delete Yeah & it's a fin R&B Album

myalouise said:

Gunsnhalen said:

Yeah... Love In This Club & Dj's Got Us falling In Love & OMG are terrible... like GOD AWFUL.

I can't believe that's the same guy that did u don't have to call, Burn, U Got it Bad & Confessions

His new releases are the reason why I'm not going to his concert when he comes over here with 'Trey Songz' who really makes it ten times worse, I'm just not interested in his shit anymore

Lol, same... but i am interested in his old stuff again. I forgot how good he once was. Trey...... yeah just not happening for me

Nvncible1 said:

i always thought of 8701 to be his OFF THE WALL.

this was the only album that ever came close to giving me the same excitement/buzz that a MJ album could have

HEY! That is very true! & i guess confessions was his thriller.. i mean it was the best selling album of the last decade. And is highly remembered. It's not as good of course but in the same vein for last decade.

But ow gosh does that make Here I Stand.. his bad? ;p' lol

Gunsnhalen said:

Nvncible1 said:

i always thought of 8701 to be his OFF THE WALL.

this was the only album that ever came close to giving me the same excitement/buzz that a MJ album could have

HEY! That is very true! & i guess confessions was his thriller.. i mean it was the best selling album of the last decade. And is highly remembered. It's not as good of course but in the same vein for last decade.

But ow gosh does that make Here I Stand.. his bad? ;p' lol

Nooooooo cos BAD was GOOD.

Here I stand was just BAD....

Id say his new one is BAD.

alot of hits. more poppish songs.

HERE I STAND just DOESN'T exist.

He has a great deal of talent (I Believe I Can Fly), but at the end of the day R. Kelly just seems like an insincere hack getting over, waitin' for some prey - IMO.